Could Russian Jets Shoot Down Air Force One Over Ukraine? (WarGames 120) | DCS
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- čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
- We simulate a ficticious US President Biden trip in Air Force One to Ukraine and ask whether Russian rogue forces could have intercepted them before they landed at Dniptro. US defend with F-22 Raptor and F-15EX, while Russia attacks with Su-57 Felon, Su-35 and Mig-31 and the legendary R-37M long range missile.
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0:00 Overview & Details
6:17 Predictions
7:00 Attempt 1 (Russia) Planning
10:39 Attempt 1 (Russia) FIGHT 10:39
27:22 Attempt 2 (USA) Planning
28:26 Attempt 2 (USA) FIGHT
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Since Biden is gone, do it with Kamala.
In reality airforce one wouldn’t stand a chance nor the f22 around as Russia has now deployed hypersonic missiles which travel at est mark 9 with an est firing range of 250 miles
Why don't you just take out their satellite's This modern day tower of babel-confusion also.God knows everything.Seems not many read God's word in King James Bible and Strongs concordance bible dictionary in Greek and Hebrew and Smiths Bible dictionary helps to answer many questions in King James Bible.Seen many things in the sky last couple years and I know some of you seen things also that shouldn't be a secret.Its all in King James Bible but many are in babel-confusion and don't read for themselves.
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At 26:44 I got excited. 10 seconds later I realized that it can always be worse 🤣👍
“I’m not a tactician” - never a truer word was spoken 😂
lol
You should do a follow-up version of the scenario, where government Russian Air forces are dispatched to stop the rogue general's attempt to shoot down Air Force 1. You could have Russians, versus Russians, and if you really wanted to throw a wrench in, the Americans would still be there and not know which Russians to shoot.
That would be so interesting!
The odds of shooting down Air Force One drops dramatically if Harrison Ford is president though.
Like the carrier scenarios, this situation is much more complex IRL. There are several Air Force One aircraft that operate as decoys flying on very different vectors, and each has a beastly ECM/ESM/countermeasures suite. Additionally, some F22/F35 would likely arrive in the airspace long before the main group enters the zone, ready to shoot any likely aggressors as soon as they’re wheels-up. Also: other military and civilian A/C in the area that have no idea what’s going on around them.
Agreed, AF1 is one of the most closely guarded secrets in the USAF. We probably know more about the F22 and the F35 than we will ever know about AF1. Honestly the DCS mod is only a Boeing 747 with the AF1 skin.
Really? I sincerely doubt there are any military/civilian a/c in the eastern Ukraine area other than combat patrols.
USA is not firing on Russian air craft taking off from russian bases in russian air space. This is a not a movie. They would absolutely not strike first unless they somehow got confirmed radio comms stating that the planes taking off from that airport were on their way to intercept and neutralize AF1. But IF they got confirmed intel that fighters were taking off from 500 miles ahead of AF1, it would do an immediate 180 and land at the nearest allied base, it would not continue flying. Then they would likely have a couple F-22 loiter at the border and turn back any jets trying to catch AF1.
Jeez that's an expensive operation! Can;t he just Zoom call??
And the moment they picked up an aircraft heading toward AF-1, it would turn around and fly the other way, not continue on to certain death. The only chance they would have is a pop up attack by the Felon ,otherwise they'd never get within 300 miles.
Kinda shocked that you didn't include any F-35s seeing as that seems to be the most popular plane these days. The only problem I have is that Air Force 1 has major defense packages that are top secret but this one did nothing to evade or use it's defense suite
DCS don't simulate F-35 features very well.
Is the f35 model in mfs2020 good? You don’t have any weapons but the model looks ok.
F-22 is the dogfighter
Agreed in regard to "AF1's" defensive systems - having a massive amount of electrical generation capability allows them to power some fantastic jammers!
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He arrived on a train at night so Russian satellites couldn't track him.
Lol they actually asked Russia for permission and to not bomb kiev .
Fuck Russia
@@zakiboug6685*Kyiv*
@@zakiboug6685 And no, there was no request for permission. It was a simple notification of what was happening. Quite the difference.
@@Spicy_Italian_Sausage true there is a diff but it was asking for permission they are not stupid to risk the life of biden
cap was the literal definition of "stay on target, stay on target" also, raptors should have just gone straight for awacs
Almost there...
Knowing how their missile mods and DCS works, you're absolutely right : A Raptor Super Cruise at altitude straight to the known area of Red awacs with a full load of AMRAAM.
while i dont disagree with this tactic, I also think the russian awacs would be further away and protected by their sam sites also. Also not sure but im sure there would be some ground EWR sites in chrimea that could help data link if needed.
Honestly, Cap's response to the missile being 'in the basket' kinda made my day. Thank you folks as always for the satisfyingly enjoyable content!
Having the clouds definitely makes it look good, depending on the match or simulation set ups, you could use them as cover etc. Either way, looks good 👍
Concealment*
@@msytdc1577 same thing
I want to see a 1:1 scale simulation of Biden falling down the stairs 😅😂😅…..
I have seen a simulation with the annoying orange falling up the stairs with TP stuck to his shoe and his pants came half way off! 😂
@@paulvamos7319 Sorry can't picture that. For some reason I can *PERFECTLY* picture biden stumbling like dementia patient though, because it's real life unfortunately.
These are my favorite types of simulations, seems like something out of a Tom Clancy novel. Keep it up!
My favorite types of simulations are the ones which showcase how "western technology" is invincible. The only disappointment I have is when I discover that certain variables were changed to front load the results.
@@rationalbasis2172Well, they can't model new tech or our enemy might just use it for an invasion!😅
I love the PVP battles. The unpredictability of human players raises the suspense to levels that scripted computer opponents can't match.
No lag
Air Force Ones electronic counter measures are classified, but I do know it has a radar jamming EW suite, flare dispenser and laser countermeasures.
Thank you, I was going to say something quite similar about the countermeasures...also seeing Air Force one go down rub me the wrong way just saying...lol!!!
Also, note that the Ukrainians have the Dnipro SAM system, which was named after Dnipro. It was a medium range SAM that was supposed to be fitted on the volodymyr velykyi class frigate, or as it might be possible that Dnipro SAM might be dispatched on land.
thx
SuperCap did make a note that Air Force One in real life might have an EW suite which, given the important passengers would almost certainly be the case if not from a nearby AWACS or even the escorts. Also I am suspicious how good those ax heads performed here given the real life performance in the war seems to be...less than Russian claims to put it kindly. Still better to overestimate than underestimate though.
If you think the Axeheads are too strong now you should have seen them before! GR nerfed the hell out of them, and here several Axeheads designed to hit large but manouvering military aircraft like bombers and fighter/bombers missed a huge, lumbering 747!
Wouldn't Air Force One have the best jamming capabilities?
I have an "interesting" story about Air Force One, from back when they were still flying a VC-137....
@@timbaskett6299 do tell..
The R-37M's fired in the Russo-Ukraine war are usually fired at or near maximum ranges against maneuvering low-flying targets (Fighters/CAS bombers etc.). With those circumstances in mind, the PK should be fairly low. It is not like other missiles would fair any better to be quite honest, including the AIM-120D and AIM-260.
At the start of this video, I said right off the bat that the key to victory was shooting the archers (the Mig-31s) before they shot their arrows (the Axeheads)
True...
You got the plane wrong! He flew in a C-32 specially configured version of the Boeing 757-200 commercial. And they took off from Joint Base Andrews at 4:15 a.m eastern. 7h 45m to Ramstein Air Base for refueling, switched off its transponder and took the hour flight to Rzeszow, Poland. Boarded a train for 10-hour trip to Kyiv.
I'm guessing DCS doesn't have a C-32.
Air Force one is not completely defenseless. Don’t get me wrong I’m not a Biden lover but AF1 isn’t just a duck and 2 F-22s and 2 F-15s for a Pres? Really? Lol!
LMMFAO They didn;t call him AMTRAK Joe for nothing ya know , he must have pulled this one out of the real old play book.
Sumthin, sumthin, sumthin Joe Biden used to take the AMTRAK to work and has logged more than 2 million miles by rail
The clouds are awesome! I'd recommend varying the degree every once in a while if possible; it adds more depth to an already 'wonderful to watch' series.
Came here to say much of the same thing!
I love the semi-realistic comms from the US team and the Russian team is talking almost casually about what is happening, very realistic
I flew on AWACS in Iraq to monitor the Syrian war many years ago. The Russians most definitely are casual in their radio comms.
Great scenario! Here's an idea for the CHina vs Taiwan scenario (when you do a repeat): Hear me out....B52 Missile Trucks! In addition to the C130s and their anti-ship missiles, use the B52s as anti-air missile trucks and load them up with long range anti-air missiles! Lots of BOOM - BOOM for SuperCap 😎
sounds like Dale Brown's EB-52 Megafortress
Someone has already considered doing that with upengined B-1’s - They would fire from in back of several F-35’s which would guide the missiles towards the targets.
That's a good idea, B-1's and even C-17's / C5's can serve as missile trucks also. But the supply of LR missiles is limited, and China has missiles too, they would launch extensive ballistic and cruise missile attacks against US and allied bases
Air Force 1 has EW and missile defense. And the F15 EX would have EPAWSS as well.
It also has an escape pod, I've seen the movie 🤫
The R-37 actually came down so steep it avoided the RWR of F-15 and 747. They never knew what hit them.
I think the American pilots need to take the day off.
Absolutely love these vids yall are awesome!!
Cap, your service to the people of the United States will not be forgotten. You are now a national hero.
Biden is Dead…So no metals….only ice cream
I quite enjoyed the clouds, it’s nice to see some variety. Clear sky missions, stormy battles and scattered cloud engagements - all nice to look at and add a tactical element to things whether it’s clear one day or cloudy the next!
yo the subcribers from Dnipro are here =) nice content dude keep goin`
Airforce One as a tanker...... isn't that the real role of the RAF 'VIP' transport that Johnson was so fond of flying around in? So perhaps our version of AF1 'can' refuel escorts.
CAP! Suggestion! Include Ukrainian Air Force fighters on scramble notice! That would be cool to see if they’d have an impact or not.
RIP Joey B!! Like Icarus, you flew too close to the sun...or rather in this case the MIG-31...
Good to hear Cap and Damp... haven't tuned in for a few months.
just found your channell and boy do i love this i hav not stopped watchin
Great video! Plus, the clouds look nice. Leave them in if it's not too much of an issue for the server.
Watching these videos is a highlight in my day. Thanks, Cap
They're entertaining for sure!
that was one of the most exciting ones yet - congrats!
Love these scenerio videos! However, I think it would better if you turned off the scoreboard and tried to limit the cuts to the enemies (although I know you mostly do that for our viewing pleasure so I'm not exactly sure how to optimize that). It would just make these missions more tense and exciting imho. Thanks for these great videos though Cap and GR!
I would like you to retry something like this but don't actually tell the defenders they are going to be intercepted. Give them a false briefing for something where they think it's just a "normal flight" and have an ambush or something like that.
And how about an unknown flight path for AF1 and escorts.
Interesting idea. Only problem is that I will always know as I make the mission?
"You know the stuff and the things?" Thanks Cap and Boy's!
Thanks Ryan
Hi Cap. Another good video.
Finally! A subject choice which confirms what I thought your channel was all along!
Really interesting fight. On a vaguely-related question (ie regarding stealth), have you tested whether flying in convertible configuration affects the radar visibility of stealth/low-vis planes?
Air force 1 is no typical 747 it's got weapons radars counter measures it's super sonic when it needs to be and very maneuverable for a brick
I have flown on B747 many times and on a flight between London and Singapore, the speed reached briefly Mach 0.99 for a few minutes. There are unconfirmed reports that an empty Cargo B747 reached Mach 1.25 in 1991. Not surprised that Air Force One could be Supersonic.
I bet he fell up the stairs leading to the bar when he heard Cap had spiked him
lol
Well done!
I am a flying chaff dispenser, made me spit coffee.
Anywhere Air Force one goes its covered by US fighters… also there are naval asssets in position while crossing large bodies of water!
Not in the Black Sea
@@carlousmagus5387 The George Bush CSG has moved closer due to the quakes in Turkey...
Cap a suggestion for a 2.0 of this - can you put whatever AI aircraft with the best jammer (whatever it is, doesnt need to be realistic) in formation with AF1 to somewhat simulate the ECM suite the real AF1 has? I wonder if the results would be different if the enemy had to get even a marginal amount closer before they could get a good lock and fire.
Air force one taking a one hit from an axe head is surprising. No counter measures are apparently modeled.
CAP install a stop light on your tail section to keep Sock from climbing up your backside!
yup
Clouds looking great. Makes the beginning look much more interesting
You don't want to try and take out Mr. Magoo. You'll only end up hurting yourself.
"Pelican laugh, Pelican laugh!" Hilarious....or Peleton?
Your first major issue is thinking AF1 is a regular 747 as illustrated in this scene. no moving actions for its suite of def measures. it is not easy and can jam missiles but also planes from seeking it regularly. your 2nd issue was thinking AF1 could not see you before you can see it and lock on to it. what is so funny is in the scene you guys have the raptors flying with biden and then moving out. in reality the f-22 and or f-35 would be out before biden to sweep the area. no airplanes will be allowed in the sky. lastly the plane with the jet would take the missile hit or drop its flares to mess up the missile. we saw none of that as it probably is hard to program that into a simulation. there is a point in 2 regulars staying with the plane as those two jets would be able to push out flares and if need be. use their plane to save AF1. duty above life is absent in this video.
The scenarios that this channel runs never really follow realistic or sensible tactics. Doing a large fighter sweep plus EW assets would make this boring and never allow the attackers anywhere close. They are having fun and nobody should take these "tests" as reflecting anything close to real performance.
Please let them know the complete specs of the EW and countermeasures suite on AF1 so they can model them. We will wait for that. F-22 may do a sweep ahead of time for sure, but they are not going to enter russian airspace and will not strike first. If they see fighters taking off from russian airbases on a vector towards AF1's flight path, they would radio to AF1 and it would immediately turn around. Such a fun video to watch some planes flying a few hundred miles and turning around to fly back.
Your last mention about duty above life was 100% in this video. Unfortunately because this was an entertainment video and AF1 continued into hostile airspace, the hostiles had launched 4 missiles at AF1. Damp was able to sacrifice himself but 4 missiles against 3 planes will not end well for the 3 planes. That is what happened.
Speaking as an American and typing this during the overview the only thing I'm going to say is I hope they can.🤫
Traitor.
@@yuuzyerbrejn9603 Yes the Traitor was in the plane dropping off cash to help other countries instead of his own. Good job pointing out the literal definition of the man on the plain.
@@TheRyno525 You didn't have to come on this forum with this particular right wing crap. Please. Go to your safe space with your mango mussolini and don't talk about America, the land you hate. Again. Leave it for another forum. Please.
I think Bidens a cuck as much as anybody but I don't want the Russians taking out our president.
…hope you like your new president 😂
love the clouds. and requesting more of this type of scenario!
Wouldn't it make sense for F-22s to be patrolling around the destination a bit before Airforce one enters the AO? That would allow them to respond to incoming threats before AF1 was in range.
DCS shouldn’t let you visually see the planes that are invisible on radar. Like if you pick up AF1 but nothing else, the other planes should be invisible, until the are actually in visual range
I remember your attempt at Putin's plane but it seemed like his plance was missile invulnerable. You had to get within guns range for the kill. What are the chances that the Russian version of Air Force One is more missile resistant that Air Force One itself?
They were able to get it with a missile by sneaking in.
@@humansvd3269 What was ridiculous, to think that Russia just got half a dozen radars and you can just fly by as you like...
The americans would probably have a forward guard with Raptors and probably would put the Awacs closer to extend the range toward the ''in a hurry'-guys area seeing it is a warzone. Also Airfoce One probably would be more defensive even to the point of turning back if needed.
You siply wouldn't fly there in the first place besied Russia not attacking westen politicians, not even Zelensky, as they could have done all the time if they wanted to with them shaking hands with Zelensky in Ukraine day after day.
Ok, this is awesome
in a situation like this would it be possible to shoot down the incoming missiles with your own? especially with something as big as an axehead you'd think they could get a good radar lock on it.
'I'm not a tactician.' kinda realistic. I am -- and a little bit of Talia Shire and what Adrian told Rocky... 'You can't win'!
Honestly, AF1 would go evasive and use chaff & flares, as well as radar & IR jamming.
Fly keeps getting better as time goes on
22 minutes in, Three missiles out...... And America is cheering you on
lmao...🤣
The problem is the protected plane does not make any attempt to maneuver. Likely a real air force one would turn around if attacked.
Yeah Air Force One would have egressed the area at the first sign of enemy activity... not just fly straight ahead into certain death.
If you had watched the video you could hear several calls of "President is maneuvering". It's a large slow plane. Not a fighter jet. It isn't gonna kick on burners and do a split s. Idk what you're expecting.
We most likely had satellites monitoring every airport within range of the flight path of AF1. If they saw any fighters scrambling, they would have turned AF1 around immediately. The escort planes are more of a show of force, not intended to be needed to repel an attack. In this scenario, russia would have needed to sneak some mobile SAMs into allied territory and waited till AF1 flew over.
Well I did set him to manouver if in danger, it was his choice.
@@Power5I'd love to see the faces of the people in the room when the Russian diplomat explains why they want to put some Russian controlled SAM's in their country's borders. "So comrade we want to shoot down the American president from your country......"
Loved the new cloud deck, detail is great. AF-1 would of just turned around if MIG-31's came nose hot toward them. There's no chance they'd ever get close enough to take shot in anything but the Felon.
And AF-1 wouldn't have even had to turn on it's neutron plasma engines to get away.
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Very entertaining!😄
I’d say the vertical manoeuvrability of the axe head might need a small buff but the horizontal maneuverability is bang on
We notified the Russians of his trip. It actually amazes me that even though are relations are so bad with Russia there are certain precautions both sides make. Another is in Syria. When we want to bomb an area where Russians are or they want the same for Americans, each side gets warned to get their people out! It’s actually pretty amazing. ❤️❤️❤️
Aside from that time when the Russians said that there were no Russian troops attacking a US SF base and the SF called in air strikes on Wagner and Syrian troops.
@@pogo1140 totally agree! Must of been a political move by the Russians.
@@pogo1140 i think back then , they tried to hide wagner identities or they simply didnt care much about them as their numbers very low back then.
Yup. And the US notified Turkey of US forces locations in Syria but Turkey shot at them with artillery anyways. Russians on the other hand mostly used mercenaries and other 3rd parties to shoot at US forces but Russian military did smash into US forces with their trucks on purpose.
NATO “ally” Turkey was more of a threat to US forces than the Russian military in Syria.
My favourite part was when cap completely ignored Sock. Because Sock is anmoying.
Love the Foxhounds with Axeheads. They're like modern day kamikazes
Damn. This was intense
Just the company of US fighter jets would create a very interesting situation. All else said, i suspect real Airforce One has some tricks up it's sleeve. The ingame version certainly has less bits and pieces on the top.
Including a real pilot that can react to things. That would be interesting to build in, if it were possible with a 747. Maybe a replacement? Also a 747 is very heavy but it also has some power, so it would be interesting to see what it could or would do in such a situation.
Not suggesting that movie thing where it literally evades a missile. But it wouldn't just go on in a straight line. And it certainly has some sort of countermeasures.
Pretty sure this video puts you on a list, Mr. Reapers.
And it's NOT Santa's Naughty List.
They've probably been on a list
Already been pretty much cancelled on YT, not much to lose now.
We still have our fun, and they can't take that from us.
Is there any way to model Airforce 1's rwr and ew suites? Ive heard Airforce 1 has some pretty special jamming and spoofing EW equipment packed onto it.....but no 1 what exactly its equipped with cause its classified top secret.
You want them to model something that only above top secret clearance members of the USA know about?
Would be interesting to rerun the scenario with the move from Poland to Ukraine done on a train and if it could be intercepted. Also a variant where the distance from the front line was similar to the distance from front line to Kyiv. Would need to adjust the locations or maps to be able to get the separation.
Yah, they could do what generation could most effectively intercept the Biden train but with Russian planes which they don't seem to do at all
Russia has shown it can pin point destroy anythign it wants anywhere in Ukraine up to the most western borders, so, yes.
And no, they don't do that with bombers, why should they?
apparently Air Force One has countermeasures like jammers, flares and chaff
thing is if air force one gets shot down, ALL us ICBMs would launch, land and sub based
HOLD YOUR FIRE. We don't want Kamala as prez.
I don't get why planes are invisible to other planes in DCS while low to the ground but in the Iraq War 1 1991 American F-16s were getting missile locks on planes that hadn't even taken off yet
The beauty of most runways is that they're flat. I get what you mean but it's a balance of software settings to filter, and radar power to pick everything up. There's a sweet spot where it works well. But if you don't have it in that sweet spot stuff will get filtered by the software. The closer you are to the terrain the more likely it is that software will filter you out as part of the terrain. In the case of stronger radars, it has the potential to work against the software by overwhelming it
YES!!! Rumor has it that if he hadn't already soiled his diaper 15 mins before the missile hit he would have soiled himself just before the missile hit.
Biden arrives, “Big Guy is here!” Then falls down the stairs 🤣😆😂…...
They would have a tanker along for the flight. Or waiting somewhere around.
The real danger is the boarding ladder…🤔🤣
Wouldn't AFO have its own electronic countermeasures, chaff ect?
What a beautiful scenario
Best episode ever.
I'm a little confused that the S300s for Ukraine seemed to do absolutely nothing to the planes that were flying in their ring. Also, if Air Force One was ever for some reason going to do something so dangerous, it would be protected by many more planes than 3. As others have also pointed out, there would be a decoy plane and the real Air Force One has countermeasures and jamming.
It’s apparent that he has a personal problem with him. He usually sets up scenarios better than this and is often much more sensitive to other people than this. “Biden, eat a fat one!” sort of stands out.
@@mostlyanchors168 maybe? I wouldn't ascribe that to him unless I had more information. He usually just likes watching things blow up. Also his side was winning there since he was playing the Russians. He does get really into the battle.
I was shot down by a Ukranian PMU-2 missile.
@@grimreapers interesting. I think I did not catch that. It just seemed like you were able to get quite far before anything came after you. But that may just be because you were going very fast.
In this mission when Poosh and myself were holding at our spot, we did get some S-300 alarms going off that missiles were fired on us. Sadly the tac-view wasnt available to show this.
Logically the F-22's would be cruising as far forward and out as possible. the logic being they will be encountering any hostiles well outside the bandit's launch envelope thus preventing them from even launching against AF-1. The US does not do close escort unless they want to be seen (photo op or parade)
F-22 would most likely NOT fly into Russia though. In the off chance they are detected, well that would be very bad day for Biden's eloquent speaking ability to come up with a lie to explain the reason we had Raptors in Russian airspace.
Building my pc tomorrow I would LOVE to join you guys and learn this game!!!
Cheers Capt!
Since you're doing Ukraine stuff and have an airliner (sort of), COULD an airliner flying at 37.000ft dodge a BUK if it knew it was being fired on?
Maybe. Large commercial jets are more maneuverable than they typically fly but most pilots don’t have training experience flying at the edges of their flight capabilities. Buk doesn’t have the best missiles but should be able to hit a big obvious target even if evasive. Aggressive maneuvers might be successful but I wouldn’t bet on it.
Almost certainly not because DCS loves missiles and a civilian jumbo-jet (like the one they skinned as AF1 in this scenario) doesn't have advanced countermeasures and defenses.
oof that might be a bit to macabre guys...
Keep the clouds and maybe try a different time of day? Lighting is so nice in DCS now...
Having the counter on that tells you when SAMs that don’t have fire warnings ruins the sim.
Hello GR, I want to petition a “war games” scenario for you. Here it is:
4 to 6 Chinese fighter aircraft threaten to shoot down a Korean Air 747 flight, over the Bering Sea Straight, containing a former MSS agent defecting to the U.S. if it doesn’t turn back around and land. In response to the crisis, 2 American fighters are scrambled to intercept the Chinese fighters and neutralize (or deter) them before they shoot down the civilian airliner.
I would like to see all of you act out this scenario with all human pilots. The mission of the people Role-playing as Chinese to prevent the 747 from landing in the US by any means necessary (however don't immediately shoot it down). The objective of the 2 people role-playing as American pilots is to stop the Chinese shooting down the airliner by any means possible. I think the match up should be between the F-22 and the J-16 or Su-35
Thank you and have a nice day
The secret service watching this video 👀🤨
*IRL:* Air Force One does have an EW Suite, Chaff & Flares and a In Flight Re-Fueling Probe.....
Cornpop is in the yard...🤣