VIR with Trackdaze,March 2011. Right before the kink in the front straight,the oil filter gasket blows out,dumping about four quarts of oil on the rear tires.
@NeckPeck Car was basically totaled.10 hours on a frame machine got it back straight.It's almost completely back together.Will be back at VIR next weekend.
2:55 I'm so happy that you are ok and that your car was able to get back on the track again, but please do not remove your harness after a wreck, unless the car is on fire! Someone else can have the same unscheduled off track excursion as you and you'll be flung around the car like a rag doll if they hit you.
Interesting. I have an H2B swap running the 4.4FD gearbox. I have external reservoir BC's and Hoosier 205's all around. Man I would love to swap keys lol.
Wow, that's a sobering video ... both your accomplished performance up to the failure, and the suddenness of the accident. If there's one place I don't want to wipe out, it's at the end of the straight. Thanks for posting, it's damn good viewing, and a great caution for us all.
I like to watch these to try to figure out the exact moment the mistake happened. After a while seeing your driving I was sure someone else was going to cause the accident. I looked away for a half second and there was broken glass and smoke. Re-watched thinking the porche must have hit you, but no. Re-watched again to see how the car's weight would have shifted, but still couldn't figure it out. Finally read about the oil leak. Jeez that's some tough luck.
I was doing the same exact thing, I also like to watch these videos trying to figure out when the mistake happens and why, the only thing I thought of was either something in the suspension just snapped, or he drove over maybe a patch of sand or something, but after rewatching it I didn't see anything on the track, then I read the description afterwards and that just sucks it was an oil leak, glad the driver was okay and the car was revived
@@seangadapee4666 It's in the description. The oil filter gasket failed and oil was spewed and made it's way to the rear tires causing the spin out. I don't know if there is a way to prevent this type of accident, maybe preventative maintenance. Don't wait till your filter is leaking. Maybe be it was seeping oil slowly. I can see now that oil leaks are no joke. This can is not even turbo when the pressure from the turbo makes oil spew out. Edit: Just as I finished this comment I see the OP explain that he did not put enough oil on the oil filter gasket. You need to take some oil and wet the oil filter gasket lip before installing the oil filter. He also did not have the OEM size. He switched back to the OEM size but still mentioned that the majority of the problem was not lubricating the o filter o-ring sufficiently.
Glad to see the driver was OK. That was definitely a harsh crash, and unlucky it happened where it did. A bit before the kink and he would have spun into the grass on the outside. After and he would have just spun down the track. This is another example showing why, if you are serious about driving on the track, and are getting really fast, you should invest in safety equipment. At least a rollbar (full cage would be best), harnesses, and Hans.
I was at VIR a month ago for Oktoberfest. I did HPDE 1. No way to save that especial when turning into the straightway kink. BOTH FEET IN! Glad you are OK. With 4th gear tached just before my brake zone I was hitting ~125 mph in my 1991 318is. Not as fast you but just as butt puckering. Cheers!
@xxxH22VTECxxx It's a Wix 51344,which has the same mounting specs as the OEM filter,but the body is quite a bit bigger,so it has more filter media.I've 99.9% narrowed it down to not putting enough oil on the o-ring when I installed the filter,which caused the gasket to bunch up and then blow out under high pressure. I've since switched back to the OEM size filter(Wix 51334)and I now safety wire the filter for extra insurance.
There was no saving that while making a pass, checking mirrors, merging back into your line, and a turn coming up....I'm sorry this happened to you but at least no one else crashed into you during the accident.
Every time I watch it, wild. I own an EK (or EJ6 lol) hatchback with a little more power. This really shows how things can go from totally normal to totally f'ed in a fraction of a second. That's one quick EG! I would love to know more about your setup. I'm trying to get my car dialed, but I have so much adjustability I don't really know what I'm doing with the alignment.
I honestly think the oil filter gasket had bunched up just a little from me not putting enough oil on it when installing it.After a few laps of 80+psi oil pressure it finally blew out the stretched/damaged part.I really don't think a properly installed filter with a properly seated gasket would have ever done this. I've since made sure to put a liberal amount of oil on the gasket when installing filters,and purely overkill,but I now safety wire the filter to the block.
Actually caught the Armco pretty hard.Hood was C/F,so it just sort of shattered at the front.Pushed the whole front clip over 3"-4".Spent several hours on a frame machine,and had to replace hood,fenders,bumper,bumper support and windshield.
I know that the video is 5 years old. I drag race a 850 awhp Subaru STI. I respect all cars and drivers if they act professional. Hope you are still racing and living the dream. Screw those haters. Most people talking crap will never see a track or drag strip. Wish you the best!
@@hagerz I haven't seen any of the crap, hopefully most of it has been removed. It took me a lot of reading to get to the bottom of why it happened, I was completely taken by surprise as he'd been driving really well and I could see no reason for the back to just decide to overtake the front apparently out of the blue. A liberal coating of oil on the rear wheels will do that every time and I doubt anyone is going to be able to escape the consequences, only luck will save the dents.
Yes you did have the right to pass the 911. You did an excellent job of running the course while following a great line. I didn't read too far through the comments before I made made post so I didn't know you had an oil problem. At first it looked like you may have been a little to the right where that dip is in the track. Depending on speed and vehicle setup etc faded from left to right is best right there when possible. It can give you a good bounce and I thought maybe you hit it while trying
Was the car repairable? It only seemed to clip the Armco, even though the airbag deployed, the hood didn't buckle in front of the windshield or anything like that, although it is unibody unfortunately.
I actually had a frame shop straighten the frame spars,and I then put new ,bumper,fenders,hood,and radiator on the car.I've done about ten events with the car since this happened.
Oh man:( that seemed like a very tuned civic! I was shocked to see how back the wreck was..I hate when people talk shit about civics..this civic wasnt shit if it was passing a BMW m5
@mchandler2112 No,the door was fine.Where I stopped is somewhat blind coming around the kink.There was a black flag,but I was worried cars going over 100MPH might be caught off guard by my location.No reason to get out of the car until the safety truck came(so I knew the track was secured),unless it was on fire.
There was absolutely NO way of saving that. Mario Andretti wouldn't have pulled that out. That being said start the video near the crash not 3 minutes in.
As I understand it was an engine failure, and oil spin. Rather sobering. What a place to wreck. He was lucky. My guess he was going 125-130. Something to keep in mind as his lines were good through that section. kellypf
Happened to one of my friend, oil leaked (not just a little leak)right after the first start after the oil change, he would have noticed when changing the oil.
Shangri La Racing Airbags are now gone. At that time the car still got driven on the street some, so I had wanted to keep them. The oil Filter was a Wix - generally a high quality brand. Sadly, I now really think it all came down to me not lubricating the filter gasket enough, and it bunched up as it was tightened.
Holy shit that came out of nowhere...
@NeckPeck
Car was basically totaled.10 hours on a frame machine got it back straight.It's almost completely back together.Will be back at VIR next weekend.
Any updates 10 years later? lol
@@cpoteet8008 yes! Fixed the car, and it has done a ton of track days since then! The other on-track videos here on my channel are with the same car.
crap man, you were doing it so good, I was enjoying the laps, and your car seems to be a very solid build
Car ASMR with a scary ending.
2:55 I'm so happy that you are ok and that your car was able to get back on the track again, but please do not remove your harness after a wreck, unless the car is on fire! Someone else can have the same unscheduled off track excursion as you and you'll be flung around the car like a rag doll if they hit you.
It's a 94 hatchback,JDM ITR engine with I/H/E,GSR transmission with 4.9FD,KYB/Eibach coilovers,NT01 tires.
Interesting. I have an H2B swap running the 4.4FD gearbox. I have external reservoir BC's and Hoosier 205's all around. Man I would love to swap keys lol.
Wow, that's a sobering video ... both your accomplished performance up to the failure, and the suddenness of the accident. If there's one place I don't want to wipe out, it's at the end of the straight.
Thanks for posting, it's damn good viewing, and a great caution for us all.
I like to watch these to try to figure out the exact moment the mistake happened. After a while seeing your driving I was sure someone else was going to cause the accident. I looked away for a half second and there was broken glass and smoke. Re-watched thinking the porche must have hit you, but no. Re-watched again to see how the car's weight would have shifted, but still couldn't figure it out. Finally read about the oil leak. Jeez that's some tough luck.
I was doing the same exact thing, I also like to watch these videos trying to figure out when the mistake happens and why, the only thing I thought of was either something in the suspension just snapped, or he drove over maybe a patch of sand or something, but after rewatching it I didn't see anything on the track, then I read the description afterwards and that just sucks it was an oil leak, glad the driver was okay and the car was revived
I'm shocked at how quickly the back came around. Holy crap! Great video.
Imagine a lotus barely breaking away from a cheap track car priceless
And then smacking a wall on a straight away while cresting a teeny tiny hill
@@muffcabbage9742 that was driver's fault.
@@muffcabbage9742 Muff CABBAAAAAGE!!!!
Absolutely great content bro! Loved reading your update about fixing the car and racing again.
Subscribing for that sweet sweet content.
Dang, hey man not much you could have done really. Car absolutely exploded side ways, glad to see your're ok and engine is good.
How did that happen?
Oil filter blew throwing oil on rear tyres
@@seangadapee4666 It's in the description. The oil filter gasket failed and oil was spewed and made it's way to the rear tires causing the spin out. I don't know if there is a way to prevent this type of accident, maybe preventative maintenance. Don't wait till your filter is leaking. Maybe be it was seeping oil slowly. I can see now that oil leaks are no joke. This can is not even turbo when the pressure from the turbo makes oil spew out.
Edit: Just as I finished this comment I see the OP explain that he did not put enough oil on the oil filter gasket. You need to take some oil and wet the oil filter gasket lip before installing the oil filter. He also did not have the OEM size. He switched back to the OEM size but still mentioned that the majority of the problem was not lubricating the o filter o-ring sufficiently.
Glad to see the driver was OK. That was definitely a harsh crash, and unlucky it happened where it did. A bit before the kink and he would have spun into the grass on the outside. After and he would have just spun down the track. This is another example showing why, if you are serious about driving on the track, and are getting really fast, you should invest in safety equipment. At least a rollbar (full cage would be best), harnesses, and Hans.
Exactly.Throw it away,buy another for $500-$1,000 and you're back on track running with people who are scared to drive their $100,000 cars.
I wish I could still buy them for that price 10 years later lmao
@@tyson8254 no kidding! My comment hasn't aged well.
@Sedrom
It's a stock JDM ITR.VTEC "kicks" at 5700 RPM.
I was at VIR a month ago for Oktoberfest. I did HPDE 1. No way to save that especial when turning into the straightway kink. BOTH FEET IN! Glad you are OK. With 4th gear tached just before my brake zone I was hitting ~125 mph in my 1991 318is. Not as fast you but just as butt puckering. Cheers!
thank god your alive fella !!!
good job man, you were flying for a while there!
You were throwing down some good laps. Sorry to hear about the oil. Kudos.
@NeckPeck
Yes,the oil filter gasket blew out,dumping about 4 quarts on the rear tires.
@xxxH22VTECxxx
It's a Wix 51344,which has the same mounting specs as the OEM filter,but the body is quite a bit bigger,so it has more filter media.I've 99.9% narrowed it down to not putting enough oil on the o-ring when I installed the filter,which caused the gasket to bunch up and then blow out under high pressure.
I've since switched back to the OEM size filter(Wix 51334)and I now safety wire the filter for extra insurance.
How do you safety wire the filter? Excuse my ignorance. I've never seen it done before.
There's a wideband-I had just out this engine in the car and still been tuning some.There is also a shift light beside it.
There was no saving that while making a pass, checking mirrors, merging back into your line, and a turn coming up....I'm sorry this happened to you but at least no one else crashed into you during the accident.
@davidbspalding
Sobering. The suddeness was astounding. Truly. Glad to know the driver is not the worse for wear, and the car eventually survived.
Every time I watch it, wild.
I own an EK (or EJ6 lol) hatchback with a little more power. This really shows how things can go from totally normal to totally f'ed in a fraction of a second.
That's one quick EG! I would love to know more about your setup. I'm trying to get my car dialed, but I have so much adjustability I don't really know what I'm doing with the alignment.
I honestly think the oil filter gasket had bunched up just a little from me not putting enough oil on it when installing it.After a few laps of 80+psi oil pressure it finally blew out the stretched/damaged part.I really don't think a properly installed filter with a properly seated gasket would have ever done this.
I've since made sure to put a liberal amount of oil on the gasket when installing filters,and purely overkill,but I now safety wire the filter to the block.
Yeah,the wall kind of put a stop to all that rather quickly.
Reminds me of my scca days. Great job overall even while sliding. God bless you
great driving man. too bad about the gasket. were you able to salvage any parts?
Actually caught the Armco pretty hard.Hood was C/F,so it just sort of shattered at the front.Pushed the whole front clip over 3"-4".Spent several hours on a frame machine,and had to replace hood,fenders,bumper,bumper support and windshield.
I know that the video is 5 years old. I drag race a 850 awhp Subaru STI. I respect all cars and drivers if they act professional. Hope you are still racing and living the dream. Screw those haters. Most people talking crap will never see a track or drag strip. Wish you the best!
@@hagerz I haven't seen any of the crap, hopefully most of it has been removed. It took me a lot of reading to get to the bottom of why it happened, I was completely taken by surprise as he'd been driving really well and I could see no reason for the back to just decide to overtake the front apparently out of the blue. A liberal coating of oil on the rear wheels will do that every time and I doubt anyone is going to be able to escape the consequences, only luck will save the dents.
Sorry to see you crash. Glad you're O.K.
Is there anyway to prevent the oil filter gasket from blowing out like that?
You did great job on the track, thats pity you finished like that ;D
Rear view mirror changes like magic
No,wasn't double gasket.The gasket on the new filter blew out.
Yes you did have the right to pass the 911. You did an excellent job of running the course while following a great line. I didn't read too far through the comments before I made made post so I didn't know you had an oil problem. At first it looked like you may have been a little to the right where that dip is in the track. Depending on speed and vehicle setup etc faded from left to right is best right there when possible. It can give you a good bounce and I thought maybe you hit it while trying
Was the car repairable? It only seemed to clip the Armco, even though the airbag deployed, the hood didn't buckle in front of the windshield or anything like that, although it is unibody unfortunately.
What engine setup did you have in there? and It sounds like VTEC is kicking waaay early.
Dam man I really feel sad for you, you were really overtaking it and then...hope you get something better ;)
That's a very strange place to wreck....what happened...were there fluids on the track?
Whatever happens, I will have my rear view mirror adjusted so that I can see what is happening behind me. And... I do NOT, not EVER leave my car!
Did u noticed rear view mirror changed while crash
Saima Bilal it was a clip over wide-view mirror on top of the factory mirror. The impact made it fly off.
Good catch Saima!
Thanks for replys
I heard a "click" or "pop" just a few seconds before you spun
Shit you dont lose your traction like that unless something went wrong ahead of you or with you(by that i mean the car or the track).
Great driving!
That's easy to say in hindsight.With the engine starting to seize and several quarts of oil on the rear tires.......It didn't pull back around.
No chance in saving that!
I actually had a frame shop straighten the frame spars,and I then put new ,bumper,fenders,hood,and radiator on the car.I've done about ten events with the car since this happened.
What happened? Mechanical failure, lift off oversteer?
@@elliotthale1835 the oil filter gasket blew out, and covered the rear tires in oil, right before the front straight kink.
Why do you have a wideband? Or what is that thing?
crazy how things happen out the blue on the track what happen?
What the hell happened? Did he lift too much and rear became too light or what?
Did the door jam? I would've been out of that car as soon as I was sure I was ok
So this is where games get their mirror design from?
So was it the dip on the track right there that made you lose it? Looks like you were a little too far to the right/ close to the wv
His oil filter let go dumping oil on his rear tires. Hope your doing ok after 9 years.
The wideview mirror shattered when I hit the wall.The stock mirror is behind it,so you see it.
@XxWICKEDSSxX
That was the oil filter blowing out.
i was wondering what would cause it that looked crzy glad youre ok those are scary crashes
At least the airbags work, but seriously glad the driver is ok, not bad for a little Civic considering the price / performance :)
Not bad...I had a little light burn around the eyeport area of my helmet.Airbags are now disabled.
Well that escalated quickly
Never mind just read description
Phew, thank god the mirror is OK! LOL just kidding, glad you're ok. Cheap cars for the win!
Ouch are you ok bro 😢😢😭
Sorry! Just saw your post was in response to somebody else.
Let me guess, K&N oil filter??
@XxWICKEDSSxX
On going back and reviewing, I heard it too.
Oh man:( that seemed like a very tuned civic! I was shocked to see how back the wreck was..I hate when people talk shit about civics..this civic wasnt shit if it was passing a BMW m5
Yeah,the clip-on wideview mirror flew off.
@mchandler2112
No,the door was fine.Where I stopped is somewhat blind coming around the kink.There was a black flag,but I was worried cars going over 100MPH might be caught off guard by my location.No reason to get out of the car until the safety truck came(so I knew the track was secured),unless it was on fire.
There was absolutely NO way of saving that. Mario Andretti wouldn't have pulled that out. That being said start the video near the crash not 3 minutes in.
WOW!!!
How did that even happy?
is this the red car on drag "my bad day at the track"?
Not a chance for a save...
As I understand it was an engine failure, and oil spin. Rather sobering. What a place to wreck. He was lucky. My guess he was going 125-130. Something to keep in mind as his lines were good through that section.
kellypf
Was the engine ok without oil pressure for those couple seconds?
So far, so good. It's had about 25 days of track tine put on it since.
Was there metal in the oil after the accident?
Those Porsche dudes love lettin those Hondas in
Civic is a wee flyer
Not enough downforce?
shit, thats pretty fast spin
Wall. Other wise you were tearing it up quit nicely!
VTEC kicked in yo?
What the heck caused that? I love how all Honda’s have that same ignition beep.. my S2000 and SI both sound exactly the same 😂
In the description it says the oil filter o-ring blew out and oiled up the back tires... Scary.
it had airbags , amazing !
next time dont have oil in the engine?
No,fixed the POS and still tracking it.
Noted.
that was some good racing too
This could of also happened if someone forgot to remove the old gasket when changing the oil filter..
Happened to one of my friend, oil leaked (not just a little leak)right after the first start after the oil change, he would have noticed when changing the oil.
unlucky, i don‘t think anyone could have saved that
crash actually happens at 2:42
Oil(read the description).I was to the right to pass the 911.
Mas o que aconteceu? Que coisa ...
Ah OK, didn't read the description. Fair enough :)
lesson 1. pull the air bag fuse. lesson 2. use factory OEM oil filter.
Shangri La Racing
Airbags are now gone. At that time the car still got driven on the street some, so I had wanted to keep them.
The oil Filter was a Wix - generally a high quality brand. Sadly, I now really think it all came down to me not lubricating the filter gasket enough, and it bunched up as it was tightened.
Spooooooooooooooooon
It's probably as entertaining as watching somebody fire a gun all day.
not a chance for a save...
@ANewbornThriller
Yes
Not your fault at all, most important thing is you came out alive.
@xGH0ST11x
This isn't about juvenile brand name games. Its seriousness is clearly over your head.
240 is where it happens
Jheeze dude☹️☹️☹️