Yes - the numerals were written like a European not an American. Kind of bad script writing IMO, as a trained infiltrator would likely not make such an obvious mistake.
@@brianfergus839That is the point of making many odd questions, to stress you out. Note that even a trained infiltrator still most likely have just theoretical knowledge, and have never actually been in a real situation. The date writing is also a good test because if you do it on instinct, you can't salvage the situation, as the day is a number that goes first.
I read that the Resistance would tell downed airmen that they believe that this amount of American planes where also shot down and this was because they where looking for genuine sadness in the faces of the Airman' because of them knowing that many of their friends have possibly been killed
You see them get back the base a few episodes later, but yea otherwise abandoned. The show is more interesting in showing what happened to people more than following characters entire lives
The date and singing the national anthem was the mistakes spies can make. Only europeans would write the day before the month, and just because we're American, doesn't mean we know the national anthem word for word. The baseball question I felt was a bit too easy. If a belgian guy knew that Babe ruth didn't play for the dodgers, than a German would also know that. Babe Ruth was one of the most successful baseball players at the time. His name would definitely reach Europe if a name like Vera Lynn could reach the US.
After the scene the guys said interrogation was worse than when they joined the military so they must’ve asked 100’s of questions. probably asked “What’s the rules of baseball?
@@yinsoenits trick questions not IQ questions, most Americans would fail but that will only prove they are American Idiots LOL but the one who, solved The Questions correctly with Professionalism seem too competent & intelligent for any standard American who got drafted. its not a “How Smart Are You” Quiz but Are You “Emerican” Spelt with E not A, Emerica Quiz. The German Failed Because He seems to intelligent , too well mannered, too well behaved, too organised etc… & Look how upright he walked theres no a slouching, no depression, no misery at all. He seems too eager.
I agree. The spy sang the anthem a little too robust. The actual Americans kinda half sang it and didn’t really know all the words where the spy sang it loudest and with the most “oomf” so to speak. It’s not just answers, it’s also attitude and body language.
it'd help you actually, I've seen in other comment sections it's pretty common for American's to not to be 100% familiar with the words, whereas a German infiltrator would've assumed being absolutely perfect would be a benefit. He also writes the date in the European way, instead of the American (D/M/Y instead of M/D/Y)
Actually, it was his close-to-perfect rendition that was suspicious. It shows he memorized the anthem, whereas most Americans only know bits and pieces from the song. Notice how the true Americans aren’t singing it proudly, since they aren’t certain of the words.
Yea. That was a clever scece too. I'd have failed the Bath Ruth one, on who before the Yankees. It DID seem incorrect when he said Dodgers, but I just thought he flubbed the team names. They don't make a big enough feal of the date writing, should have had better camera angle. I dated a girl, she was American American but went to "American Schools" internationally ghrowing up. Mexico, Venuzula, etc. She wrote 21 July 1961 every durn time. They'd have shot her for sure, she HATED baseball.
The writers succeeded in this scene in their script. I think that the editing could've been cleaned up- still fine, but nonetheless a great inflection on the episode.
There was like a 30 second clip in episode 7/8 maybe where it shows them arriving back at the airbase and saying how they managed to escape and get back to England they can be sent home incase they get shot again and get presumed to be spies and executed by Belgians.
What gets me is that the US military has now adopted the day month year format on all official documents like in this movie. For as long as I was in the service. Maybe we’ve been secretly taken over by the British?
Note: I also wondered how they knew he was a spy until I dug deeper & realised that the date he made & his perfect US anthem was a dead giveaway First, an airman would be traumatised by what happened & will not think straight Second, the Americans wrote their date differently with M/D/Y Last, the German made a nazi salute
Actually kind of interesting to actually see something like this put to the screen. Not many people knew the reality of how it was for just normal citizens around germany. They did their best to get everyone protection under Geneva but there were many civilans who killed downed pilots in retribution as well as many who were taken to non PoW camps and tortured. (Especially British troops who indiscriminately bombed civilian centers during the night. If they British didn't do this. They might have avoided the bombing of London since the bombing was largely in retribution.) Which is why these networks were set up to get people to PoW camps. Germany surprisingly honored the Geneva Convention when they were directly confronted but largely didn't when no one was looking. There is actually a more famous officer who saw how many captured pilots were treated and worked to send them to PoW camps. Since he knew if he didn't. There would be retribution for breaking the convention. Especially when the Geneva convention was very much honored in every territory except the Soviet Union. Also because it was towards the end of the war and it was obvious Germany was finally losing due to over encroachment and a new unified front. Everyone makes a big deal out of captured Japanese in America after WW2 but there was no indiscriminate killing going on. In the Soviet Union. America very much owned the mistake of how the Japanese were treated and then formed a very powerful connection with Japan in the aftermath. There would not be such strong ties between America and Japan if America treated the Japanese the same way the Soviet Union treated Germans. Basically everyone was treated worse than the Jews in the Soviet Union. I've always wondered if there will ever be any retribution for that. The Soviet Union killed nearly as many people in Labor Camps as the Germans if not more since they were around significantly longer than the camps in germany. (The obvious difference being that the Soviets actually wanted them for Labor and the Germans just killed people for who they were) The absolute gaul that the Soviet Union had during the Nuremberg Trials to judge Germany while literally doing the same thing as them is something else. I remember seeing how the Nuremberg Trials nearly lost all credibility due to the Soviet Unions participation. Obvious in retrospect. The Nuremberg Trials were a good thing cause they acted as a second Geneva Convention on top of the already forming idea of mutually assured destruction
yes, cause americans wouldve written january 12th, and would screw up the anthem and other simple questions like whats the statue. an infiltrator wouldve prepared himself for such an event, and would have all the answers, not miss a beat in the anthem. but when asked to right the date, he writes it 12 january. all his prepairing for the hard parts, didnt ready him for the non chalant part. its a language thing, saying we are january 12th, or its the 12th of january.
@@trixmtll1393I am an American myself but I don’t know the lyrics to the anthem word for word. Assuming you are American how often do you sing the national anthem? And with the date, there could be an explanation what if he wrote like that because he was from somewhere in Europe? Doesn’t mean he was German or a spy. The problem with this show and I am not saying it’s bad is that there was too many thing happening at once. In the case of this scene we are never given any closure that this guy was a spy or a soldier from one of the axis’s nations, we have no idea who he is. We are just led to assume he was a German? Even though he had no accent. I was not convinced
@@andresramirez4469 whelp, the cruel reality is, whether he was or not, those holding the gun thought he was. and we can assume those were the tells they used. there were other signs, such as he wasnt injured like the rest, from a plane crash, the others didnt know him, he couldve infiltrated the group after the crash in the confusion etc. alot of everything around him was suspicious and in times of war, they made the decision. there were too many things weighing against him, and with lives on the line and no trials nearby. that was that the soldier shouldve addressed it rather than just play along and try to pass. the others all had this look of confusion about them, he had an air of confidence, but not the right type of confidence, as if he aced the test. the others are like wtf why are we being tested his mental game was on point to navigate charisma, rather than be frontline shocked
The date writing gave it away
The fact he belted out the national anthem too, seemed a bit rehearsed.
Yes - the numerals were written like a European not an American. Kind of bad script writing IMO, as a trained infiltrator would likely not make such an obvious mistake.
@@brianfergus839That is the point of making many odd questions, to stress you out. Note that even a trained infiltrator still most likely have just theoretical knowledge, and have never actually been in a real situation.
The date writing is also a good test because if you do it on instinct, you can't salvage the situation, as the day is a number that goes first.
Habitats
That’s why 20 questions
It's very similar to Inglorious Bastards with the finger counting.
Plot twist. The guy had been stationed so long in Europe he adopted the date format.
Unlikely to happen most soldiers wasn’t allowed to write date in diaries there’s a difference in understanding European format vs writing it regulary
"Star shpangled banner"
That's a bingo!
I read that the Resistance would tell downed airmen that they believe that this amount of American planes where also shot down and this was because they where looking for genuine sadness in the faces of the Airman' because of them knowing that many of their friends have possibly been killed
I love how they just totally abandoned this whole storyline. As soon as they get on the train in Paris we never see these characters again
You see them get back the base a few episodes later, but yea otherwise abandoned. The show is more interesting in showing what happened to people more than following characters entire lives
The date and singing the national anthem was the mistakes spies can make. Only europeans would write the day before the month, and just because we're American, doesn't mean we know the national anthem word for word. The baseball question I felt was a bit too easy. If a belgian guy knew that Babe ruth didn't play for the dodgers, than a German would also know that. Babe Ruth was one of the most successful baseball players at the time. His name would definitely reach Europe if a name like Vera Lynn could reach the US.
After the scene the guys said interrogation was worse than when they joined the military so they must’ve asked 100’s of questions. probably asked “What’s the rules of baseball?
@@yinsoen Yeah, I mean most of these guys were fresh out of high school so I can imagine it was like taking a quiz you didn't study for.
@@yinsoenits trick questions not IQ questions, most Americans would fail but that will only prove they are American Idiots LOL but the one who, solved The Questions correctly with Professionalism seem too competent & intelligent for any standard American who got drafted.
its not a “How Smart Are You” Quiz but Are You “Emerican” Spelt with E not A, Emerica Quiz.
The German Failed Because He seems to intelligent , too well mannered, too well behaved, too organised etc…
& Look how upright he walked theres no a slouching, no depression, no misery at all.
He seems too eager.
I agree. The spy sang the anthem a little too robust. The actual Americans kinda half sang it and didn’t really know all the words where the spy sang it loudest and with the most “oomf” so to speak. It’s not just answers, it’s also attitude and body language.
so much unintentional asmr potential here
The anthem of Bikini Bottom is literally the only anthem I know. How am I supposed to explain that?
To think I'd get shot in the head by an Ally because I screwed up some of the words to an Anthem I never sing and rarely hear.
Its a few other things that would damn you
Not at the time.
it'd help you actually, I've seen in other comment sections it's pretty common for American's to not to be 100% familiar with the words, whereas a German infiltrator would've assumed being absolutely perfect would be a benefit. He also writes the date in the European way, instead of the American (D/M/Y instead of M/D/Y)
Battle of the bulge shot guys if didn’t know baseball
@@tomhenry897 well during the 40s baseball was the most common sport in the US.. so maybe as an americsn you are assumed to know
No injuries, date and he messed up the anthem
And then confirmed by the Austrian model lighter that he carried following his execution.
@@RenerDeCastrohow did you know it’s Austrian lighter?
Better know your baseball
just so proudly/what so proudly
I'm guessing what so proudly is the correct version?
@@chase5860yes
Actually, it was his close-to-perfect rendition that was suspicious. It shows he memorized the anthem, whereas most Americans only know bits and pieces from the song. Notice how the true Americans aren’t singing it proudly, since they aren’t certain of the words.
@@lolllama1504that would make more sense. I was saying in another comment that myself don’t know it word for word
Reminds me of the Great Escape. When the German wishes MacDonald “good luck”
Yea. That was a clever scece too.
I'd have failed the Bath Ruth one, on who before the Yankees. It DID seem incorrect when he said Dodgers, but I just thought he flubbed the team names.
They don't make a big enough feal of the date writing, should have had better camera angle.
I dated a girl, she was American American but went to "American Schools" internationally ghrowing up. Mexico, Venuzula, etc. She wrote 21 July 1961 every durn time.
They'd have shot her for sure, she HATED baseball.
The writers succeeded in this scene in their script. I think that the editing could've been cleaned up- still fine, but nonetheless a great inflection on the episode.
Kind of annoyed the show just dropped this storyline. Did we ever find out what happened.
There was like a 30 second clip in episode 7/8 maybe where it shows them arriving back at the airbase and saying how they managed to escape and get back to England they can be sent home incase they get shot again and get presumed to be spies and executed by Belgians.
What gets me is that the US military has now adopted the day month year format on all official documents like in this movie. For as long as I was in the service. Maybe we’ve been secretly taken over by the British?
Note: I also wondered how they knew he was a spy until I dug deeper & realised that the date he made & his perfect US anthem was a dead giveaway
First, an airman would be traumatised by what happened & will not think straight
Second, the Americans wrote their date differently with M/D/Y
Last, the German made a nazi salute
Do Americans say the title of the national anthem as "Star Shpangled Banner"? Because I thought that too was a subtle giveaway.
Actually kind of interesting to actually see something like this put to the screen. Not many people knew the reality of how it was for just normal citizens around germany. They did their best to get everyone protection under Geneva but there were many civilans who killed downed pilots in retribution as well as many who were taken to non PoW camps and tortured. (Especially British troops who indiscriminately bombed civilian centers during the night. If they British didn't do this. They might have avoided the bombing of London since the bombing was largely in retribution.) Which is why these networks were set up to get people to PoW camps.
Germany surprisingly honored the Geneva Convention when they were directly confronted but largely didn't when no one was looking. There is actually a more famous officer who saw how many captured pilots were treated and worked to send them to PoW camps. Since he knew if he didn't. There would be retribution for breaking the convention. Especially when the Geneva convention was very much honored in every territory except the Soviet Union. Also because it was towards the end of the war and it was obvious Germany was finally losing due to over encroachment and a new unified front.
Everyone makes a big deal out of captured Japanese in America after WW2 but there was no indiscriminate killing going on. In the Soviet Union. America very much owned the mistake of how the Japanese were treated and then formed a very powerful connection with Japan in the aftermath. There would not be such strong ties between America and Japan if America treated the Japanese the same way the Soviet Union treated Germans. Basically everyone was treated worse than the Jews in the Soviet Union. I've always wondered if there will ever be any retribution for that. The Soviet Union killed nearly as many people in Labor Camps as the Germans if not more since they were around significantly longer than the camps in germany. (The obvious difference being that the Soviets actually wanted them for Labor and the Germans just killed people for who they were) The absolute gaul that the Soviet Union had during the Nuremberg Trials to judge Germany while literally doing the same thing as them is something else. I remember seeing how the Nuremberg Trials nearly lost all credibility due to the Soviet Unions participation. Obvious in retrospect. The Nuremberg Trials were a good thing cause they acted as a second Geneva Convention on top of the already forming idea of mutually assured destruction
Saying Stalin was worse than Hitler is a very unpopular and correct opinion.
Was he really an infiltrator?
yes, cause americans wouldve written january 12th, and would screw up the anthem and other simple questions like whats the statue.
an infiltrator wouldve prepared himself for such an event, and would have all the answers, not miss a beat in the anthem.
but when asked to right the date, he writes it 12 january. all his prepairing for the hard parts, didnt ready him for the non chalant part.
its a language thing, saying we are january 12th, or its the 12th of january.
He made the nazi salute did he not?
@@trixmtll1393I am an American myself but I don’t know the lyrics to the anthem word for word. Assuming you are American how often do you sing the national anthem? And with the date, there could be an explanation what if he wrote like that because he was from somewhere in Europe? Doesn’t mean he was German or a spy. The problem with this show and I am not saying it’s bad is that there was too many thing happening at once. In the case of this scene we are never given any closure that this guy was a spy or a soldier from one of the axis’s nations, we have no idea who he is. We are just led to assume he was a German? Even though he had no accent. I was not convinced
@@andresramirez4469 whelp, the cruel reality is, whether he was or not, those holding the gun thought he was.
and we can assume those were the tells they used. there were other signs, such as he wasnt injured like the rest, from a plane crash, the others didnt know him, he couldve infiltrated the group after the crash in the confusion etc.
alot of everything around him was suspicious and in times of war, they made the decision.
there were too many things weighing against him, and with lives on the line and no trials nearby. that was that
the soldier shouldve addressed it rather than just play along and try to pass. the others all had this look of confusion about them, he had an air of confidence, but not the right type of confidence, as if he aced the test. the others are like wtf why are we being tested
his mental game was on point to navigate charisma, rather than be frontline shocked