Why The Gifted Are So Angry
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2023
- Experiences with injustice can be difficult for the gifted, and while some feel ashamed for being gifted, others struggle with anger for being mistreated.
#gifted #giftedness #anger
You enter a forest. Who's forest? Why are you here? As you walk through the narrow paths and try not to stumble over the vines, you realize there's something eerily familiar about this place. You've been here before. Many times. And then it hits you. The realization. You're inside your own mindscape. This is how it looks inside your own head.
But you've never seen it like this before. Never been a simple wanderer passing through, trying to find the way. In the past, you were always the individual thoughts, the trees, always a different one, never more than a few at a time. You recognize many of these trees.
Some trees are your worries and concerns and fears. Some are frustrations and things that upset you. Some are shame, and regret. Things you wish had gone differently. Here's both the past and the future, at least, what you think could, or might happen. But looking at this forest, you are hit by a wave of perspective. You are all of these things, not any individual thought, but all thoughts, at the same time. You're both joys and sorrows, dreams and fears. All those inner conflicts were just you all along, thinking, with yourself.
My name is Erik Thor, and I'm a Jungian analyst specializing in personality psychology and positive psychology. I created this channel to do storytelling about personality psychology and personal growth.
Being in harmony with other people is not a problem, if you can find yours, but being in harmony with a sick society or those who are part of it is an existential dilemma.
The quote "I used to think the worst thing in life was to end up all alone. It’s not. The worst thing in life is ending up with people who make you feel all alone” originated with Robin Williams. "
143 and stupid people used to call me weird and stupid but I see patterns and make connections that others will never see.
For me it's like Quicksilver from The X-Men, there’s a comic when he’s talking to a therapist about that annoyance when you’re waiting at the atm behind a really slow person who can’t use the machine, and how that’s what life is like for him all the time. It's having to constantly explain things to people, repeat yourself, people not getting what you're trying to tell them or not trying to. It is frustrating and rage inducing.
The rejection of neurotipicals to different people is due to their nature of perceiving the different individual as a threat
My mind works way faster than the world. I have had to slow it down my whole life, in order not to get anxious.
They see how things are, and how things could be, if only everyone else could see.
Thank again for sharing, you live in my mind.
For me it's often frustration, and suffering sometimes, and also shame. Reconnect with ourselves and think to ourselves help a lot 💙
I feel great frustration with society because we are looked down upon a robots who are all supposed to live the same life. We are expected to act a certain way for everything and not question anything. When you do question something, they either
1. Give a dumb answer
2. Realize they haven't questioned it themselves
because there are no good arguments for a lot of societal expectations. I often find myself, like the video said, doing the exact opposite of EVERYTHING I am told not to do, just so that I avoid being normal and to "show them" I'm not a dumb as they are. I am 17 and I do not know what I will do with the rest of my life, but I know I do not want to be like everyone else: robots that can't think or question anything.
The world is going to shit in stupid, stupid ways and we can't do anything about it. We see it everywhere, and it outright spoils my day sometimes. Of course it's going to build up frustration.
I flowed into university due to an "extraordinary" artistic gift. I had no support from family or friends, but a couple of strangers predicted that i would enjoy peak mastery in my university experience.
It turned out the opposite and I had no foundation to deal with it: Those who entered the program quickly formed their majority clique and set up a Gaslight reality that essentially stated: "To be gifted means you're not intelligent", and proceeded to dominate the program with that self-comforting elitism.
That bullying and inverted reality caused consternation and suicidal depression for decades. So, yeah, the anger at being Lied to is definitely there.
Contiune doing this! It’s amazing and on point foot for though.
By Alfred Adler, we‘re a discouraged society, and I observe how some learn to take criticism and adapt, while other just can’t get other people’s expectations around their own perceptions of the world and life. But to belog, they try very hard, and compromise their gifts and, of course, still never get approval. You are so right.
Schools put children into competition against eachother and is a system of selection and discrimination. Very unhealthy for us humans! And it gets even harder when the family pushes the child into the box too.
I’m still healing from this, bit by bit, step by step and I noticed it’s a slow process because the confusion this caused in my head is huge.
Your words fully resonate.
If you are free you are not equal. If you are equal you are not free:
Burnt-out, definitely!
🎶 Resignation Superman 🎶
Well young man, you seem to be on a great path in your journey.
May it be a long and fruitful one.😁
Very insightful.
Thank you this has brought me clarity.
I appreciate the path you have chosen to follow. As a fellow traveler I have found so many little paths that I would of never know of if not for a simple compass. What ever I think that I know or think that I believe. I might be wrong. I Might Be Wrong. Four simple words. But a compass that will open the door into endless journeys of becoming open minded. But what do I really know??? I might be wrong.
My problem is people often think too much in black and white for the big things, but leave too much in the grey for the little things which stop us from progressing. I'm aware those could be subjective. But I'll leave the interpretation open as of now.
I have done testing and I score in superior range for some stuff but I also score in the extremely low In other places. I do fully believe everyone is capable at thriving at something. It's important to look inside and stop comparing.
Ramblings.
not rambling at all. Comparison is a LOT more than the thief of joy. It destroys lives. Look within and find your own unique inner vision and voice, I agree.
yeah I guess i got alot of anger built up, my problem is i need to let go of the past.
The stoic mindset is one alternative.
yes! but best combined with honesty and vulnerability
@@ForestForThought yes. Authenticity
Yeah, but everyone who fancies themself a stoic, never could take it that seriously. Give up everything the modern world values and you'll be happy? Does anyone believe that?
Being surrounded by fools 24/7 is insufferable, but if you don't do it you get to starve under a bridge somewhere.
That is life as a gifted person. And for every highly visible success case, there are a hundred more living in constant fear and pain.
I have MR and I get angry all the time
Man, It'd be so interesting to have a long conversation with you, or being your friend
Great video. Btw, have you ever read "Meditations", by Marcus Aurelius? If not, I strongly recommend it. Not so directly, but very related to what you spoke.
People don't like being held to their own standards because their standards are not rational, even when they're not contradictory.
It's hard to not be angry when you realise most people around you are stupid.
I'm trying to Google about the philosopher you talked about but i think i spelled the name wrong because i couldn't reach any results, can you please write her name and her books' titles?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayn_Rand
Because they have better ideas than others but aren't listened to more. What else matters?
I thought "gifted" is no longer allowable to say. It has been banned in all school systems I've heard of in the US.
What's the politically correct word of the moment?
Being gifted is worthless if you create nothing. There's no getting around it. You have to adapt. You have to find a way to socialize. You're not Nietzsche, you're not Dostoevsky. If you're gonna use your gift, you need real life experiences to base it on. Nothing is more narcissistic than living in a self deluded dream world, where you have to comfort yourself with thoughts about how gifted you are. Anger comes from a lack a purpose, not from intellect. Though if you are smart and don't use it you will have a lot of resentment.
Why is this comment being ignored? it's the ACTUAL answer.
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Hi Eric, I'm wondering how you define gifted? Of course you are right to note that being a reactionary is to still be in thrall to convention. I watched the Disney film of _20,000 Leagues Under the Sea_ a few days ago, and Captain Nemo is a perfect Ayn-Randian character: the smartest guy in the world who goes about sinking ships and killing hundreds of people because he has issues with society at large. Wonder if Rand read Verne?
Perhaps a certain amount of dissociation from "The Mask" is healthy? Thoughts?
Being gifted is having higher fluid intelligence than average, leading to increased abilities to learn and develop new skills and solve problems in unusual ways. :)
Being gifted means being intensely emotional, highly empathetic, extremely curious, sharply intuitive, very creative and ethical, overwhelmingly existential... you own a witty humor that normies don't get, you make observations that others can't even imagine, you ask questions that no one else dare to ask, you're physically and intellectually sensitive, and yes you're also clever.
Being gifted means to see details of reality that the others doesn't see or value, it means to understand that everything is conected in a trascendental and spiritual level, it means you cry easily while watching a flower in the sunset or how people is dying in the tv-news, it means that people will bully, reject and pathologize you for being born different.
It means know there's no reason for anyone being evil.
It means you're an outcast species lost in a strange world, ruled by cruel and hypocritical creatures that want to mutilate and put into a box everything what they dislike and don't understand.
It means you are alone.
@@Terron-de-pimienta Thanks. I'm so glad I'm not gifted.
@@michelleeden2272lol 😂😂
You obviously did not read it very well. Anger, definitely, but not against people. But against system. Weak men create bad times. Look around you what pandering to idiots and broken is getting us. Drug addicts on every corner. Entire city blocks abandoned by every shop available. We are heading to judge Dredd scenario.
If you knew your vision, no matter what it was, was not only worthwhile but revolutionary yet everyone else around you was too ignorant and self involved to see it you'd be pissed too. Like when you make a masterpiece with touchstones and references to all these different interweaving concepts spanning generations and many different fields of knowledge but the audience only knows about spongebob, iphones, and pop culture of the last 10-15 years. Yea, you'd be really pissed. It's also a very lonely road when you can't deeply relate to other people because they are too stupid to see you in your true light. All they had to do was not be so self involved and just be curious about the world and everything in it. Far too tall of a task for 99.9% of people.
I figured out a long time ago that people just want to use you and to ruin what you love about life, so fuck people in general. No harm intended though.
But with doing that, the aggrieved party is doing all the work.......
There can also be physically gifted geniuses (sports, athleticism, instruments) and creative ones that create art.
youre the opposite of helpful, adding information not only totally useless to solving the problem at hand but also already universally understood.
Giftedness is a physiological difference in the nervous system and a different processing and storage system for information. Gifted does not mean talented in a particular activity. The intelligence aspect is usually called being “smart” , but it has much more to do with higher capacity/bandwidths, increased processing speed and an entirely different way of conceptualizing information.
"Infinity Source" = "The Fountainhead"
If the gifted are so angry/anger they're not really gifted because angry/anger is a sign of weakness of intelligence,
Why we get angry makes all the difference.
@@RaitoVersace angry is useless,
Giftedness comes with intensity because of the physiological difference and anger is not weakness it is the body signal that tells a person a value has been violated and its purpose is to induce action.
@@Diverse_Interests you're just aristotle answer i am rational therefore i am not aristotle like you,