WHAT IF... The Celtics Fail?
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The Boston Celtics look like the best team in the NBA right now, but what happens to this team if they fail?
#celtics #nba #nbanews - Sport
Only acceptable outcome(besides chip), is losing to Nuggets in Finals
tbh i dont even think that’s acceptable its there season nd imma clippers fan but tha celtics need to win now
@@astkyrinah bro, it's acceptable, the Nuggets are the reigning champions with a 3-time MVP as their best player, gotta respect them
Some people are already picking the Nuggets to win the Finals against the Celtics
I suppose that it is the defense wins championships cliche. But I don't see how you can stop a team like Denver. And I don't see how a team like Boston can get by without a ring master. Just don't see where the shot creation comes from.
What the fu** dude no therez no reason 1 superstar 1 star 3 fringe all stars can't beat a team with 1 super star and 1 fringe all-star cmon if we lose we get rid of jaylen and his terrible contract if we win we run it back
Breaking up Js is a tired take
Agreed!
how’s it tired when they haven’t done shit
@@chickensofried I know it's really hard to match up with all the Knicks have accomplished, but Boston is pretty damn good. Breaking up the Js makes about as much sense as breaking up Bird and McHale, in the 80s. It'snot happening, and if it did, I'd honestly rather keep Jaylen Brown, than Tatum.
@@chickensofriedwhen have your knicks done shit?😂
it's the most likely outcome if the Celtics don't win a title in the next two seasons
There were no "real rumors" about trading Jaylen Brown for Durant or whatever right after a Finals appearance. That was an internet/ESPN driven thing for clicks and viewers during the offseason. Can we please stop believing everything we read on the internet?
When there is smoke, there's probably fire.
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They can get it done. The future of the off season is unclear, but this is the Celtic’s year to lose.
Nobody who has a brain doubts they can, the question is will they?
@@DarkLobster69they already are better than the team from last year and play like it so we have to see. But to be frank with u, I think they can get it done, just need jt to step it up
@@woo_shynen8805he better
people said that last year, and the year before, and the year before that lmao
People arguing in the comments is funny. A bunch of butt pfp bots and people dying to see the Celtics lose.
Brown just signed for 5 years max he ain’t going no where😂
yes nobody wants that HUGE CONTRACT
@@onlyfacts3178have you seen how he’s playing this year. Especially post ASB he’s playing amazing and has earned that contract
@@onlyfacts3178hopefully no one takes that shitty deal
@@onlyfacts3178Anthony Davis has most money a year at $62 million for next season
@@onlyfacts3178
I’d rather have him then Trae Young
I think we need to wait 2 more years before even starting to judge the team. Tatum is 26 , he will enter his prime next year. Jaylen just entered his prime. They both still learning maturing and getting better.
Yeah but the problem is they may not be able too keep everyone. With JBs contract starting, JT will be getting a max contract, they’re going to have to give KP and Jrue contracts. Salary cap won’t be enough
@@MarkwittaK the team can go over the cap for their own players, and ownership has said that they will pay them, so as long as the Celtics are consistently in the mix (Conference finals/finals) they will pay the core
U can’t replace what Jaylen brown brings to the team if the Cs trade him they will get worse trust me
Boston is so talented there is not a team in the league that can touch them. Hell the only team with the ability to defeat them is Denver. And if Boston were to lose the NBA Finals after a 60 plus win season I expect them to simply run it back.
They ran it back so many times. I think it’s championship or bust this season. If nuggets win, I see the start of a dynasty.
@@henonaga9879this Celtics team is different duh with Porzingis and jrue
They can’t simply run it back if they lose. With the new CBA and Browns massive contract kicking in they can’t afford this team unless someone makes some sacrifices or cut some players. It’s championship or bust for Boston, if they fail again with this roster they’ll have to blow it up.
My opinion on stuff like this is that it's possible to build a roster that guarantees a conference finals appearance. Beyond that, matchups and shooting variance takes over. Especially any team that makes the finals would be crazy to blow it up.
Now, Jalen's salary is pretty crazy, so trading him might be a necessity to keep the rest of the roster. Outside of that, there's no reason to trade him in they make the conference finals.
Answer: Funky is going to need a wellness check
I don't think there will be big changes if they don't win a championship. This team is too talented to just give up on, especially when everybody is under contract for at least the next season (except maybe Jrue or White, I'm not 100% sure).
I will keep Jaylen in my opinions and get a proven HC. Because they are too young and be on the team for the next 10 years. I am not breaking the duo up unfortunately
They can probably keep Tatum+brown+ one of the other three OR Tatum+the other three and in both cases they can still compete for championships even if they’re not the favorites anymore. Being a top 6 team every season is nothing to be afraid of.
Afunkydiabetic, Dom2k, and Bsolz will cry in the corner
This will be an all time moment.
Vouch @@cameroncampbell1638
This is like when the pistons blew it up after always being in the ECF and then never made it back
That’s the same conclusion I’m drawing here. The major concern is the money aspect of the team. You can’t pay Tatum and Brown both $300 million plus and still be competitive. It’s impossible
@@keithjenkins5617they can and will pay them u stupid to think they won’t plus they will keep their own guys it’s called the bird rights
Jokic & Murray gonna clock a lot of minites in the playoffs. They're going against some tough teams.
I have thought since last season, that if the Celtics don't make the NBA finals this year, Joe will be fired. I think Brad Stevens is sitting in his GM chair SHAKING his head when he sees the most talented roster in the league just focus so heavily on three point shooting. I think Ty Lue is finishing his deal with the Clippers, and I think the Celtics need to stop playing like the Warriors when their two best players are average NBA shooters from 3
Why doesn’t Stevens just do both at this point. Just continuing to bring in new coaches won’t make them any better than just keeping a consistent coach with a consistent style of play that the players don’t have to adjust to every year. Brad was a phenomenal coach and I’m not even a Celtics fan and he was and is like the youngest GM in the league so if they are gonna bring in another coach just let Brad do it you’ll have a great coach and guy that Tatum and Brown already know.
He wasn't actually a great coach at the NBA level. He can't deal with stars and ego to the level you want in the NBA. That's why the organization moved him to managing the team but not the players@@user-rr7bu9fe3k
True
Fax
Tatum dropped a game 7 record 51 POINTS ON SIXERS
If they fail try again next year… the warriors went 73-9 , anyone can lose at any time
Correction Denver and bucks won one title stop adding a s on the end
FACTS
Bucks won in 72 also I believe
Tatum's deal is not way down the road. He signs the biggest deal in history this offseason, and it kicks in the season after
Realistically, I think this is the best Boston will ever be. I don't see JT or JB taking another leap forward, and if you have those two guys and KP thats 130m alone. They either break up this team in the future, or just let some other guys walk to build around their core duo. Either way I don't see them having a better team in 2-3 years
Tatum is 25 he's going to take a step up go see if Kobe lebron Giannis embid jockic Jordan bird all got better after age 25 don't b a moron
I think unless something crazy happens, they run it back next year. They extend Jrue this offseason, more years for lower annual value. Maybe 4 years ~110M. I think White gets a new contract next offseason since an extension off his current deal doesnt make sense for him. This celtics team is in place for this season and next. Hauser and Horford will both be free agents after next season.
I don’t understand how their skill sets can be redundant, JB is a mid range type of player that hits the occasional three from time to time and can get hot from deep. JT is more of a three point type of player or should I say jump shooting. Regardless, they are two different types of players and offered two different types of things. And JB is more defensive focused
Before this video gets going I swear to god if this involves Trae Young coming to the Celtics I will die inside.
Trae is not good like at ALL
@@TheDON914- he’s talented as anyone in the league, just not athletically and genetically blessed unfortunately, definitely one of the top offensive players in the league.
I'd rather have pro-am P then Trae Young. At least he plays defence.
there's no scenario where that happens... hes under contract for 5 more years
I think Boston will still be the favorite out of the east for 3-4 years down the line. Their biggest opps are themselves honestly
Bro they aren’t trading Jaylen
For me the minimum is for the Celtics to get to at least game 6 of the NBA finals if not then I would possibly blow it up.
Bro your crazy holiday will stay at his age he want to play for a team that is a championship contender why he would go anywhere else like spurs to be what??yes if the salary cap wont increase yes maybe they do that but the way the celtics moves is base on the salary that will increase..the miami heat had more problem than the celtics just looking at there salary cap and players
U can tell a lot of these people haven’t watched or cared about the Celtics this year, keep the same disrespect and don’t call them a super team and locks to win when they do win this year
Literally everyone has d riding the Celtics what are you typing about 😂😂
How is that disrespect lol. Tatum has shown he can’t lead a team to a title multiple seasons. This guy is right
This guy thinks any form of criticism is trash talking. Also, people have been raving about the Celtics this year. They were literally making arguments for them to have 4 all stars. Your team is not an underdog man.
brother u can read this comment section and actually think that@@symeoncarter8144
@@1cvsrthe guy is 26 years old you dunce
It looks like the Celtics have a plan to push for a chip in 24 and 25 with this current group. After that, the cost will be prohibitive and they'll have to find younger and cheaper options. I don't agree with any idea to break up Tatum and Brown, but anybody else could be gone if they enter the 25 offseason without winning the Finals.
It really doesnt matter because everyone has been calling Boston failures just out of hate
Winning a chip revolves around luck also. Injuries, crazy performances, bad shots going in, good shots going out. Tatum is a player that can win a chip as the number 1 guy, as he proved he can be in the conf finals almost every year since his rookie season, and finals. There is no team more consistent than the celtics, and this year they are def the best team in the league. But - are they 100% winning because they are the best? No - and it won't prove anything, because the sample size of the playoffs is so short, unless they are really horrible, they can still lose to the bucks or nuggets or something - and they are still the best team in the league. Not always the best win, and thats why the game is good. The only reason you are difrentiating Giannis from Tatum is because Giannis had a crazy playoff run where everyone were injured. I'm not saying this to discredit him, but the point is - if Harden and Kyrie are healthy/Durant's foot doesn't step on that line, you will say - Giannis is not a.number 1 guy on a championship team, and that is simply rediculous
Tatum hasn’t proved he can win a chip as a #1 guy yet. You don’t get that label until you win
Ok - so you cant know for sure a guy can win unless he wins - that is a weird logic, because Giannis, steph, Jokic, Lebron, KD - all won somewhere in their career - why is past winning indicative that they can win again? Maybe they cannot? They are different player on a different team. The assumption that past winning is saying something about the player is pretty superstitious - the playoffs is just a small sample size and a lot can happen there - as I stated, Giannis would not have won anything if he wasn't extremely lucky, because his team was not the best team and nor was he the best player in the world - unless you believe there are some "clutch gene" or religious stuff like that - if you a top player serounded by top talent you can be a number 1 guy on a championship team. Lebron for example is probably not good enough to be the guy anymore, unless he has an incresible supporting cast, which he doesn't - that doesn't take away the past, just looking at the game today. Giannis has much lower chance at winning number 2 on his career than Tatum winning number 1 @@taj3618
@@animaroku it’s not weird logic. Most #1 guys lead their teams to multiple rings for example Lebron , Steph, Kobe, Duncan. Giannis lucked out with the injuries but there’s been injuries in the playoffs every year
My point is that winning a chip is luck based - so tatum can win or not, not based on his ability. Unless winning a chip grants you the badge that dismiss the luck factor, Tatum can be a #1 guy on championship team, without winning it this year - or maybe ever. Just like Harden could've been a #1 guy on a championship team, if he had some better luck. @talj3618
@@animaroku luck is a factor but it’s not the main factor. It’s not like the Hornets can get lucky and win a ring. How good a player is is the most important thing. You can say Tatum could potentially be #1 option but so far he hasn’t proven to be that
2:57 Steve Kerr won the most game to start his coaching career
Fuck all that we getting 18 this year
As a Celtics fan dont know what we do if we dont win.
Bring back the all Negative Takes and the glasses. You said how we were all feeling
Did you forget about Denver bro?
Who ?
The ads have killed this channel.
As a Celtics fan, the only failure that's acceptable with this group is losing to the Nuggets. Either that or a chip, or it's a total failure.
Ofc they will fail, because their goal is set too high, which is championship and nothing else, which this team is unlikely to get there. Yes Porzingis and Jrue are great additions, but do those two players solve the celtics main problem in big games? No they didn't, they actually have the same problem, which is live and die by the jumpshots, like Giannis needs a Middleton, Tatum and Brown needs a point guard to control the ball and decide when to drive and when to shoot, this player doesn't have to be a top player but a good "true point guard", a younger Kyle Lowry, or Tyus Jones would be better for them.
I just don't see how they can win against the nuggets, the mavs or the wolves without injury are far better challangers
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Nuggets clearly the best team in the NBA. When they are all healthy, how are you suppose to stop Jokic and Murray????
they always ignore this tho 😂😂
No1 can stop porzingis 40 ft from the rim
If the Celtics lose nothing with happen they will run it back. All their important players are under contract next year. Jrue Holliday has a player option but I expect him to stay even if he declines it. Championship caliber rosters don’t grow on trees. Celtics need to be happy with what they have, they can’t just blow things up after one failure with this roster, can they?
I'm not watching the video so not sure who you suggested but the hawks have literally noone wed want for JB
Are there any basketball channels that have the backbone to not take a check from a gambling app?
I saw another comment that said the same thing and wanted to reiterate
it’s not a what if, it’s a when. knicks in 6.
They arent gonna beat Denver
Tough
If they want to win bad enough they will figure out a way to.
denver gon mop the floor with them but nobody believe me 😂
If they lose, it means that, without a doubt, Tatum is fatally soft. If he can't lead the team to a Chip this year, he will never lead any team to one.
im no specialist in basketball, but this season i started to watch Celtics and JT sometimes during plays just look kinda dumb, i dunno how to explain what i mean, but its just looks like that to me
Yeah your right you no specialist cuz 3 1st team all NBA players are all great
@@mattw7623Except Tatum , He's right
Yeah let’s trade the guys that’s 27 and only gotten better every year. Get a new take…
He is averaging 29/6/3 the last ten games and his turnovers has gone WAY down this season. And he has a great chance to make the all-nba team.
Yep. Let's trade that guy.
Agree with most points. This our best year to win.
Ima just say it Jaylen Brown can be a #1 option, would love to see this fail and they trade him
Can they even trade him in this off-season? His supermax kicks in and it's the first year. Unless they changed that rule I don't think you can trade him until the following off-season.
Boston holds him back he will start game with twenty then they won't give him ball in second half
@@cortezstrickland4874lmfaoooooo no they don’t
@@sobanked-3734my bad lol
@@sobanked-3734thought I was gonna get a little drama started
Sadly, you gotta split up the Jays...its been 8-9 yrs
9 years ago was 2015 not 2017?
Multiple years of making at least the ECF. This would be a bad idea.
@@someguy8263- Are you sure about that?
Despite the ECF appearances (and 1 Finals appearance), they have only found new ways to beat themselves year after year in the playoffs.
Now, if they make it to the Finals, there’s no shame in losing to a team like the Nuggets.
However, if they shoot themselves in the foot again in a playoff series (or the Finals), then the Celtics FO might have to consider doing the unthinkable, & split up Brown & Tatum.
If they lose to the Nuggets in a competitive 7 game series, then definitely keep them together.
If they lose to the Nuggets in 5 or less (or miss the Finals again), expect the Celtics to shop Brown & or Tatum.
If you’re splitting them, what’s are you getting in return? I don’t believe that they’ll win, but I don’t see why splitting them up is the solution.
I don’t think there’s a team that wants jaylen brown’s $310 million contract
Praying to the basketball gods they fail
Basketball Gods reside in Massachussetts, the birthplace of Basketball
Keep praying bozo
The hate 😂
More like when they fail
Buddy first of all the Celtics are winning it this year so this video is useless
I would love nothing more than to see the Celtics never win the NBA championship in Tatum and Brown's career
Don't worry you wish will get ruined this year. Must b Minneapolis Lakers fan.
I believe you mean when the celtics fail. Those guys are not a clutch team at all which shoots loads of 3s who does not succeed unless those 3s are dropping
Rewatch games before commenting
@@Frank-nz1wr yes, you should rewatch nuggets x celtics.
They feel like that NCAA team that shoots a ton of threes and has all these future NBA games, but you JUST KNOW. That in the tournament one day the shots won't fall and they will lose. Its almost too predictable
@@blablablaa14 Exactly what I mean. If in a crucial playoff game their shots are not landing they are not beating a team like the Nuggets for example
“if they can’t make baskets in basketball they won’t beat the champions” sparkling analysis there chief
What do you wanna bet that this guy's a freakin' evilutionist. Why do I call him that? Because just as an evilutionist would do, he refuses to accept what the evidence is saying, even when it's right there in front of his face screaming. Case in point: Right off the bat he says that the Celtics are "...a borderline historically great team." Well I hate to burst his bubble but the Celtics are not a 'borderline'historically great team,' as he downplays it in this video. They ARE though THE best offence to EVER take to the floor in an NBA game. They are also 1st in several other offensive categories as well. So, in light of that - the Celtics ARE NOT JUST A 'BORDERLINE' HISTORICALLY GREAT TEAM - THEY ARE A HISTORICALLY GREAT TEAM, period.
We should’ve never traded for Jrue and ran a Malcolm Brogdon starting point guard with Robert Williams off the bench lineup tbh we’d be even better than we are now. Jrue is still great on defense but I feel like dwhite and Jaylen brown are carrying most of the load. The rotation would run similarly to what it is now but with more possibilities for facilitation plus we’d have much better depth
Denver will beat them, imo
They gotta blow it tf up
I think Celtics can win but will somehow choke
This had to be said, have trust issues with the C's since 2020
Tbf Hayward is the cause of that , an was a no show when needed the most .
They will come out of the east, but they wont beat the Nuggets.... no chance.
Tatum aint it. He good but he not quite there yet. And I honestly think he already reached his ceiling.
lol u stupid
Jason Tatum is great , top 10 ... but he is not clutch.. he is missing the clutch gene. dont know if he will ever get it. his last lost to the nugget he said: i didnt want to highjack the offence.. When you team need you you need to be able to highjack the offence .. make the defense fear you and then be able to open up the floor to the other guys. when a super star put pressure on the defense now they have to make a choise double or tripple team the super star which leave your teammate open.... Please Jason learn to highjack the offense so that you can unlock your teammates.
Who's got most points in any game 7 of playoffs . I'll give you a hint. Jason Tatum oh don't forget 45 vs Giannis in game 7 in Milwaukee that Tatum won for Celtics
@@mattw7623that sounds good but if that were entirely true then the Celtics would’ve been to more nba finals since 2017, but they haven’t .. so in 6 opportunities to make the nba finals he has once and failed to the other 5 times… so he is in fact NOT clutch … he has failed more at getting to the finals than getting there , and he has failed at winning the finals also … not clutch
@@him37404 How many rings did Giannis, Lebron, Embid, Curry, KD , Joker Jordan Kobe have at age 25? I'll give Another hint ZERO for all of them. So if Tatum making it to east finals as a rookie while scoring more points then any other player in NBA history in there 1st year in nba. (another record ) and losing in game 7 and making 2 other east finals and NBA finals at 23 makes him not clutch then there's never been a clutch player at 25 in NBA in last 40 years my friend.also Tatum has played in more playoff games then anyone in NBA in first 6 seasons. Yet another record and that doesn't come from losing games.
@@mattw762346 vs giannis and dropped a game 7 record 51 points so
No1 wants Atlanta hawks trash
Nha bulshit, run it back .... at least 2 time
Second
Since his contract talks I was conviced the hang up was them agree to Jaylen being traded at the end of the season if they didn’t win it all. He absolutely wants to be a number 1 option and I honestly think Trae Young for Jaylen Brown trade is something they are thinking about
If Brown is to leave , he should go to a team that's actually Relevant , like the bulls .
They will be lucky to get to the ecf
My 🍆> Milwaukee
lol they not beating the heat😂
They'll be just fine. The only place Jaylen is going is down Boylston in a duck boat!
If they fail jays are done
Boston should have won the 2022 championship. They had control and let it slip away. Boston has put all their eggs in one basket. If they lose the championship this year; they will consider this season a failure.
I dont see them beating the nuggets. Who cares if they are the first seed.
Denver cares and it will cost them a title
@@mattw7623what is boston about to do against denver
@@yea3702 we will find out if they both make it.
@@yea3702Denver not making the finals
They are all in this year. But, chip or not, I think JB will be out. JT need KP, Dwhite, (or even Jrue) more than JB. Financially, it would be hard to keep them and the jays.
If they win, they've proven the core, JB has a ring and surely getting paid. But they need to pay JT soon
Been sayin this for years but Tatum ain't that guy. Only chance they have is to lessen his role in the 4th quarter. Tell him to defend like a maniac & play decoy or something on O. Let the others shine on offense. If they keep goin to JT in crunch time, they ain't gonna win the chip
Trade Tutum for LaBron asap ...
Man Trae for Brown would work so good for both teams
More like trey and draft picks no way Boston would trade straight up Brown for Young
Brown is LITERALLY superior to trae in everyway , they'll be doing hawks a favor with that trade , lose lose situation .
What’s this if? They absolutely choke to either the Heat or Nuggets
If they fail, Mazzulla is gone. He's the weak link.
If they match up with the heat in the first round they’ll lose. Fortunately for them, heat will probably be the 7 seed. But I’d say it’s more likely than not they lose to the Knicks in the 2nd round.
They are at best a 6 deep team and that’s with an 35+ year old center. And their 2 superstars are notorious choke artists. I don’t believe they’ll ever get it done.
Bias Celtics fan here. Few Celtic fans are scared of the heat this year tbh, and the only fear I have is Denver.
@@zakking4983nobody is afraid of the Celtics come playoff time - thunder fan
Nah we would have beat the heat if Tatum didn’t get injured last year. We beat them the year before too! Tatum shows up in big moments too! Besides Devin booker he is the only young star who made it to the finals rn. So keep running ya mouth when we get this ring this year
@@YodaSmokesthe irony of you saying that as a thunder fan is so hilarious 🤣 because NOBODY and I mean NOBODY is scared of the thunder…people are taking about the lakers bouncing them in the first round 😅
Sweeping the Heat...u heard it here 1st
nobody wants BROWN contract...
they did it dirty and this is the it curse
lol no they didn’t they sent him to number 1 seed cavs to play with LeBron lol u delusional
The Celtics can dogn all 5 of Tatum, brown, porzingus, white and jrue of they wish
Let’s hope they do fail
If Philly meet them in 1st rd with healthy Embiid than... bye bye C's
Eliminating them in 1st round would be better for all Sixers fans then getting to the ECF I think :)
Celtics make Embiid their daddy every time they meet in the playoffs
how many times do we have to go through this lmao whats Embiids record vs the C’s in the playoffs again? when was the last time the Embiid sixers beat Boston in the playoffs? Embiid is Tatums son
what makes you think that the sixers have any sort of chance against the celtics?
Hopefully NONE of the other teams is DUMB enough to trade for Jalen Brown when the Time comes. History has shown several times that u actually piss yourself with Guys with huge contracts but only slightly above average skill sets. I mean: This dude cant dribble either with his left hand nor on the left side of the floor but earns like he is a Top 15.
Dude, just say you don't know what you're talking about. Brown drives and finishes left more consistently than his right. The stat is literally floating around right now. Yall making 1 bad game in 1 series cloud your judgments because yall wasn't saying any of this before the heat series. Just give it up already....
It’s not a matter of “if,” but rather “when.” JB and JT have proven to be chronic bed-wetters who can’t get the job done. This year (and presumably the rest of their careers) will be no different.
They will lose to the Clippers, if they reach the Finals.
The clippers aren’t getting a sniff of the finals.
Celtics not winning anything they not better than Denver
If they lose I say trade Tatum 4 Luka if you give Luka this team around him he’s winning 3 straight championships max