The birth and destruction of the Cleveland Cavaliers needs a deep rewind | CHOSEN: Chapter 1
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- Welcome to Chapter 1 of CHOSEN. Chapter 2 releases July 3.
To appreciate the Cleveland Cavaliers' incredible 2016 NBA Finals comeback, we need to rewind ... to the beginning. Let's examine how a fun expansion team from the 1970s met its doom at the hands of one of the most absurd, reckless owners in sports history.
Directed by Jiazhen Zhang
Written and produced by Seth Rosenthal
Art direction by Michael Das and Phil Pasternak
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Welp, it's finally here. Hope you enjoy and chapter two will drop in two weeks
Thank you
Once you're done with the Cleveland Cavaliers, do one on the St Louis Blues and the history of their franchise before they won their first Stanley Cup.
LONG LIVE WEED
Rewind leicester title win
Love this style of the important moments each getting a rewinder type episode, excited to see what others are planned (maybe philadelphia?)
Can't wait for the vikings to get this cause I promise I will watch it once a day
Donald Sterling: I’m the worst owner of all time.
Ted Stepien: Hold my softballs.
Harold Ballard.
@@samortmann5003 How about the worst NBA Owner?
Donald Sterling: Ow my wrist broke
Harold Ballard: That's nothing. Have you heard about the pedophile ring I had at my stadium for two decades?
@@jackmanley1473 The what?! Looks like I need to watching Urinatingtree’s video again, cause I think I missed that part.
That coach who said “until 2003” needs a statue
The irony behind it all bro 🤯
@@SaintShaun it’s honestly crazy
pretty sure that's a time traveler
He was a psychic. Unbelievable
@@Por-poI has to be, how tf did he nail the exact year ?!😂
Not a Cavs fan, but gosh I love this already and it just started.
I am a cavs fan and this series really has showed me how dysfunctional of a franchise we are without lebron
@@benjaminstoessner5899 same for us but without KG
fr bro
No one is
I have a feeling you'll be even less of a fan by the end
BRUH gave up TWO first round picks for someone he cut from the team in under 3 weeks. WILD.
so crazy they just cut him
i cant imagine that happening today, literally billy king times 10 level of BAD
Cav's gave up 2 first round PLUS former first rounder PF Bill Robinzine who scored 14.00 PPG that next season for Dallas. This is most insane trade in Sports History. and makes the Hershal Walker trade reasonable.
@Harry Engel Depends on what sport. In the NBA a dominate player like Lebron or Giannis can instantly make your franchise a contender. In the NFL only QB's can make a franchise a contender. So Aaron Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes are worth 3 first rounders but no RB is.
@Eilliw Nodrog No Question Brady is a winner but for flat out Elite QB play Brady has and never will be on Mahomes or Rodgers level. Brady is the Modern Day Bart Starr or Joe Montana. Best QB on the Best team.
And it drops on the 5 year anniversary too… perfect
You smell
And look at what had to happen, injury and suspension - there was NO WAY Cleveland would've won without those Injuries to the Warriors ... *NBA Champions.
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 same can be said abou 2015
@@SuperOmnicronsj44 5 years and you are still that mad for the Cavs' greatest championship of all time and the 73-9 Warriors choking, after already acquiring an asterisk the year before against Lebron and the lottery.
YOU SEALS ARE SO SIMPLE
when you hear the name ¨stephien" and realize ur about to learn why you cant trade multiple unprotected 1st round picks in 2k
oh my. I'm just realising
He was in there changing the game 😂
You can trade multiple unprotected firsts; they just can't be your own picks back to back.
@@jameslearing970 Yep. Even then, you can do it if you have another first round pick either the first year or the second year in question on you.
@@jameslearing970 You can also trade pick swaps, as long as you keep at least one first-rounder. The Nets/Celtics trade worked that way (see 2017, when Boston got the 1st pick, traded it to Philadelphia, turned it into Jayson Tatum with the 3rd pick, and Brooklyn ended up with Kyle Kuzma at 27.)
There's also nothing stopping you trading a player you just drafted on draft night even if trading the pick slot before the draft would've violated the rule. Kuzma would've been an example, but since Brooklyn got the 22nd pick (who turned into Jarrett Allen) as a lottery-protected from the Wizards earlier in 2017 (which they ended up using when the Wiz made the '17 playoffs), the rule didn't apply there.
NBA trades are weird.
"...tough for the Cavs to improve with no draft picks until 2003."
Interesting.
It was destined
The luck the Cavs have had (draft wise) is equal to none
That threw me 😂😂.
What did he know???
@@twinkieafternoon Cleveland selects LeBron that year
THIS. This is exactly what we needed. Longer and more detailed videos is exactly what you guys are the best at. Can't wait to see part 2 and the other stuff you guys will be working on!
Yup, I look forward to them making more long form videos. With other narrators too, the girl's not bad.
I agree. The 10 minute videos are nice but long, careful recaps are just so cozy and enjoyable.
@@kermitfrog593911
So let's see here:
-incomprehensible management decisions;
-bizarre taste in entertainment;
-lashes out at even minor criticisms;
-probably at least a little bit racist;
Ted Stepien is just an older, even less competent Vince McMahon.
Yup. And without the writers and creative team to save his ass like Vince had in the 90s.
"YOU'RE FIIIIIIRRRRRRED!!!!"
Vince has turned the WWE from a circus to a billion dollar enterprise with a network. His management decisions weren't that incomprehensible.
@@anthonyroundtree5 Incomprehensible creative decisions would be more accurate. Vince is a ruthless businessman.
Trump?
I always thought Stepien was an owner for at least a decade, not just three years. To leave so much destruction in your wake in only three seasons is astounding.
His fine crafting of roster lasted far longer then 3 years he is a true inspiration
The early success of the expansion Dallas Mavericks is largely attributable to Ted.
I'm a huge warriors fan that was so salty when the Cavs won - but now that I've had space it's impossible to deny how much the Cavs deserved that win for the poetry/story alone
You deserve 1 million likes for that comment not gonna cap I’ll give you one 😂😂😂
One of the greatest sports moments of all time.
Either one wining would’ve been amazing. Cleveland for their history and the Warriors for capping off the greatest season of all time (73-9 record, unanimous mvp, dpoy, coach of the year, etc.) Also can’t imagine how things might’ve been different. Especially considering KD’s fate
@@hollister2320 Ironically, losing probably extended the GSW dynasty. I think the league would've caught up with GSW if they didn't get to reload with KD.
Then again, maybe KD would've found his way on the 2016-2017 Warriors anyway.
Man that chip is tarnished the commissioner had to step in and suspend draymond so that cavs could win
Can we take a second and acknowledge one of the greatest names ever? *Foots Walker*
@Aventis Avalanche Don’t forget about the OG, Hands Touch, Bill Russell didn’t stand a chance against him.
I just love the fact that this was released in during the 5th anniversary of the Cavs championship. Great timing, SB!!
Almost like they did it on purpose 🤔😂 !! Just kidding … I would agree
Surely a massive group that does sports documentaries has a calendar. You think they maybe posted today on purpose or are you just more clever than everyone else?
As a Cavs fan I cried when we won the 2016 ring the greatest moment in cleevland sports history
It was the second time I ever saw my dad shed tears in front of me. Real special time man.
Well, if all goes well for the Browns this moment may be dethroned..
I sat in a bar in Gainesville, Fl and cried.
i cant believe James delivered that! i mean that is not supposed to happen 👏🏽
Same man, I still remember jumping around the living room with my mom when it all went down
Just when you thought Dan Gilbert is a bad owner…
Stepien lad here eerily reminded me of Harold Ballard, "the charming, favorite granpa" of Toronto Maple Leaf lol
Fr
@@ruttedpanda7884 Jerry Jones just entered the chat.. The Guy basically hire people to not do their jobs so he can do it for them..
They’re all bad doggos?
So that’s where the Stepien rule comes from, the thing that always annoys me in franchise mode on 2K.
Yes. It's also why you see on draft night, things like "Portland has selected (name), but they're doing it for Phoenix."
@Harvey Newcomb yeah I know but sometimes I forget at the start & then it’s just a pain in the ass
@@Elia_9400 you can disable it mid franchise
Bro Ted Stepien owned the cavs for 2 years 🤣🤣🤣. That felt like 2 decades 💀
Kyrie's three-pointer at the end never fails to give me chills!
Lebron's block right before that was the turning point.
Ya The block is 1000× better,
"oh, block by james!"
My God...
Can you imagine a team with Drexler, Barkley, and Malone all in their primes? Jordan wouldn't have had a chance in Hell.
Idk, Barkley and Malone played the Sam position..
@@Starias5 Barkely could've played the three.
This video is mostly about how hard the Cavs had it, but that part made me sick for Mavs fans.
@@preston6425 Bulls in the 90s were the only team that embraced “small ball” with Kukoc and Rodman.
@@Starias5 Still could have worked.
Man until 2016 the Cavs could have made the case over the Mariners as the most cursed team
Also the Cubs😂
Is it a cruse if they mostly did it to themselves?
@@b.w.8909 oh shoot yeah the Cubs by a mile
Homie it’s the clippers
@@aidanflynn2037 Clippers just made the Conference Finals. I’d personally say the Pacers.
Beef History: Gilbert Arenas vs javaris crittenton (the gun in the locker room incident).
THIS
Based on what Arenas has said about it, it wasn’t a malicious confrontation, so I don’t think there was any actual beef
@@socialistbatman1211 I know what you mean but I struggle to imagine guns thrown out in a manner like a Let's Sort This Out Fam 🙏🙏🙏
What’s crazy about that story is that now it’s looking like that was Javaris Crittendon’s villain origin story
@@kgizzle92 Yeah, I read he accidently shot a mother of four when he was trying to shoot someone else.
28:30 this is soo damn eerie, i swear😂 could've just said 2000 as an example but nope, he chose the best draft in franchise history
Fun fact: the person who invented the cavaliers name was the father of a Major League Baseball player
That is fun.
Did…. Did they play for the Mariners?
@@ndonegan1558 the players name was Brett tomko I think
@Nick Donegan Yep! I know that cause Jon and Kofie once brought up his name in the fumble dimension episode on the 2001 Mariners
@@mattmurphy5805 just researched: it was Jerry Tomko - who was the father of - Brett Tomko, who did indeed play for the Seattle Mariners in their 2000-2001 seasons.
This. Freaking. Team.
When this project is over we need
Collapse: how the 2010/11 Texas rangers that won 2 pennants went up in smoke
Rewinder: the miracle at Istanbul
Collapse: How a legendary AC Milan team that won the champions league broke apart
Untitled: Ted Williams
Collapse: How the 1990s Buffalo bills broke apart into nearly 20 years of mediocrity after 4 straight Super bowl appearances
Collapse: how the Montreal canadiens for the longest time (could happen this year) never again reached sniffing distance of Lord Stanley
Collapse: how the Arsenal went from mighty premier league club to 10th place in the league
Beef history: Real Madrid vs Barcelona
Rewinder: the ending of the bills giants super bowl
Bills collapse would be legendary
Arsenal haven’t been near relegation since the Premier leagues inception, worst we’ve placed is 10th.
We need sedin twins untitled/collapse, and a beef History for Terry Bradshaw and Chuck noll.
Wow.
Rewinder- Hornets Celtics 1993
Video Ideas:
Collapse: How the Atlanta Falcons were up 28-3 in the Superbowl, to where they are at...now.
Collapse: How the Tennessee Titans were one yard from winning the Superbowl.
Rewinder: How the Cleveland Browns WALLOPED the Pittsburgh Steelers at Heinz Field after the longest playoff drought in the NFL.
Rewinder: How the Tampa Bay Lightning redeemed themselves from playoff woes and went onto win the Stanley Cup.
His name was Foots Walker? That’s like a dude being named Hands Grabber, I love it
From Cleveland here. The day of game 7 was the strangest day ever. Quiet, only subtle conversations, everyone was scared. The city became came alive and is still cherished till today.
Let’s do a deep rewind of
2021 AFC Wildcard Browns at Steelers
Also known as: “The Snap”
The snap that broke the yinzers back
I'd love that as a ravens fan, but they need to do mile high miracle first.
NO
@@lcgw959901 I'm a Steelers fan but would absolutely love to see the browns make the Superbowl
@@austin5944 how are you a Steelers fan then. I’m a browns fan and I hope you guys never win another game lol
One of the best stories in recent sports history
Top 5 stories in recent sports history:
5. 28-3
4. Agueroooooooooo!
3. Cleveland Cavaliers
2. 46,377 punts
1. Seattle Mariners
@@freddier5376 46,377 punts? what is that
@@bringinthedope5929 the masterpiece of Jon Bois: the search for the saddest punt in the world
Leicester 5000-1 to win the 15/16 Premier League season
Am I the only one who thought of Mr. Burns dropping silver dollars during the story of Stepien dropping softballs onto a crowd below?
Whenever I've heard about how the Lakers ended up with the #1 pick (and James Worthy) right after winning the title, I've always heard it was Stepien. Learned something new today. Love the video, can't wait for the rest of the series and keep up the good work.
Possibly the best team to receive a number one pick in sports history
This should be turned into a movie and released on Netflix.
Fun Institutional Racism Fact: I'm a lifelong Mavs fan. In the 1986 Draft the Mavs were highly expected to pick Karl Malone with Cleveland's #7 overall pick. However, Mavs' GM Norm Sonju nixed it, saying the team needed more white players. Thus, the Detlef Schrempf pick. The Mavs lived (benefited) from racism and they died by racism.
Luk, Kristaps, and Dirk would like a word
@@LemurJackson We're talking about the 1980's, dumbass.
To be fair, Schempf had a very good career, but yeah that was a bad one.
I got goosebumps at the beginning, not even a cavs fan but game 7 of the 2016 finals was a moment in sports I won’t soon forget.
This is amazing, yet the best thing about it is that it’s not Jon’s project, which means we still got something even bigger coming 😈
If you were to pick another team for the next "Chosen" series, I see a lot of similarities between the Cleveland Cavaliers and Washington Capitals:
- Both Founded in the 1970s
- Both Waited Nearly 50 Years for Their First Title
- Both Drafted a Generational Superstar in the Early 2000s
- Both Choked Relentlessly for Decades
Or the suns
or in the NFL, the Buccaneers...
Or the astros, they had a bunch of draft busts right before they won it all for the first time
@Matt Murphy Not sure if many people will be fans of that deep rewinder?
Remember with the cheating scandal people will only be saying their should be an asterisk for that video
I'd definitely like to see a series with teams breaking long title droughts. The 94' Rangers, the 04' Red Sox, the '10 Blackhawks, the '18 Capitals and '19 Blues, along with the 18' Eagles and '16 Cubs
13:11 "White people have to have white heroes" I'm gonna be honest, it looks like you highlighted the most innocuous part of that paragraph. Boy did he just keep on digging...
lol you're not wrong
Donald Sterling: "Let's hear him out, guys."
jesus christ wtf lol
Don't black people say, "black people need black heros?"
What's wrong with making half the squad white? The Academy will soon require a certain % of diversity in a movie for it to be considered for an Oscar nomination.
Seth is the best host for this, forever and always.
I just realized that we’re almost 1/10th of the way to the next Cleveland championship! Nice!
I was raised right outside cle and when they won my town shut down for 3 days, nothing but partying and celebrating. Meant the world to us
Yeah man. Literally the whole damn world. It was amazing.
I find it ironic that literally they mention the 2003 draft in 1982 or 1983 mentioning how it would be tough for the Cavaliers to win a championship before that point and that the 2003 draft is when their fortunes will turn. Lebron was not even born yet!
That's because it's all scripted. Research gematria
Great job, good research (especially calling WWWE the right name: “Three W E.”).
But what about World B. Free? They even retired his jersey. No mention?
brief mention near the end there, and World will get a bit of love in Chapter 2!
and thank you!!!! (this is Seth, hi)
@@SecretBaseSBN Hey Seth, CAN’T WAIT!
If the whole series isn’t in the can yet, maybe you can do a “these are the team colors - wine and gold...but how did we get here? And why isn’t the color of the arena seating giving my eyes diabetes?”
GREAT JOB!
gotta say, these series are becoming my favorite. i can’t wait for part 2, great editing
As someone born and raised in the 216 I very much appreciate this series
What an amazingly produced video! I'm not even a Cav's fan and absolutely enjoyed watching this. Put together so well, was like watching a 30-For-30 documentary.
Well done!
I am beyond impressed. This is like a documentary and your storytelling is superb. I love the layers you're unraveling and diving into the history of the franchise and league. Excited for Chapter 2
Speechless guys, love the break down of what a cavs fan (me and my family) have had to go through to get our one moment in the true spotlight
Kyrie’s shot gives me chills every time
Every secret base series has its magnum opus, an episode that epitomizes what the whole thing is about. Now rewinder has one of its own :)
As a all around Cleveland sports fan and being from Cleveland this was a beautiful moment I was in Cleveland watching the game with my dad and he passed a few years later and that’s one memory with him I remember so well and so happy I got to watch it with him and he died at only 49 too
YAY!! I could not be more happy that we get a whole documentary on this chip. I love your guys’ stuff and this series will bring back so many memories, even not being a Cleveland fan.
Looking forward to the segments about the late-80s Cavs. That 1989 team was a one-year wonder, but they were so underrated. Magic Johnson called them the team of the future.
This is honestly one of the best videos I've seen on this app secret base knows how to make sports videos
The amount of research you did is amazing. I’m excited for the next chapters!
This is so, so good.
We love our Cavs and I'm super stoked to see the other installments in this series. One of the best moments in sports history and easily my favorite sports memory as a fan
“There’s a Cavalier approach to NBA dealings in Cleveland” what a brilliant headline lmao
16:54 “it began, ‘the forwards line up on opposite sides of the floor…’ I couldn’t believe it. I threw it right in the trash” LMAOOOOO
Secret base I will never forget this channel you guys work the hardest to put these videos up and I gotta tell you what your doing is amazing. Don’t stop the good work this is what we need for new nba fans to learn. Thank you!
Just fantastic story telling and narrating. Kudos to everyone that put this together.
Wife: “Honey I’m going into labor!”
Me after I see this was uploaded: “I just need 30 more minutes.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Baby just wanted to see the show.
I remember watching the victory as an Australian Cavs fan. I cried when we won. Can't imagine what the US fans felt on that day 😂
I cried for sure. I had never seen a Cleveland championship 2016 was special. Honestly if it wasn’t for the Trevor Bauer drone incident I say the Indians would’ve won the World Series. Alas they hadn’t won a WS since early 1900s the baseball gods gifted them salvation.
Australian Cavs fan. That's cool man. How did you become a Cavs fan? If you don't mind me asking
@@RomeGoLARGE legit it was because when I was 6 I had an NBA game on my PSone. Had no idea how to change teams so I was ALWAYS the Cavs. Sadly this was against MJ's Bulls all the time. Only won once but I loved the team since 🤣
@@albertmotbey1128 ohh nice!! So you're around my age. I played those classic NBA games on ps1. Like nba shootout and NBA in the zone. I'm glad I'm in good company!
@@RomeGoLARGE likewise mate :)
This was incredible. The in depth pieces you do although time consuming are truly fantastic. Thank you for this!
Another masterpiece Seth and Crew! Got chills multiple times during this video, cannot wait for part 2/3!
I was born and raised in Cleveland, my God this is good…..
All I can say is wow, that “owner” was every bit delusional. There was no signs he actually wanted a winning team, he just wanted to say he owned a team lol
Liked.
Every owner wants to brag about owning a team, and all of them want to win, but maybe only 1-2% are willing to win if they don't make a profit. The first team that comes to mind is the 2004 AZ Diamondbacks who lost 111 games after a dominant five-year run, just two seasons after winning 98 games and the division, and three after winning the World Series.
Man these videos are super awesome to watch especially the longer ones this channel is definitely one of the best sports channels on CZcams🙏🙏
This was sublime. Love the editing and the 80's theme. Brilliant! Great job to the entire team.
As a cavs fan that lives in Cleveland I must say I’m prepared to cry a few times during this.
The Bills/Oilers 1992 playoff comeback deserves a Deep Rewind
This is awesome! Thank you for making this. The 2016 championship was the highlight of my sports fan life (so far, still holding out hope for a browns super bowl in the near future).
Your rewind videos are simply unbelievable, and some of the best sports documentaries I have ever seen.
finally, giving Kyrie Irving the RESPECT he deserves in the cold blooded role he played in the CC 2016 Championship - He is the one that broke the GSW
He always got the respect he deserved. He just felt he deserved all of it himself.
He is definetly NOT the one to break the warriors. 🙄
He finally played as good as he was supposed to after being hurt or disappointing in almost all of his other series. He's still getting too much credit/faith for getting a chip as the sidekick to this day. His injuries and toxicity should make teams pass on him.
YO, I'M SO GLAD YOU'RE BACK NARRATING.
Been a Cavs fan all my life. 2016 was truly special, thanks so much for the video, it means a lot.
Honestly the absolute best informational sports channel on CZcams! Keep it up guys!
2016 are the year of underdog and really need a good rewind tho
Cleveland city won it first ever major sport trophy by winning the NBA
Leicester city winning the premier league beating all odds
Portugal defeat the fan favorite france to win the euro
also the Broncos beating the hyped up favorites in the Panthers with MVP Cam
Hope they do Portugal.
And the Cubs winning the World Series for the first time in over a hundred years.
i always wanted more cleveland stuff, now we get a series!
As a diehard Cavs fan since 1986, I love that SB is making this a really, really long and in-depth video! Go Cavs!
I love listening to Seth talk about basketball. Thank you for the amazing content dude!
Who thought it was a good idea to launch softballs from 50 stories lmaooo
Didn't he see the WKRP turkey episode?
22:42 They probably released Whitehead after realizing he wasn't white >.
Sounds probable and praise the sun!
MANNNN!!! I wish I would have seen the full title before watching it all! I’m ready for part 2!! Good content I LOVE REWIND!
I LOVE it when you guys do these long ass series’
They’re always incredible.
im so excited to watch this
This is like the opposite of Collapse. 'Rise' lol
Fine, I'm going to just say it... This is the best goddamn sports journalism I've ever seen and they. Just. Keep. Doing. It
Facts
You guys have awesome content. And this long form story of the Cavaliers saga is already great.
I am a Warriors fan but the Cavs history is fascinating
"It began, 'The forwards line up on the opposite side of the floor.' I couldn't believe it. I threw it right in the trash basket."
This series is brilliant, just like these CZcams channel. Amazing work, looking forward to part 2
i hope you guys continue the trend of longer videos. i love the content on this channel
I’m so hyped for this
This is amazing.
fantastic work. love the cinematic and long form. thank you
This is awesome dude I can’t wait to watch episodes 2 and 3. Love the long and detailed video
Home boy at 7:57 should have a technical for that taco meat sweater he’s got on damn bruh
For reall
This was really interesting, very well done.
signed,
An Avid Non-Basketball Fan
Secret Base never fails to give us good videos :)
Looking forward for Chapter 2
These videos are really well done. Keep up the good work guys.