an unnecessarily thorough recap of the LUNAR CHRONICLES ('Cinder' by Marissa Meyer)

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  • čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
  • these books were my absolute JAM in middle school! i ate them up!!
    Suggest a bad book: forms.gle/MTvZ...
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    required reading ✊😔 (not really)
    Hale, Sierra. “Postracial Futures and colorblind ideology.” Race in Young Adult Speculative Fiction, 22 Apr. 2021, pp. 111-128, doi.org/10.143....
    Hoffman, Kelly M., et al. “Racial bias in pain assessment and treatment recommendations, and false beliefs about biological differences between blacks and whites.” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, vol. 113, no. 16, 4 Apr. 2016, pp. 4296-4301, doi.org/10.107....
    Omosigho, Pius Omoruyi, et al. “Stigma and infectious diseases in Africa: Examining impact and strategies for reduction.” Annals of Medicine & Surgery, vol. 85, no. 12, 1 Nov. 2023, pp. 6078-6082, doi.org/10.109....

Komentáře • 782

  • @sophiaeck
    @sophiaeck Před 2 měsíci +2526

    Cinder did not have enough Episode diamonds to get a dress for the ball so the only other option was garbage

  • @radioactiveshorty3801
    @radioactiveshorty3801 Před 2 měsíci +2946

    England and Europe being different “countries”……girl predicted brexit

    • @cymbelinesgf
      @cymbelinesgf Před 2 měsíci +163

      the tories read the lunar chronicles confirmed

    • @myrrhder8964
      @myrrhder8964 Před 2 měsíci +54

      Lmaooooo, she was ahead of her time 😌

    • @psaikik
      @psaikik Před 2 měsíci +32

      england is still part of europe. europe is a continent, the eu is NOT europe

    • @ritikasharma3362
      @ritikasharma3362 Před 2 měsíci +2

      ​@@psaikik I don't see any difference

    • @laurabrendel9584
      @laurabrendel9584 Před 2 měsíci +14

      Neither Europe nor the EU are one country and England was before the Brexit already an Independent country.

  • @triplemproductions2350
    @triplemproductions2350 Před 2 měsíci +3460

    I’m shocked to learn maybe the Lunar Chronicles isn’t as high quality writing as I had assumed all these years after reading and loving them as a kid…

    • @francescakyanda9182
      @francescakyanda9182 Před 2 měsíci +221

      me eating this series up in high school and barely being able to stomach them in college

    • @kekayowrites
      @kekayowrites Před 2 měsíci +173

      I mean, they *are* YA books so they were made for our younger selves, before our tastes shifted

    • @anapaulagonzalezduran8170
      @anapaulagonzalezduran8170 Před 2 měsíci +72

      I noticed that too during re-reading, it seemed more exciting when I was in middle school but now in college it feels to basic, simple or even nonsensical

    • @Itsgay2read
      @Itsgay2read Před 2 měsíci

      I think you need a bit of unhinged to really get people talking about your books. I mean, we are sitting through an hour plus long video talking about them so the author did something right.

    • @oceanrosethatsailsacrossth3466
      @oceanrosethatsailsacrossth3466 Před 2 měsíci

      @@anapaulagonzalezduran8170facts

  • @crazyth1ngs600
    @crazyth1ngs600 Před 2 měsíci +1828

    Nooo, the way I collapsed to the floor at the "Don't worry, he's just an omega", I did NOT expect that 😭😭😭

    • @junejulyandaugust
      @junejulyandaugust Před 2 měsíci +124

      i lost it at the "alpha female. i like that" part 💀💀

    • @junehoneycrisp
      @junehoneycrisp Před 8 dny +2

      I was so blissfully not connecting the dots when I read these years ago 💀

  • @kairi99roxas
    @kairi99roxas Před 2 měsíci +1034

    You skipped over Winter's backstory of why she doesn't use her powers!? That's what stuck with me the most, it goes so hard!
    A servant tried to off herself because she was being r**ed over and over so Winter mind controls her to be happy for years, while she's still being r**ed, until the servant finally actually offs herself and winter realized she had tortured this girl, and she vowed to never do it again!

    • @zionmeier2531
      @zionmeier2531 Před 2 měsíci +235

      oh my god i forgot about this… these books get dark lowkey wtf

    • @medea__witchhh
      @medea__witchhh Před měsícem +231

      as someone who has never read this series, respectfully (?), WHATTTTTTT

    • @einfachpi5730
      @einfachpi5730 Před měsícem

      If I saw her on the street it would have been ON SIGHT

    • @bgreer3067
      @bgreer3067 Před měsícem +37

      It’s in the book of side stories

    • @kairi99roxas
      @kairi99roxas Před měsícem +12

      @@bgreer3067 is it? I did not remember that

  • @GlitteredGoose
    @GlitteredGoose Před 2 měsíci +3082

    As a black woman, I just want to say thank you for pointing out how subtle racism can sneak its way into literature. 1. Taking countries largely holding POC and reducing them to one country (“Asia” and “Africa”) while not doing that for Europe is wild. And 2. Most plagues and pandemics throughout history started in Europe but for some reason the author decided to have her plague come from Africa. I know they’re just books but when this stuff happens constantly, it’s so hard to ignore.

    • @happyweek11
      @happyweek11 Před 2 měsíci +16

      Not meant to offend, just trying to learn. Most Americans for example doesn’t know all the countries in Asia and Africa, hell not also Europe but they probably heard of some. How would you write in an African character from example Rawanda or Namibia or Angola without directly stating from the character own mount where they are from?
      I’m in no way a author, but I like to write, and that’s always a thing I wonder on when it comes to characters when the main may not be the best when it comes to countries or like other than - oh they probably from Scandinavia they say they from the north - type of stuff.
      I have a character from myanmar, not at all a big character, very much a side character and I have no idea how to show he’s from there without having him say it. He has a traditional name from myanmar or Burma as it was once called, and I looked up facial features to see how people from myanmar looks. But readers that doesn’t know myanmar, will probably just think - oh he’s Asian - and leave it at that. How would be the best way to show he’s from there? I have a character from Rawanda who also have a common name who directly state in a dialogue his nationality due to referring to something that happened to him while he lived there ( doesn’t anymore ) but my character from myanmar, I have no away how to naturally show it as he’s such a minor character but still think he deserves it.

    • @caramazzola2399
      @caramazzola2399 Před 2 měsíci +238

      ​@@happyweek11 hey I'm just a random white guy so maybe I'll be super off base, but maybe talk to a Burmese person if you're researching how to portray a character from Myanmar?

    • @timeturnerdust6093
      @timeturnerdust6093 Před 2 měsíci +18

      LITERALLY

    • @timeturnerdust6093
      @timeturnerdust6093 Před 2 měsíci +199

      @@happyweek11 bestie, maybe don't ask a random black woman a question about writing an African character if she never offered advice on the topic??????? there are tons of creators and platforms that you can find that offer advice, including youtube videos if you don't want to leave the website for whatever reason.

    • @the_entropia
      @the_entropia Před 2 měsíci +98

      ​@@happyweek11 Just do your research lol. You need to know abt political tensions in the region, how patriotism is seen, what divides the people, what are some cultural perspectives that impact their worldview etc. Yes, it's that easy.

  • @stevenlucas9963
    @stevenlucas9963 Před 2 měsíci +1159

    Hearing about "Jacin" immediately shot me back to mt first time playing Sims4 and I had a preloaded sim named Jayceon in one of the fancy houses and I tried to make him electrocute himself so he would die and I could give the house to someone else who didn't have a stupidass name, but then he aged up into an old man and I realized his life's ambition was to find true love and he had NO FRIENDS so I felt bad and made it my life's mission to get him a girlfriend before he died. Which I did, and he and his gf died on the same day and I was so emotional that I turned off aging forever. This has absolutely nothing to do with anything but I felt the need to share it. Anyways thanks for the trip down memory lane, love your videos xo

    • @shaunalynn2997
      @shaunalynn2997 Před měsícem +75

      This bittersweet plot twist story about your Sim was more enjoyable than some YA/Fantasy novels I've read lol

    • @helenahildegarda5739
      @helenahildegarda5739 Před měsícem +24

      This made me emotional ​

  • @duhitsdanii
    @duhitsdanii Před měsícem +173

    Meyer making Cress 16 and Thorne 20 was certainly a choice🧍🏽‍♀️

  • @theflickchick9850
    @theflickchick9850 Před 2 měsíci +525

    Oh my goodness, not the only explicitly African character being named JAMAL and existing to human traffic one of the women characters. YIIIKKKESSS.

  • @Pharm2be
    @Pharm2be Před 2 měsíci +711

    The way I was obsessed with Scarlet and Wolf’s relationship as a child and was so absolutely crushed and devastated with the way they ended. I immediately learned I wasn’t a furry lol

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 2 měsíci +32

      Thats omregaverse, not furry. omegaverse is the erotica that is with mpreg and disproven wolf misconceptions.

    • @Pharm2be
      @Pharm2be Před 2 měsíci +144

      @@marocat4749no it was his transformation at the end that I couldn’t handle. That’s furry.

    • @astrocytes
      @astrocytes Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​tell me more about the disproven misconceptions. I'm guessing it's not the fun stuff like 'wolves communicate via telepathic image sharing'. (I have no idea who came up with that, but some documentary claimed this. It always sounded f🎉ar-fetched to me.

    • @Pharm2be
      @Pharm2be Před 2 měsíci +30

      @@astrocytes it’s the alpha, beta, and omega hierarchy. It was based on studies of captive wolves and isn’t seen in wild packs.

    • @abbeyBominable123
      @abbeyBominable123 Před 2 měsíci +2

      wait what happened to wolf at the end? I forgot.

  • @hanamurachans
    @hanamurachans Před 2 měsíci +247

    as someone who is a little entrenched in internet culture... the alpha/omega thing originally didn't come from the manosphere alpha male stuff we have today, it was some scientist's misinterpretation of the hierarchy within wolf packs. idk if youve ever seen or heard of the "alpha & omega" animated movies from 2010, but that's kind of the gist of it. the author was probably trying to use that to denote "wolf hierarchy" within the org
    it then got turned into The Omegaverse, a fanfiction genre which i Don't think Meyer is intentionally referencing, but it would be funny
    edit: after that alpha female exchange... it might be the omegaverse.

    • @boohooter23
      @boohooter23 Před měsícem +24

      MM was a huge fangirl and wrote sailor moon fanfiction before writing the lunar chronicles. She definitely had the chance to be exposed to the omegaverse even if she wasn't in any fandom trenches afaik

    • @waewae
      @waewae Před 25 dny +3

      The Supernatural fandom kind of built up the omegaverse we know today, iirc.

  • @ratsbys
    @ratsbys Před 2 měsíci +589

    NOT THE LIN MANUEL MIRANDA LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE IS LOVE IS-

  • @kaylawilkins
    @kaylawilkins Před 2 měsíci +688

    1. cinder being the lunar princess is giving barbie princess charm school omg
    2. don't apologize for thinking critically !! by far my fav part of your summaries are when you break down the problematic nature of these series' ! this one was especially good- an article and everything LOL
    i love your channel sm girlie

    • @icewave3031
      @icewave3031 Před 2 měsíci +15

      so I'm not the only one who thought that! when I was reading this book I predicted it fully because of princess charm school

    • @MaGpeS
      @MaGpeS Před měsícem +6

      It's similar, but probably it's a reference of Usagi Tsukino being Princess Serenity. That makes sense when you remember that Meyer wrote fanfiction about Sailor Moon once.

  • @jasminv8653
    @jasminv8653 Před 2 měsíci +1057

    What Im learning from the racist worldbuilding is that somehow Brexit exist in this universe

    • @zellalaing5439
      @zellalaing5439 Před měsícem +2

      Brexit wasn't just racism, the very idea of boiling down all brexit voters to being racist and demonising them for that false sterotype is hypocrisy.

    • @seiretzym
      @seiretzym Před měsícem +46

      ​@@zellalaing5439 I think you need to go back and re-read the comment, as you're responding to something that wasn't even said.

    • @Crabernacker
      @Crabernacker Před měsícem +14

      ​@@zellalaing5439 i don't think we read the same comment

  • @unlivinh
    @unlivinh Před 2 měsíci +410

    why is every relationship in these books except for winter and jacin between a teenage girl and a grown man😭😭😭

    • @ampix4669
      @ampix4669 Před 2 měsíci +78

      I swearrrr, Cress is like 16 and Thorne is in his mid twenties, and the power dinamic between them is kinda gross too

    • @owo4983
      @owo4983 Před 2 měsíci +135

      ages from the wiki
      cinder: 16
      kai: 18
      scarlet: 18
      wolf: 23
      cress: 16
      thorne: 20
      winter: 17
      jacin: 19
      i mean the age gap between cinder and kai is the same as jacin and winter
      but its also especially worse with cress and thorne since cress has been isolated for most of her life. scarlet is at least pretty independent and living in an actual community

    • @unlivinh
      @unlivinh Před 2 měsíci +50

      @@owo4983 thank you for this😭 it’s nice to know the cinder and kai age gap isn’t what i thought it was… childhood still ruined tho

    • @Lizzypotter-h4m
      @Lizzypotter-h4m Před měsícem +10

      Umm Kai is not a fukin grown man he and cinder are 2 goddamn years apart

    • @Lizzypotter-h4m
      @Lizzypotter-h4m Před měsícem +2

      OMGWolf is 23😱😱😱😱😱

  • @isawsevenbirds
    @isawsevenbirds Před 2 měsíci +746

    My friend got me into reading these when i was like 14, i loved them so much 😭😭 cant wait to see the potentially problematic things my unperceptive teen brain didnt pick up on

    • @isawsevenbirds
      @isawsevenbirds Před 2 měsíci +44

      FR though I love love love Marissa Meyer's books, as a big Alice in Wonderland girlie Heartless has always been a favourite, and the Renegades series is so fun, and I say this as a 20 year old woman

    • @nikki.ragnvindr
      @nikki.ragnvindr Před 2 měsíci +17

      Same lmao I'm kinda scared. I loved Heartless so much, too. I dropped Renegades, though, because it got boring and predictable and corny imo.

    • @jojoa939
      @jojoa939 Před 2 měsíci +12

      @@nikki.ragnvindr the renegades ending was really disappointing tbh..none of the issues with the renegades organization were ever addressed...basically the people in power who abused said power are still in power at the end of the book but somehow everyone is ok with it for reasons i don't even understand

    • @llamabean529
      @llamabean529 Před měsícem

      Sounds like real life except there are some people who aren't okay with it

    • @universedonut159
      @universedonut159 Před měsícem

      @@jojoa939 Exaactly, the ending made no sense

  • @waaaaaaaaah652
    @waaaaaaaaah652 Před 2 měsíci +799

    WHEN WE NEEDED HER MOST SHE RETURNED🫡🫡🫡

  • @cecilia-pc5iy
    @cecilia-pc5iy Před 2 měsíci +385

    they have to got to Paris while the other meet up in "Africa" . JUST Africa ??? 😭

    • @screamingbegins4688
      @screamingbegins4688 Před měsícem +12

      i think its cus its a rlly small village but they could like at least name what country its innn, like we know its off the saharah destert but thats it

  • @peachykeent1222
    @peachykeent1222 Před 2 měsíci +702

    i totally agree with bringing up the mistreatment of black people by the medical industry but i thought that the "cyborg draft" was supposed to be some allegory for disabled people? the reason cinder is a cyborg is because of an accident that occurred, meaning the cyborg-ifcation process is some type of medical procedure similar to our prosthesis work. i also think it makes sense to compare because they're seen as less "important" than humans and they're "owned", maybe similar to a conservatorship or medical power of attorney? i don't know, just rambling here. i'm not disabled so i'm very happy to hear others' thoughts on this. great video!

    • @mybirdiswierd5307
      @mybirdiswierd5307 Před 2 měsíci +131

      Reading them as a kid I always felt the same, and interpreted all the cyborgs as their perceived "second class citizens" who had disabilities and were being shunned from society. But I guess I had grown up with disabled siblings and family members, so I was kinda set up for that interpretation I guess lol

    • @lunafowler5736
      @lunafowler5736 Před 2 měsíci +112

      Disabled people and black people have both been abused by the medical industry, and there are nuances to each kind of medical abuse, but I think the cyborg situation in the book could be an allegory for either. Idk if the author was really thinking it through that much lol, so the allegory is so vague that I think it's just about like general medical abuse of people considered second class citizens.

    • @freyjathehealer5559
      @freyjathehealer5559 Před 22 dny +5

      @@lunafowler5736it’s fine for something to represent multiple things and it doesn’t make the messaging less impactful. What does make it less impactful is the secret “actually we had a reasonable and justifiable reason for doing these things.” It undercuts the messaging a little bit to be like “we needed to do this awful thing to save the world” unless the author is trying to make a point of “the ends don’t justify the means.”

    • @toxicsugarart2103
      @toxicsugarart2103 Před 17 dny

      SAME THOUGHT

    • @maomi1852
      @maomi1852 Před 16 dny

      Same... but these people just like to see racism everywhere lol

  • @girlwholovescinema
    @girlwholovescinema Před 2 měsíci +479

    Forever wishing i was a half-cyborg lunar princess that has a questionable prince wrapped around my finger.

  • @NixanAmbrose
    @NixanAmbrose Před 2 měsíci +218

    If anyone wants to do more research on real life connections to better learn about where the "testing plague on cyborgs rather than humans" came from, the tuskegee syphilis study is a really great starting point to learn about racism in the medical industry. This is one of the studies I and probably many others had to study when it comes to medical research ethics^

  • @amelooloo
    @amelooloo Před 2 měsíci +235

    i only read the first two books and i only really remembered that cinder was a cyborg with a metal leg (my disabled queen) so imagine my surprise when you said there was a country on the MOON????? HOW DID I FORGET THAT PART 😭😭😭

    • @blueai5022
      @blueai5022 Před měsícem

      Moon country irrelevant! She's got a cool robot leg and is disabled!

    • @Sam-dz3xs
      @Sam-dz3xs Před měsícem +6

      I am right there with you, I only read Cinder though. The only thing I remembered was that there was something messed up with her foot at the endish… so the moon thing was a surprise for sure, I don’t even think I remembered her being the lost princess

    • @britt6184
      @britt6184 Před měsícem +2

      She has a whole lot more than just a metal leg. One of her hands is also robotic and a majority of her interior.
      It's a miracle she lived through the "accident" that destroyed most of her body.

  • @eggshed
    @eggshed Před 2 měsíci +146

    the awful "asian" names and the incorrect honorifics killed me like GIRL WHAT WERE YOU THINKING??????

  • @ms_mourning_dove
    @ms_mourning_dove Před 2 měsíci +159

    So it’s known that Marrisa Meyer wrote Sailor Moon fanfic back in the early 2000’s so the moon kingdom is very much a nod towards that.
    I guess the lunar queen, Kai and Cinder is suppose to imitate the Beryl, Endymion and Serenity dynamic?

    • @MaGpeS
      @MaGpeS Před měsícem +15

      Yep. It's kinda obvious when you think about it. 🤔

    • @ciennasuperstar1247
      @ciennasuperstar1247 Před měsícem +8

      I was thinking that the whole video, I feel vindicated

    • @blueai5022
      @blueai5022 Před měsícem +8

      Oh, okay, as someone who never bothered reading this series, I was SUPER wondering why it just sounded like Sailor Moon nonsense when I got to the mention of the moon country in the video. (I also say "Sailor Moon nonsense" affectionately. I watched it a lot when I was a kid.)

    • @valolafson6035
      @valolafson6035 Před měsícem +2

      I 100% read them because of the Sailor Moon connection.

    • @ms_mourning_dove
      @ms_mourning_dove Před měsícem +9

      @@blueai5022 same here and the odd thing is her fanfic profile is still up. Usually when an author goes from fanfic to publish they just delete everything.

  • @ko379
    @ko379 Před 2 měsíci +85

    i didnt read these books until last year when i was an adult, and scarlet is a million percent my favorite one. something about the way scarlet just kept throwing herself at this red flag of a man filled me with glee. and when wolf says "no, lunar special operative" i literally put down the book and laughed hard for five minutes. because of course it is. of course his tattoo doesn't stand for "loyal soldier of the order of the pack" that's the STUPIDEST possible thing that could stand for!!! why would scarlet believe that, i'm laughing again just thinking about it, they were my favorite couple. second favorite part of the books was in winter when the lunars are effectively like "you should surrender so wolf doesn't die" and cinder is like "this revolution is bigger than any of us" and then like a chapter later levana is like "i'll kill thorne" and cinder is like "nooooo not my best friend, don't hurt him". the blatant favoritism sent me

    • @llamabean529
      @llamabean529 Před měsícem +1

      I also read this as an adult but this was after a gap of not reading for a while and kinda just taking these at face value. Safe to say I have higher bars set now

    • @universedonut159
      @universedonut159 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah Cinder could've just left Wolf with their friends and handed herself over, but she decided to bring Wolf too and get them both captured? Like what could he do by himself against the thaumaturge and all the guards? I like her, but that's the one decision I didn't understand

  • @princessdelfi
    @princessdelfi Před 2 měsíci +103

    I remember that my favourite book was scarlet (former wolf number one fan here) and I LOVED how everything falls into place in the books and how everything was connected. My 13 year old brain was amazed

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +18

      omg yes! it blew my mind, honestly this series is like the origin story for my love of interconnected plots with characters on seemingly different paths that start to intersect until the inevitable collision, and it rly did all fall into place so well. and i stand by the fact that this series did it well, and even though by now i've read more books w this that may be better, for a long time it was like the only time i read this and lowkey i'd still cite it as a satisfying example.
      tbh scarlet was my least fav of the three i read, im sorry dont remember why besides maybe my attention span and untreated adhd lmao, but eventually once i got into it and everything started coming together, oh i was so sat. (also was more of a kai girl myself, with thorne as a close second)

    • @brookebennett6006
      @brookebennett6006 Před 27 dny

      Same

  • @hrmnzdmatryoshka
    @hrmnzdmatryoshka Před 2 měsíci +205

    I appreciate how you research & challenge harmful stereotypes about africa and provide links to helpful resources

  • @scarlettrrosee
    @scarlettrrosee Před 2 měsíci +326

    Ya know, even though this does have some controversial aspects and things that probably should have had more details, this series is still one of the best plotted and foreshadowing YA series to date

  • @Lilfroggyonalillypad
    @Lilfroggyonalillypad Před 2 měsíci +278

    i assumed that the plague was a reference to colonizers bringing a bunch diseases to america and infecting native americans but i can see your point

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +100

      wow I totally didn’t read it that way, but that’s a super interesting take

    • @GracefullyClumsy
      @GracefullyClumsy Před 2 měsíci +15

      @@kindateia How? I might be misremembering, but weren't their ancestors a bunch of rich people who shot themselves into space during a world war and left the rest of Earth behind? Or maybe that's just what I've accidentally made up over the years

    • @herz5159
      @herz5159 Před 2 měsíci +19

      ​@@GracefullyClumsyI remember at least some were just genuinely refugees trying to escape their tyrant and there horrible conditions they're in

    • @GracefullyClumsy
      @GracefullyClumsy Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@herz5159 ooooohhhh you mean after? Yeah that’s definitely true

  • @kemflan14
    @kemflan14 Před 2 měsíci +50

    So, so glad someone finally pointed out the subtle racism in these books! I felt icky about all the characters with Vietnamese surnames living in "New Beijing", which is now the capital of all of the continent of Asia. It seems like she was attempting to create a modern version of imperialism

    • @xoxo2226
      @xoxo2226 Před měsícem +4

      It's still so funny to me that Cinder decided to dissolve the monarchy on Luna just to get with a king on Earth. Like sis you literally JUST got rid of your royal status, what's the rush?

  • @TobiasFangorIsntCis
    @TobiasFangorIsntCis Před 2 měsíci +281

    I totally called the “mc with a mysterious past IS the princess with a mysterious fate” twist. Classic

    • @kiwid3628
      @kiwid3628 Před 2 měsíci +18

      Me too!!!! It's such an overused trope in YA novels that the second they mentioned a 'lost princess' I knew it that it would be the protagonist

    • @screamingbegins4688
      @screamingbegins4688 Před měsícem +6

      well she is cinderella....

    • @TobiasFangorIsntCis
      @TobiasFangorIsntCis Před měsícem +5

      @@screamingbegins4688 what does that have anything to do with anything? Cinderella is typically a noblewoman whose family treats her like servant, not a secret orphaned princess.

  • @whitefire5740
    @whitefire5740 Před 2 měsíci +191

    the way i RAN i loved these books sm
    pls do red queen next !! the book of my middle school life

    • @CHiCguitar
      @CHiCguitar Před 2 měsíci +24

      The ultimate shitty book for shitty book club!!! War Storm was awful :)

    • @juliana8374
      @juliana8374 Před 2 měsíci +11

      FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES RED QUEEN WENT S O DOWNHILL all my friends still love it and i just couldn't. it ruined the whole series for me lmao😭😭

    • @nikki.ragnvindr
      @nikki.ragnvindr Před 2 měsíci +5

      ​@CHiCguitar omg yes I stopped reading after Maven died and hearing about it instead of having to finish the books would be great lol

    • @beehive5370
      @beehive5370 Před 2 měsíci +5

      I remember when I read that and I loved it and then realised how terrible the books were. Ultimate YA problematic book.

    • @the_entropia
      @the_entropia Před 2 měsíci +1

      middle school life and curse...

  • @mayas3422
    @mayas3422 Před 2 měsíci +20

    reread this series recently for the first time since i was like 14 and god... the casual racism, the pandemic/plague, the casual misogyny.. but omg the ships IMPRINTED themselves on me like cinder and kai still have me kicking my feet
    and omg thanks for article recommendations!!

    • @musicnerd2639
      @musicnerd2639 Před měsícem +3

      this!!! except the only ship i cared about was kai/cinder (and a little bit of winter/jacin-but no where near the amount i loved cinderkai !!)

  • @tarynpolson8090
    @tarynpolson8090 Před 2 měsíci +109

    The Selection Series, Modelland, and now the Lunar Chronicles?? How do you know all of my favourite terrible books, I love you 😭

  • @Coyoteari
    @Coyoteari Před 2 měsíci +204

    Hold up. You’re telling me this is a story about a moon princess who doesn’t know she’s a moon princess at first & she needs to save the world from an evil queen? And her love interest is sort of a villain & manipulated by the evil queen for a bit? Does he also wear a tuxedo, or perhaps a mask? 🤔

    • @lizsmith1018
      @lizsmith1018 Před 2 měsíci +65

      Marissa Meyer started writing Sailor Moon fan fiction (and I think Star Wars and Harry Potter as well if I’m not mistaken) so the similarities weren’t subtle, and I’m pretty she even said they were on purpose because of how much she loved Sailor Moon growing up and wanted to incorporate it in the series

    • @call_rickey
      @call_rickey Před 2 měsíci +24

      the series is based on a sailor moon au she wrote in college (I believe) :) she linked to it on her blog years and years ago now

    • @stephaniewright8285
      @stephaniewright8285 Před 2 měsíci +2

      so is levanna perhaps queen beryl

    • @Girl_Delinquent
      @Girl_Delinquent Před měsícem

      ​@@call_rickeydo you know what the au was?
      Edit: I meant specifically, like what was it about

    • @llamabean529
      @llamabean529 Před měsícem

      I didn't know this.

  • @idontlikekiwi
    @idontlikekiwi Před 2 měsíci +152

    "Hey Amelia ☺" sounded so sincere I felt like an amelia

    • @PieNumber4
      @PieNumber4 Před 2 měsíci +28

      I *am* an amelia. I was *scared*

    • @idontlikekiwi
      @idontlikekiwi Před 2 měsíci +9

      @PieNumber4 if I were you I would definitely be

    • @miabaughman9772
      @miabaughman9772 Před 2 měsíci

      @@PieNumber4lmaooo so am I, it was a little startling

  • @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv
    @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv Před 2 měsíci +317

    second comment, but the wolf/scarlet romance is not furry stuff, its omegaverse stuff.

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +260

      I will not ask you to do elaborate because I don’t want to know ✊😔

    • @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv
      @Ceruleansquid-lo3iv Před 2 měsíci +43

      @@ainsleesbookclub you really do not

    • @luckyyy26
      @luckyyy26 Před 2 měsíci +113

      @@ainsleesbookclubit’s actually really uplifting to hear about people that haven’t been cursed with the knowledge of omegaverse (you’re so lucky for that)

    • @CarinaCoffee
      @CarinaCoffee Před měsícem +8

      ​@@luckyyy26 I'm now imagining the mental anguish Ainslee would go through if she were to read any werewolf/supernatural/vampire mate stories. From wattpad or published.
      Look, I'm a major fan of the fated mates trope, but there was some truly horrific stuff that even my teenage self noped the heck out of.

    • @clemintyne7898
      @clemintyne7898 Před měsícem +6

      I had to pause and reflect for awhile after they started mentioning “alphas” and “omegas” in scarlet. Genuinely made me shed a tear from memories long past.

  • @tyler-df3wy
    @tyler-df3wy Před 2 měsíci +118

    17:56 the careful avoidance of saying among us, love it

  • @d25102
    @d25102 Před 2 měsíci +236

    marissa meyer slayed heartless so hard i love that woman

    • @kurokura8379
      @kurokura8379 Před 2 měsíci +29

      that book was amazing. i'm biased because i love anything alice in wonderland related and anything tragic, but she ate with that book.

    • @freshbread4039
      @freshbread4039 Před 2 měsíci +8

      AAAUGH I loved that book so much! The ending broke my heart.

    • @LilyKing03
      @LilyKing03 Před 2 měsíci +4

      that was her!!? I loved that book haha

    • @mybirdiswierd5307
      @mybirdiswierd5307 Před 2 měsíci +5

      OH I need her to cover heartless actually it's one of my favorite books EVER

    • @KayPeterson-kikibright83
      @KayPeterson-kikibright83 Před měsícem +2

      I picked up and read Renegades before Heartless, which left me disappointed. This comment makes me feel better, because I had been considering not reading Heartless.

  • @allaroundnobody7849
    @allaroundnobody7849 Před 2 měsíci +170

    I’m surprised there was no real mention of Cress and Thorne's age gap. Cress is 16 during most of the books, while Thorne is in his 20’s. I was hardly cognizant of the fandom during its prime, but it seemed there was some discourse surrounding it seeing as Throne and Cress were also a really popular ship.
    Scarlet and Wolf's age gap is technically one year larger since Wolf is 23, but at the very least Scarlet is a consenting adult at 18 and not a minor. I truly don’t think Meyer had any ill intent, but such a big deal is made out of how “inexperienced” Cress is and Throne's whole status as this flirty and sort of womanizing rogue just _feels_ icky, especially considering how they get one of the raunchiest kisses in the series.
    They could’ve had them like maturely discussed her feelings for him? Have it be an innocent crush where he’s flattered by Cress but ultimately declines, have Cress first real rejection from a boy be like a growing moment ,,,or have him hold off until she has more experience or have her not be 16 or…something? 😭 anything?
    Addendum: will never forget the tumblr post I once read defending the Thress ship where one of the main points was faulting people and saying they were complaining from a “Western mindset” and that the age of majority/consent everywhere isn’t 18.
    Like Throne isn’t…… _LITERALLY_ from a _in universe America_ and from a story written by whom I assume to be an _American_ where the age of majority is, _infact_ , still 18. 😭
    Sure, we don’t know Lunar law and it could’ve universally lowered sometime between all those world wars, so maybe it’s technically okay but if we have to get ‘technical’ about it then I fear were missing the crux of the issue.

    • @allaroundnobody7849
      @allaroundnobody7849 Před 2 měsíci +19

      I know Thorne isn’t all that bad of a guy, and like I understand his character enough to know he and Cress really do have like,,, a connection that is more than this perceived power imbalance but like man,,, is that going to hold up in a court of law.

    • @ConfettiDragon
      @ConfettiDragon Před 2 měsíci +21

      God I forgot about that age gap. I'm just going to pretend cress is 18 when I reread these

    • @supotter377
      @supotter377 Před měsícem +5

      @@ConfettiDragonI honestly thought she was 20

    • @createdtogaze
      @createdtogaze Před měsícem +9

      I remember I reread the series and when we first meet Thorne i noticed he was 19 and thinking “wow I thought he was older” but that would’ve been worse lol. It’s weird too remembering the Disney version of rapunzel also has a big age gap of 18 vs 26

  • @fionariley8004
    @fionariley8004 Před 2 měsíci +56

    lmao i forgot how many times wolf got shot (also i've always thought that his actual name is just a sci-fi version of steve which cracks me up)

  • @francescakyanda9182
    @francescakyanda9182 Před 2 měsíci +76

    I remember being 15 and reading Winter before a final exam while listening to “Havana” on repeat, these books were the shit!

  • @eviewright5743
    @eviewright5743 Před 2 měsíci +81

    things i need to share with the people (as someone who had a hyperfixation on this series in middle school) :
    1. the book on queen levana is FUCKED UP. she had this whole like weirdly non-consensual thing with winter's dad. she also fell in love with a palace guard (just like winter). oh and the reason winter stopped using her powers is also rlly dark. like 10 year old me was not prepared.
    2. the fanart for this series in the old days was. so. weird. like looking back on it now especially the wolf stuff must have been taken over by a few very talented furries because... phew. and honestly the rest of the fanart (the non werewolf fanfiction fanart) was suuuuper white-washed.
    3. the epilogue book with a bunch of silly little tales (which i believe started as a BLOG post, get that bag miss melissa) ends with wolf and scarlet getting married. and scarlet's "something blue" is an embroidered, cursive "alpha" on her wedding dress.

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +51

      embroidered “alpha” is CRAZY oh my god

    • @ampix4669
      @ampix4669 Před 2 měsíci +24

      Oh my god the embroidered alpha is killing me (also the whole of Levana's book was waaay too dark compared to the rest of the series, like the many ways Levana abuses her step family is crazy, I did not remeber it being that dark)

    • @screamingbegins4688
      @screamingbegins4688 Před měsícem +1

      i do NOT remember the alpha thing, which story??

    • @xoxo2226
      @xoxo2226 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@screamingbegins4688it's in the book "stars above" , which is just full of bonus short stories. The short story where they get married is (I think) called "something old, something new"

    • @Hailey-bz2ym
      @Hailey-bz2ym Před 28 dny +3

      I was lowkey traumatized reading Levanas book as a kid 😭

  • @tired-moon903
    @tired-moon903 Před měsícem +23

    excellent points made, but it's important to remember that currently the Democratic Republic of Congo has an abundance of cobalt (a material used to power most of our technology in the West) but does not reap any of the benefits of that mineral. one of the few things meyer got correct (in reference to the quote at 1:13:13)

  • @mild-manneredapricot881
    @mild-manneredapricot881 Před 2 měsíci +44

    no but the way these books shaped my middle school experience? unparalleled. thank you for this video my middle school self is truly living

  • @wrtersbl0ck142
    @wrtersbl0ck142 Před 2 měsíci +41

    The way I was screaming "IT'S A BOAR!" at 1:33:59 was crazy lol anyways this video has inspired me to touch up some worldbuilding of some old characters AND was just good retelling like one would a soap opera so thank you as always for the AWESOME video!!💛💛💛Much love!!!

  • @thatrantinggirl7376
    @thatrantinggirl7376 Před 2 měsíci +52

    These books, and specifically Winter, directly led to me howling in the middle of a silent writing period during my junior high English class. I enjoyed them a lot but I’m sure they don’t hold up because I remember even as a howling dumbass child I raised my eyebrow at some parts

  • @the_sapphirerose
    @the_sapphirerose Před 2 měsíci +117

    Disclaimer that this is not me defending Meyer in any way shape or form for her worldbuilding choices (she definitely could have benefitted researching Japan's history, ESPECIALLY their war crimes which is what makes having a Japanese Emperor rule all of Asia super icky and got someone who actually knew how Chinese honorifics worked to help her out):
    I think some of the worldbuilding makes more sense if you realise that the series borrows heavily from Sailor Moon as well. We've got Cinder, who is the long lost moon princess (the first arc of the manga and anime are about the Sailor Senshi trying to find said long lost moon princess) and iirc Meyer stated fancasted her as Mew Azama who played Sailor Jupiter in the live action series. Scarlet is essentially a more impulsive Sailor Jupiter/Makoto Kino with a gun. Cress has Sailor Mercury/Ami Mizuno's tech knowledge and Anime!Sailor Venus/Minako Aino's obsession with love. And Winter is closer to Sailor Moon/Usagi Tsukino in personality than Cinder herself (who I'm struggling to make a comparison to an SM character personality-wise). Queen Levana is a Queen Beryl expy, and Kai is a Tuxedo Mask/Mamoru Chiba expy.
    Also important to note that these books were published around the time anime as a medium was starting to become more mainstream in the West than it had been previously, so I think a good chunk of the series' audience wouldn't be as aware of Sailor Moon going into these books.

    • @heathern8043
      @heathern8043 Před 2 měsíci

      This is super interesting!

    • @AttackOnAlchemist
      @AttackOnAlchemist Před 2 měsíci +19

      Yeah Marissa Meyer was also a BNF in the Sailor Moon fandom for years and a lot of her early fans were following her from her fandom work- myself included. I literally sold the lunar chronicles to friends in high school by going “so basically it’s sailor moon”. I’m not saying no thought was put into it but I will say that when I first read Cinder the sailor moon parallels were mostly what got me through and filled in any blanks.

    • @the_sapphirerose
      @the_sapphirerose Před měsícem +8

      @@AttackOnAlchemist Oh yeah there's definitely more to it than just "this is basically Sailor Moon" because there's also the fact these are mainly marketed as fairy tale retellings which was and still is quite a popular trend in YA literature (side note: I'd also argue Carson Thorne is a Han Solo expy and the Rampion is his Millennium Falcon, and Kai's android with the Lunar chip in it is an R2D2 expy so there's a dash of Star Wars in there too). After finding out that Meyer was a Sailor Moon BNF a lot of the characterisation and worldbuilding choices began to make sense for me.
      There's nothing wrong with being influenced by what you enjoy and putting it in your works. I think the issue is Meyer transplanting the Tokyo Is The Center Of The Universe trope that works for something like Sailor Moon, but when you put it into a work like The Lunar Chronicles which spans multiple real world countries, homogenising Asia as one country ruled by a Japanese monarch (or at least a monarch with a Japanese name) is when things veer into unfortunate implications territory. I don't think she was entirely aware of these implications (I think she just wanted a marketable diverse cast of girls that could kick ass and still fall in love which is fair), but it's still something worth discussing.

  • @v-t-holmes
    @v-t-holmes Před 2 měsíci +18

    i read this book series during the height of the pandemic for the first time, imagine my reaction when the plague got brought up for the first time and then my reaction to how it kept being brought up
    genuinely one of my favourite takes on fairy tale retellings, it's so cool to me to see a sci-fi one when most of the stuff tends to be modern-day america leaning
    even if not without fault i do like that meyer went out of her way to make the protags and their love interests come from several different places, instead of making them all be from the usa

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +2

      oop definitely an interesting time to read it
      seriously as a lowkey retellings hater, i loved this one even more for those elements. it felt so fresh being sci-fi, esp when it came out in like peak YA dystopian era, and so many retellings were of the generic fantasy variety (nothing wrong w that though they just weren't my taste and were hard to distinguish). also while it clearly had flaws and it doesn't excuse those, yeah same, it stood out to me even when younger how among so many white protagonists and america-centered stories that this had other nationalities and ethnicities

  • @sn00ziaaa
    @sn00ziaaa Před 2 měsíci +102

    YESS I LOVE THE LUNAR CHRONICLES

  • @tashabeck4121
    @tashabeck4121 Před měsícem +11

    “The craziest twist” that was possibly one of the most obvious twists I’ve ever encountered. There’s a long lost princess that got sent to earth where she is and this girl is seemingly from this other planet with no memory of it and things just seem to work out for her? I truly wonder 🥴😂😂 I was literally sitting there waiting like okay when are they telling me

  • @tinof23beans
    @tinof23beans Před 2 měsíci +67

    Just gonna drop a random, mildly interesting fact: it's cool that the Lunar princess was called Selene, because in Greek mythology, the original goodness of the moon (who developed more into a human personification of the moon as the myths developed) was called Selene.

    • @imateakettle
      @imateakettle Před měsícem +10

      the one cultural thing she got right 😭

  • @lauramathews3151
    @lauramathews3151 Před 2 měsíci +41

    The Sahara has never been solved. We fly over it, but mostly around, and yep camels are still better.

  • @gwendolynrobinson3900
    @gwendolynrobinson3900 Před 2 měsíci +25

    Wouldnt be mad if you went back and also covered Fairest and Stars Above 👀❤️
    The way this series had a CHOKEHOLD on me in middle school, i think i started reading RIGHT when Cress came out so i remember the anticipation waiting for Winter, Fairest, and Stars Above to come out. I have the whole series, except for SA which I think I lost 😭
    I'm so glad we can talk about these nostalgic series both critically and lovingly ❤

  • @wolfgirl535
    @wolfgirl535 Před 2 měsíci +29

    Seems like it would've made more sense to have Winter be princess Selene. Within the logic of the story, sure, Winter hasn't been taught how to rule, but neither had Cinder, and Winter at least has lived there her whole life. Theoretically she'd understand the needs of the people better. While Cinder could've also been a lunar princess, by left the moon to rule beside Kai. It just feels like Winter has very little agency or stakes in the story beyond "I don't want to die." At the end, it sounds like she'll end up in exactly the same place she was previously, so not much has changed for her. Beyond having a boyfriend, I suppose.

    • @Kip.Barlow
      @Kip.Barlow Před 19 dny +2

      She was also like literally crazy and that may have impaired her ability to rule........... just a thought

  • @trueMAXIMUS
    @trueMAXIMUS Před měsícem +13

    i have never even heard of this series before but i sat my ass down and LISTENED

  • @kairi99roxas
    @kairi99roxas Před 2 měsíci +125

    Gotta be the one to point out the Beijing is a huge global center of business, so someone not Chinese living there is NOT inherently racist. (The other stuff sure whatever)

    • @lunafowler5736
      @lunafowler5736 Před 2 měsíci +58

      I don't think it's inherently racist on its own but I think in the context of her merging all of Africa into one country as well, it kind of gives the vibe like she wasn't considering any of the nuances of the nationalities of primarily POC countries. Especially since she did explicitly name France and England as well, and how French people seemed like they were distinguished as their own nationality within the country of Europe still as opposed to being part of a larger European nationality. So I think considering those things, it is kind of feels like she wasn't really thinking about how there are different kinds of east Asian people.

  • @marchforth3515
    @marchforth3515 Před 2 měsíci +12

    as someone with chronic illness, i always took the cyborg narrative to reference other disabled people. I did try to reread it and had to stop bc of the ableism being so similar to real life’s

  • @afull375
    @afull375 Před 2 měsíci +59

    The video came out last night and I was listening to it on the way home and then all of the sudden it was unavailable, very happy it back, it’s like 3 times longer now so I assume that’s why it wasn’t available, and I’m sat

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +67

      lol sorry about that my computer and I were having a fight because it straight up wasn’t uploading 75% of the video? and during pride month no less honesty it’s just rude

    • @urfavvv
      @urfavvv Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lol😂.
      Really rude

    • @afull375
      @afull375 Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@ainsleesbookclub I was so sad lol but I’m glad you won your battle and I can listen to cinder making really dumb decisions again 🥰

    • @universal_stupidity
      @universal_stupidity Před 2 měsíci +6

      @@ainsleesbookclub the video was too powerful CZcams decided it must be contained

  • @Partyhatpossum
    @Partyhatpossum Před 2 měsíci +50

    I have been anticipating your return in a way that should be studied by psychologists

  • @emmabales3468
    @emmabales3468 Před 2 měsíci +74

    I looooove your videos. I think you would hate Fourth Wing. I'm reading it right now and despise it.

    • @rae3781
      @rae3781 Před 2 měsíci +19

      That book inspires me so much as a writer. Not because it's good but because if that can be traditionally publishes, my writing can.

    • @justjake5963
      @justjake5963 Před měsícem +1

      Same, only Tairn and Andarna keep me there

  • @marybear93
    @marybear93 Před 2 měsíci +55

    YAY, I'm so happy for a new video!! And two hours?! You have spoiled us all 💖

  • @tragicallyfrankie
    @tragicallyfrankie Před 2 měsíci +28

    THE WAY I WAS GONNA REREAD THE SERIES AND THIS DROPS

  • @espighty
    @espighty Před 2 měsíci +104

    The thing that consistently irked me the most about YA novels (and still bothers me to this day) is that EVERY main character ALWAYS has to have a love interest inserted into the story. As a child who read way too many books, I very quickly caught onto this pattern and got supremely sick of it. I read Cinder, and I picked up the sequel, but once I saw the new protagonist got a love interest of her own, I immediately put it down. So now, hearing the entire series recap, it's kind of vindicating to see that this trend of "every important female in the story needs a boyfriend!" continued. Makes me feel like I was right to put the book down, because now I KNOW I wouldn't have (personally) had fun with it. Your video was far more entertaining than the book could have been. 👍

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +9

      yeah something about how often the cast of characters in these series perfectly paired off into relationships, whether within to other members or in general all found the "love of their life", always makes me roll my eyes a little lol. i will say, not to defend lunar chronicles, but bc it's twists on fairy tales it's slightly more acceptable to me for some reason (?) that each book introduces two major characters in line w the retelling that fit the "princess"/"prince roles". maybe i'm biased bc ngl young me did like the series and 2/3 couples in the ones i got to, and i had fun picking out nods to the OG and the who's who, then how knowing that could foreshadow. (also wasn't rly with it enough to notice or be bothered like i now would lol)
      and maybe i'm jaded and think it'd be too much to expect a YA series from that time to subvert the fairy tales enough to have "princesses" that don't need their respective prince, esp when it's still so common for every protagonist to have a happening love life lmao. but there def were ways to either just not lol, or even make character appear to be the "prince" but in a twist, that role in the story is filled differently than expected, or something where they don't have to all end coupled up in their happily ever after
      anyway sorry that was long, just thought you made an interesting point! didn't think of when reading, but now i def see it

    • @espighty
      @espighty Před 2 měsíci +10

      @@gracesull78756 I suppose it's a far easier trope to pick up on if you are alienated by it like I was.
      Good point about the fairy tale aspect, but I wouldn't even give it a 100% pass for that either. The original red riding hood story doesn't have a prince! Maybe there's a huntsman in certain tellings, but I never remember him being anything near a love interest (correct me if I'm wrong about that). Which made the whole Scarlet and Wolf thing stick out past that fairytale excuse.

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +5

      @@espighty yeah definitely, i think it's much easier to see clearly from afar, hence why i also see it better now i'm more removed from it. and ohhhh so true, that's a fair point actually, i must've kinda forgotten he's the wolf and therefore there was no need for them to be together (and that dynamic just had issues iirc and i did not like them together bc even then it was kinda weird). ik he definitely would've been defending her against other mutants/whatever-they-were-called but even if he was more of a huntsman type doesn't mean he's necessarily the LI. i can't remember what story it is where i vaguely remember a huntsman type character that is a love interest for a red riding hood, but idk you're right it's not common.
      alright nvm w the fairy tales lol, i agree it doesn't get a full pass even still, but i overlooked that haha my bad. the others follow it, but i think book 2 going rouge does kinda show it wasn't for posterity or getting to use elements of the fairy tale, it was flat out just a creative decision by the author. in which case, i stand corrected, and yeah looking back having 8 main characters who all match into a relationship is ... unnecessary

    • @Anne-ks6wq
      @Anne-ks6wq Před 2 měsíci +2

      it’s giving winx 😩

    • @pheonixrises11
      @pheonixrises11 Před 2 měsíci +10

      I remember feeling so alienated by romance being in every sinngle book because I’m on the asexual aromantic spectrum. seemed like books were saying it was an essential human experience, which made me feel… inhuman.

  • @Lee-ek7vn
    @Lee-ek7vn Před 2 měsíci +46

    Ok but these books were really my bridgerton as a kid like yes their politics are rough but omg the romance and the tension it was so bad but little me thought it was the best thing I had ever read. These books will always have a special place in my heart lmao. I think if they recalled some of the less great politics in the books and fixed the different countries layout, they could make a really good series or movie saga especially with the modern effects they could use for glamor and luna

  • @RocketNinjaSlap
    @RocketNinjaSlap Před 2 měsíci +102

    "There seems to be no effort being made [to stop this plague]. It's been fifteen years!" Yeah, and governments (plus most people) have been letting COVID-19 run rampant for basically the last five.

    • @theflickchick9850
      @theflickchick9850 Před 2 měsíci +32

      Yup. We are still in a pandemic and no one cares.

    • @monkeymamaa
      @monkeymamaa Před 2 měsíci +7

      There are vaccines though 😅

    • @pheonixrises11
      @pheonixrises11 Před 2 měsíci

      so far it seems like covid is going to be like the flu where you have to get a vaccine every year

  • @manicpixie7024
    @manicpixie7024 Před 2 měsíci +28

    FUCK YEAH also I remember reading the Scarlett book and being SOOOOOO upset about the omega beta alpha wrong information I kept whitening those words and replacing them with different ones . . THESE BOOKS ARE MEANT TO BE IN THE FUTURE AND THE AUTHOR COULDN'T EVEN MAKE AURE TO FACT CHECK THE WILDLY DISPROVEN (BY ITS OWN CREATOR) WOLF INFORMATION AAAAAA (I go into super sayan mode out of rage) anyways now I'll watch the video just had to say my piece

    • @ene66
      @ene66 Před měsícem +1

      Is this not a/b/o? So less Andrew Tate and more fanfic dynamics?

    • @manicpixie7024
      @manicpixie7024 Před měsícem

      @@ene66 I mean sure, but Scarlett *googled* the a/b/o thing SPECIFICALLY for real life wolves, and then got said information as a fact,in the book, which would imply that in the future world people have reapproved a/b/o FOR REAL WOLVES , LIKE THE ANIMAL?.? So yeah, big dislike on that, since it’s bs, also, big not fan of fanfic a/b/o anyways, so I was getting hit from both ends lol

    • @ene66
      @ene66 Před měsícem

      @@manicpixie7024 did she say that? Maybe she secretly reads a/b/o ffs

    • @manicpixie7024
      @manicpixie7024 Před měsícem

      @@ene66 ??? In the book She explicitly looked up on the internet if *real life actual wolves* have the a/b/o thing. So yes. It was explicitly stated in the book that a/b/o for *real life actual animal wolves, not the human man she is travelling with* is a thing. Which it isn’t. It’s been disproven by its original creator. Idk what you’re reading from my first response that made you say ‘she secretly reads it’ when this isn’t about Scarlett reading maybe a/b/o fanfic????? Or the author?.??? Idk or care if either of those ‘secretly read’ a/b/o fanfic, I’m just saying that I, personally, was annoyed by seeing the wrong information being spread around as fact in a book that for all intents and purposes is more sci-fi with its themes than fantasy. Is that a nitpick? Maybe! But it’s my opinion
      Have a good day

    • @ene66
      @ene66 Před měsícem

      @@manicpixie7024 I meant the author, since you criticized her for the use of outdated terminology. So guess I misunderstood you

  • @keri7154
    @keri7154 Před 2 měsíci +24

    Omg bless you lol I ate these books UP as a 20-something but I never finished the series 💀This is everything I didn't know I needed

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +2

      i never finished either bc while ik i was excitedly anticipating the release of the last one, somehow never got around to it- now 21 and in the years since i often remember how much they had me by the throat yet i never finished 😭 every so often i consider going back to finally get closure this time lol

  • @graysondagent7721
    @graysondagent7721 Před měsícem +5

    ngl i always saw these books in every library, and every bookstore. And now I'm SO happy that I never was possessed enough to pick these up. My sister read these and she was like, 'yeah... no'

  • @AdelynSanders
    @AdelynSanders Před 2 měsíci +25

    I really love your videos, really just barely controlled chaos

  • @lecheflam1311
    @lecheflam1311 Před 2 měsíci +22

    I wonder how this held up bc these books were the SHIT in my middle school yrs
    edit: finished this video and my god yes!! i loved this recap so much!! glad u talked abt some of the more unsavory parts (which definitely slipped my mind as a preteen) but im genuinely shocked how well this held up? had it up there w/ some of my other faves (six of crows, hunger games, etc) and to hear it coming from someone around the same age/same mindset felt so validating for my younger self LOL. thanks again for the video!!

  • @buttercroissant5018
    @buttercroissant5018 Před 2 měsíci +41

    HELL YEAH I LOVE THIS SERIES

  • @iyapalot55
    @iyapalot55 Před 2 měsíci +53

    ah my favorite background noise: people reviewing books for two hours

  • @Cosmicbookworm
    @Cosmicbookworm Před 2 měsíci +10

    I know it was like not a good time, but I just remember SCREAMING when Thorne finally kissed Cress in Winter… l was WAITING for that

  • @yourlocalliz2125
    @yourlocalliz2125 Před 2 měsíci +25

    i needed this so bad rn, and MY FAVORITE YA SERIES???

  • @sarajoyelle
    @sarajoyelle Před 2 měsíci +10

    literally have read one book series in my life because i cannot commit to series yet i love to hear you talk about a series for 2 hours

  • @eddisianc8639
    @eddisianc8639 Před 2 měsíci +37

    I love this book club. We read the best books. ❤

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +13

      only the best for the shitty book club besties 🫶🫶

  • @loreleirieken1061
    @loreleirieken1061 Před měsícem +3

    Will you please do Unwind??? I'm actually obsessed and thw concepts are super cool. It also has the dumb YA type of writing that's really fun.

  • @rx500android
    @rx500android Před 2 měsíci +7

    I mean, I get everything you’re saying, but Cinder will forever have a special place in my heart

  • @James3_1999
    @James3_1999 Před 2 měsíci +10

    I’m so happy to see you posted, I have 3 videos to catch up on now :)) I know it’s a trauma dump but in December my bedroom caught fire and I literally lost everything (no one was hurt thankfully) and I was absolutely devastated obviously, I can’t remember much from the weeks after but I think of your selection videos often and feel weirdly nostalgic. I felt really empty and just so sad, I literally only had the clothes from my washing machine and the big T-shirt and thong I was wearing when the hot firemen came to save the day lol. I watched your videos on my mums bedroom floor whilst I sorted through bags of clothes people had given me, I didn’t want to talk to anyone about anything so you kept me company , you really helped me so thank you :))

    • @James3_1999
      @James3_1999 Před 2 měsíci +3

      I’m all good now though, probably should’ve said that, lots of people donated money and my people were supportive, I have clothes and trinkets again, woooo

    • @ainsleesbookclub
      @ainsleesbookclub  Před 2 měsíci +5

      im so sorry you’re going through that, but im glad my videos were able to bring some levity ❤️❤️

    • @James3_1999
      @James3_1999 Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@ainsleesbookclub thank you :)) it’s ok, I’m happy again and everything is working out so don’t feel sorry for me, I just wanted you to know that you’ve had a really positive impact on at least one persons life with your videos :)) I hope you’re having a lovely day!! 🫶🏻

  • @loraelizabeth7580
    @loraelizabeth7580 Před 2 měsíci +4

    I like that the love confessions happened in reverse order in the last book. I just love the symmetry of it.

  • @owenklus8216
    @owenklus8216 Před 2 měsíci +42

    I GASPED WHEN I SAW THE VIDEO TITLE!!! YES!!! I LOVED THAT SERIES

  • @someoneunknown7655
    @someoneunknown7655 Před měsícem +3

    I tried reading this series but the mcs were so stupid sometimes and the romance got so boring that I had to stop for my own mental wellbeing, which sucked because I really wanted to know the rest of the story. Thanks for summarizing it so I can finally finish the series

  • @dracaramel2
    @dracaramel2 Před 2 měsíci +10

    watching this in parts because my attention span sucks, but i wanted to comment saying i really vibe with your humour!! YA as a genre is so much fun despite it's many (many, many) flaws and i appreciate how casually you bring up the critical thinking parts of this recap. i read these in my late teens and despite literally being south asian i honestly didn't think much of the world-building (critical thinking is very much a learned skill...). and then remembering these books as an adult is like. damn. what the fuck was this author thinking? was there not a single person of colour on her editing/publishing team??
    anyways, excited to watch the rest of this!

    • @dracaramel2
      @dracaramel2 Před 2 měsíci +4

      and the lack of infrastructure in the "country" of africa omg? it's wild to me that the author named specific cities but apparently forgot to google what modern-day cities in egypt/libya look like

  • @mckenna_L_
    @mckenna_L_ Před 2 měsíci +15

    You’re with me while I’m at work so thank you for helping me ignore my coworkers

  • @ohnoits
    @ohnoits Před 2 měsíci +9

    This plot is SO FUN!! I will be rereading this series for sure, with a more critical eye this time

  • @FightingMarsh
    @FightingMarsh Před 2 měsíci +7

    Im so excited for another chronicles video!! I watch your twilight and 50 shades videos so often I can quote them word for word lmao. Wonderful job as always 💕💕

  • @Julia-se2kw
    @Julia-se2kw Před 2 měsíci +4

    I honestly really loved this video! I came across these books when I was in middle school (I’m now a senior in college) and I just never picked them up bc I wasn’t into the space, sci-fi themes (even though I LOVED fairy tale retellings). Listening to you recap the series made me feel like I actually DID read these books in middle school, and I feel oddly nostalgic for this series even though I have never read any of the books before! I might actually start reading this series to see if it would have been something I liked in middle school!

    • @gracesull78756
      @gracesull78756 Před 2 měsíci +1

      omg i'm now a senior in college and came across them in middle school too, but i was the EXACT opposite of you bc i typically stayed far away from retellings but loved sci-fi and that was what drew me in 😭that's so funny to me, honestly they make me so nostalgic bc even though i was obsessed i never read the last one and every few years i consider rereading them to finally finish and get the closure my middle school self never did
      (also honestly if you like retellings, that was a rly high point of these imo, seeing pieces of the og with a unique twist and how the parts of the fairy tales are fulfilled in sometimes unexpected ways was so cool and satisfying. also side note, but the way the diff character plotlines start to interconnect was mind blowing, and from what i remember i think it still holds up bc it was genuinely so satisfying as well seeing it all come together. don't get me wrong, it has problems for sure, but the story could still be enjoyable for what it is)

  • @poorvaja2763
    @poorvaja2763 Před 2 měsíci +16

    i read this when i was 17. i dont care what people say. my 24 year old ass can still re-read this shit and ill eat it up. these books give me nostalgic feeling. i love them.

  • @LegendWings
    @LegendWings Před 2 měsíci +8

    Read these in late high school/early college and I revisit them on audio book at least once a year - they're my chicken noodle soup books, and I'll always have a soft spot for them 🥰

  • @soappsoappp
    @soappsoappp Před 2 měsíci +10

    oh this was the series that got me into my middle school reading addiction im so exited,,,,,,, its been like 7 year oh shit

  • @Andromeda_at_Sea
    @Andromeda_at_Sea Před 2 měsíci +5

    I steamrolled my way through this entire series in one week and it just so happened to be the week before COVID shutdowns in my state! Which was an experience for sure

  • @Maarttii
    @Maarttii Před 2 měsíci +7

    also hey kai. empathy for cyborgs everywhere but I'd like some self reflection on how you let a woman get functionally the death penalty because you didn't feel like she was being very honest with you djfksj like it's just hard to find the romance in a situation where she was in prison and then on the run because he was MAD at her.

  • @haymaker-mva
    @haymaker-mva Před 2 měsíci +3

    i was obsessed with these books in elementary 😭😭 i’ve continued to keep up with marissa meyer honestly and i still like her recent stuff. crazy to refresh this series though and realize its flaws that completely missed me when i was younger

  • @user-ui9op5vo3i
    @user-ui9op5vo3i Před 2 měsíci +14

    YESSS. Bro this day has been sooooo boring 😭 I’ve needed a video to put on in the background to finish a painting. 🧎‍♀️‍➡️🧎‍♀️‍➡️🧎‍♀️‍➡️

  • @hellogoditsmesara3569
    @hellogoditsmesara3569 Před měsícem +3

    I loved the lunar chronicle as a kid
    A lot of it did revolve around cinder being Chinese so thinking about them critically makes me cry

  • @wooogie672
    @wooogie672 Před 2 měsíci +7

    god this series is such a throwback 😭😭

  • @finner_1415
    @finner_1415 Před 2 měsíci +6

    1:49 I’m literally an international affairs major with a focus on Asian politics and history. I verbally went “Oh!” hearing this.

  • @missamvmaker
    @missamvmaker Před 2 měsíci +11

    I loved this book series omg

    • @missamvmaker
      @missamvmaker Před 2 měsíci +2

      watching now - oh my god holy racism in the country/world building omg!

  • @rynrose83
    @rynrose83 Před měsícem +1

    I’ll rewatch this when I’m sober for sure, right now I’m just enjoying the pleasant confusing noise ❤