Evolution of TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES - 40 Years Explained | CARTOON EVOLUTION
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- CARTOON EVOLUTION #42 / POP CULTURE EVOLUTION #9 - TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES (TMNT)
I take a look at the history and evolution of the TMNT. Launching in 1984 as a small, independent comic - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles quickly exploded! With a globally popular cartoon series, action figure line, and live-action movie trilogy in only a matter of a few years, Turtlemania took the world by storm - spawning dozens of re-boots, spin-offs and franchise instalments in the following decades.
In this video, we’ll trace his evolution from 1945 to now. To do so, we’ll trace their evolution from 1984 to now. To do so, we’ll touch on their design and thematic changes over 4 decades of comics, series, movies, and merchandise. Here's my look at the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles through the years!
CLIPS & MEDIA FEATURED
TMNT Media
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1989 cartoon)TMNT: Coming Out of Their Shells Tour
RTD Presents Operation Blue Line
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Movie
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II: Secrets of the Ooze
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
Turtle Tunes
We Wish You a Turtle Christmas
Mutant Turtles: Choukin Densetsu-hen / Superman Legend
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: The Next Mutation
Power Rangers in Space: Shell Shocked
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles / Out of the Sewers (2003 cartoon)
Turtles Forever
TMNT (2007)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 cartoon)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2014)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2: Out of the Shadows (2016)
Rise of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles / The Movie
Batman vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
DC Injustice 2 - TMNT DLC Pack
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem
OTHER MEDIA
He-Man and the Masters of the Universe
G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero
Transformers
Superman IV: The Quest for Peace
Howard the Duck
My Lucky Stars (Jackie Chan at Golden Harvest)
Take On Me - Aha!
Money for Nothing - Dire Straits
Billie Jean - Michael Jackson
Ghostbusters
Batman (1989)
Underground - David Bowie (Labyrinth)
Jim Henson’s The Storyteller
National Lampoon’s Men in White
Batman: The Dark Knight
The LEGO Movie
Steven Spielberg’s Ready Player One
Barbie
Oppenheime
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I love how this whole massive franchise literally spawned from a joke. The concept is so outlandish, yet works so well. I first got into the turtles from the 2012 series, and I absolutely loved it. It's how I first got really into ninjitzu. They're the ultimate ninja team, and the world wouldn't be the same without them.
The greatest properties ever have spawned from some kind of in-joke or "one-off" idea - it just makes them seem so much more special! Thanks for the generous comment!
Two (presumed) stoners from NH make a Daredevil parody about turtles learning ninjitsu. Now it’s one of the most profitable IPs in the world.
I love the teenage mutant ninja turtles and they'll have a bright future for everyone dave!
Jut-su ❤
@@DaveLeeDownUnderI love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
I’m glad that Rise has garnered a very loyal fan following after it was initially savaged by older fans. I’m sure many agree that Nickelodeon should have given it more of a chance and let it “find it’s voice” like other series that garner scorn. Fortunately Netflix made a great call by securing the deal to make the movie, and give it the ending it deserved.
The show, I admit, wasn't necessarily for me... but I absolutely HATED how older fans were so toxic towards it, ridiculing it and those who enjoyed it. While it's not "my" Turtles, I aboslutely appreciated them taking a creative swing with it, and more than anything else, I LOVED the animation. "Rise" and its fans definitely deserve better. Now that I think about it, I actually really enjoyed the "Rise" movie!
@@thedefinitionisthisRise definitely imo has some of the strongest depictions of Donatello and April and the new villains it introduced truly are memorable.
@@thedefinitionisthisIt’s probably a textbook example of how “new” doesn’t mean “bad”. I think a big factor in the initial scorn was that it was very different from last iterations and more colorful, humorous and energetic. It also didn’t help that it premiered only one year after the conclusion of the 2012 series, which enjoyed an increasingly darker tone and strong storytelling as it went on.
@@thedefinitionisthis If you’ve seen it, I’m sure you’ll know how it really runs with the more energetic style and for lack of a better word, “fun” nature of the turtles.
Here, here.
The one thing about the Turtles is that if for some reason you mention their namesakes, people will immediately think of the Ninja Turtles and not the Renaissance artists
I think one of the things that has made TMNT so special is how it such a silly premise, but it embraces the concept with sincerity, allowing audiences to be in on the fun. Also, and this is most prevalent in Mutant Mayhem, it really tackles themes of being the weird one and the feeling of wanting to fit in, but fear that no one would accept you, which I’m sure most people can relate to. It sure is a property that has “the outsider” written in it’s DNA, not just because of the mutant and stealth elements, but also that it started off as an independent piece of work from just two guys, isolated from the biggest publishers, which I find very inspirational.
I love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem
S-tier documentary. The origin story of the TMNT franchise is very inspiring, spawning one of the most famous and respected multimedia franchises from humble beginnings. I really like the Turtles, and I'm happy to see they're still relevant after all these years.
Thank you! 😭🙏
@@DaveLeeDownUnderI love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Despite Venus being very hated by fans and by Laird, she HAS made appearances in the IDW comics, and the 2012 series has made a noticeable noticeable homage. This includes a graphic on the side of the Party Wagon of a green pin up girl on a bomb that says “Venus”.
Not only that but if Rise of the TMNT wasn't cancelled we would have gotten an episode focusing on her. She actually appears in what we have of the show in disguise in the background of one scene.
I love Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles🥷🐢
Ok, SOMEONE has to say it…
Cowabunga dudes!!!
Heroes in a Half-Shell, TURTLE POWER!
The 80s Ninja Turtles GOTTA go to Paramount+
Yup
Yeah! I agree! It should also go to the Nickelodeon networks as well! This should be exciting!
They will next year supposedly. Nickelodeon got the rights recently.
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is part of nickelodeon
2003,2012 and Rise are my favorite versions of TMNT
The original 1990 movie is still my favorite version of the characters. It had a great balance of the comics' darker edge, the cartoon's sense of humor, and a story with sincerity and heart. It also gave us those awesome Jim Henson's Creature Shop designs. I haven't seen Mutant Mayhem yet but it looks pretty fun. I'm glad the Turtles are still going strong.
Absolutely Love TMNT! Grew up with the franchise since 84 and has been great ever since! Whethers its the original Comics, Cartoons, action figures, movies, or incredible video games- each offered something unique and special that'll always stay with you!
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is the best
Crazy! This Comic Started As A Joke But Little Did You Know This Franchise Would Soon Evolved Into Most Loved Franchise Ever (To This Day!)
I just got myself into Ninja Turtles because of Mutant Mayhem.
I'm excited to see teenage mutant ninja turtles mutant mayhem too!
Welcome!!
Me too
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Mutant Mayhem Is Getting a Sequel and a TV Show
The 2014 Ninja Turtles movie is a weird one. It may have some weird creative choices like having Shredder and Eric Sachs be two separate characters and can be quite convoluted like how Sachs was responsible for the destruction of the lab and killed April’s father, but at the same time, it does have some very enjoyable moments, such as the hoshi scene and the elevator scene. This is why I much prefer Out of the Shadows, as I feel it’s a lot more consistent and focuses more on being a live-action episode of the ‘87 cartoon. Yeah, it’s also not perfect but it’s the more enjoyable one imo.
Dave only uploads once a month, but when he does, it’s a banger
I remember watching the 2003 series every chance I could, and trying to think of which Turtle I most emulated (it's Donatello, btw, i decided). Today, TMNT is one of my fav series and I binge watch the 2003 series almost yearly to remember the good ol' days of my childhood
I love the tmnt 2003 series and turtles forever!
Same
I've watched the tmnt for as long as I can remember. Theyre my favorite thing ever, and I love them to this day
Has any franchise been (successfully) rebooted MORE than the Ninja Turtles?
Love em!
The 2012 TMNT series has always been my favorite series, but I recently saw Rise and it’s a close second.
Favorite TMNT media:
1 - Original Eastman/Laird comic.
2 - 1990 first movie adaptation.
3 - IDW comic book TMNT series.
4 - Nickelodeon TMNT 2012 CGI series.
Toys:
1 - 1990 movie-based action figures.
2 - 2003 Turtle Lair playset.
3 - 1990 Nintendo Arcade game II
Being a British 80s kid, I still think of the original cartoon as the “Hero Turtles” which is the version I have most nostalgia for, but I think my favourite version is the 2012 series.
i also like the 2012 series too,
Saying it now. Despite the ups and downs. TMNT will always be my favorite franchise in the whole universe
This was great. You should do an evaluation of the voices.
No current plans to cover the voices. Maybe one day.
I'l be waiting for the voice evolution of the teenage mutant ninja turtles!
@@DaveLeeDownUnderhey.
I love the turtles! The original few comics by Eastman and Laird and the original film are my favourite pieces of TMNT content. Over the years I would have given different answers, the nice thing about the franchise is that there’s somthing for everyone of all ages and interests in sci-fi/action.
Shoutout to the original film’s sound track that I bought on tape at a yard sale when I was a kid(grew up in the 2000s). That was my most consistent exposure to them
Eastman and laird are the real heroes to bring four turtles who are ninjas for the world!
Me too
This is great dave and the teenage mutant ninja turtles are awesome plus my favorite moments of the tmnt are the 80s and the 2012 series and my favorite movie is teenage mutant ninja turtles mutant mayhem so these heroes are the best so thank you kevin and peter!
Nice one DAVE. From this arsenal, my favorites of the Tmnt bunch, are: 1987 cartoon (which I had 2 vhs tapes), 2003 series (+2007 movie) and 2012, just naming a few. It’s ninja time, or Turtle Power
As well, Turtles Forever 2009 special
I love the 1987 teenage mutant ninja turtles show after all these years!
Despite some folks hating it, I love TMNT2 Secret of the Ooze! Too many funny gags, 1 liners, the animatronics/ puppets were superior to the 1st( showing how advance the Jim Henson crew truly are) and had a Super Shredder! Im gonna watch it right now with some Combat Coldcuts!!!😂
Thank you David
This is so amazing! I hope you’re all better now! Will you do an Evolution on Rocky & Bullwinkle and Mr. Magoo soon?
I want to see a cartoon evolution of rocky and bullwinkle and mr.magoo as well!
Thanks so much! Doing better now, thank you! Have no immediate plans for them, but they’re on the list!
Tmnt are my favorite franchise from my childhood!
Same
Man, those Michael Bay turtle designs are hard to look at. I always forget how creepy they were.
TMNT is a superhero!
This isn't even grammatically correct
@@evy9439 why?
Great Video of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!
Love these Cartoon Evolutions! Always so rich and entertaining! Cheers, Dave!!
This is the best cartoon evolution video ever dave!
Thank you 😊
TMNT 2012 has personally been my favorite incarnation.
The ninja turtles have always had such a massive presence in my life since 2007 but I didn’t start to really get into it until 2012. Now reading the original comics it’s such a wild difference to me. However I can see how the comic became what we know
At last you did it.
ROTTMNT was my first introduction to the TMNT universe, so it will always be my favorite
Dave, this is a phenomenal video! Absolutely love you covering so much of the turtles history and lore of this video when you could have stopped at any point in time but chosw to move onward! Bless you so much for this awesome treat! TMNT as a huge favorite of mine and many others here and we're glad you covered it so well!❤
Thank you as always!! 🙏
Never thought I’d see the day where Dave would talk about anime here.
I occasionally, if it makes sense or the story requires it.
COWABUNGA!!! Loved it, Dave!
Thanks, Leo!
TMNT 2012 is my favorite version
❤
I like how the Title card had 3 donnies and 3 leos, and 1 raph and mikey.
So far I feel like the franchise hasn't had a true failier with it's animated shows, and or it's animated movies really. The original is a massively influential classic, the 2003 and 2012 shows are both fantastic in their own ways, and while I've not seen the 2018 series it does sound like it turned out better than many of us initially feared. Even the 2007 film I remember thinking was alright, and from the look of it the Batman crossover and the new film are also both really solid.
The major point of struggle always seems to be live action, with basically only the original movie being unanimously liked and all others being either mixed or outright hated
Cool
Videos like this are why I love this channel, well researched and explained
Thanks so much!
Awesome as always, Dave
Thank you!
I how the 2012 series started out with a very fun, Teen Titans vibe but eventually went even darker than the 2003 series.
That’s why I prefer it over 2003 because when I was little I loved it because of the lighter tone in the first 2 seasons,but as the other 3 seasons went on,I apréciated the darker tone as I grew up.
Me too
Great video dude. Love the Eastman and Laird love.
Thank you, mate!
Awesomeness video can’t wait for another video dude! 100%❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
(roughly 12 minutes in) Always love to see a Miyamoto Usagi appearance in TMNT content!
Nice
Great job Dave. I really enjoyed this.
Thank you!!
So I've noticed, over the years with TMNT, the following will happen.. The first movie will be a hit, the sequel not so much but still make some money, there will be a turtle fatigue where people will lose interest in a series but come roaring back for the next one, and finally... no matter how gritty or tough the turtles are, a parent group will come in and ruin the series! This is happening with the original 80s Show, 2003 series, and onward as they feel the turtles are too violent and want to dumb it down for the children... who are very sick of that! Hell, i was one of them!!!😂
Great episode man. Love me some TMNT. The 2003 and 2007 version along with Rise are my favorites.
Thanks heaps!
Fun fact: One of my favorite video games, Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time (2013), has a turtle character named Bentley who is the sole star of a hacking minigame called "Alter Ego", and his avatar resembles Raphael. If you have two controllers, there will be a second avatar in the minigame that resembles Leonardo. Unfortunately, game designer Mat Kraemer has confirmed that the minigame avatar is actually based on John Rambo, which disappoints me, but it's still interesting to note because Bentley's avatar looks a lot like the TMNT. The game also has other TMNT references in it, namely Bentley saying, "The last time I was in these sewers, I was just a teenager" and a mission called "Shell Shocked Heart", which I think could be a reference to the Turtles arcade games.
I never knew what the turtles were when i was little, but when discovered a tape i got to watch it, didn't know what the episode was about but one of the scenes involved giving pizza to master shredder pizza with marshmallows and fudge, he kinda refused in mild disgust and anther scene that involved that april got bald and had to wear a mask or wig. (Didn't know which one, i was little back then) and that's how i got to know them. Loved them eversince.
By the way, it was the 1980s cartoon that made me fall in love with the franchise.
Thanks for covering this DVDU!
Right on time for my birthday. Great video.
Thank you, and happy birthday!
I've always preferred Lego Ninjago, but it's hard to not love the Turtles if you're a classic geek
Thanks for another great video, Dave. I enjoyed watching it with my pizza. The original 1980s/1990s animated series is the only version of this franchise I'm familiar with (and because I'm from the UK, I knew it as "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles"). Still, I'm happy to see that these characters form my teenage years are on their way to becoming pop culture perennials.
Yeah that was Amazing !!
TMNT seems to be another perfect example that busts the “Animation is just for kids” misconception.
Happy 40th anniversary to teenage mutant ninja turtles 🥷🐢☣️☢️💙💜❤️🧡🍕
Excellent video the one's are the 03 tmnt for being the most accurate and most dark
Thank you!
Amazing
I remember Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles when I was a kid I remember the 2012 series even the 80s and 90s series, either online or the 10th season on DVD. as for the movie itself from 1990, the battle sequences are the most intact, even battling the shredder, and I never cared too much of stuff that has been happening until now And I never cared too much about the sequels as well even TMNT 2007 however, I do remember the 2014 Version but I never saw a sequel As for the rise of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles I have seen a few episodes on Nick but even then, I never saw too much or the movie which I've yet to see and I have seen a few clips of the series from the 2000s and for mutant mayham, it's awesome, it's absolutely awesome. Overall, really nice evolution of our favorite ninja turtles.
Dang, I was hoping for those SDCC shorts, as a demonstration of how much Nick has put in, but they seem to be absent😢
Good on ya mate! 😀 Totally Tubular mondo to the max animation video supremo!
Thank you!!
With over 40 years of tmnt I feel like he skipped over some things
I spent an entire month making this 40+ minute video. These videos are almost always nowhere near comprehensive, especially when it comes to decades-old properties that have spanned literally thousands of publications and productions. I can only fit in so much information in one video. This video contains every major movie and TV production while also touching on the major comic publications.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder OK sorry I forget how much time and effort goes into this type of stuff which explains why everybody in Hollywood is striking for more money
This was very interesting, educational, and entertaining for me. Excellent! I've been a TMNT fan my whole life. My favorite TMNT series is the '87 series with the 2012 series a close second. I'm only just now watching the 2003 series and am enjoying it so far. My favorite TMNT movie is Secret Of The Ooze with Out Of The Shadows a close second. I enjoy all of the movies, though. I haven't seen any of Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles series after episode 1 nor its Netflix movie. I plan to see Mutant Mayhem soon.
Thanks for saying, glad you enjoyed it!!
Kid Danger: *wearing his big trucker pup* holy luna! 40 years! Holy luna! I was a baby colt in the 90's. I think i saw the turtles when I was a colt but I was watching tv in a family member's home. But, BUT, when Nickelodeon got the rights to the tmnt 2012, i was HOOKED on the ninja turtles! *has hearts in his eyes* oh my luna! Donnie's voice and gap tooth! My luna, too cute! *falls on the ground hard on his face and quickly gets up and wipes himself off with his hoof* my luna! I love the ninja turtles!
Been a huge turtles fan since day 1 when the comic was release back when I was born and ever since then Ive been loving each different iterations of each of the turtles since then. Also you didn't bring up all the TMNT shorts around the time the 2012 TMNT series was still showing around that time which was uploaded on YT as well at the video games much such as the new latest TMNT Shredder's revenge game and just recently after EVO they would appear in another crossover fighting game which is Street Fighter 6 as costumes in the Battle Hub.
Still no matter the continuity TMNT would continued on for later generations and with more to show in comic,movies,video games or whatever media it grows as time goes on. 🍕COWABUNGA🍕💙🐢🧡🐢💜🐢❤🐢
I love TMNT it's so amazing and interesting My favorite versions of the TMNT are 1)TMNT 2012, 2)TMNT 2003, 3)TMNT IDW COMICS, 4)TMNT 1987, with that order,
Seems to be a theme with this one: Every time an iteration shifts to a lighter tone, it bombs.
Reminds me of the early 90s Batman film iteration.
True, the one exception being for the original cartoon. That one ended going a bit grittier in its final seasons
I watched parts of the 2012 TMNT but I grew up with the 2003 TMNT and they have been my favorites ever since. The music, characters, and storylines are simply so vast and entertaining. It lends itself to full rewatches very well.
One ☝️ of the future Cartoon Evolution videos you can do was Garfield the Cat ok 👍
I love rise of the teenage ninja 🥷 turtles 🐢 2018
Epic
I love the 1987 TMNT cartoon series the most 👍🏻
Will you be doing any voice evolution vids for these guys?
I love the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise
I hope there are no spoilers for the movie just trailers
No spoilers for anything here
Leonardo (the version from the original Turtles Film) had a cameo in the TV movie Bernard and the Genie.
Dave Lee there is one piece of Ninja Turtles media that you forgot to mention which was actually the one pizza related episode of Teen Titans Go! Didn't know where else to put it.
That was a parody, not an official appearance. I don’t talk about parodies in these videos, otherwise we’d be here all day.
@@DaveLeeDownUnder I guess you're right, but still part of the TMNT x DC comic crossover. Of course in that series they were not referred to as the Ninja Turtles they were referred to as the Turtle Dudes.
TMNT has been one of those franchises that stays popular no matter how they change it.
other things like Little Mermaid, Velma, Ghostbusters 2016, Star Trek Discovery, Spiderman and Batman anger fans with a bad reboot but TMNT has always found fans regardless of changes.
Yeah,I actually enjoyed the Michael bay duology as a kid,and was quite shocked to learn people hated it,I can understand why,but I still enjoy the films.
@@marvelstarwarsfan8410 I liked those movies as well.
No, it’s the same as any other big franchise. The bay produced movies are hated much like the TASM films, the Snyder verse, and the Star Wars Prequels, yet all of these have fans. Even more so in the modern day, presumably because the kids who saw them have now grown up and have a more vocal opinion. Or in the Snyder verse’s case, because of edge lords
@@Albino_Basilisk know what people hate? Velma and Little Mermaid. Know what people don't hate? April
@@sasamichan I was mainly talking about you bringing up Spider-Man and Batman, you know ACTUAL franchises. Velma on her own is not a franchise, neither is the little mermaid.
I like super heroes from DC and Marvel and all, but Indie Boys TMNT and The Tick (especially since both spawned from my state) have been my favorite comic book heroes. Though both I discovered through the cartoons first. As for the TMNT, it's easier for me to say that Next Mutation and the music videos are the absolute nadir of TMNT and Secret of the Ooze is my least favorite of the movies for the reasons given here. I'm thoroughly enjoyed all four cartoon series to date, and if I had to at gunpoint pick a favorite of the bunch, I'd go with the 2012 series. There really isn't much to say that hasn't been said before. I'm on pins and needles for the upcoming cartoon series following the movie, and I'm most interested in how the other mutants will fare in the series.
I grew up watching the 87' Turtles show and LOVED IT! I had the toys, clothes and other stuff that came out during that Turtle Maina of the 90's. The live action 90's movies brought them to the next level of the characters too. I can't remember if I saw the original in theaters but I might have. I really can't remember. I know I saw the 2nd one in theaters. That one I really enjoyed but same as the 1st one too. I watched them EVERY Saturday Morning just to see what they were going to get into that episode. I never did have a crush on April (like a bunch of guys or woman) but she was what I thought a really cool woman character. I saw her almost as a sister to the guys even though they were younger then she is. The 2003 show I didn't watch. I remember seeing it and thinking oh hey look a new show but I was more like nah it's not my turtles. Now later on I got into watching them more. Especially after getting into the 2012 series on Nick. That's as far as I got with the show. Didn't watch Rise just cause I didn't care for how they swapped certain characters traits. But I'm ready to go see the new animated movie. I can't wait!!! Thanks for making this video Dave. You always out do yourself. Love it!
I love the 87 Turtles most of all
I have a suggestion for a future Disney one, Max Goof :)
coool
Legacy franchises are an interesting one to tackle. Especially those that reinvent themselves with each new series and have done so with a regular frequency in multiple media. Makes it hard to fail after so long as people can say if they don't like one they can check out the other adaptations. Kind of makes me wander what would have happened if Masters of the Universe and She-Ra had kept up the same frequency in multiple media. Although they look to be returning in more recent years with a well liked by most Netflix She-Ra not long ago and two MOTU series at the same time as each other with one aimed at adults and another kids. Something they may have taken from TMNT playbook with having the kid shows and comics at the same time as more wide audience movies and comics
There was also Ninja Turtles Magazine comic with 13 issues in the early 1990s. Also the Dreamwave comics with 7 issues based on the 2003 series.
Yes, there’s dozens of other Turtles mini-series one one-shots. I simply only had the time to touch on the core volumes and select side-series
@@DaveLeeDownUnder its amazing there's so many versions just like Turtles Forever show a dimensional slideshow of all book versions in the Technodrome.
I love TMNT 2003
Happy 40th Anniversary Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael and Michaelangelo 🥳💙🐢🥳💜🐢🥳❤️🐢🥳🧡🐢 COWABUMGA. Did you know Hasbro are releasing a Transformers named Party Wallop who transforms into the Turtle Van, I Love to see a Transformers X Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles comic crossover one day.
Between Batman vs. the TMNT, Shredder's Revenge and Mutant Mayhem, the last few years have been very good for the turtles.
I would argue that tmnt 2012 is nearly as dark as older versions, but there is so much more silly moments, so it is unbalanced
One more Turtles/Batman Crossover you didn't mention was Batman/TMNT Adventures which crossed over the 2012 Turtles with Batman TAS/TNBA
Hello!
2003 Shredder: oh, so there’s TMNT across the multiverse. I’ll just kill each and every-
Sees the rock play and the rap videos.
2003 Shredder: reality must be destroyed.
I still wish rise wasn't so massively overhated by both the network and the fans. It's one of my favorites and it's such a massive shame to see that it could only finish with 2 seasons and a movie