$250,000 Difference?! Ferrari 458 Speciale VS 458 Italia

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  • @AB-80X
    @AB-80X Před 8 měsíci +5

    The Speciale has the same size brake rotors. If you remove the internal drum brake assembly of the rear brake rotors on the regular 458, the rotors interchange. They are essentially the same brakes as are found on the 488 and F8. Calipers are also the same between the Speciale, 488, F8, TdF and 812. I learned all of this when I bought Surface Transforms rotors for my 488 and Pista. The Pista does have a different front rotor because it is 38 mm wide, but a regular 36 wide rotor and 38 mm wide rotor actually interchange between all the above cars.

  • @junkyardhemi
    @junkyardhemi Před 8 měsíci +3

    Very cool video Dan. Each car has some unique features that I either like or dislike. Never really noticed them because I’ve never seen them side by side. When the opportunity arises do more videos like this.

  • @sealgrey.911
    @sealgrey.911 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Awesome comparison! Thanks, Dan, good job! 👍

  • @cobra1010
    @cobra1010 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Good presentation! Thank you Dan!

  • @josephmccormack6910
    @josephmccormack6910 Před 8 měsíci +2

    This like the Ginger or Mary Ann question. Neither one is getting kicked out of the garage.
    Carbon fiber everywhere on both. But the Speciale is more refined and "grown up"
    Both are awesome with subtle differences.
    Great video.

  • @ehsanja1153
    @ehsanja1153 Před měsícem

    I really like this guy! Nice videos

  • @trebm3
    @trebm3 Před 8 měsíci

    awesome to have such a rare car in for sale at your dealership. I'd come by just to look at the masterpiece

  • @AB-80X
    @AB-80X Před 8 měsíci

    The Speciale CF seats are the same CF seats as was later used in the 488 and F8. Those paddles looks to be the factory paddles which are also found in the Pista.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah I was curious on the paddles as the 458 has much much smaller ones

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X Před 8 měsíci

      @@normalguysupercar
      The long paddles are standard on all VS cars these days. You can also order them as an option. Got them in my F8. I feel like once you get used to them, you can’t really go back to the short paddles. They are so much nicer to use.

  • @zjick
    @zjick Před 8 měsíci +7

    A 458 Spider with a few mods (larger PS4S tires, novitec springs, RSC1 brake pads) is more polyvalent, as fun and a lot cheaper 😎

  • @mariodesmo
    @mariodesmo Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Speciale seems to have more in common with the Scud than the Italia. There is similar trim on the Scud as the Speciale. And of course the different engine/tranny spec in the Speciale and Scud, than the normal versions of each. I'd be interested in a comparison between a Scud and Speciale...

    • @RossoFormula
      @RossoFormula Před 8 měsíci +1

      I second the Scud vs Speciale comparison since I'm looking at getting a Scud, but don't know if I should just keep saving for the Speciale instead.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah I want to do that comparison for sure

    • @74SD455TA
      @74SD455TA Před 6 měsíci

      Sounds like the only answer is BOTH!@@RossoFormula

  • @gnashsang
    @gnashsang Před 8 měsíci

    The pricing you have this listed at makes it a great deal

  • @Terranova911RS
    @Terranova911RS Před 8 měsíci +4

    The problem ist just that the Speciale is too expensive to drive it and to have fun with it. The difference in "fun factor" to the Italia isn´t that big and only really noticible on a race track.
    You could have mention that the Speciale has the same brakes like the La Ferrari.
    It is much more fun driving the Italia instead of keeping the Speciale in the garage, life is too shot for not having fun.
    On a side note, "not driving your car to keep mileage low for resale, is like not banging your girlfriend to keep her tight for the next guy".

    • @JustinTipton
      @JustinTipton Před 8 měsíci

      The "fun factor" in the Speciale is higher, whenever there are curves, as it doesn't have "safety understeer" built into it like an Italia does. It rotates like a dream.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci

      Yeah it's approaching the too valuable point rapidly

    • @Terranova911RS
      @Terranova911RS Před 8 měsíci

      Yea and that is worth 300k ? Keep on dreaming. @@JustinTipton

  • @the-bu3lb
    @the-bu3lb Před 8 měsíci

    Can u take the fenders hood ect and put it on the reg 458?

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci

      Sort-of. The rear is a problem as it's a different exhaust.

  • @haroldmclean3755
    @haroldmclean3755 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Either one would make a Great Christmas gift 🎅🤶 Ho Ho Ho 👍😉

  • @JW-lo2bh
    @JW-lo2bh Před 8 měsíci

    Another "Speciale" video! Keep them coming!

  • @johnt9783
    @johnt9783 Před 4 měsíci

    I Love these cars. I Love this video. I Love it all.

  • @billhenley6605
    @billhenley6605 Před 8 měsíci

    Did you know that your EGO leaf blower can really shorten toweling time after a wash?

  • @vitaliy7539
    @vitaliy7539 Před 8 měsíci +1

    More like $400k difference? Since you have Speciale listed at $535k, you are not expecting this Turdalia to fetch $285k or even $185k for that matter?

  • @mustafaaa772
    @mustafaaa772 Před měsícem

    458 speciale interior is absolutely stunning ❤

  • @brianweekes1
    @brianweekes1 Před 8 měsíci

    It would be relatively easy to replicate the 458 speciale from the 458 Italia, I could do it. Although I really like the standard 458 Italia.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci

      That's a lot of stuff that's different and a lot of money

  • @nbaumg
    @nbaumg Před 8 měsíci

    you need to mention price!
    it would be best to talk about it at the beginning so we can listen to the differences with context

  • @tjwatkins8381
    @tjwatkins8381 Před 8 měsíci

    What about the exhaust sound?

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Speciale is worth every penny; very expensive but still under valued. Think about how many resto-mod 911s from Singer and Gunther Werks that are selling for way more money than this incredible machine. The Speciale will blow them all away; better performing, better sounding, better looking, lower production numbers, etc. How many F1 championships has Porsche won?? In 20 years we will have companies chopping up normal 458s turning them into "Speciale tribute cars" selling for over $3mm...

  • @jafooli
    @jafooli Před 7 měsíci

    One common difference is that speciales interiors are usually in perfect condition. While Italia's look old and worn. If you get a perfect condition Italia with carbon everything and carbon race seats, I think it holds up well against the speciales interior.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 7 měsíci +1

      That's mostly because they are alcantara which holds up to wear better than the soft leather

  • @ndpesicgroup
    @ndpesicgroup Před 8 měsíci

    Such a beautiful spec.....

  • @dennisgallear409
    @dennisgallear409 Před 8 měsíci

    Rather cool

  • @dzikijohnny
    @dzikijohnny Před 8 měsíci

    I'm guessing there are kits to make a Italia look like a Speciale...

  • @MS-1994
    @MS-1994 Před 8 měsíci

    I can remember when the coupes were priced reasonably... those days are clearly over!

  • @MarcSob22
    @MarcSob22 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Those wheels on the 458 Italia are actually from the 16M not the 458! Regarding the engine rpm limit, in fact the Speciale engine can spin above 10000rpm, but it was limited by emissions at the time, it was not approved so Ferrari limited the engine speed cut. Love both cars, but the Speciale is a dream! Good content

    • @jameswillard1
      @jameswillard1 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Those are the correct wheels on the 458, not sure what you’re referring to? The Speciale engine may be capable of spinning to 10k but I doubt it would be effective at that RPM considering that useful power rapidly trails off after 8,000RPM

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci +2

      Those are definitely the correct wheels it came with from the factory

  • @mavericknonconformist69721
    @mavericknonconformist69721 Před 8 měsíci +1

    My dreams are limited to a 370Z.

  • @pjcornell9691
    @pjcornell9691 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Wow, why would the owner decide to sell that car. KEEP iT!
    It is like divorcing the Perfext wife. Insanity!

  • @kevinmanning8214
    @kevinmanning8214 Před 8 měsíci

    Over $500,000 and no glove box?!?!? Well I’m OUT! 😂

  • @robmela
    @robmela Před 8 měsíci

    love the speciale. I've replaced the exhaust to capristo and brakes to girodisc steel ones. ceramics didn't work, impossible to warmup them on the streets.

  • @sherlonio
    @sherlonio Před 2 měsíci

    The Ferrari Enzo has active aero

  • @ricsu3462
    @ricsu3462 Před 8 měsíci +1

    it's more like 325k difference....i wish it's 250k @@

  • @richard-markdodds305
    @richard-markdodds305 Před 8 měsíci

    The Speciale def sounds worse due to the shorter exhaust pipe

  • @BrianCorish
    @BrianCorish Před 8 měsíci +7

    Ok I’ll be the first one to say it.. I have no doubt the Speciale is superior to drive but the standard 458 is a better looking car.

    • @IceAce1
      @IceAce1 Před 8 měsíci

      👍 just my thought. The only feature of the Speciale that I find cool is the ducktail, but the regular 458 is sporty yet much more bella machina overall.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci +2

      I prefer the speciale but the 458 is no slouch in the looks department

  • @bmx687
    @bmx687 Před 8 měsíci

    Dan! Keep the speciale for yourself!

  • @Tothefloor
    @Tothefloor Před 8 měsíci

    Can you changed your into with the cop talking? I think it’s time guys.

  • @racekar80
    @racekar80 Před 8 měsíci

    To me the plain 458 is the most beautiful Ferrari ever.

  • @nickhoffman5524
    @nickhoffman5524 Před 8 měsíci

    so you have lightweight nuts huh? hey just kidding incredible car

  • @mariodelcid2479
    @mariodelcid2479 Před 8 měsíci

    The speciale is more a raw driver experience everything more crisp

  • @scottmaz4063
    @scottmaz4063 Před 8 měsíci

    Both of them are beautiful but the speciale molto cabella

  • @zo2913
    @zo2913 Před 8 měsíci

    How any serious car enthusiest can drive an automatic just goes to show another reason rome is on the brink of falling.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci +2

      I'm gonna have to say that's BS. I like manuals, and I like flappy paddles. Both have a place and both can be extremely fun.

    • @bngr_bngr
      @bngr_bngr Před měsícem

      These cars are beyond the abilities of most drivers. Having to shift the car can make it more dangerous to the car.😂

  • @Electronicai
    @Electronicai Před 8 měsíci

    That's just another 458 worth of money

  • @michaelbutcher9343
    @michaelbutcher9343 Před 8 měsíci

    Yup

  • @hughmann1908
    @hughmann1908 Před 8 měsíci

    Um no! 😂

  • @cyuiyuwyguiyui8540
    @cyuiyuwyguiyui8540 Před 8 měsíci

    2M bucks in 15 years..

    • @dannyarooster
      @dannyarooster Před 8 měsíci +1

      Hope that's true...would make the 458 elevate too. Delta from Italia to speciale isn't as wide as 488 to pista

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X Před 8 měsíci

      @@dannyarooster
      The delta between the Italia and Speciale will more than likely widen significantly in the coming years. Look at older cars like the 360 and 360CS or F430 and 430 Scud. At the end of the day sooooo many Italia's has been produced compared to Speciale's, and that usually affects such things.
      As for 2M in 15 years? Perhaps, but that has to be measured against inflation and so on. Will 2M be a lot if the future equivalent to an F8 or 296 is close to or over 1M? It's like an F40. It's worth 8-10 times it's MSRP, but it's also 36 years old. In 1987 349k was a lot of money.
      Speculation is hard with mass produced exotics, and there are many owners out there with big dreams of massive fortunes. I doubt it will change much though. By that I mean that for a car to really become something to invest in, it has to be very rare and sought after. Something like a TdF, Comp, GTO, or 599 SA might become one of those cars, but reality is that few things are sure-fire investments, unless you talk halo cars or significant historic cars.

    • @normalguysupercar
      @normalguysupercar  Před 8 měsíci

      I suspect it will be always considered one of the top Ferraris and therefore have huge values

  • @algustopovoas6148
    @algustopovoas6148 Před 2 měsíci

    😯👍👍👍🙏🚗