Ukrainian Wheeled Mount for Mk19 Automatic Grenade Launcher
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- čas přidán 11. 11. 2023
- A Ukrainian engineer has constructed a wheeled mount for the Mk19 automatic grenade launcher.
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That’s the angriest wheelbarrow I’ve ever seen.
lol best comment !!!
Danger barrow
The potential stability issues look too me like nothing a couple of sandbags up front where the mount's "handle" is can't fix, and what is most interesting to me is that they are halfway to something that can turn a mk19 into a platform that could be dropped off by small teams and then remotely operated.
Or get some guy to hold it
Feels like we've come full circle with light artillery/anti-tank guns.
Im surprised we havent seen more anit tank rifles from early ww2/ later ww1. they would certainly do a number on some of the lighter armored vehicles.
@@mtnbound2764 The US Army has started mounting 105mm howitzers on hmmwvs.
@@mtnbound2764 They already have modern 14.5×114mm anti-tank rifles and machine guns. The criticism I've heard of them is that they're already so heavy, that they become crew served weapons requiring more or less a squad to carry, operate, and protect them at the front. Therefore, you might as well just bring an ATGM system instead of the AT rifles. Even though they can penetrate lightly armoured vehicles, I would imagine shot placement becomes pretty important with a so relatively small bullet. Therefore I think explosive weapons are better suited to taking out armoured cars etc.
The "long threaded bar" is known as a "worm pinion".
I knew there would be a name for it!! Thank you.
@@TheArmourersBench -- You're most welcome, friend.
We always called them worm screws 🤠
"jack screw" in American
The stability issues could be easily and cheaply resolved. Either with sandbags or mounting spades onto the "trails" of the mount.
Great idea though. So much easier to manhandle into new positions by it's crew...but even more mobile if you attach a pintle and tow it by ATV or your local Toyota pickup truck....heck, tow it behind a Rokon and you're set!
Given its often used role as in-direct fire support, I wonder if the stability issues are a concern for them? As it's being used to hit a general area rather than precise targets.
War brings out the creativity of people.
War finds a way.
they seem to be using these as automatic light-mortars, very neat.
It's a bloody heavy weapon so a mount like this should be appreciated by troops
Good idea, it is important to keep moving and be able to keep moving on the frontline to be a harder target for artillery.
Integrating the ammunition box and some kind of direct and indirect fire aiming device would be nice, I guess, but i'm not familiar enough with the Mk19 to be able to say how this could be done effectively.
I mean, makes sense. This thing has to be a bit closer to the action compared to other supporting fire weapons, so more mobility is important. I am sure the mount will have some additional changes before it is fully ready though. Looks like, lets say, a prototype phase.
No ammo box mount seems a bit of a dilemma. While the MK 19 is often used that way, an ammo box still has to be carried with it. Pulling the launcher and carrying ammo requires more people. It would still be desirable to have a holder to place a box for transport, even if it's not mounted for firing. A box mounted to feed would likely unbalance the contraption.
Still very useful in a war that demands rapid displacement. Just needs a few tweaks.
I think they wanna shoot more than one box anyway...
Very interesting setup. Say what you will of Ukrainians, but it feels like every craftsman is doing what they can to help, and I find that commendable. And the improvised or craft weaponry and accessories are always interesting. Anyways, I've a request of sorts. After a conversation with some friends, topic came up - use of shotguns in Ukraine war. Originally we were talking about the Saiga 12, which I had very little luck searching for, FPS Russia videos popping up rather than useful stuff. A full video on shotgun use would be very interesting!
A surprising amount of crafted weapons that AREN'T janky/sketchy too, some impressive stuff coming from Ukraine! This wheeled mount isn't far from being a production piece, maybe some subtle design changes to reduce the amount of material used or reduce the amount of welding required or what have you, but that's a pretty nice, pretty well thought out looking piece.
That high elevation makes this seem like a poor mans high-capacity Vasilek
It basically turns the mk19 into a light mortar on steroids.
@@robertsmith4681 Equal AGS 400mm
The two changes I can see to make to the mount would be to mount a couple of U-bolts or looks just aft of the movement handles so that you can shove a 1.5" piece of pipe through them to provide a better perch for moving the mount over longer distances. Put a man on each side to grab the bar and move away.
Also an loop at the "front' would be useful for towing it with the hitch of an ATV
Maybe a little rattle in the mount would be good to expand the beaten zone?
I don't expect the lack of an ammunition mount to be problematic. They're firing a lot more than a box at a time and someone's gotta be carrying all that anyway.
True, it was more of an observation than a criticism. Thanks for watching!
An ammo can (aka box) mount is only really needed on a vehicle mounting system. When using the American ground mounting system, the 40mm ammo can is just resting on the ground.
First impression is that the line of thrust of the recoil lines up behind the tires, which will make the mount buck If the gun were mounted so that its centerline lined up inside the footprint of the mount, the mount would tend to dig in instead of rotating upward with each shot. The trail needs to be longer or the gun could be mounted at an upward angle to the frame. A wider trail would make it more stable, too. Maybe as simple as making the two sides fork out wider and putting the wheels inside them.
This looks like a good basic mechanism, but it will definitely need refinement. I'd put a single round in it with a string to pull the trigger, and see what happens.
Ukrainians are so innovative. Shows how much they have eager to defend their country when they take everything they can and upgrade it. They really wanna help themself to win the war as they should, and for that I must salute them.
im sure this is one of many prototypes, fantastic idea though.
Always informative and entertaining! I really appreciate your posts!!
Thank you!!
So we’re seeing the evolution of the modern mortar here
This mount system is bloody brilliant.
The MK19 is a big girl, this is a great idea especially with how the Ukes seem to enjoy deploying thir guns. I don't think the narrow footprint will be an issue with a couple sand bags, what I do see as an issue especially for it being used for indirect fires is the lack of any provision to level the mount.
Throwback to the Maxim machine gun. The Ukrainians are consistently inventive when it comes to modifying their weapon systems. Do you know of any data regarding the relative Ukrainian use of AK derived assault rifles/carbines in 7.62 or 5.45 vs NATO derived weapons. I’d also be interested in the percentage of Ukrainian fighters with night vision capabilities and/or optical sighting systems. Enjoy your channel.
Thank you! I wish I had data like that. The vast majority are using 5.45 platforms when it comes to AKs. Fairly rare you see 7.62×39 in front line use. 5.56 platforms are proliferating at a rapid rate with some brigades seemingly equipping full companies or battalions with them. As for night vision it seems they can't get enough of it as you'd expect but not sure on figures.
@@TheArmourersBench Thank you for your impressions. I watch a fair bit a footage but I’m certain it’s much less than what your research requires. My impression was that the frequency of western weapons was increasing and over the last 3-4 months I’ve been seeing more optics on them. I’m still a bit surprised at how many iron sighted AK’s with wooden furniture I see from both sides in the videos. Thanks again for providing such high quality data driven research.
It would be better to have the wheel to transport the Mk 19 to wherever you need but also carry the tripod for after you quick detach the wheel mount and put it on the tripod cuz I don't think that it's sturdy enough for sustained fire and it looks like it would have to be reamed cuz it's not on a wide sturdy base to keep it leveled during fire so I would just use it as a transport means and carried a tripod with unless you're using it as a shooting scoot method
Use a quadcopter drone as a spotter and you have pocket artillery
They do! The clip of the MK19 is them doing exactly that.
sweet
Cool!
This reminds me the wwii Raketenwerfer 43 or puphen
Our Mark 19s were not designed to fire like that that is that is impressive ❤❤❤❤
Could this have been made due to Ukrainian familiarity with Vasilek gun mortars which also have wheeled mounts?
Wake up babe, new home defense weapon just dropped.
It reminds me of vesilek, also can you do a video on it, and how effective has been so far in the war and why doesn’t US army have a equivalent.
Its like the maxuim mount the russians used in ww2 and
ww1 maybe dont know about that one for me
We have AGS VOG17 launcher at home
An automatic mortar system, nice.
They just want it to be an AGS-30 so badly
I can see it being handy, assuming the stability issue is resolved (As per other commentators)
As others have stated that can be fixed with a couple of sand bags holding it down.
Well that should work. Fuck carrying those things!
Vickers gun tactics.
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I know that actually means something in Ukrainian, but I can’t help but think of the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. faction (Known in English as “Freedom”) upon hearing it. Is there any indication of a Ukranian unit calling itself “dolg” (Duty)?
Svoboda does mean Freedom as in liberty in slav languages, yes, though in Stalker it is "Volja", freedom as well, but sort of like freedom of movement or to be free as a bird. As for Doody, not sure of that specifically, but there has been a number of units taking Stalker and Metro faction and group names. I recall my mate who visited Ukraine in the summer telling me about how he saw freedom patches on some soldiers he saw, and another one told me about a foreign volunteer group of Clear Sky, but do not quote me on that, it is just what I heard as an anecdote.
From what I can see looks like the ukrainians made a modernized World War II era Taubin AGL which itself was mounted on a wheel like a M1910 Maxim. Why can't the NATO militaries adopt this to their own use which would mean it can be moved easily in the battlefield one place to another. The larger version of is a 2B9 Mortar on a Humvee M998 Scorpion
Because NATO forces generally mount these on vehicles.
@huntersmith761 thank you for telling me about that I wonder why they would do this method like a 1940s Taubin AGL despite making it faster to deploy with an infantry unit
if you always use yor gmg as an indirect fire weapon, sure. that's not what they're supposed to do, though, and not what they're actually good at.
No but they are useful in that role.
How much do you think firing it like that shaves off the mark19 life expectancy in battle
It must put a lot of strain on its barrel and other components you would think they would want to take the best care of the stock pile they have those things cost a pretty penny
They don't have a nickel invested in them.
Makes up for it by being more mobile, making it less likely to be taken out by enemy drones or artillery.
Welcome to war dude. Things get work out or destroyed. It’s not a flat range.
@@AnthonyTRiggioI swear you people regularly post some of the dumbest comments I have ever read in my life.
Hate to say it, but weapon longevity is as much an issue of "your opponent has a vote" also.
Even mobile, you're still going to draw mortars, artillery, or beaten zone mg.
@@JD-tn5lz yah you are, but mobility gives you that much more chance of survival over being an emplaced positron.
Comrade why is it raining grenades
Same as maxim machine guns
I am genuinely afraid of this weapon, anywhere, any time, you could be bombarded by a hail of 40mm, and be none the wiser where it came from
This proves the difference between Ukraine and Middle Eastern and African countries:
Ukraine is an industrialized country in Europe with many engineers and skilled workers.
B A S E D
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These are from the first world war
Ah, good old Ukraine. Otherwise known as America's go-to outsourced labor force for testing new and improved ways of implementing the unhealthcare system 😂
while we certainly get alot of data from this war, thats an interesting way to describe military support. i mean they did ask for the aid, its not like we just forced it upon them. it seems like russia is the real driver for accelerating new developments in unhealtcare, though to be factual, they just find new reasons to re-use old methods.
Bye morman
This has nothing to do with the video. The Mk. 19 was already well tested and the US has fuck all interest in expedient mounts for it.
The MIC is not the reason that the US does not have universal healthcare. Switching to a universal single payer system would actually SAVE America money.
3 minutes chat about some handtruck wheels mounted to a 'nade launcher.
Why did not the factory come up with .. 2 wheels?
Yet you bothered to type this drivel.
Russia invaded because of the rapid influx of US weapons brought in from Poland and rise in civilization casualties in the bonbas regions. Russia invaded to provent a mass genocide of the Ukrainian people with historically Russian roots. Russia lost many young soldiers and equipment in the beginning of of the conflict as a sacrifice to peace when Kiev was in circled Ukrainians we're pleading for a deal ,in good fate of a deal being brokered Russia pulled out the troops , But instead of making the deal for peace US propagated the war promising to support Ukraine. Because of this more than 100,000 people are dead. Thanks to US support, it's obvious US does not care about Ukraine or its people , US only cares to destroy his competition , And I don't mean only Russia I mean the whole of EU I'm sure this is the reason why England left the EU just in the nick of time to they the knew the US plans. For war against Russia using Ukraine people, they knew that media would be necessary to control the Ukrainian people that's why they hired zelenski an actor and his entourage to create a great media campaign that wouldn't influence the Ukrainian people into total submission so they become so weak and poor they could not resist when US appointed government will sell off the Ukrainian resources for pennies on the dollar to the US corporation an investors who instigated this war in the first place.
Well if anyone wants to read the Russian point of view, here it is.
I don't think Russia is quite as blameless as you seem to think... but I'm not here to debate that with you.
Oh my.
You were almost just misguided until you introduced Brexit in your discourse.
After that, well it became apparent that free pharmaceuticals should be your next hot topic.
Good to see that not all you trolls are idle. Was missing your little bit of lunacy.
@@TheArmourersBench First I'm Ukrainian from Kiev I have an apartment in Dnipro and my family Summer house is Orlovka near Avdiivka and Donetsk I have family members both in Ukrainians army and Russian Navy,,,.. The wording about US providing weapons because Russia was playing an invasion just flipped the switch, the fact is if US wouldn't try to impose it's influence on Russias original capital city and provocate Russia . None of this would happen...
@@samsungtvmailthe Kievan Rus were not and are not the same as Muscovy Rus.
You've bit very hard into some old Soviet propaganda. The dangers of orthodoxy; no one questions or digs into what is taught because well, that is what was taught for so long.
It would be similar to claiming that Hastings is the actual capital of the UK, or that London is the capital of the USA.
@@JD-tn5lz I moved from Kiev 12 years ego . I'm not sure what history books you are reading , likely those provided to you by USaid by George Soros foundation. Kiev will always be the first grand capital of Ruriks Rus. . Because Russia continued developing after 1610 the end of Rurik family line it doesn't change anything The fact that Ruriks dynasty established several capital cities both in the southern , central and northern territories of Rus. And Ruriks dynasty for the ones who were responsible for expanding the territory of Rus , Infact most people who were sent on conquest over Ural mountains by the last influential member of Rurik dynasty were from Donbas Crimea and southern Volga regions. (This is likely why Catherine 2 had to repopulate those regions by providing incentives to all especially to Orthodox Greeks so that they can establish a cultural centers and she surely intended for Odessa to become a hub between Rus and Grease, Rome and Europe in general. One people one Rus working as one under one banner. Building Several capitals in several regions of a large empire doesn't change the facts that Kiev is one of them. Even if you look at references history and geography from Poland perspective your assessment of Rus somehow being different from Kiev Rus innovative and best but closer to dimwitted as for your assessment and comparison of London being the capital of US , maybe Jamestown can be considered The first capital of the US but surely London was be the capital of the american colonies but not the United States see the difference there? There is no mutual governance or achievements of conquest unlike Rus was one entity and even during the sweet union the people shared mutual accomplishments and social development and building infrastructure as one people.
if you have actual insight Why Hastings could have been the capital of England please enlighten me I do not know enough about England to impose opinion, if you have interesting insight about Hastings I would like to hear it.
Tiktok army 🪖😂
You mean Chechnya
@@jaxonl7810 if you call Ukraine Chechnya then yes
Like so many of the ad-hoc mounts made in Ukraine, it's not stable enough for actual combat use. 🤠
Three or two 70lb sandbags and it's plenty stable enough. There's a reason why they say "close enough for grenades and government work."
Plus, old school. Firing at higher elevation can "set the trails" in certain conditions.