Ana is a very In-Character fanfiction portrayal of Bella Swan, while Christian is so upsettingly out of character for Edward that it makes me want to eat my own face. We all read and saw how he fucked her the one (1) time (only after they married, as that was his condition), and refused to do so again because she had bruises, so Edward would very much NOT be into BDSM in any way shape or form. Edward would also not hear that Bella was a virgin and immediately go "I'm going to fix that". If I was to read Master of the Universe as a Twilight fan reading a Twilight fanfiction, I would DNF it because Edward is so upsettingly out of character. The controlling, possessive, abusive parts of Christian are pretty in-character for Edward, but everything sexual that happens in these novels is so out of character for Bella and Edward. Bella was ready to die by dick in the source material and Edward was going to literally off himself for a couple of bruises. If someone were to rewrite Fifty Shades of Grey with Ana as the sexually driven one, THAT would be more in character. Sex-wise, the characters should be reversed, but otherwise, their personalities are on-point.
@@loganator5001 Honestly yeah, the idea of a young virginal college student dragging a dominate somewhat emotionally abusive billionaire into an S&M lifestyle through sheer force of will, is actually really cute.
I totally get Ana being a virgin, but saying she’s never been drunk and also drinks her tea with only one dip of the tea bag? Like, girlie, are you a pilgrim?
@Ma-nm2fl mormonism is a religion, it's kinda restrictive : no sex before marriage, no alcohol nor coffee or tobacco, and some other stuff like you must give some of your income to your church and dress in a certain way. I feel like they keep to themselves a lot (no hate on anyone who is into this stuff, very much not my thing though lol)
Fr I remember seeing a bunch of people say "as a brit this is a crime" and I remember thinking "girl as an american I know that we dunk the teabags at least four times, even when we dumped that shit in the harbor we let it steep"
Girly there’s no way you skipped over the part in the second book when they’re in his childhood bedroom Christian admits HE CHOOSES A SUBMISSIVE THAT RESEMBLE HIS MOTHER
By the way… Christian calls it a submissive but he would have so less trouble if he used the actual word he wants: a slave. In BDSM there are submissives and there are slaves. He wants a slave.
he got no damned clue what he wants, has done less research into bdsm then a mostly sex repulsed aroace woman not into that kink . . . these books are an absolut insult and misrepresentation of the community!!!
@@jules-sf5us yeah, it follows a trend of things people create that are ridiculed in dominant culture (think black art, queer art, bdsm... etc.) and over time dominant culture starts to see that those things as being able to make money, but they still carry the shame/elitist attitudes that makes them still hate the thing in question. so what they do instead is gentrify and steal the parts they like while still saying the origins where it came from is still bad. its very odd.
The worst part to me is that many people think that is the problem in their relationship/the story. But it would be okay if Ana wanted to be his slave. Just as it is perfectly fine that she is not into that kind of stuff, but then they simply shouldn't be together. They should just each find someone else who is into the same stuff as they are, respectively, instead of trying to force one another to be something they are not and do stuff they don't feel comfortable with
I’m a lesbian and I liked it. But most cause it was fucked up lol. Also the plot is insane. It’s like watching Star Wars but the twisted romance version 🤣🤣
Was there no one else from the school newspaper who could’ve filled in? No? It had to be her roommate with no interview experience who could have seriously damaged the school’s reputation?
As someone who was on the journalism track, I call bullshit. Any undergrad would jump at taking that opportunity. They take any opportunity to fill their portfolio. As a journalist, Kate would know Anna doesn't know how to interview and that there's a certain way to do it!
Right? And based on the "lore," there should be no shortage of college girls in the department who would want to interview the "sexy and elusive" Christian Grey. In fact, my head canon is that one of them smacked Kate when they found out she sent Ana of all people for the interview.
the butterfly affect of nine eleven causing gerard way to make my chemical romance, to stephanie mayer getting a wet dream about gerard as a vampire and making twilight, to this monstrosity is so funny to me
When I read the tampon part, I immediately shut the book and DNF’ed the entire thing. Didn’t read not one single sentence after that. And I think my brain began to heal and regain brain cells after that 😂😂
@@massomouse1556I read the first chapter and DNF'd it. I knew this book had a bad reputation and I had no interest in continuing the story. I mostly enjoyed the movie, though. Dakota Johnson is a gift. I wish they rewrote it as a romcom about some girl dating a dude who's into BDSM. I'm sure a lot of humor can come from that.
I read that scene and made such a dramatic face, then closed out the app I was using to illegally read the book, and started searching the internet to see if anyone was talking about the weird tampon scene. I found nothing and had to try to process all day. I still have not fully processed it lol
have i ever read the book? no have i ever seen the movie? no am i still gonna watch a 1 hour vid essay abt it? HELL YES. your commentary is so entertaining lmao
This is such a small detail but it bugs me SO MUCH. During the part where he's buying rope and shit he buys zip ties for assumedly kink reasons but that's like INCREDIBLY dangerous, because zip ties can and will cut off circulation to whatever part its tied to. Like its just straight up negligent and if this was a better book it could have been used as a foreshadowing that he doesn't really give a shit about his partners.
@@kathleenwoods8416corsetry and kink are 10000000% different. Zip ties in corsetry are covered by fabric and anchored, and also have hooks/eyes and laces that can can be manually loosened at any time. In kink, if you use zip ties as wrist restraints for example, the way zip ties work is that they can tighten but cannot loosen again. So if the dom pulls the end of the tie or the sub shifts their weight enough, the tie could get painfully and dangerously tight without an easy way to release without cutting the tie. And when cutting them free you can easily cut or hurt the sub in the process of wiggling a cutting implement under the too-tight zip tie. BDSM /=/ risky or stupid.
I’m so fucking here for this right now. I love nothing more than a lesbian ripping apart fanfiction. Sincerely, a lesbian who loves ripping apart fanfiction 😘
Just a lil comment about the birth control/doctor part: all doctors ask shit like that. If you go to change your birth control and you’re sexually active they will ask if you’re pregnant and usually give you a test. It’s because if you are, the new birth control could cause fetal abnormalities or miscarriage and the doctor doesn’t wanna be on the hook for that.
Yup, agree 100%, some people stop contraceptives because they have a misconception that condoms are a sufficient alternative. Doctors have a responsibility to discuss this with them instead of assuming they know the risks of stopping contraceptives.
See but the odd thing is that when I started birth control in my teens and wasn't sexually active, they still made me take a pregnancy test??? Even though I told them that I hadn't had sex??
@@olivegs5367THIS! You are not even allowed to get the birth control shot if you don’t take a pregnancy test every time you need it EVEN IF YOU ARE SEXUALLY INACTIVE. Pet peeve of mine
@@yougauurti understand the annoyance and possibly embarrassment of this, but especially if they’re dealing with teens, doctors are gunna know that some people (not everyone, but enough they would have to be sure) would adamantly deny sexual activity even if they were having it for whatever reason. the pregnancy test is just a precaution and shouldn’t cause you to feel like they’re looking at you the wrong way or anything :)
"...and Ana is really scared, because last time he had to go somewhere for a meeting, he went missing for *FIVE PAGES.* " Why did I laugh so hard at this sentence??! 😭
Fifty Shades is to BDSM as Applebee's is to a fancy restaurant. It's not at all but there are definitely too many people who believe that it is. It's like someone heard the idea of BDSM in a dream and wrote it down hours after they woke up.
it really tells that the author probably read some fanfic with bdsm and then put it in her story without any personal experience or research. I remember the first time I read a story where it was very evident that the author practiced bdsm in thier personal life. It was pretty short and didn’t involve that much sex until the end but the dynamics felt so real and intimate. It made me understand why people were into being dominated like that.
50 shades is the first movie reason I can think of, that gave too many people the idea that BDSM is about harsh punishment, no loving, no consent, no norhing, and I hate it so much...I heard such a dumbass line in a movie once where virginal good girl tm was with her partner and there was a lady who's into BDSM, and then good girl said word for word, "I don't understand why people would not choose kindness..." to the lady that into BDSM...i hate it here...
@@bluewolf6323 if the movie you're talking about is Gabriel's Inferno then boy do I have some news! That movie is based off a book which is also Twilight fanfiction.
How the heck do people find Christian Grey sexy he just gets so angry all the time and you’re simply not sure how he’s going to react? That’d be a terrifying trait to have in a partner!
nothing wrong with this! the discipline required is pretty impressive. i think her point is anna doesn't seem like someone who has a strong sense of discipline especially since she apparently has no strong feelings about drinking alcohol so it seems pretty far fetched that she wouldn't have gotten drunk at some point
I don't think it's always about discipline... I've never even had any alcohol in my life because the smell alone makes me want to jump out of my skin and run for the hills. Then again, I'm autistic and there are so many things which give me the sensory icks so I might not be a good reference point. But yeah, I'm 23, been out of uni for a year at this point and have never drunk, nor do I ever intend to. People are different, you know
@@pluviophile-bookworm Same here! Two years out of college (even at a school with USA party culture) and have never had a sip. Just have no interest. I recently found out I’m likely autistic, and disinterest in alcohol actually seems like a common thing associated with autism
Same. My friend went on and on and on,like it was the most amazing trilogy ever written,so naturally I read the books,(yeah all three, probably waiting for the amazing part to happe,I guess..lol) and I was just ASTOUNDED that she thought this was anything at all, except for cringey,creepy Twilight fanfiction.. And she also read the Twilight Series first and never put it together that FSOG was Twilight fanfiction..when most people can put that together in the first chapter..don't mean to sound insulting to her,but I JUST DON'T GET IT..WHY WAS THIS SO BLOODY POPULAR 😮?
I remember being a kid in a small, very Catholic Ohio town and seeing every mom reading these books by the pool… and I just want to go back and be like “hey you all okay? Are your marriages alright? Did you find better smut?”
The fact aside that these books are so uncomfortable and portray unhealthy relationships in such a way, etc, I think it's cool Catholic women get to have an "outlet" in things like this, do you know what I mean?
This is so funny to me because I my small Ohio Catholic Church one of the priests gave an immensely unhinged rant about 50 shades during the first communion service while all the little kids were up at the front. Did not go over well
Humiliating that I not only live in Washington not far from that college but have friends who attend that exact campus. Why are bad books attracted to Washington??
I find it extra funny learning about the plot of the books and how the actors playing Anna and Christian did not like each other and how they had very little on screen chemistry. Kinda tracks once you see how they act in the books 😂
@bumbabees Americans have the whole frat culture with all those parties. Even in my country we have bars near the campus. You'd be surprised how hard people go when they get a taste of freedom after hs....
I have basically every reason known to man. I'm religious, have meds that alcohol interfere with, and finally alcohol fucking stinks and drunk people are insufferable
why do so many smutty books seem to lack clear and consise consent before sex?? Idk if this is just a good amount of popular books in the booktube sphere that do this or if its a common trend because the ONLY book reveiw ive seen where the book actually has clear consent between both parties and not a single boundary is broken is the fucken Persephone exhibitionist retelling 😭 i know its fantasy and these books are good for exploring fantasy safely but damn bruh i-
but sometimes communication going off without a hitch is part of the fantasy 😂 like the point of fantasies is that it's your dream situation without the complications of Real People, and having a fantasy-person into exactly what I'm into who knows how to communicate that clearly is glorious and sometimes the whole point
its not a smutty book problem, it is an all books ever problem, that consent is a very distant thougt and only relevant when its not the love interesst . . . .
@@emilyreames7748 communication going off without a hitch and no communication ever are very different things though. you do not always have to ask every step of the way, if you are communicationg well and all, but ana and gray fail to communicate all of the time and it never gets aknowlaged, like her not liking him hitting her and him not even thinking it might upset her and all . . .
speaking as someone who writes fanfiction, this is why I always write consent into my work. my most recent fic involved stuff like anal play, so naturally i made sure my characters were on the same page and ensuring that the person receiving was safe and and maintaining a continuous and enthusiastic "yes". and i made sure i included aftercare. and someone left a super nice comment saying they loved how i managed to make it hot while still incorporating explicit consent.
It's like when I forgot my character was drunk during a scene but if instead of just having them wait to actually do anything the next day when he's sober, I just kept going and instead doubled down on him bring drunk even though he was only tipsy (and the alcohol was a plot device to get him to tell his boyfriend that he does like him but he's worried that him doing anything will creep his bf out so that's why he always goes "haha cool" in response to sexual shit. Crazy! Communication!)
same! i've been of legal drinking age (in my country) for 4-5 years now without ever getting drunk or partying. just not my jam and i don't see any reason for me to start now 😅
Tbh as someone who does drink every so often (I also don’t like the taste, but I don’t mind getting drunk once in a while) I thought the way she was talking about getting drunk in college was kinda needlessly rude and judgmental. Not everyone wants to be getting drunk when they wanna focus on their studies, not everyone wants to be getting drunk in general. It’s all about personal tastes and what a person likes doing. Whether they choose to ingest alcohol or not shouldn’t really matter when judging someone’s character 😂
@@madokami03ya I used to be a sober drinker and many of my friends dont drink. Also Ana not drinking fits with her character (seems nervous and anxious and lots of people with anxiety dont like to lose control) But ya ive been dealing with so many stupid comments since going sober... idk why people act like it is so weird
@@katiemutschler6040 oh yeah Ana definitely seems like the type of shy and meek character who wouldn’t be an active drinker, and probably wouldn’t even do it without someone else suggesting they go to the bar in the first place. I 1000% believe she went all the way through high school and college without getting drunk, it just seems like her
LOL--I remember seeing a cartoon of someone reading the first book--constant "What? Wait, that's not how that works?" with hilarious faces. Then the character finishes the book "Best ending ever!" (because they were broken up). Then someone sets the other two books on the table and character curses.
Ok, so Grey is absolutely an abusive megalomaniac and NEEDS to be told off, but I'm just CACKLING at how Anna's constantly responding to him like "Just because I'm your sub doesn't mean you can tell me what to do!" Like girl, I don't think you, Grey, or the author have any clue what "submissive" means🤣
See thats the catstrophic part: SHE NEVER SIGNS THE SUB CONTRACT. shes never like. ACTUALLY this dudes sub which makes the entire plot even more insane
Okay my brain can only hold exactly 3 coherent thoughts at once and sharing is caring: 1. I'm so glad I found your channel. 2. It would be so fun to have like a discord channel so we could all talk about bad books in real time. 3. I DNF'ed the first book after like 40 pages but the movies are so camp. I rewatch them every single year. Don't worry, therapy is going very well!
@@g1rlygurlI made my sophomore year roommate (who is a lesbian) watch them with me in the same empty lab, using the projectors. If my tuition is gonna be 75K per year, I might as well
I never knew Christian had trauma like that, I only knew surface level what the concept of the story was. You could've written a psychologically deep and complex book about a child (boy!) getting sexually abused and groomed, and about how it affected him and how this manifests in his weird sexual desires as an adult etc. It could have been such an interesting piece of media reflecting on trauma and sexual abuse, especially in men, but no, all the world got was that.... whatever this is.
Reading 50 shades as an aroace woman feels like studying straight people under a microscope. Like do they actually think this kind of behavior towards women is attractive somehow, or is do they enjoy it in the same way people enjoy horror movies? I also think it's interesting how this predatory behavior is romanticized in a lot of straight romance (like 50 shades obviously, but also november 9th and frankly anything else by colleen hoover lol), while most LGBTQ+ media I've seen doesn't do that. My gut assumption is that toxic straight relationships are romanticized in media because of how they're normalized in real life (read: misogyny), but idk for sure.
This same portrayal can be seen in LGBTQ+ media and irl relationships, but it’s more prevalent in how the media portrays straight relationships because that’s the popular archetype archetype. Typically in LGBTQ+ media the relationship will be seen as basically the opposite of how straight relationships are portrayed because that’s the archetype. While these aspects can be found irl, it’s more so that the media has a pre-determined archetype for whatever they’re trying to portray, so that’s what they default to. It also doesn’t help that people have strong reactions to these archetypes which further incentivize the media to keep portraying these archetypes. Though, it’s actually pretty interesting how how certain archetypes we see in the media has been portrayed in books as far back as the Roman time period. So these archetypes have been normalized for a long period of time.
I'm going to ramble a bit 😂: I read these books when i was going through puberty because i used to be a Wattpad girlie who enjoyed a littlr smut. I was a horny teenager 😂. I read the books because the story was sold as this heavily sexy shmex story so i got relly excited. When i proceeded to read the books, not only was it a boring and just weird, but it wasn't as sexy as they promised. The jarring ups and downs of this story, especially the last book were the weirdest thing I've ever experienced as a young reader. I think i lost brain cells from reading these books. 😭 I feel like it could have been formatted and written better, but Ms EL James was the author so i expect nothing less from her 😂. But the series has made me so picky, even in my consumption of smut, because it showed me that not all smut and plots are made equally or healthy. This is not touching on how the story and the relationship dynamic is unhealthy as hell. But then again the source material was also questionable. Just across the board it was not the best idea for kid me to read such, but it did educate me more on the importance of consent and led me to learning more about it so its not all bad. To anyone who read this far, thank you for entertaining my ramble 😅
Ikr! I read the book when I was 13 and even then I thought that Christian's controlling behavior was annoying and far from romantic, and the whole sex stuff was not "sexy" at all
I am that person that finished university without ever being drunk. Alcohol is yucky and you should stop pretending it's pleasant to consume /jocking, obv, but I really really dislike the taste Edit: christian grey is like literally helicopter partner 💀💀💀
binge watching your entire channel and girl im OBSESSED. you're so fun to listen to and from one sapphic to another THANK YOU for raising the question we're all too afraid to ask: are the straights okay?
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl A statistic that I'm SURE isn't affected by selection bias in any way. And the other statistics must be accurate as well, because there's NO WAY gay men would under-report abuse due to societal stigmas. Plus, straight (and bisexual) women NEVER have trouble distinguishing what qualifies as abuse, because they DEFINITELY haven't been conditioned to accept abusive tendencies as normal, acceptable and healthy. I think you really nailed it with this one, man. Completely unbiased and objective stats.
@@yyrael that is cute but The issue of domestic violence among lesbian couples gets underreported due to the gender roles that women are expected to play in society; violence perpetrated by women may be ignored due to beliefs that the male social construction itself is a primary source of violence. The CDC has stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators. Similarly, 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 89.5% reporting at least one perpetrator being male. In contrast, 35% of heterosexual women reported having been victim of intimate partner violence, with 98.7% of them reporting male perpetrators exclusively. We aren't talking about some subtle abuse here we are talking about obvious ones Social service agencies are often unwilling to assist victims of domestic violence perpetrated by women. And Victims of domestic violence in lesbian relationships are less likely to have the case prosecuted within existing legal systems. All because they share your beliefs that it's impossible for women to be abusive with each other
@@yyraeli would like to add also that the statistic doesn’t ask about relationships, it’s about sexuality! basically, lesbians have faced of the highest rates of domestic violence next to bisexual women which makes sense when you consider misogyny and the fetishization of wlw relationships by men. not denying that abuse happens in wlw relationships bcs of course it does, but in the statistics it is never specified what the gender of the abusive partner is. i bet that the statistics are so high bcs of past male partners for lesbians.
As an aro/ace person i find so much fun in your content ❤ I can not relate to any of the romance books and when i read them, then for the weird content hidden within And u bring that out so good! Thank you so much!
I went through four years of college without ever being drunk so its possible lol, but its pretty icky how her first tipsy experience was taken advantage of like that...
i've watched so many youtubers talk about this series but not in the same level of detail. on one hand finding out that grey (and el james by extension) has a foot fetish is very funny, but on the other hand i wish i could reach into my brain and scrub that knowledge away.
@@cloudriilejion4589 in general, fanfic erotica writers will write about what they think is hot. also, usually porn writers completely ignore the feet unless they have a kink about or related to feet. ergo, 50 shades has foot sucking = el james has a foot fetish
The part about how Ana had never been drunk before really isn't super outlandish. Some people just aren't interested in drinking :) But otherwise, this book makes my eyes and ears bleed, so, good video!
"There's no way you get through 4 years of college without getting drunk." Me, who was in college for 5 years and doesn't like to drink because even being buzzed feels weird: 😳
I have conflicted feelings on the pregnancy trope. On one hand, the inclusion of pregnancy in a ‘steamy-type’ romance book gives out a positive message that you can still be desired even while carrying (I’m guessing a lot of women have that specific insecurity, which is why it’s a trope in the first place). On the other hand, it (unintentionally) reinforces the idea that having a healthy relationship and having a kid go hand-in-hand. And a lot of us know firsthand that that is NOT true. There’s also the issue that authors tend to skip over the option of aborting, but that’s really more of a marketing decision. I imagine a lot of editors push to leave that discussion out, as it would alienate some audience and hurt sales.
You forgot about the disturbing detail that he only took submissives who had long brown hair because they looked like his biological mother................. EW
So far the realistic part of this whole thing is the doctor being in the face about birth control. Having been yelled at by doctors and nurses for birth control when I’m there for something completely unrelated is exactly my medical experience (at least Anna was visiting the doctor for BC).
But very unrealistic that an OB/GYN does house calls or any doctor for that matter. Except for a hospice doctor, my mom's hospice doctor came to see my mom 1 or 2 times a month with nurses coming 3 times a week
My fondest memory of the fifty shades triology is that even as a teenager I didn't want to pay any money for this and found all books for free as a pdf.
Thank you for the video!!! Brought so many forgotten memories back to the surface!!! I remember reading them during a summer holiday, on a laptop (as pdf files), as a YOUNG TEENAGER…. Something stuck to me throughout all these years was the very end of the last novel, during the last moment of "intimacy": Anastasia saying who the baby LIKED what was Christian doing…….. can’t help but cringe to this piece of writing (sorry for the grammar mistakes, English isn’t my first language)
About the surviving ten years at University and never getting drunk thing, i think its fully possible. Some people dont like alcohol, some people don't like the idea of it and can go their entire lives without a drop
The implication in the hardware store scene im assuming is he’s using these items for his BDSM fungeon ( at least from how I see it) and that’s SO STUPID cause hard ware store rope is the last thing you’d want for bondage stuff. I’m not even part of the community and I’m even like “ yeah that’d feel really icky on my skin no thanks “ lol.
was ur channel like selectively bred for my entertainment jfc immediate subscribe r u kidding me i basically only watch 1-2 hr recap videos pls continue to do gods work
Kinda weird that the singular canonically non-white person tries to drunkenly assault the main character. Maybe some racism there. Also I will never understand the appeal of the glamorization of virginity and acting like it’s sexy to never explore your own pleasure and only liking what your partner gives you permission to/encourages you to like. Like dude, you’re not a canvas for a man to project his fantasies onto, you’re your own person and you deserve to find out what you like without it being about other people. If I’m remembering correctly, they even made a point to be like “she’s never even TOUCHED herself before!1!!” Which is so 🤢🤢 as if the idea of Ana getting to know her own body would make her ‘less pure’ in some way. That in particular has to be one of my least favorite tropes of all time, and unfortunately it’s very prevalent in older erotica. There is something about this series that feels generations old, like there is an outdatedness to it, yk? And I guess if that’s your thing that’s fine, I certainly had a whale of a time reading it for my own reasons, but the old timey-ness to the plot and characters still perplexes me to this day
I love your videos so much! I just discovered your channel and i am binging all your content rn, it's amazing😌😌(and your voice and storytelling is so comforting!!)
I loved the way that this felt just like a friend ranting about some crazy book and getting to listen and discuss the crazy shit about it. I feel like youre an awesome friend :)
One thing I hate about this book is that it's whole boom is around it being kinky, but literally there is almost no acceptable kink? There's no actual proper practice of bdsm and half of the time we watch our main character get coerced/abused/be highly uncomfortable,, like the whole point is this dude wanting a 'submissive' (slave would be better) and since day one ana just doesn't want to, so like what is the point of this???
I remember when my ex boyfriend made me watch this with him and said ‘oh we should try that’ at some of the sex scenes and kept looking at me for approval 😭
I’m so here for this new trend of books-turned-video-essays that’s taking over CZcams. It’s like getting to put on an old favorite show in the background while I do work 🙌🏻
I read Twilight and then refused to read any of the other books. When 50shades came out and someone said that it was basically Twilight rewritten, I knew that it was going to be bad. BUT after much deliberating, I decided it was not good to say something was bad if you haven’t tried it. I could not get past the first 100 pages. It horrified me! But your video was really entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to your rant. 😊
I’ve never been drunk and I’m almost 30 so it’s totally possible. Not everyone is into that. But Ana is like a toddler in her level of experience in EVERYTHING. Has to do an interview? Doesn’t research. Wants tea? One dunk of the bag. Curiosity in her own sexuality? She could never. Drinking? Never had a sip. She’s just… she’s too much
this comment is literally living in my brain because I have no idea what it means 😭 I might just be stupid but can you pls explain I won’t know peace until I understand
@@ainsleesbookclub I’m glad you don’t know, actually. ‘Anna’ here should be ‘Ana’, for Anastasia, which might make it clearer. ‘Ana’ is short for ‘anorexia’ and ‘Mia’ for ‘bulimia’, slang terms used on pro-anorexia websites and forums. Given the emphasis on Christian’s controlling of Ana’s food, it’s possibly not coincidental.
I'm almost 28 and have never been drunk. I went to university, didn't want to drink, and so I didn't. Ana is for sure based on a character that is the epitome of purity culture, but can we please stop acting like not drinking alcohol is the weirdest thing in the world???
Okay but every weird stupid unrealistic thing Ana does is so easily explained by the fact that she is, in fact, Isabella Swan.
Ana is a very In-Character fanfiction portrayal of Bella Swan, while Christian is so upsettingly out of character for Edward that it makes me want to eat my own face. We all read and saw how he fucked her the one (1) time (only after they married, as that was his condition), and refused to do so again because she had bruises, so Edward would very much NOT be into BDSM in any way shape or form. Edward would also not hear that Bella was a virgin and immediately go "I'm going to fix that". If I was to read Master of the Universe as a Twilight fan reading a Twilight fanfiction, I would DNF it because Edward is so upsettingly out of character.
The controlling, possessive, abusive parts of Christian are pretty in-character for Edward, but everything sexual that happens in these novels is so out of character for Bella and Edward.
Bella was ready to die by dick in the source material and Edward was going to literally off himself for a couple of bruises.
If someone were to rewrite Fifty Shades of Grey with Ana as the sexually driven one, THAT would be more in character.
Sex-wise, the characters should be reversed, but otherwise, their personalities are on-point.
@@loganator5001you know, i never expected the 50shades take of Ana should have been the freak, but you're right and i absolutely hate it lol
@@loganator5001 Honestly yeah, the idea of a young virginal college student dragging a dominate somewhat emotionally abusive billionaire into an S&M lifestyle through sheer force of will, is actually really cute.
Her name is isabella?
@@fatimacastro8354 Yeah. Fifty SHades was originally a Twilight fanfiction. Ana was originally Bella Swan. Bella whose full name is Isabella.
if she thinks ONE dunk of a twinnings teabag is enough, idk how the dude thought she’d be very into bdsm💀
one dunk of ANY teabag is not enough i am going feral about this oh my goodness
Clearly anyone with such odd behaviour is a freak in many ways 😂
FACTS 😂😂😂😂😂
"I like my tea with no flavor" "oh fs then you must LOVE flavor here"
I’m sorry but this is absolutely the funniest thing I’ve ever read
I’m a kinkster and an avid tea enthusiast and it tracks
I totally get Ana being a virgin, but saying she’s never been drunk and also drinks her tea with only one dip of the tea bag? Like, girlie, are you a pilgrim?
No, she's a mormon.
Close, a mormon
(This is a joke)
@@guggelguggel7491 whats a mormon? I went to Google but I didnt understand a word
@Ma-nm2fl mormonism is a religion, it's kinda restrictive : no sex before marriage, no alcohol nor coffee or tobacco, and some other stuff like you must give some of your income to your church and dress in a certain way. I feel like they keep to themselves a lot (no hate on anyone who is into this stuff, very much not my thing though lol)
I'm not Mormon or Muslim but I went through 4 year of uni without drinking. First time getting drunk was 2 years after college.
one dunk of a teabag in hot water is a CRIME genuinely wtf that's disgusting
Plus Twinings is really weak to start with. I can get like 3 cups from a Liptons teabag, and only 1 from Twinings.
I’m loving the tea discourse these are absolutely my most favourite comments ever
Agreed that ain't tea that's flavorless water, which is such an amazing feat by itself
Fr I remember seeing a bunch of people say "as a brit this is a crime" and I remember thinking "girl as an american I know that we dunk the teabags at least four times, even when we dumped that shit in the harbor we let it steep"
Basically drinking hot water
Girly there’s no way you skipped over the part in the second book when they’re in his childhood bedroom Christian admits HE CHOOSES A SUBMISSIVE THAT RESEMBLE HIS MOTHER
There were parts she talked about only as shown in the movies when the book context was important and other parts she just completely ignored 😢
🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢
That was so EWWWWW.
Helluva Freudian slip 😭😭
@@denisse21420it’s a goofy ass summary of 50 shades, you cannot be this picky babe
By the way… Christian calls it a submissive but he would have so less trouble if he used the actual word he wants: a slave.
In BDSM there are submissives and there are slaves. He wants a slave.
this ^ also i kinda noticed that this book kinda casts kink in a really bad light
he got no damned clue what he wants, has done less research into bdsm then a mostly sex repulsed aroace woman not into that kink . . . these books are an absolut insult and misrepresentation of the community!!!
@@jules-sf5us yeah, it follows a trend of things people create that are ridiculed in dominant culture (think black art, queer art, bdsm... etc.) and over time dominant culture starts to see that those things as being able to make money, but they still carry the shame/elitist attitudes that makes them still hate the thing in question. so what they do instead is gentrify and steal the parts they like while still saying the origins where it came from is still bad. its very odd.
@@jamesrawlings46Which is probably why most entry level kink stories advertised for mass-market consumption are so blandly terrible.
The worst part to me is that many people think that is the problem in their relationship/the story. But it would be okay if Ana wanted to be his slave. Just as it is perfectly fine that she is not into that kind of stuff, but then they simply shouldn't be together. They should just each find someone else who is into the same stuff as they are, respectively, instead of trying to force one another to be something they are not and do stuff they don't feel comfortable with
Consuming Fifty Shades as a lesbian is the epitome of "are straight women okay??" tbh
Even as a bi enby its the same experience so im right there with ya 🏳️⚧️
As a straight woman I'm clinging to the hope that there's a silent majority of us that is just as confused and put off by this sh*t as me 😭
I’m a lesbian and I liked it. But most cause it was fucked up lol. Also the plot is insane. It’s like watching Star Wars but the twisted romance version 🤣🤣
As a lesbian on the aroace spectrum, this whole thing was wild (seriously, why are they moving so fast)
i’m bi with a preference for men and i can confirm that most mainstream romance books written by women are UNHINGED
Was there no one else from the school newspaper who could’ve filled in? No? It had to be her roommate with no interview experience who could have seriously damaged the school’s reputation?
wait you’re so right I never thought of that
I had the same question. Who on earth would do that? And if so, I would at least make sure to brief her properly
As someone who was on the journalism track, I call bullshit. Any undergrad would jump at taking that opportunity. They take any opportunity to fill their portfolio. As a journalist, Kate would know Anna doesn't know how to interview and that there's a certain way to do it!
Right? And based on the "lore," there should be no shortage of college girls in the department who would want to interview the "sexy and elusive" Christian Grey. In fact, my head canon is that one of them smacked Kate when they found out she sent Ana of all people for the interview.
It’s the same energy as when the 2 characters go to a hotel and there’s only 1 room available and have to share a bed 😂
the butterfly affect of nine eleven causing gerard way to make my chemical romance, to stephanie mayer getting a wet dream about gerard as a vampire and making twilight, to this monstrosity is so funny to me
When I read the tampon part, I immediately shut the book and DNF’ed the entire thing. Didn’t read not one single sentence after that. And I think my brain began to heal and regain brain cells after that 😂😂
Clearly I don’t have those same self-preservation instincts 😭
lol I DNF'd in 27 pages because of Ana's internal monologue.
@@massomouse1556I read the first chapter and DNF'd it. I knew this book had a bad reputation and I had no interest in continuing the story.
I mostly enjoyed the movie, though. Dakota Johnson is a gift. I wish they rewrote it as a romcom about some girl dating a dude who's into BDSM. I'm sure a lot of humor can come from that.
I read that scene and made such a dramatic face, then closed out the app I was using to illegally read the book, and started searching the internet to see if anyone was talking about the weird tampon scene. I found nothing and had to try to process all day. I still have not fully processed it lol
@@santaclara6112 Ho does one remove a tampon SENSUALLY? *confused and frightened* lol
saw “fifty shades of gray” in the title and almost scrolled away, but then i saw “lesbian” and clicked immediately
Same
same 2
That's exactly what I did LOL
Like, what a good title!
same
LITTRALY ME
have i ever read the book? no
have i ever seen the movie? no
am i still gonna watch a 1 hour vid essay abt it? HELL YES.
your commentary is so entertaining lmao
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Same
The movie is the most horror movie passing on as a romantic film ever and I laugh everytime...
@@bluewolf6323 LDGSJHDKA LMAO
@@jiru331 omg selam 🫡🇹🇷
This is such a small detail but it bugs me SO MUCH. During the part where he's buying rope and shit he buys zip ties for assumedly kink reasons but that's like INCREDIBLY dangerous, because zip ties can and will cut off circulation to whatever part its tied to. Like its just straight up negligent and if this was a better book it could have been used as a foreshadowing that he doesn't really give a shit about his partners.
I want read that better book! Also, I didn't know that specifically, but considering the use of larger zip ties in corsetry its not too weird.
YES
@@kathleenwoods8416corsetry and kink are 10000000% different. Zip ties in corsetry are covered by fabric and anchored, and also have hooks/eyes and laces that can can be manually loosened at any time. In kink, if you use zip ties as wrist restraints for example, the way zip ties work is that they can tighten but cannot loosen again. So if the dom pulls the end of the tie or the sub shifts their weight enough, the tie could get painfully and dangerously tight without an easy way to release without cutting the tie. And when cutting them free you can easily cut or hurt the sub in the process of wiggling a cutting implement under the too-tight zip tie.
BDSM /=/ risky or stupid.
I’m so fucking here for this right now. I love nothing more than a lesbian ripping apart fanfiction. Sincerely, a lesbian who loves ripping apart fanfiction 😘
Woooo let's go lesbians!!
- another lesbian who loves ripping apart fanfictions 💖💖
@@82licious This is our happy place😊
i am a lesbian who loves ripping apart fanfiction, however i am also a lesbian who appreciates good fanfiction
We should make a club
@@Summer-jy1my real
Just a lil comment about the birth control/doctor part: all doctors ask shit like that. If you go to change your birth control and you’re sexually active they will ask if you’re pregnant and usually give you a test. It’s because if you are, the new birth control could cause fetal abnormalities or miscarriage and the doctor doesn’t wanna be on the hook for that.
Yup, agree 100%, some people stop contraceptives because they have a misconception that condoms are a sufficient alternative. Doctors have a responsibility to discuss this with them instead of assuming they know the risks of stopping contraceptives.
See but the odd thing is that when I started birth control in my teens and wasn't sexually active, they still made me take a pregnancy test??? Even though I told them that I hadn't had sex??
@@olivegs5367 sex is stigmatized so teenagers often lie about it. That’s generally why they test everyone across the board.
@@olivegs5367THIS! You are not even allowed to get the birth control shot if you don’t take a pregnancy test every time you need it EVEN IF YOU ARE SEXUALLY INACTIVE. Pet peeve of mine
@@yougauurti understand the annoyance and possibly embarrassment of this, but especially if they’re dealing with teens, doctors are gunna know that some people (not everyone, but enough they would have to be sure) would adamantly deny sexual activity even if they were having it for whatever reason. the pregnancy test is just a precaution and shouldn’t cause you to feel like they’re looking at you the wrong way or anything :)
"...and Ana is really scared, because last time he had to go somewhere for a meeting, he went missing for *FIVE PAGES.* " Why did I laugh so hard at this sentence??! 😭
Fifty Shades is to BDSM as Applebee's is to a fancy restaurant.
It's not at all but there are definitely too many people who believe that it is.
It's like someone heard the idea of BDSM in a dream and wrote it down hours after they woke up.
it really tells that the author probably read some fanfic with bdsm and then put it in her story without any personal experience or research. I remember the first time I read a story where it was very evident that the author practiced bdsm in thier personal life. It was pretty short and didn’t involve that much sex until the end but the dynamics felt so real and intimate. It made me understand why people were into being dominated like that.
50 shades is the first movie reason I can think of, that gave too many people the idea that BDSM is about harsh punishment, no loving, no consent, no norhing, and I hate it so much...I heard such a dumbass line in a movie once where virginal good girl tm was with her partner and there was a lady who's into BDSM, and then good girl said word for word, "I don't understand why people would not choose kindness..." to the lady that into BDSM...i hate it here...
@@bluewolf6323 if the movie you're talking about is Gabriel's Inferno then boy do I have some news! That movie is based off a book which is also Twilight fanfiction.
I love how she sees someone literally buying a serial killer kit and she's like "whhheeewww, how hot, amazing!!" Girl, you need HELP.
How the heck do people find Christian Grey sexy he just gets so angry all the time and you’re simply not sure how he’s going to react? That’d be a terrifying trait to have in a partner!
Plus he has weird feelings towards his mother
I love how casual this all sounds. Like the way you're reading, your comments, it's got a very home-y feel to it.
yes!!! it feels like chatting with a friend
Exactly.@@angelsnaiilz
I went through university without a single drop of alcohol 😂😂
Same, well I'm in my last year but I don't drink
nothing wrong with this! the discipline required is pretty impressive. i think her point is anna doesn't seem like someone who has a strong sense of discipline especially since she apparently has no strong feelings about drinking alcohol so it seems pretty far fetched that she wouldn't have gotten drunk at some point
Same same
I don't think it's always about discipline... I've never even had any alcohol in my life because the smell alone makes me want to jump out of my skin and run for the hills. Then again, I'm autistic and there are so many things which give me the sensory icks so I might not be a good reference point. But yeah, I'm 23, been out of uni for a year at this point and have never drunk, nor do I ever intend to. People are different, you know
@@pluviophile-bookworm Same here! Two years out of college (even at a school with USA party culture) and have never had a sip. Just have no interest. I recently found out I’m likely autistic, and disinterest in alcohol actually seems like a common thing associated with autism
Having to be talked into marriage by a shitty therapist is probably a sign you should NOT marry someone...
As a straight woman, I genuinely wanna know who actually liked this trilogy
Same. My friend went on and on and on,like it was the most amazing trilogy ever written,so naturally I read the books,(yeah all three, probably waiting for the amazing part to happe,I guess..lol) and I was just ASTOUNDED that she thought this was anything at all, except for cringey,creepy Twilight fanfiction..
And she also read the Twilight Series first and never put it together that FSOG was Twilight fanfiction..when most people can put that together in the first chapter..don't mean to sound insulting to her,but I JUST DON'T GET IT..WHY WAS THIS SO BLOODY POPULAR 😮?
Not me for one
Lonely soccer moms who haven’t had an active bedroom in 13 years
my mother in her late 40's liked it at the time when it was popular lol
How did she not have her own computer? In college?
W pfp
The author wrote a whole bunch of the thing on her Blackberry, apparently. That may give you some perspective into her relationship with technology.
and didnt she major in english? i really find it hard to believe that in 4 years she didnt stash away enough for even a shitty $150 laptop
RIGHT???
I remember being a kid in a small, very Catholic Ohio town and seeing every mom reading these books by the pool… and I just want to go back and be like “hey you all okay? Are your marriages alright? Did you find better smut?”
The fact aside that these books are so uncomfortable and portray unhealthy relationships in such a way, etc, I think it's cool Catholic women get to have an "outlet" in things like this, do you know what I mean?
This is so funny to me because I my small Ohio Catholic Church one of the priests gave an immensely unhinged rant about 50 shades during the first communion service while all the little kids were up at the front. Did not go over well
The most unrealistic thing is that Ana got through college without owning a computer
Humiliating that I not only live in Washington not far from that college but have friends who attend that exact campus. Why are bad books attracted to Washington??
smth about your great state makes authors go feral for writing terrible books 🫶✨🥰
wish fulfillment, moody atmosphere, perceived wilderness. easy to make a film adaptation because B.C. looks the same and will give you tax credits.
The one dunk of the tea bag is serial killer behavior and i stand by that
I find it extra funny learning about the plot of the books and how the actors playing Anna and Christian did not like each other and how they had very little on screen chemistry. Kinda tracks once you see how they act in the books 😂
I went through 4 years of university without getting drunk though 😅 we exist ❤ I'm not even religious or anything I just hate alcohol
Yeah it's way more common than people realise....
i thought this was the norm lmao who tf gets drunk in college/university? whos got time for that??
@bumbabees Americans have the whole frat culture with all those parties. Even in my country we have bars near the campus. You'd be surprised how hard people go when they get a taste of freedom after hs....
Same here! Two years out of college (even at a school with USA party culture) and have never had a sip. Just have no interest
I have basically every reason known to man. I'm religious, have meds that alcohol interfere with, and finally alcohol fucking stinks and drunk people are insufferable
Hearing people explain books is apparently my kind of audiobook I love it
why do so many smutty books seem to lack clear and consise consent before sex?? Idk if this is just a good amount of popular books in the booktube sphere that do this or if its a common trend because the ONLY book reveiw ive seen where the book actually has clear consent between both parties and not a single boundary is broken is the fucken Persephone exhibitionist retelling 😭 i know its fantasy and these books are good for exploring fantasy safely but damn bruh i-
but sometimes communication going off without a hitch is part of the fantasy 😂
like the point of fantasies is that it's your dream situation without the complications of Real People, and having a fantasy-person into exactly what I'm into who knows how to communicate that clearly is glorious and sometimes the whole point
its not a smutty book problem, it is an all books ever problem, that consent is a very distant thougt and only relevant when its not the love interesst . . . .
@@emilyreames7748 communication going off without a hitch and no communication ever are very different things though. you do not always have to ask every step of the way, if you are communicationg well and all, but ana and gray fail to communicate all of the time and it never gets aknowlaged, like her not liking him hitting her and him not even thinking it might upset her and all . . .
speaking as someone who writes fanfiction, this is why I always write consent into my work. my most recent fic involved stuff like anal play, so naturally i made sure my characters were on the same page and ensuring that the person receiving was safe and and maintaining a continuous and enthusiastic "yes". and i made sure i included aftercare. and someone left a super nice comment saying they loved how i managed to make it hot while still incorporating explicit consent.
It's like when I forgot my character was drunk during a scene but if instead of just having them wait to actually do anything the next day when he's sober, I just kept going and instead doubled down on him bring drunk even though he was only tipsy (and the alcohol was a plot device to get him to tell his boyfriend that he does like him but he's worried that him doing anything will creep his bf out so that's why he always goes "haha cool" in response to sexual shit. Crazy! Communication!)
These books are just a horror story of an insanely abusive relationship tbh
Ana not getting drunk is possible. I got through college without drinking (I hate the taste of alcohol)
same! i've been of legal drinking age (in my country) for 4-5 years now without ever getting drunk or partying. just not my jam and i don't see any reason for me to start now 😅
Tbh as someone who does drink every so often (I also don’t like the taste, but I don’t mind getting drunk once in a while) I thought the way she was talking about getting drunk in college was kinda needlessly rude and judgmental. Not everyone wants to be getting drunk when they wanna focus on their studies, not everyone wants to be getting drunk in general. It’s all about personal tastes and what a person likes doing. Whether they choose to ingest alcohol or not shouldn’t really matter when judging someone’s character 😂
@@madokami03 thank you for understanding, that mindset is amazing 🙏🏻
@@madokami03ya I used to be a sober drinker and many of my friends dont drink. Also Ana not drinking fits with her character (seems nervous and anxious and lots of people with anxiety dont like to lose control)
But ya ive been dealing with so many stupid comments since going sober... idk why people act like it is so weird
@@katiemutschler6040 oh yeah Ana definitely seems like the type of shy and meek character who wouldn’t be an active drinker, and probably wouldn’t even do it without someone else suggesting they go to the bar in the first place. I 1000% believe she went all the way through high school and college without getting drunk, it just seems like her
LOL--I remember seeing a cartoon of someone reading the first book--constant "What? Wait, that's not how that works?" with hilarious faces. Then the character finishes the book "Best ending ever!" (because they were broken up). Then someone sets the other two books on the table and character curses.
Ok, so Grey is absolutely an abusive megalomaniac and NEEDS to be told off, but I'm just CACKLING at how Anna's constantly responding to him like "Just because I'm your sub doesn't mean you can tell me what to do!"
Like girl, I don't think you, Grey, or the author have any clue what "submissive" means🤣
See thats the catstrophic part: SHE NEVER SIGNS THE SUB CONTRACT. shes never like. ACTUALLY this dudes sub which makes the entire plot even more insane
Okay my brain can only hold exactly 3 coherent thoughts at once and sharing is caring:
1. I'm so glad I found your channel.
2. It would be so fun to have like a discord channel so we could all talk about bad books in real time.
3. I DNF'ed the first book after like 40 pages but the movies are so camp. I rewatch them every single year. Don't worry, therapy is going very well!
I do the same things with these movies it’s like a tradition 😭 LOL
@@g1rlygurlI made my sophomore year roommate (who is a lesbian) watch them with me in the same empty lab, using the projectors. If my tuition is gonna be 75K per year, I might as well
one dunk isn’t even tea 😭 it’s like a pinch of “seasoned” hot water 😭
The way Christian processes his trauma the same way as Onision ☠️☠️☠️
😂😂😂 now I can't unsee it
Mm no I'm not recovering from this comment now pay for my therapy bills
Girl how do you have 75 subscribers??? This is peak book video-essay quality!
Omg that’s the nicest thing anyone has ever said!! I’m so glad you enjoyed the vid :)
Agree entirely!!! Just followed as well. The algorithm ate with this recommendation, hope she makes it big!!!
@@ainsleesbookclubthe algorithm brought me to you! Idk how you don’t have more subs either
Went from 75 to almost 5k in a month, that's cool
@@cyansalvatore6011Your comment is only three days old and this golden channel is closer to 10k than 5k. Blessed be the algoritm!
The one dunk cup of tea was all I needed to know about her personality
I never knew Christian had trauma like that, I only knew surface level what the concept of the story was.
You could've written a psychologically deep and complex book about a child (boy!) getting sexually abused and groomed, and about how it affected him and how this manifests in his weird sexual desires as an adult etc. It could have been such an interesting piece of media reflecting on trauma and sexual abuse, especially in men, but no, all the world got was that.... whatever this is.
I am thoroughly obsessed with your channel right now! Found you from the selection video and now must binge everything you have already posted.
Twilight, Fifty Shades...obviously the After series is next??? 🥰
oh my gosh you’re so right!! its going on the list 🤠
I vote fifty shames if it hadn’t been covered yet 🙃
is Washington just a cesspool for bad writing?
Oh baby if that's the case (I just started this viseo) I hope Anna Todd financially compensates you at the end for the emotional damages 💀
Reading 50 shades as an aroace woman feels like studying straight people under a microscope. Like do they actually think this kind of behavior towards women is attractive somehow, or is do they enjoy it in the same way people enjoy horror movies? I also think it's interesting how this predatory behavior is romanticized in a lot of straight romance (like 50 shades obviously, but also november 9th and frankly anything else by colleen hoover lol), while most LGBTQ+ media I've seen doesn't do that. My gut assumption is that toxic straight relationships are romanticized in media because of how they're normalized in real life (read: misogyny), but idk for sure.
@sourdoebread It is not that complicated. It’s just kinky in a way that arouses a lot of women. Basically porn in a form of a book.
This same portrayal can be seen in LGBTQ+ media and irl relationships, but it’s more prevalent in how the media portrays straight relationships because that’s the popular archetype archetype. Typically in LGBTQ+ media the relationship will be seen as basically the opposite of how straight relationships are portrayed because that’s the archetype. While these aspects can be found irl, it’s more so that the media has a pre-determined archetype for whatever they’re trying to portray, so that’s what they default to. It also doesn’t help that people have strong reactions to these archetypes which further incentivize the media to keep portraying these archetypes. Though, it’s actually pretty interesting how how certain archetypes we see in the media has been portrayed in books as far back as the Roman time period. So these archetypes have been normalized for a long period of time.
I'm going to ramble a bit 😂:
I read these books when i was going through puberty because i used to be a Wattpad girlie who enjoyed a littlr smut. I was a horny teenager 😂. I read the books because the story was sold as this heavily sexy shmex story so i got relly excited.
When i proceeded to read the books, not only was it a boring and just weird, but it wasn't as sexy as they promised. The jarring ups and downs of this story, especially the last book were the weirdest thing I've ever experienced as a young reader. I think i lost brain cells from reading these books. 😭
I feel like it could have been formatted and written better, but Ms EL James was the author so i expect nothing less from her 😂. But the series has made me so picky, even in my consumption of smut, because it showed me that not all smut and plots are made equally or healthy. This is not touching on how the story and the relationship dynamic is unhealthy as hell. But then again the source material was also questionable. Just across the board it was not the best idea for kid me to read such, but it did educate me more on the importance of consent and led me to learning more about it so its not all bad.
To anyone who read this far, thank you for entertaining my ramble 😅
Ikr! I read the book when I was 13 and even then I thought that Christian's controlling behavior was annoying and far from romantic, and the whole sex stuff was not "sexy" at all
22:44 girl, I have to emotionally recover from the fact I GOT THESE BOOKS FOR MY MOM AS A GIFT 😭😭😭
D: good god that’s horrifying
@@EleanoRa99 I didn’t bother to read them at all but now that I know the plot I’m very concerned for my mom 😭
what am i about to hear im at 19 min
NO
Good heavens. ..💀🥲
I'm only a couple minutes in but why does this sound like the plot of every cringey Wattpad book written by a 14-year-old lol
Cause that’s essentially what it is lol EL James wrote it as twilight fanfic I’m pretty sure
@@ainsleesbookclubit’s 100% a twilight fanfic (i’m pretty sure she admitted it i cant rlly remember) 😭😭 but it’s so bad omg i cannot
😭
A horny 14 year old could probably do better than this on AO3 lol
FINALLYYYYYYYYY someone else who hates the word panties as much as i do.
I absolutely hate that word too. 😂
it just sounds so alksdf;jadf BAD?? Just say underwear or undies, it sounds so much better!
why does it existt just say underwear im crying
my mom calls underwear that and it always makes me a lil die inside 😭
I am that person that finished university without ever being drunk. Alcohol is yucky and you should stop pretending it's pleasant to consume /jocking, obv, but I really really dislike the taste
Edit: christian grey is like literally helicopter partner 💀💀💀
this shows that you’ve drank before though, anna hadn’t EVER drank before
@@assiv4k the critique was that she never got drunk, not that she never drank.
@@assiv4k i _tasted_ alcohol before, i didn't _drank_ it. There _is_ a difference
Fr, I had 2 sips of alcohol in total and that’s enough for me
binge watching your entire channel and girl im OBSESSED. you're so fun to listen to and from one sapphic to another THANK YOU for raising the question we're all too afraid to ask: are the straights okay?
Considering that statistics of abuse in lesbian relationships are highest.... Yeah that isn't the right questions to ask
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl what the fuck is the point of your comment
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl A statistic that I'm SURE isn't affected by selection bias in any way. And the other statistics must be accurate as well, because there's NO WAY gay men would under-report abuse due to societal stigmas. Plus, straight (and bisexual) women NEVER have trouble distinguishing what qualifies as abuse, because they DEFINITELY haven't been conditioned to accept abusive tendencies as normal, acceptable and healthy. I think you really nailed it with this one, man. Completely unbiased and objective stats.
@@yyrael that is cute but The issue of domestic violence among lesbian couples gets underreported due to the gender roles that women are expected to play in society; violence perpetrated by women may be ignored due to beliefs that the male social construction itself is a primary source of violence.
The CDC has stated that 43.8% of lesbian women reported experiencing physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners. The study notes that, out of those 43.8%, two thirds (67.4%) reported exclusively female perpetrators. The other third reported at least one perpetrator being male, however the study made no distinction between victims who experienced violence from male perpetrators only and those who reported both male and female perpetrators. Similarly, 61.1% of bisexual women reported physical violence, stalking, or rape by their partners in the same study with 89.5% reporting at least one perpetrator being male. In contrast, 35% of heterosexual women reported having been victim of intimate partner violence, with 98.7% of them reporting male perpetrators exclusively.
We aren't talking about some subtle abuse here we are talking about obvious ones
Social service agencies are often unwilling to assist victims of domestic violence perpetrated by women.
And Victims of domestic violence in lesbian relationships are less likely to have the case prosecuted within existing legal systems.
All because they share your beliefs that it's impossible for women to be abusive with each other
@@yyraeli would like to add also that the statistic doesn’t ask about relationships, it’s about sexuality! basically, lesbians have faced of the highest rates of domestic violence next to bisexual women which makes sense when you consider misogyny and the fetishization of wlw relationships by men. not denying that abuse happens in wlw relationships bcs of course it does, but in the statistics it is never specified what the gender of the abusive partner is. i bet that the statistics are so high bcs of past male partners for lesbians.
"the last time he had to go to a meeting, he went missing for five pages" PLSSSSS
This got me so good i had to pause oh my godddd fjdjhdfhjjd
As an aro/ace person i find so much fun in your content ❤
I can not relate to any of the romance books and when i read them, then for the weird content hidden within
And u bring that out so good!
Thank you so much!
fellow aroace, i understand this--i do not have the capacity nor want to understand this and its so fun to see it absolutely wrecked sjsjsjsbsbsj
Aroace here too, this is certainly an experience. I seldom feel like an alien 👽 observing human behaviour. Perplexing.
The amount of times I’ve shouted “Girley Pop!!” And “Girley Pop?!” Is criminal lol
I went through four years of college without ever being drunk so its possible lol, but its pretty icky how her first tipsy experience was taken advantage of like that...
tragically i must confirm the never getting drunk in university thing... some of us kind of just free ball university
i've watched so many youtubers talk about this series but not in the same level of detail. on one hand finding out that grey (and el james by extension) has a foot fetish is very funny, but on the other hand i wish i could reach into my brain and scrub that knowledge away.
I'm so sorry to ask but??? SHE HAS A FOOT FETISH???
@@cloudriilejion4589 in general, fanfic erotica writers will write about what they think is hot. also, usually porn writers completely ignore the feet unless they have a kink about or related to feet. ergo, 50 shades has foot sucking = el james has a foot fetish
@@mysideacc2770 oh my god, thank you for explaining that, time to make my friends question their sanity.
The part about how Ana had never been drunk before really isn't super outlandish. Some people just aren't interested in drinking :) But otherwise, this book makes my eyes and ears bleed, so, good video!
Lol I got through 6 years of university without ever getting drunk, but at least I know how to make tea
The word panties genuinely haunts me
The amount of times i hear her say:"they had s*x". Is CRAZY.
Your voice is so calming. I love this video! Thank you for going through the pain of reading these books so I didnt have to.
"There's no way you get through 4 years of college without getting drunk."
Me, who was in college for 5 years and doesn't like to drink because even being buzzed feels weird: 😳
I have conflicted feelings on the pregnancy trope.
On one hand, the inclusion of pregnancy in a ‘steamy-type’ romance book gives out a positive message that you can still be desired even while carrying (I’m guessing a lot of women have that specific insecurity, which is why it’s a trope in the first place). On the other hand, it (unintentionally) reinforces the idea that having a healthy relationship and having a kid go hand-in-hand. And a lot of us know firsthand that that is NOT true.
There’s also the issue that authors tend to skip over the option of aborting, but that’s really more of a marketing decision. I imagine a lot of editors push to leave that discussion out, as it would alienate some audience and hurt sales.
Honestly I love that you sound like your telling me about your high school drama
You forgot about the disturbing detail that he only took submissives who had long brown hair because they looked like his biological mother................. EW
So far the realistic part of this whole thing is the doctor being in the face about birth control. Having been yelled at by doctors and nurses for birth control when I’m there for something completely unrelated is exactly my medical experience (at least Anna was visiting the doctor for BC).
But very unrealistic that an OB/GYN does house calls or any doctor for that matter. Except for a hospice doctor, my mom's hospice doctor came to see my mom 1 or 2 times a month with nurses coming 3 times a week
you had me at "hate billionaires" SUBBEDD!!!
My fondest memory of the fifty shades triology is that even as a teenager I didn't want to pay any money for this and found all books for free as a pdf.
Thank you for the video!!! Brought so many forgotten memories back to the surface!!! I remember reading them during a summer holiday, on a laptop (as pdf files), as a YOUNG TEENAGER…. Something stuck to me throughout all these years was the very end of the last novel, during the last moment of "intimacy": Anastasia saying who the baby LIKED what was Christian doing…….. can’t help but cringe to this piece of writing
(sorry for the grammar mistakes, English isn’t my first language)
take a shot every time the dude gets angry
About the surviving ten years at University and never getting drunk thing, i think its fully possible.
Some people dont like alcohol, some people don't like the idea of it and can go their entire lives without a drop
Girl this is everything!! I love your style and your content, you have such good vibes
thank you!!!
What college student, especially an English major, doesn’t have a computer? Like it’s a VERY writing intensive major
The implication in the hardware store scene im assuming is he’s using these items for his BDSM fungeon ( at least from how I see it) and that’s SO STUPID cause hard ware store rope is the last thing you’d want for bondage stuff. I’m not even part of the community and I’m even like “ yeah that’d feel really icky on my skin no thanks “ lol.
Ana wants to go to Europe. Truly a unique and special girly...
was ur channel like selectively bred for my entertainment jfc immediate subscribe r u kidding me i basically only watch 1-2 hr recap videos pls continue to do gods work
"Sensuality pulls out the tampon," me eating the sausious spaghetti 🤢
I'm loving your vibe, the perfect amount of sass, a hatred of the word panties, all while being a quality video essay
Kinda weird that the singular canonically non-white person tries to drunkenly assault the main character. Maybe some racism there.
Also I will never understand the appeal of the glamorization of virginity and acting like it’s sexy to never explore your own pleasure and only liking what your partner gives you permission to/encourages you to like. Like dude, you’re not a canvas for a man to project his fantasies onto, you’re your own person and you deserve to find out what you like without it being about other people. If I’m remembering correctly, they even made a point to be like “she’s never even TOUCHED herself before!1!!” Which is so 🤢🤢 as if the idea of Ana getting to know her own body would make her ‘less pure’ in some way. That in particular has to be one of my least favorite tropes of all time, and unfortunately it’s very prevalent in older erotica.
There is something about this series that feels generations old, like there is an outdatedness to it, yk? And I guess if that’s your thing that’s fine, I certainly had a whale of a time reading it for my own reasons, but the old timey-ness to the plot and characters still perplexes me to this day
This was so entertaining because you framed it like high school drama 🙏😭
Great video! This was exactly the kind of book commentary/review type video that I've been looking for
Why are so many people breaking into his apartment so easily 😂
I love your videos so much! I just discovered your channel and i am binging all your content rn, it's amazing😌😌(and your voice and storytelling is so comforting!!)
Haunting Adeline makes this super tame and normal
I loved the way that this felt just like a friend ranting about some crazy book and getting to listen and discuss the crazy shit about it. I feel like youre an awesome friend :)
Im soo glad I found you, these video essays are GOLD! You'll have so many subscribers in NO TIME, girl!! 🎉
One thing I hate about this book is that it's whole boom is around it being kinky, but literally there is almost no acceptable kink? There's no actual proper practice of bdsm and half of the time we watch our main character get coerced/abused/be highly uncomfortable,, like the whole point is this dude wanting a 'submissive' (slave would be better) and since day one ana just doesn't want to, so like what is the point of this???
For the college drinking thing, I just graduated and I’ve never been drunk, but this is because of my severe fear of vomit
I remember when my ex boyfriend made me watch this with him and said ‘oh we should try that’ at some of the sex scenes and kept looking at me for approval 😭
"HE GAVE ME THE ICKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK"😭😭😭 that's disgusting, love seeing that ex next to boyfriend tho😋
I’m so here for this new trend of books-turned-video-essays that’s taking over CZcams. It’s like getting to put on an old favorite show in the background while I do work 🙌🏻
I love how Elliot is just Andrew Garfield
I applaud you for reading not one but THREE books for this. I DNF’d a chapter inn😭
I read Twilight and then refused to read any of the other books. When 50shades came out and someone said that it was basically Twilight rewritten, I knew that it was going to be bad. BUT after much deliberating, I decided it was not good to say something was bad if you haven’t tried it. I could not get past the first 100 pages. It horrified me! But your video was really entertaining and I thoroughly enjoyed listening to your rant. 😊
the way i am so obsessed with 50 shades of grey, like i hate it, but I will watch anything related to it
As someone who is borderline ace, this series makes me squirm just thinking about it.
I’ve never been drunk and I’m almost 30 so it’s totally possible. Not everyone is into that. But Ana is like a toddler in her level of experience in EVERYTHING. Has to do an interview? Doesn’t research. Wants tea? One dunk of the bag. Curiosity in her own sexuality? She could never. Drinking? Never had a sip. She’s just… she’s too much
I don't wanna trigger anyone but... E.L. James didn't think ANYTHING was wrong with ANNA Steele and MIA Gray?????
this comment is literally living in my brain because I have no idea what it means 😭 I might just be stupid but can you pls explain I won’t know peace until I understand
@@ainsleesbookclub I’m glad you don’t know, actually. ‘Anna’ here should be ‘Ana’, for Anastasia, which might make it clearer. ‘Ana’ is short for ‘anorexia’ and ‘Mia’ for ‘bulimia’, slang terms used on pro-anorexia websites and forums. Given the emphasis on Christian’s controlling of Ana’s food, it’s possibly not coincidental.
Oh jeez that’s so much worse than I expected! If it’s on purpose, that is so so so messed up, and if not it’s a VERY unfortunate coincidence !
Wait, I'm slow, so are you saying that they themselves are anorexic and bulimic or that this is a fetish for them?
@@bmlgordon I'm going to throw up what the fuck
I'm almost 28 and have never been drunk. I went to university, didn't want to drink, and so I didn't. Ana is for sure based on a character that is the epitome of purity culture, but can we please stop acting like not drinking alcohol is the weirdest thing in the world???
Finally, the long form niche book content I've been looking for