How To Change Beta 4T (350, 390, 430, 500) Transmission Oil The Right Way| Confirmed by Beta USA
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We show you the only right way to change the transmission oil in the later model Beta four strokes (350, 390, 430, 500) (confirmed by Beta USA) so that you don't burn up your clutch by under-filling the transmission.
Beta user manuals are poorly translated and conflicting and can lead you to fill the transmission incorrectly, I've burned four clutches following the manual and related "guidance" from various local dealers who didn't really know what they were doing.
As we show you in the video, you cannot rely on the "check plug" for determining the oil level and instead MUST pour in the FULL RECOMMENDED QUANTITY every single time or you will blow up your clutch.
I highly recommend the factory suggested oil type, MOTUL Trans Oil Expert 10w-40 transmission oil. Each transmission oil change requires at least 750mL of transmission oil, so buy a quart each time and make sure you have enough.
Using third party oils can lead to poor shifting, missed gears, and trouble finding neutral, I've tried a few and none of them work like the factory MOTUL in these bikes.
We also include confirmation from Beta USA in the video to document the oil change procedure we teach here. Finally, always recycle your old motor oil, let's make sure our kids have a planet to ride on too :) - Jak na to + styl
Thanks for posting this video. I have a Beta 390RR 4T Enduro 2021 and it’s super awesome. Fairly new on Beta dirtbike and this vid is really helpful.
Very glad it's helped!
You went thru a lot of clutches because of this! I hope you got compensated.
Thanks for explaining this important point. Then manual is very confusing (especially if you ever owned a KTM where the screw is for the level).
Yup!
Partner,
Thanks so much for this video. I bought my BETA 390 RRS second hand and am sure that the previous owner could have benefited from your experience. It did not have enough trans oil in the system. It has 800 ML now, shifts smoother and sounds better.
Hope it helps
I wonder if that's why mine sounds kinda ticky and it's hard to find neutral. Thanks a lot for posting this
That was hugely helpful, bro. Thanks!
Cool! I did it wrong a bunch, with really bad results. So glad to hear my experience is helping someone else.
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes I was just doing my 30 hour oil changes when I ran across your video, so the bike is still very new and hopefully your video helps me avoid the clutch issues you ran across. Thanks again!
Thanks for sharing...!
For sure, hope it helps
Thanks. I was just about to do my first oil change on a brand new 2021 390RR Race.
Awesome! This video was on a four stroke. Not sure if it's the same on the 2 strokes.
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes Yes, my 390 is a four stroke. But I do have the 2018 Beta 300RR Race Edition also but Im pretty sure the oil fill indicator is accurate on that bike. I remember measuring from a full bottle and it taking the recommended amount, which was also 750mls. Actually, I'm going to test my fill indicator when I change the oil later today to see how much oil it takes before it runs out.
Duh, my bad. I read "300" on your last post 🤦♂️.
Awesome, I'm curious if they fixed this issue on your model. Let us know!
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes Will do. Yes, I figured you knew that but just wanted to make sure we were on same page. :-)
In fact, I did change the transmission/gear oil today. I used the oil fill indicator. The oil started coming out the hole fairly close to where it was supposed to, maybe a 100-150 mls short. And I added a bit more after I put the screw back in to bring it closer to the specified amount. So I'm not really seeing much of an issue. Obviously, if the bike isn't exactly level, it could throw off the measurement quite a bit when you use the oil fill indicator. Fortunately, I was using a new 1 liter bottle so I can easily determine how much oil I added.
The rekluse cover is a bit larger than stock. I saw in a rekluse review that you need to compensate with a bit more oil. I only know enough to bring up the question in case someone was wondering. You sound like you know your bike well so I look forward to a reply. Great video!
Great point! The Rekluse clutch has 12 plates instead of the regular 6. They are thinner but the basket it a bit larger. Also to your point the case cover is larger so it would require a bit more oil. Not exactly sure how much but like we mentioned in the video it doesn’t really harm the system to overfill it a bit.
thanks for info great stuff,
on a different note, my '22 390 has a different heat shield by right leg to yours...mine much smaller.
what model is your bike? do you know if that heat shield just up from right footpeg is available?
cheers
Good stuff. 👍
Thanks 🙏🏻
Great video. My 2017 is set up the same anatomically speaking. Do you happen to know if this procedure is the same for my 2017?
Not totally sure, but be careful you don’t under fill it.
Good to know. I just got a Beta 390 RRS. I checked before riding using the side hole method. I had to add about 400 mls before it leaked out of the side hole. Wonder how much is in there now? Going to do the 1st oil change now. Thanks!
Yeah, it def needs the full amount.
Hi , tnx for video. in right side on silinder head is 3 black plug (same like oil level check plug) nuts 5mm hex key. do you know , what for the middle cup plug is ? tnx
I am not sure. I don't have this bike anymore so I am not able to take a look.
Hi!, can you please indicate me which thread is the actual one of the transmission oil drain plug you have in your hands on 2:28 ?? Could be M16X1.5 ???. Thank you!
I don’t know and no longer have this bike unfortunately.
Hello! I’m going to change the oil on my Beta. I have some questions. Do I need to buy a separate gear oil or I can just put the same oil as in the engine? Do you have to pour about 750 ml on both sides ( in engine and gearbox) so that makes a total of 1500 ml of oil?
They recommend two separate oils. I always used both kinds as suggested. Yes, each side takes about 750ml
Is the engine oil completely separated from the gearbox oil? Can they ever get mixed?
They are completely separated. They can only mix if the seal fails in between the two halves.
No to confuse the issue but ..... what i did find interesting .... for the MOTOR oil change (not the transmission/gear oil)... if you don't follow the prescribed process in the Beta manual, you could end up with only 4-500 ml only in the engine, instead of 700+. You need to put some oil in, start the engine and let it run for a bit, then measure through the inspection window while the bike is idling! Can't say I knew that. Again ... maybe just better to put in the 750 ml from the start like the transmission. Whatever happened to oil dipsticks?
A check stick seems like the easy option for sure.
Can someone please tell me the amount of hours between service intervals on the 500RRS?
On the 390 that I had, oil changes were recommended every 30 hours as I recall. The manuals are available on the Beta website if you dig around a bit.
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes lol yep thanks! I looked up the manual right after I left the comment. Just trying to decide between beta or fe501s.
My vote is for KTM. Checkout our review of the 21 500
What about the 2T? Book says the same thing, fill to the check port.
I don't know for sure, but I'd read that really carefully. If it gives an estimated refill volume, I'd probably go with that over the fill hole personally.
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes Has the same Recommendation of 800ml, so been at least making sure that much went back in based on the clear line on the motul bottle +/-. Even the photos were the same of the check hole in the manual you showed, so I'm guessing trans is similar or the same case at least. Great video, been something bugging me for awhile now, just thinking the check port isn't big enough to not get an air bubble trapped blocking the hole when the oil's cold enough.
Yeah, it's a big problem in my opinion. Super glad you figured it out without burning a few clutches like I had to do.
Is the engine and transmission oil the same??
No, on these bikes the two are separated.
I meant is it the same oil that i have to put in the gearbox as the engine oil?
Oh, nope. That's also different. The recommended oil is specific for the engineer vs. the trans. They're different colored so you can tell if they're leaking across.
Hi !
Can you tell something about the traction control of beta 500 rrs ? I want to know if the throtle is still abrupt in rain mode. Can ABS be instaled from another motorcycle ? Do you know if the piston has 3 rings , as Honda CRF450L has ? How many HP in rain mode ?
Don't know much about the throttle maps unfortunately. I had the 390, and I don't care for traction control so never used it.
@@ExtremeSportsWannaBes Thank you for the reply.
Wow! Maybe some lawsuits for damaged engines. Good luck with that though!
Thanks! I just made it a learning experience ☺️
Thank you for the info. Flat earth crew
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