Honest and thorough refutation of Calvinism. We need more men like him these days preaching the pure, uncorrupted Gospel of Jesus Christ to restore proper understanding of certain passages of Scripture that have been hijacked by Calvinists.
When you hear people singing this song you know who their lord is. "Jesus loves me, this I know. As for you, I don't think so. Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong. Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! Yes, Jesus loves me! But I hope this isn't effervescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever." The verdict to those who preach this Heresy! This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. Deuteronomy 30: 19-20 Proverbs 1 : 23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings. 24 But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, 25 since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, 26 I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you- Truth in Love
@@alvinhickling901 Very good point! I totally understand what you are saying! Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9: 11-13 NOTE "Just as it is written!" Well where is it written? It is written in Genesis 25: 23! The Lord said to her, (Rebekah) “Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger.” It was talking about nations not individuals! In there lives the older DID NOT serve the younger. But the Nations did! When the Bible referred to Esau and Jacob it was referring to THE NATIONS THEY REPRESENTED NOT THE INDIVIDUALS. But I know your John Calvin training will not allow you to see that. This is a classic example where the Calvinist mind has been trained by their cult leaders to NEVER let themselves be cornered with context! Context is the enemy of Calvinism. So in this case they are ordered to stop the verse before you get to the "AS IT IS WRITTEN" part, or this so called proof text supporting Calvinism evaporates. TRUTH IN LOVE
@@alvinhickling901 Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things, and made all things exactly the way they are.... thus god also created evil. therefore since calvinists believe god created evil. they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin. calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god. and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation. since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ. thus calvinists are not christians. Can a person be saved trusting in something other than Christ Jesus? NO! They are trusting in the hope of election not Christ! Is it possible to be in a reformed church and be saved. Yes but that is in spite of the heresy. They must have put their faith in Christ separately from what is taught. Just like those in the Catholic Cult. There could be baby christians that have no clue what they are sitting under. If they wake up and listen to the Holy Spirit they would run out of the Hive screaming! Calvinism is NOT just another Christian denomination. It is a Cult. A doctrine of demons. Strangely how those in it, defend it to their deaths. That is how Satan, not God blinds them to the truth. But that is their God given right of free will, to do so. Truth in Love
Can't wait to thank Adrian for helping me raise my son who is now in the Marine Corps serving his country. And because of Adrian Rogers sermons and my son and I reading God's word every single night since he was born my son is 19 and never kissed a girl and is still a virgin praise God
It speaks to total ignorance of Calvinism AND biblical exegesis. James White covered this sermon and obliterated it with properly and consistently exegeted scripture. This sermon never touched Calvinism, just a straw man version that doesn't exist.
“There are two things that are absolutely clear in Scripture-one is that God by His foreknowledge has predestinated all who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ “to be conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom. 8:29). Predestination is never to heaven nor yet to hell; but always to special privilege in and with Christ. All who believe in Him were chosen in Christ “before the foundation of the world.” Harry Ironside
I hear this amazing pastor speak straight to my heart and ask God to forgive me of all unrighteousness and lead me on the straight and narrow path, to look upon Jesus and ask for forgiveness of my sins. I confess Jesus Christ as lord and saviour who died for my sins then God raised him from the dead. I believe AMEN
This has been a disagreement for me and my husband. I hope he will watch this with an open heart to the holy spirit. Thank you Lord for preachers like Adrian Roger's.
Im still alive.Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me another day to gaze my eyes upon all of your creation. Though its a world of sin. May the moments i live be to glorify, serve and honor you. Happy Birthday Lord Jesus 2018.
I love you so much Adrian. You are and were God sent. Thank you so much for all your lessons and truth and concern. I can't wait to be with you in heaven, and I am so glad that we are in Christ together forever!!!
God desires all to be saved but only those who truly believe are saved. I see total depravity more that apart from Jesus I am in serious trouble. I am totally unable in myself to meet God's perfect standard only the gift of Christ's righteousness. That being said those who are true believers are Under Grace and not Under Law like unbelievers.
It’s specifically the false doctrine of double predestination and denial of human free will that turns God into the author of sin and a morally objectionable Creator, who gives the damned no free will choice whatsoever and allows them to go to hell for eternity. That’s neither biblical nor historic Christianity, and it is morally contemptible.
You're obviously an atheist. I remember the atheist formula: insult God insult Christians insult Christianity = you win the debate. Makes zero sense. You don't believe so obviously you don't understand. Btw you're absolutely wrong. Shame.
Even as someone that leans hard to the Doctrines of Grace, I appreciate this brother in Christ. We must learn the needful concept of learning to disagree apart from portraying the other party as a villain. Our disagreements may be serious, yet we both belong to Jesus. We should act like it.
I'm always blessed whenever I listen to Pst Adrian Rogers profound message of the cross. I thank God even though the messenger is gone but the messages still go on.
Calvinism is just another false gospel that we are warned about in Galatians. It's heretical and it preaches a god that is NOT the God of the Bible. How hard is it to understand that "God wishes NONE to perish but ALL to come to repentance"? 2 Peter 3:9 or "...WHOSOEVER believes in Jesus..."John 3:16 or "Jesus is the propitiation (payment)for our (the saved) sins: and not for ours (the saved) only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE world." That doesn't sound like only the elect to me.
Hello love with finding thank you very much for putting on Adrian and Rogers I watch him everyday on CZcams and listen to the radio I've been listening to Adrian Rogers ever since I came to America I am from Ukraine and I'm praying for Ukraine thank you very much God bless and stay safe ☺️
Thank you loving father in heaven most high God for your long suffering for the world, may your name be Glorified IJN. Adrian Rogers, thanks for encouraging us all.
The Lord made man free moral agents in order that they could voluntarily chose to believe and to serve God, or to voluntarily turn their backs on him harding their hearts and serve carnal man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: *for in the image of God made he man* {Genesis 9:6} If man was not created a free moral agent, then he was not created in the image of God.
I love this godly man. If only another Adrian Rogers would be born today. We have many godly, biblical preachers but never another like Dr. Rogers. I can't wait to meet him in heaven.
I would love for this guy and John Piper get together and discuss this topic. Because John Piper being a calvanist believes that some are predestined for hell. Which is false. And he preaches on the topic that doesn't fully explain it, but justifies it as being a 'mystery'. And people listen and agree without diving deeper into it.
God is sovereign… what does sovereign mean? Does God give up his will and yield to man’s? No! Man by nature loves darkness, and as such we would never choose Christ. However, by God giving us the Holy Spirit and giving us the ability to “hear” and “see” the good news, then and only then can we know him, and believe in him. No man seeks for God. It is very clear. May we give God all credit for salvation, and May we boast in him because he first loved us. Without his great love, we could not love him. Praise God.
Thank GOD for letting me hear this , my appreciation abounds! The torment on a soul when you deny what GOD tells you is unbearable, don't quench the spirit brethren, say what needs saying and rest from the yoke of this world. Thank you Jesus for loving me when i didnt even love myself!
One of the greatest terraces in the church is the deception that once you’re saved, you cannot lose salvation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Thank you Pastor Adrian!! Solid teaching on the scriptures!Just earlier today, I was listening to someone talking about how some people are just predestined for hell. It was so depressing and made me feel for people,like I can see how someone would want to give up and think what’s the use.
Calvinist have absolutely NO concern for winning souls as they believe it is impossible and a waste of time. God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction.( John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6) Truth in Love
AND we've All gone astray! There's no one righteous NOT even one! AND yet when His mercy showed up in our lives individually, we were up to that point sons of wrath, so we at that moment by Grace we stopped being vessels of wrath and gave us the Righteous Obedience of The Second Adam, Jesus Christ Himself!, so that in Him we are NOW the Righteousness of God because of Christ Jesus, and were made alive in Him... granting us His Righteousness and circumcised our hearts, making us vessels of honor, For His Glory, our condemnation has been nailed to the Cross! He defeated our sins and conquered our death
Free and God’s sovereignty are a mystery I would say. Both are true. Both are opposing concepts, in a way. Again, both true. Adrian Rogers would often say he is glad we cannot understand all things like our God, or He wouldn’t be God.
Confusion is the only word that is appropriate to summarize this message. How can the All powerful Good want all of mankind to be saved, yet some men will harden their own hearts and reject Salvation. Will someone from this ministry respond to the following question. Is the will of mankind more powerful than the Sovereign will of God concerning salvation?
Jason Manchester it is the result of free will. If everything ideal and perfect as Christ, then there would be absolutely no need for a savior. Yes, the methods & ways of the Lord are impossible to fathom let alone understand. For me, I try not to get too hung up on thoughts such as “if God is so loving, how come he always so much evil to exist”? The best answer I have heard to this question is that a world without hardships & heartache would lead to us viewing ourselves as gods. Think about it. If there’s was never anything negative experienced in our lives-would be be humble to do kind things for others? Would we have soft hearts our fellow men and/or God? The answer is no. There would be no need or want for any outside help. The world needs evil to exist so that humans can show, by example, the love of God. I hope I was able to relate this in a way that can be comprehended. I have a brain injury & am always working to convey my thoughts in an understandable way. Merry Christmas and God Bless You and Your Family.
My God is powerful enough to remain fully sovereign (in control) while at the same time granting full autonomous libertarian free will to His creation. Is yours? The true gospel of Christ is this, God loves all, God died for all, God calls all, God seeks to save all, God promises all can believe and be saved and God commands all to repent and believe. To preach anything contrary is to preach a false gospel. 2 Corinthians 5:14-15, 19 "14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for ALL, then ALL died; 15 and He died FOR ALL, that those who live should live no loner for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again...19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation."1 Timothy 2:3-6 “3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for All, to be testified in due time,” Luke 5:32 "I have not come to call the righteous, but Sinners, to repentance." Acts 17:30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,"
God wants all to be saved. But all don't want to be saved. If you were forced into accepting Christ, would it be love? If someone married you for the simple reason of not having a choice, would it be genuine love? The Bible tells us that God wants all to be saved. Not that God will save everyone.
@@djohnson3093 I mean what if I just don't want to go to hell. Its not really a choice made out of love. I do believe Jesus is very very real but I came to Him because I don't have much of a choice. If you know for certain that all of this is very real you do not have a choice. Like you used the example of marriage. I could marry someone if I'm homeless and desperate and terrified and no it wouldn't be genuine love, i just don't have much of a choice. Its either that or suffer a horrible fate. And even if im not happy i have to force myself to be grateful because its better than the alternative. That's how I feel about Him honestly. I actually hate being alive and my experience has been awful and frankly I hate Him for what I've been through, but if I don't choose Him I can spend the rest of my life being tortured by demons and eventually going to hell. There's no love in that choice.
@@marytitus88 Bottom line, God Loves You beyond anything you can ever imagine. He offers salvation to all who want to accept him . What a joy to know Jesus !! Romans 10:9-13
We are dead in trespassrs and sins. A dead man/ woman cannot choose anything because they're dead. God has chosen His elect before the foundation of the world. Those who who are called receive grace and those who are not saved receive justice. God's ways are perfect and higher then our ways and His thoughts then out thoughts. I love my brother Adrian and believe he was a strong man of God but we don't choose God, He chose us.
When the prodigal son comes home his dad says rejoice for my son was dead and us now alive. He was lost and now is found. The son came to his father of his own accord. He was dead in the same sway we are dead in sin. When he came the father welcomed his son with more than he expected. This is how it is with God.
To Jason Manchester with love, I perceive that in the pride of knowledge you may be confused in worship of Theology! "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." (1 Cor 14:33) When faced with confusion or unanswered questions concerning our Creator (Father), Savior (Word) or self, I go to the source, holy scripture, for uncorrupted knowledge and council (Holy Spirit). "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Gen 2:7) Our conscience bears witness of right and wrong in the Holy Spirit. (Romans 2:15, 9:1) But beware of a defiled conscience by a hardened heart of self-deceit: this is the mystery of iniquity. After mankind's disobedience, "the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Gen 3:22) Though sovereign, heavenly Father has always given individuals a choice (free will). But, our Hallowed Father cannot allow corruption to inherit his kingdom. Everyone knows this! We do not need a man to teach us God's will. It is written, "Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish." (Mathew 18:14) God is calling each individual personally, to salvation. This is our first concern and personal choice between life or death. It is written, "Teach me to do thy will; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness." (Psalm 143:10)
Ephesians 1:4. He chose us in Christ, before the foundation of the world. There are many, many, more Scriptures that tell us this truth. So who do we believe God, or Mr Rogers. Don't misunderstand me, I love to listen to Mr Rogers, this is the first time I heard him talk on election. He did a lot of maneuvering in Rom 9, to prove his point, but, I hate to say it. He totally misinterpreted Rom 9.
When does God choose people? When they are in Christ. How does God choose people to be in Christ? By hearing and believing the gospel of salvstion. Read Eph 1:13. Eph 1:4 tells that it is the purpose of choosing that is before the foundation of the world for those in Christ, and that is to be holy and blameless in his sight. God's choosing of individuals is not done before the creation of the world, but when the individuals hear and believe the gospel of salvation (Eph 1:13).
@@anicetosalas4808 No, you wrong, you are interpreting Eph 1, to fit your free will theology, which the Scripture in Eph 1, clearly does not teach. Nor does the rest of the Scripture, teach free will salvation. Salvation is not, because out of your free will you chose Christ, No, never. Never, has anyone received salvation from Christ on account of their free will. Salvation is of the Lord if you are truly born of of Him, not because of your free will, choosing Christ. Scripture says all sinners are dead in trespasses and sins, Eph 2. Scripture says no one seeks after God. Romans 3:10-18. Our free will, before we are born again by the Holy Spirit, is bound in our sins, and we did the deeds of our sinful will, because we were slaves to our sins. John 8:34. Rom 6:6, 6:16, 6:22, Gal 5:1, 2 Peter 2:19. So many more Scriptures proving that we were slaves to sin, and dead to righteousness. For you to say that out of your free will you chose Christ and salvation, is for you to deny that you were a slave to sin, and that your free will was bound in your sins in your sinful nature, which Eph 2:1-7, tells us about, and then V8-10. Tells us the true gospel and how God saves a sinner, and brings him to life, and salvation in Christ Jesus. God tells us, how He saves us, V8, by His grace, through faith, not of ourselves, (free will) it is the gift of God, not of works (free will) last anyone should boast. Please stop boasting before God, right to His face, by saying to Him, Lord, by my free will I chose to be saved by You, I am boasting in the power of my free will, Lord, even though you tell me in you word that I was born in sin and a slave to my sins, I don't believe that, even though you tell me in Ephesians 2, all sinners are dead in trespasses and their sins, i don't believe that, even though Jesus said no one can come to Me, unless the Father draws them to Me, I don't believe that either, even though, Rom 3:10-18, declares the total depravity of mans sinful nature, i don't believe that either. Friend, I have to tell you, you don't believe a lot of Scripture, by which God's word clearly has shown you, that, true salvation in Christ, is the work of the Holy Spirit, by His grace, (nothing to do with us,) by faith (which is also a gift from God Eph 12:3) and it is the faith that comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. No one is saved without the true Gospel of Christ and Him crucified for our sins and rose again for our justification. The elect by God, chosen and predestined by God for salvation, must come through the Cross of Christ, just as Scripture says, John 3:16. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. The Elect of God, whom He has predestined before the foundation of the world they will believe in the Cross of Christ and receive His salvation. John 1:10-13. V10, He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. V11, His own did not receive Him, V12, but as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God. Please listen carefully V11 says, as many as received Him, He gave the right to become the children of God, to those who believe in His name, how did they become to believe in His name, V13 tells us, Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Friend, no room to boast in your free will, none whatsoever. You are sinning with your boasting, because you say, out of your own free will you came to Christ and received His salvation. Please, give God the glory for saving your soul, and don't glory in your free will for the salvation of your soul. You have made your free will, an idol, that can not save anyone. Just as Jesus said in John 1:13, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Please, repent, stop boasting. Recognize, that it is of God, that we are in Christ and Him alone, not of your free will, friend, not of my free will, But of God. Please, hear the truth of God's word which is crystal clear, Salvation is His work by the Holy Spirit in our soul, by conviction of our sin, righteousness, and judgment, as God draws us to His Beloved Son Jesus Christ, and Him crucified for our sins, God opens our eyes by the Holy Spirit to see ourselves as wretched sinners in desperate need to be cleansed and forgiven of all our sins, we are brought to our knees before Christ and His Cross, and we cry out for mercy, by confession of our sins to Him, we repent, we ask forgiveness, and trust Him, by submitting to Him as our Lord and Savior, walking in the power of the Holy Spirit, doing His will, by which God, predestined us to be conformed into the image of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom 8:28-39.
@@Jeremiah17910 Good for you for taking a stand for the TRUTH. 😇 1Peter 2:8. ...for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed. It is written...Jacob I loved but Esau I hated. Man's pride and arrogance believes he chooses Jesus, but God resists the proud and the arrogant. It is written...HIS Sovereignty rules over ALL.
@@cindyrehder7311 what about the people throughout the world who lived in the OT times who were not Abraham's descendents, they all died in their sins, and are lost forever. Not all Abraham's descendants were saved either, the whole generation of unbelieving descendants of Abraham whom God delivered through Moses and Arron out of slavery from Egypt, died in the wilderness because of their unbelief. Whosoever believes the true gospel of Christ and Him crucified for our sins and risen from the dead for our justification, and bows before the Lord in confession of sin, repentance, becomes born again by the Holy Spirit and a follower of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are the ones who are saved. It is the sin of unbelief, those who die in their sins unforgiven are the ones who will spend eternity separated from God in the place called lake of fire. God is the Almighty Sovereign Creator, who never changes. He is Holy. Actually He specifically created 4 living creatures who are around the throne of God day and night they do not cease to say, Holy, Holy, Holy, is The LORD God Almighty, Who was, and is, and is to come. Rev 4:8. We are all unholy deserving of hell fire. If God would have chosen not to save us at all and send us all to hell forever, He will still be as Holy and as loving as ever because He doesn't change. The only reason we are not consumed by Him in judgment is because of His mercy. Lamentations 3:22-23. God is Sovereign, yet He hasn't chosen to save everyone. Please remember we the sinners are at the mercy of God. Daniel 4:35 says, All inhabitants of the earth are regarded as nothing, He does as He pleases among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth, no one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, what have You done. God's word clearly teaches that God is not at the mercy of sinners and their will. He is not sitting on His Sovereign throne, looking down waiting and hoping some sinner will believe in Christ for salvation, but is all disappointed because so many mortal sinners are rejecting His salvation in Christ and He can't do anything about it. What? Really the Creator God, is bowing down to man's choice of Him. The Bible clearly teaches that salvation is of God. John 1:13, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Salvation is of God. He can save every soul He ever created if He willed to do that, but we know that not everyone is saved. All the people who believe the true gospel of Christ are the elect of God.
@@cindyrehder7311 you shouldn't be amazed, everything I said was from the word of God. If you were a student of God's word you would know the true God as He has revealed Himself in Scripture and you would worship Him in spirit and in truth for all His glorious attributes, including His Sovereignty over the salvation of sinners. Everything in His universe, is preordained before He spoke it into existence as recorded in Genesis. In Him all things hold together Col 1:17. God works all things according to the counsel of His will. Eph 1:11. Not your will not my will not anyone's will, but, according to His will. Friend, you need to submit to the Sovereign Almighty Creator God and live by His word, or alse you will be tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine.... Eph 4:14. Trust the finished work of Christ on His cross for your salvation, recognize that you are saved by grace through faith and that not of yourselves is a gift of God, not of works, that no one may boast. Eph 2:8-9. Please don't boast on your free will, fallen human free will, is a will, that is slave to sin Rom 6:20. And before you were saved you did what your sinful free will wanted to do, and you chose to sin with great joy like the rest of humanity. But not anymore as a child of God, now you live by the power of the Holy Spirit who set you free from slavery to sin, and made you a servant of righteousness. Not that we never stumble and fall short of His glory, every time we sin especially as His children we fall short of His glory. But we have an advocate our Lord Jesus Christ who intercedes for us day and night before the throne of God. And we are instructed in 1 John 1:9, if confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Amazing grace of God. By the way I never once read anything that Calvin wrote, not once. I am not so called Calvinist, I am not no man follower, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I study Scripture, the Holy Spirit is my teacher, I take no credit zero for my salvation, It is all the work of God's grace by the Holy Spirit to bring me to the cross of Christ and there cause me to be born again and adopted into His eternal family to enjoy Him forever and glorify Him forevermore. Amen. All praise and glory to God alone, to save a wretch like me. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and don't lean on your own understanding, aknowladge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path. Pr 3:5-6.
A few Calvinist troll have been sent by their dark lord to appose this message. This is how they explain to their children the wonders of their false doctrine of Calvinist grace to their children. Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved. We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you. Take comfort knowing that we are not like God. We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did. So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God? So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you. Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases. Will you teach that to your children or grandchildren? Watch their spiritual progress over the ensuing years. I suspect that your answer will be “never.” But why not? Its easy to call yourself a Calvinist but when it comes to saying it anyone can see the hideousness of it. TRUTH IN LOVE This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. Deuteronomy 30: 19-20 Proverbs 1 : 23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings. 24 But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, 25 since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, 26 I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you-
Maybe there is something in between. Can we choose to repent and to believe? Yes. That being said, our own good works are not added to Christ's righteousness to get us into heaven. None of us on own can ever be fit for heaven. There is no self-help gospel.
This in no way refutes Calvinism. It does a good job of destroying a strawman and isolating verses out of context, but in no way challenges the actual Biblical teachings of Calvinism.
Pastor Rogers has it right. It's free choice of whom you follow, Christ or satan, only two choices. 1/3 of the Heavenly angels fell from Paradise in Heaven, and fell to the Earth (this realm outside of Heaven called "The Outer Darkness" in the Bible). Later God created the physical Universe in Earth, and only 2000 years ago Christ came to Earth to save the lost, the sinners (Original sin of following lucifer/satan to Earth against Christ the Lord of all). Our salvation depends on we accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior again, and proving this by our thoughts and behavior. Only those who think as those in Heaven can return to that place, our ancient home. We are those prodigal children, the 1/3 who fell from Heaven, who God forgave and sent His only Son to save us from possible eternal hell. Hell is no longer eternal because Christ defeated satan and built that Bridge of Atonement back to Paradise in Heaven for us. The repentant man on the cross who Jesus said would "....be in Paradise this very day.." is evidence of Christ's saving power. The Bible, the very book of Salvation, says it truly.
So much to take apart here. According to him, God is sovereign except when He deals with salvation. For service, not salvation, but what does mercy and compassion have to do with service. Mercy is God's choice, but it must be preceeded by man's attitude, how is that not meritorious mercy? The text should teach something about the character of God, but not if it leads to election. Everyone is born in sin with a heart of stone or a hard heart. His potter explanation is just wrong. Pots formed for dishonor were used for things like human waste and yes, for eventual destruction when they had served their purposes. To give pots, an inanimate object, some sort of ability to do anything is just nonsense. That's the whole point about this passage, that man can't seek favor with God any more than a pot can choose what it's used for. God gets glory from judgement in hell, but only because people fail to do something as opposed to through God's sovereignty. God wills all man to be saved, but I guess he's not sovereign over that since not everyone will be. Anyone who uses the doctrine of election to limit their gospel preaching doesn't understand it. Whosoever will may come, says nothing about the capacity or ability to do so. The example of the baby is just to appeal to people's emotions. In sin, did my mother conceive me to repeat David's words. I guess aspect theory was before Adrian's time. Overall, it's typical narrow interpretation through mental gymnastics not called for by text. Acts 13:48 'As many as had been appointed (ordained) to eternal life believed.' First the appointment, then the belief.
Adrian is of the lineage of Ismael, so that is what he is preaching. BUT, God, says through Sarah "Cast out the bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Issac." Read your Bible!! ✝️
What happened to ''US''? Has God forgotten ''US'' the chosen Jewish people? No little ones, it is you who have forgotten God Almighty, and rejected Jesus Christ. You didnt read your own Holy Books well enough, or discredited what you didnt want to understand, or tried to refute what you didnt want to hear. God fulfills all his promises, are you paying attention?
he tLKED ON WHAT GOD DIDNT SAY BUT NEVER GOT AROUND TO WHAT GOD DID SAY WHICH IS MY FATHER CHOSE YOU FOR ME BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN/ WHAT THE FATHER GIVES ME NO MAN CAN EVER TAKE AWAY AND NONE WILL BE LOST FOR MY FATHER GAVE THEM TO ME FOR AN INHERITANCS/ YES WE ARE PREDESTINED BY GOD FOR JESUS..GOD KNEW BEFORE TIME BEGAN WHO WOULD CHOSE JESUS....
Respectfully, I suggest study in the original Hebrew & Greek. Many do not understand the concept of salivation. From the beginning of human history, God did not save everyone. Korah & those who rebelled, during the time of Moses, were not saved. Jesus did not save Judas, his own disciple, who was the son of perdition. Ananias and Sophia who lied to the Holy Spirit, and died. They were not saved. Finally, Jesus will say to some in the future, depart from me I never knew you, and they will not be saved either.
And what about that contradicts the message and let’s not assume those that lied to you the Holy Spirit went to hell James speaking to the elect said they could sin unto death.
@@mw-ys1qq I agree with you concerning Ananias and Sapphira, we dont know. The idea that the elect can sin unto death is a contradiction in terms, IMO. They're elect. We are also told in 1John that all who are born again will overcome. I'd suggest the sin leading to death is unbelief in the all sufficient work of Christ.
We do not know for a fact that Ananias and Sapphira were damned. We know that Judas was, I don't think there is any hope there. Keep in mind that I've read a website that stated that Moses was not finally saved. One can't believe everything they read.
@joev2223 and what about 1 Samuel 2 Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that your house and the house of your father should go in and out before me forever,’ but now the LORD declares: ‘Far be it from me, for those who honor me I will honor, and those who despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 31 Behold, the days are coming when I will cut off your strength and the strength of your father's house, so that there will not be an old man in your house. It seems like Gods promise is conditional on you not apostatizing. If God promises aren’t conditional on you not to rejecting him. The only other option I can see is god is admitting he lied. And if sining unto death is a contradiction do you suppose James is not canonical? Because a dead man sining unto death is even more so a contradiction. Leading me to say James was talking about Christian’s sining unto death either physically or spiritually. I think he is speaking of a physical death.
@@mw-ys1qq why do you suppose the sin leading to death is physical? Like, what's your reasoning behind that?. Concerning the other, I don't think it's possible for a true believer (one with faith in Jesus) to apostatize. (spelling?)
Adrian was a fine man, but his views here are so misguided. The whole history of the Reformation is full of Godly world changing Calvinists. All the early mission societies, early Christian colleges, worldwide evangelism etc. was mostly founded by Calvinist. Even Spurgeon who was identifies as a Baptist was a Calvinist. Anto-Calvinist have very little knowledge of Church history after the Reformation. The reformation itself is grounded in Calvinistic understanding of the Doctrines of Grace. You really need to expose yourself to Church history and a lor more education in this area. I know exactly what you believe and scripturally why you believe it but 90% of this shallow teaching here actually knows very little of what Calvinism actually teaches. If you want to actually know what bible words actually mean you are going to be in for some real eye-opening education.
Love Adrian but He, like all who believe in Arminianism, cling to the Idea that Man is Author and Finisher of his own Faith. He subscribes to the " Free Will" gospel that stems from Man's Pride. But Scripture clearly states that's Jesus is the Author and finisher of our Faith. Adrian,like other Preachers, seem to put on Blinders when they get to the part in Roman's chapter 9 that clearly says a Man's fate is "not up to Man who Wills", but up to God. They don't want to see in that chapter the verses that says it is God who is making the choice to make some "Objects of Wrath" and others "Objects of Mercy." Sorry to say Adrian contradicts Himself all thru this Sermon that actually proves "Predestination" by his own words.
Your ignorance is embarrassing.. if Jesus is the author and finisher of your faith and you have no free will then you deserve to go to hell and don't complain about it when you end up there.. those of us who are his actual followers heard the holy gospel, believed on it and accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior
@@busybody1474 Hebrews 12:2 " Jesus, The Author and Finisher of our Faith". Now I'm not talking about the Freedom you have to make every day Mundane Choices, what I'm talking about concerns Salvation, being set free from being a Slave to Sin as we all are until we are Saved, as it states in Romans 6: 20-22. According to Romans we are either Slaves to Sin or Slaves to Righteousness! So what can we do? Can we, of our own understanding and volition set our selves free from the Slavery of Sin? Don't we have the "Free Will" to do that? According to Scripture, NO. Why not? You see, Having Faith in Christ is a Spiritual Matter. Faith in Christ, Repentance and understanding Salvation are all matters of the Spirit. According to 1st Corinthians 2: 14-16 Man "CAN NOT" receive things of the Spirit because they are Spiritually discerned. Man, being carnal, can not know them. So you see, You know nothing of repentance, Faith or what it means to be Saved, in and of your own understanding! You can't Choose to be Saved because you have no understanding of What that even means. You can't have the "Free Will", (which means independent of God's Will,) to choose to believe in anything Spiritual because you have no Knowledge at all of Spiritual matters. So how is one Saved? Jesus said 'No one comes to me that has not been drawn by The Father." That doesn't mean God is standing on the podium begging people to come to the Cross. Neither God or Jesus are beggars. Jesus isn't pleading with you to come to Him. That's not the Character of Jesus and certainly not God. The word "Drawn" in that context, is from the Greek/Hebrew translation that means "As one draws water from a Well." God pulls you out of a Sea of Sinners and to the Cross by His Irresistible Spirit. God grants you repentance Acts 11:18. By doing so, God has Spiritually shown you your relationship to Him as a Sinner in need of forgiveness gives you the understanding that Salvation is through Jesus. God Gives you the Free Gift of Faith Ephesians 2:8-9. Romans 12:3. You then can confess Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you are Saved. You see, God did it all because He chose to. You didn't accept Jesus, Jesus accepted you. Your "Free Will had nothing to do with your being Saved. With out the choice of God to call you to Himself, and provide you with Eternal Life , you would be lost like every other unrepentant Sinner. It's important for Believers to understand the Power of the Holy Spirit and what the Grace of God really means. They should know that God doesn't need their permission to Save them, ( This would give them reason to boast) and that God's Sovereignty affords Him the Ability to Chose whom He Hardens in His Righteous Judgment , and has Mercy on whom He has Mercy, as Scripture states in Roman's 9: 18. Arminianism says YOU have the Will to reject or accept Salvation. This of course would set you on Equal footing with God, having the Power to Resist His Will to Save you. Satan thought he could be like God too, and look how that worked out for him. For that matter, Eve was convinced She could be like God too and convinced Adan of the same thing, and you know how that worked out for them. Don't make the same mistake. I'm thankful that God has my fate in His Hand. When God regenerated my dead Spirit to being made alive in Christ, I began serving God fully and Willfully. I still have my Will and freedom in Christ. I'm not a Robot or a puppet, I'm a servant of the Lord. In your comment You told me to go to Hell. I'm telling you that what free Will you do have means nothing to Almighty God. God does what ever He pleases, and He doesn't need your Will to do it. Since God Bringing Glory to Himself is what we as His creation are here for, it pleases me to be a part of it. Like I said, I've always has fondness for Adrian Rodgers, he brought so much to the Church, but when it came to an understanding of Salvation, we disagreed. He believed he chose Jesus, Calvinist believe Jesus chose Him.
@@randym.7238 Wow you practically wrote a book, and it's a load of crap 💩 we absolutely can choose, it's called The Holy Gospel. You haven't done that and I don't even consider you to be a Christian. You can't get around this verse, God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance... You can't get around that because you're a liar and a fraud and you follow up murdering scoundrel named John Calvin while the rest of us follow Jesus Christ. You don't bother to share the holy gospel because you don't believe on it and you don't bother to teach your children about God because you don't actually believe that they will be saved, only you and your calvinist buddies.. shame on you!!!
He must of have had calvinists in his church. He is doing here what most southern baptist churches try to do and that's to stomp out calvinists from their congregations. But the doctrine of election is in and all over the bible. All Bible knowing Christians know that. No one I know believe swere predestined for hell, absolutely no one. Do you? Ofcourse not. Now, I've heard Pastor Adrian say that he offered little children lollipops if they would only say 'the lords prayer and be saved' that my friend is not the salvation you read about in scripture. How a educated and pious man can dwindle Christ's salvation down to that i don't know but it has taught me that although I believe Adrian is a brother and someone worthy to be listened to. You do need to use discretion when listening to him and READ YOUR BIBLE so that you can know when to discern for that OTHER GOSPEL that occasionally spills from the southern baptist pulpit.
I'm trying to understand calvinism. Our new calvinist pastor said God passes over some and chooses the others. I feel 'passing over means the same thing as choosing some for hell. He says we can't question God as it's all for his sovereign glory. Im having a hard time with this doctrine.
@@map218 The reason you are having problems with it is because it is a false gospel. It is a mystery why anyone would not only want to follow it but would do all in their power to defend it.
Terrible hermeneutics, connects passages hundreds of years apart as though it was one passage. God foreknew and foresaw the children as men, and the nations that came from them. What deceptive teachings!
What Reformed, Deformed theology is the Doctrine of Demons called 5-POINT Calvinism. It reduces its followers to mindless, thoughtless, puppet, robots. Spewing out Calvin's doctrine of demons .
The Bible cross references itself all the time - that is one of the proof's of its authenticity as the Word of God. The Scripture is in perfect harmony with itself and it is all useful for teaching as it is written in Timothy.
Paul says..." though we or an angel fm ..heaven preach any other gospel unto you then that we preached unto you...let him be.....ACCURSED..." that's not exactly " agreeing to...disagree..."... folks..." ACCURSED..." Here is ...EXCOMMUNICATED....ya out....O.U.P...!!!!!! That should nullify all this..." wishy washy..agree to disagree..." b.s....Our Lord said " ya either w/ me or against me...." He certainly didn't say..." ok...that's fine we can agree to disagree...."... their " disagreement ended in hatred...& the Cross...." contending for the Faith...." is not agreeing to disagree...Jude3
Calvinism is a COUNTSRFEIT....Protestantism....just as Roman Catholicism is a...COUNTERFEIT....Christianity....And Adrian Roger,s ministry...is the best reflection of Biblical Protestantism....or what's left of it....& to say the least....not much.....to say the most.....very little....thx in large measure to those self appointed so called..." Evangelical..." Leaders that became more " ECUMENICAL....." beginning in the early 70,s...& less & less " Evangelical...".... that failed & failed miserably to teach the ASSurance....Security.....& Guarantee of our So Great Salvation...Heb.2:3.... once they became....believers...& most having struggled to gain a sense of the ASSurance of Salvation....opted for Catholic Calvinism,s pseudo...ASSurance....bc if ya Elected & Chosen...to be saved....oh...B/4 The foundation of the world of....course....then ya can't be...." UNELECTED...". hence a false sense of Security & ASSurance....WHY????? simple really....NOBODY,S ever Elected to be saved or lost....WHY????bc God,s Election has NOTHING.....NADA....& NIL'.... To do w/ Who,s going to heaven & who,s going to...helll...& certainly has nothing to do w/ tossing innocent babies into hell ...hellooooooo....
That is a very solid counter argument to the very erroneous calvinistic theology. 👍👍👍
Honest and thorough refutation of Calvinism. We need more men like him these days preaching the pure, uncorrupted Gospel of Jesus Christ to restore proper understanding of certain passages of Scripture that have been hijacked by Calvinists.
When you hear people singing this song you know who their lord is.
"Jesus loves me, this I know.
As for you, I don't think so.
Only some to Him belong. We are right and you are wrong.
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
Yes, Jesus loves me!
But I hope this isn't effervescent grace that I'm walking in and instead I'm actually deceived and one of the reprobates that He created to burn as a candle for His glory in Hell forever."
The verdict to those who preach this Heresy!
This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. Deuteronomy 30: 19-20
Proverbs 1 : 23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings. 24 But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, 25 since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, 26 I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you-
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Jacob have i loved but esau have i hated ! you know nothing of scripture !
@@alvinhickling901 Very good point! I totally understand what you are saying!
Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad-in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: 12not by works but by him who calls-she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13Just as it is written: “Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.” Romans 9: 11-13
NOTE "Just as it is written!" Well where is it written? It is written in Genesis 25: 23!
The Lord said to her, (Rebekah)
“Two nations are in your womb,
and two peoples from within you will be separated;
one people will be stronger than the other,
and the older will serve the younger.”
It was talking about nations not individuals! In there lives the older DID NOT serve the younger. But the Nations did!
When the Bible referred to Esau and Jacob it was referring to THE NATIONS THEY REPRESENTED NOT THE INDIVIDUALS. But I know your John Calvin training will not allow you to see that.
This is a classic example where the Calvinist mind has been trained by their cult leaders to NEVER let themselves be cornered with context! Context is the enemy of Calvinism. So in this case they are ordered to stop the verse before you get to the "AS IT IS WRITTEN" part, or this so called proof text supporting Calvinism evaporates.
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@@alvinhickling901 Calvinists believe god created all things, and controls all things, predetermined all things,
and made all things exactly the way they are.... thus god also created evil.
therefore since calvinists believe god created evil.
they are blaspheming against the holy spirit ... the only unforgivable sin.
calvinists also believe the only people who will be saved have been predetermined by god.
and since calvinists believe god predetermined who will be saved ... they have removed free will - the gift of god to humans, and removed jesus from the equation.
since god (according to calvinists) has already determined who will be saved ... (and who will not be saved) ... those who will be saved do not need christ and those who will not be saved cannot come to christ.
thus calvinists are not christians.
Can a person be saved trusting in something other than Christ Jesus? NO! They are trusting in the hope of election not Christ!
Is it possible to be in a reformed church and be saved. Yes but that is in spite of the heresy. They must have put their faith in Christ separately from what is taught. Just like those in the Catholic Cult. There could be baby christians that have no clue what they are sitting under. If they wake up and listen to the Holy Spirit they would run out of the Hive screaming!
Calvinism is NOT just another Christian denomination. It is a Cult. A doctrine of demons. Strangely how those in it, defend it to their deaths. That is how Satan, not God blinds them to the truth. But that is their God given right of free will, to do so.
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@@truth7416 GOD did NOT create eveil satan did , BUT satan is gods devil and he uses even satan to acomplish HIS purpose !
Can't wait to thank Adrian for helping me raise my son who is now in the Marine Corps serving his country. And because of Adrian Rogers sermons and my son and I reading God's word every single night since he was born my son is 19 and never kissed a girl and is still a virgin praise God
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All praises to the lord Jesus
TGBTG good saint Amen🙏😇
Amazing. Good shepherding
This message is a TOTAL BLESSING!!!! It speaks TRUTH to the DAMNABLE LIE of Calvinism.
It speaks to total ignorance of Calvinism AND biblical exegesis. James White covered this sermon and obliterated it with properly and consistently exegeted scripture. This sermon never touched Calvinism, just a straw man version that doesn't exist.
@@Michael_Chandler_Keaton James White believes the DAMNABLE LIE of Calvinism that you apparently do. Now get off of here, you troller.
I have NEVER heard a message from God's servant Adrian Roger's that was not life changing. God Bless his ongoing ministry
We need more preaching like this! Especially in these days of confusion!
Amen Phil!
Please pray for me everyone that reads this I need the intercession of Gods Children thank you for considering
Adrian is the most powerful , knowledgeable disciple I’ve ever heard !… thank you God for your servant Adrian
Him and Billy Graham were friends too. They knew each other.
“There are two things that are absolutely clear in Scripture-one is that God by His foreknowledge has predestinated all who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ “to be conformed to the image of His Son” (Rom. 8:29). Predestination is never to heaven nor yet to hell; but always to special privilege in and with Christ. All who believe in Him were chosen in Christ “before the foundation of the world.” Harry Ironside
Another great sermon by great Pastor Adrian Rogers I miss you buddy
Those who have deeply studied the Calvinist view, or came out of it,,,know Adrian is preaching the true Biblical perspective
I hear this amazing pastor speak straight to my heart and ask God to forgive me of all unrighteousness and lead me on the straight and narrow path, to look upon Jesus and ask for forgiveness of my sins.
I confess Jesus Christ as lord and saviour who died for my sins then God raised him from the dead. I believe
AMEN
This has been a disagreement for me and my husband. I hope he will watch this with an open heart to the holy spirit. Thank you Lord for preachers like Adrian Roger's.
We left a church that was teaching Calvinism. They were holding to the doctrine of election , in a devisive way.
Im still alive.Thank you Lord Jesus for giving me another day to gaze my eyes upon all of your creation. Though its a world of sin. May the moments i live be to glorify, serve and honor you. Happy Birthday Lord Jesus 2018.
I love you so much Adrian. You are and were God sent. Thank you so much for all your lessons and truth and concern. I can't wait to be with you in heaven, and I am so glad that we are in Christ together forever!!!
It's a blessing to hear Adrian Roger's message still going 💯💞💪🙏💝😇
Whosoever will what a message of hope!!! Not whoever is perfect or privileged but all and everyone!!!! Glory to GOD!!
God desires all to be saved but only those who truly believe are saved. I see total depravity more that apart from Jesus I am in serious trouble. I am totally unable in myself to meet God's perfect standard only the gift of Christ's righteousness. That being said those who are true believers are Under Grace and not Under Law like unbelievers.
I’ve always loved listening to Adrian Rogers.
What a Godly man Adrian was. Very gifted in making difficult passages so clear .
It’s specifically the false doctrine of double predestination and denial of human free will that turns God into the author of sin and a morally objectionable Creator, who gives the damned no free will choice whatsoever and allows them to go to hell for eternity. That’s neither biblical nor historic Christianity, and it is morally contemptible.
You're obviously an atheist. I remember the atheist formula: insult God insult Christians insult Christianity = you win the debate. Makes zero sense. You don't believe so obviously you don't understand. Btw you're absolutely wrong. Shame.
Just right on time! A big thanks to this message pastor Rogers. More grace to your ministry.
Even as someone that leans hard to the Doctrines of Grace, I appreciate this brother in Christ. We must learn the needful concept of learning to disagree apart from portraying the other party as a villain. Our disagreements may be serious, yet we both belong to Jesus. We should act like it.
Praise God!!! I will never get enough of this kind of solid teaching!
Very well spoken. This message explained Romans 9 for me very well.
God’s Word preached without equivocation. Adrian preached Jesus without shame or compromise. The greatest Southern Baptist preacher who ever lived.
Please Jesus I want mercy
John 6:37
We thank God for this awesome Pastors messages! His teachings live on… Thank you! Jesus 💁🏾🇺🇸🙏🕊️
Open your bible ❤️
Give God all the Glory!
I'm always blessed whenever I listen to Pst Adrian Rogers profound message of the cross. I thank God even though the messenger is gone but the messages still go on.
Calvinism is just another false gospel that we are warned about in Galatians. It's heretical and it preaches a god that is NOT the God of the Bible. How hard is it to understand that "God wishes NONE to perish but ALL to come to repentance"? 2 Peter 3:9 or "...WHOSOEVER believes in Jesus..."John 3:16 or "Jesus is the propitiation (payment)for our (the saved) sins: and not for ours (the saved) only, but also for the sins of the WHOLE world." That doesn't sound like only the elect to me.
Hello love with finding thank you very much for putting on Adrian and Rogers I watch him everyday on CZcams and listen to the radio I've been listening to Adrian Rogers ever since I came to America I am from Ukraine and I'm praying for Ukraine thank you very much God bless and stay safe ☺️
Jesus died on the cross for your sin and my sin, why would a loving God predestined for some to go to hell and others not.
He wouldn't. I fully agree with God as Adrian Rodgers is explaining...
Thank you loving father in heaven most high God for your long suffering for the world, may your name be Glorified IJN. Adrian Rogers, thanks for encouraging us all.
The Lord made man free moral agents in order that they could voluntarily chose to believe and to serve God, or to voluntarily turn their backs on him harding their hearts and serve carnal man.
Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: *for in the image of God made he man*
{Genesis 9:6}
If man was not created a free moral agent, then he was not created in the image of God.
I love this godly man. If only another Adrian Rogers would be born today. We have many godly, biblical preachers but never another like Dr. Rogers. I can't wait to meet him in heaven.
Whosoever will!! Amen again!
This is the clearest argument I have heard against Calvinism. Wow.
I needed this message from the lord
A truly great man of God, was Adrian Rogers!
God is souverain He can give and He take whatever whenever wherever .. according to His will !!!
This was EPIC ! Calvinism killer, right there ! Proper context of all those verses that have been twisted.
I would love for this guy and John Piper get together and discuss this topic. Because John Piper being a calvanist believes that some are predestined for hell. Which is false. And he preaches on the topic that doesn't fully explain it, but justifies it as being a 'mystery'. And people listen and agree without diving deeper into it.
Unfortunately that is impossible as Adrian died several years ago.
God knows we arr going to be in heaven or hell but at the same time it's a choice God gives us
Amen❤️❤️❤️❤️
God is sovereign… what does sovereign mean? Does God give up his will and yield to man’s? No! Man by nature loves darkness, and as such we would never choose Christ. However, by God giving us the Holy Spirit and giving us the ability to “hear” and “see” the good news, then and only then can we know him, and believe in him. No man seeks for God. It is very clear. May we give God all credit for salvation, and May we boast in him because he first loved us. Without his great love, we could not love him. Praise God.
So true God's word never passes void.
Heaven and earth will pass away but Gods word goes on forever.
Last part with paraphrase
Thank you again!
Wonderful word
A MAN OF GOD..🙏🏽
I, for one, enjoyed listening to this message! This really throws light on these scriptures and is absolutely reasonable in the way he preached this.
Thank GOD for letting me hear this , my appreciation abounds! The torment on a soul when you deny what GOD tells you is unbearable, don't quench the spirit brethren, say what needs saying and rest from the yoke of this world. Thank you Jesus for loving me when i didnt even love myself!
One of the greatest terraces in the church is the deception that once you’re saved, you cannot lose salvation. Nothing could be further from the truth.
Thank you Pastor Adrian!! Solid teaching on the scriptures!Just earlier today, I was listening to someone talking about how some people are just predestined for hell. It was so depressing and made me feel for people,like I can see how someone would want to give up and think what’s the use.
Calvinist have absolutely NO concern for winning souls as they believe it is impossible and a waste of time.
God arranges all things by his sovereign counsel, in such a way that individuals are born, who are doomed from the womb to certain death and are to glorify him by their destruction.( John Calvin Institutes of Christian Religion, Book 3, Chapter 23, Paragraph 6)
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Nope. Just to convert Christians to Calvinism. But not to lead souls to Christ.
Jim brown Grace and truth ministries. The only preacher on CZcams telling the truth
John17v12
I have lost none but the son of pedition that scripture might
Be fulfilled!
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AND we've All gone astray! There's no one righteous NOT even one! AND yet when His mercy showed up in our lives individually, we were up to that point sons of wrath, so we at that moment by Grace we stopped being vessels of wrath and gave us the Righteous Obedience of The Second Adam, Jesus Christ Himself!, so that in Him we are NOW the Righteousness of God because of Christ Jesus, and were made alive in Him... granting us His Righteousness and circumcised our hearts, making us vessels of honor, For His Glory, our condemnation has been nailed to the Cross! He defeated our sins and conquered our death
I cannot believe me being a Mexican I have a GOD who is Jew !!! Hallelujah
Free and God’s sovereignty are a mystery I would say. Both are true. Both are opposing concepts, in a way. Again, both true.
Adrian Rogers would often say he is glad we cannot understand all things like our God, or He wouldn’t be God.
God is the only creator. God created hell and He created people who will be in that hell.
Confusion is the only word that is appropriate to summarize this message. How can the All powerful Good want all of mankind to be saved, yet some men will harden their own hearts and reject Salvation. Will someone from this ministry respond to the following question. Is the will of mankind more powerful than the Sovereign will of God concerning salvation?
Jason Manchester it is the result of free will. If everything ideal and perfect as Christ, then there would be absolutely no need for a savior.
Yes, the methods & ways of the Lord are impossible to fathom let alone understand. For me, I try not to get too hung up on thoughts such as “if God is so loving, how come he always so much evil to exist”?
The best answer I have heard to this question is that a world without hardships & heartache would lead to us viewing ourselves as gods. Think about it. If there’s was never anything negative experienced in our lives-would be be humble to do kind things for others? Would we have soft hearts our fellow men and/or God? The answer is no. There would be no need or want for any outside help. The world needs evil to exist so that humans can show, by example, the love of God.
I hope I was able to relate this in a way that can be comprehended. I have a brain injury & am always working to convey my thoughts in an understandable way.
Merry Christmas and God Bless You and Your Family.
My God is powerful enough to remain fully sovereign (in control) while at the same time granting full autonomous libertarian free will to His creation. Is yours? The true gospel of Christ is this, God loves all, God died for all, God calls all, God seeks to save all, God promises all can believe and be saved and God commands all to repent and believe. To preach anything contrary is to preach a false gospel.
2 Corinthians 5:14-15, 19
"14 For the love of Christ compels us, because we judge thus: that if One died for ALL, then ALL died; 15 and He died FOR ALL, that those who live should live no loner for themselves, but for Him who died for them and rose again...19 that is, that God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation."1
Timothy 2:3-6
“3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for All, to be testified in due time,”
Luke 5:32
"I have not come to call the righteous, but Sinners, to repentance."
Acts 17:30
"Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,"
God wants all to be saved. But all don't want to be saved.
If you were forced into accepting Christ, would it be love?
If someone married you for the simple reason of not having a choice, would it be genuine love?
The Bible tells us that God wants all to be saved. Not that God will save everyone.
@@djohnson3093 I mean what if I just don't want to go to hell. Its not really a choice made out of love.
I do believe Jesus is very very real but I came to Him because I don't have much of a choice. If you know for certain that all of this is very real you do not have a choice.
Like you used the example of marriage. I could marry someone if I'm homeless and desperate and terrified and no it wouldn't be genuine love, i just don't have much of a choice. Its either that or suffer a horrible fate. And even if im not happy i have to force myself to be grateful because its better than the alternative. That's how I feel about Him honestly.
I actually hate being alive and my experience has been awful and frankly I hate Him for what I've been through, but if I don't choose Him I can spend the rest of my life being tortured by demons and eventually going to hell. There's no love in that choice.
@@marytitus88 Bottom line, God Loves You beyond anything you can ever imagine. He offers salvation to all who want to accept him . What a joy to know Jesus !!
Romans 10:9-13
We are dead in trespassrs and sins. A dead man/ woman cannot choose anything because they're dead. God has chosen His elect before the foundation of the world. Those who who are called receive grace and those who are not saved receive justice. God's ways are perfect and higher then our ways and His thoughts then out thoughts. I love my brother Adrian and believe he was a strong man of God but we don't choose God, He chose us.
When the prodigal son comes home his dad says rejoice for my son was dead and us now alive. He was lost and now is found.
The son came to his father of his own accord. He was dead in the same sway we are dead in sin. When he came the father welcomed his son with more than he expected. This is how it is with God.
John 6:37
To Jason Manchester with love, I perceive that in the pride of knowledge you may be confused in worship of Theology! "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints." (1 Cor 14:33) When faced with confusion or unanswered questions concerning our Creator (Father), Savior (Word) or self, I go to the source, holy scripture, for uncorrupted knowledge and council (Holy Spirit). "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul." (Gen 2:7) Our conscience bears witness of right and wrong in the Holy Spirit. (Romans 2:15, 9:1) But beware of a defiled conscience by a hardened heart of self-deceit: this is the mystery of iniquity. After mankind's disobedience, "the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Gen 3:22) Though sovereign, heavenly Father has always given individuals a choice (free will). But, our Hallowed Father cannot allow corruption to inherit his kingdom. Everyone knows this! We do not need a man to teach us God's will. It is written, "Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish." (Mathew 18:14) God is calling each individual personally, to salvation. This is our first concern and personal choice between life or death. It is written, "Teach me to do thy will; for thou art my God: thy spirit is good; lead me into the land of uprightness." (Psalm 143:10)
Ephesians 1:4. He chose us in Christ, before the foundation of the world. There are many, many, more Scriptures that tell us this truth. So who do we believe God, or Mr Rogers. Don't misunderstand me, I love to listen to Mr Rogers, this is the first time I heard him talk on election. He did a lot of maneuvering in Rom 9, to prove his point, but, I hate to say it. He totally misinterpreted Rom 9.
When does God choose people? When they are in Christ. How does God choose people to be in Christ? By hearing and believing the gospel of salvstion. Read Eph 1:13.
Eph 1:4 tells that it is the purpose of choosing that is before the foundation of the world for those in Christ, and that is to be holy and blameless in his sight.
God's choosing of individuals is not done before the creation of the world, but when the individuals hear and believe the gospel of salvation (Eph 1:13).
@@anicetosalas4808 No, you wrong, you are interpreting Eph 1, to fit your free will theology, which the Scripture in Eph 1, clearly does not teach. Nor does the rest of the Scripture, teach free will salvation. Salvation is not, because out of your free will you chose Christ, No, never. Never, has anyone received salvation from Christ on account of their free will. Salvation is of the Lord if you are truly born of of Him, not because of your free will, choosing Christ. Scripture says all sinners are dead in trespasses and sins, Eph 2. Scripture says no one seeks after God. Romans 3:10-18. Our free will, before we are born again by the Holy Spirit, is bound in our sins, and we did the deeds of our sinful will, because we were slaves to our sins. John 8:34. Rom 6:6, 6:16, 6:22, Gal 5:1, 2 Peter 2:19. So many more Scriptures proving that we were slaves to sin, and dead to righteousness. For you to say that out of your free will you chose Christ and salvation, is for you to deny that you were a slave to sin, and that your free will was bound in your sins in your sinful nature, which Eph 2:1-7, tells us about, and then V8-10. Tells us the true gospel and how God saves a sinner, and brings him to life, and salvation in Christ Jesus. God tells us, how He saves us, V8, by His grace, through faith, not of ourselves, (free will) it is the gift of God, not of works (free will) last anyone should boast. Please stop boasting before God, right to His face, by saying to Him, Lord, by my free will I chose to be saved by You, I am boasting in the power of my free will, Lord, even though you tell me in you word that I was born in sin and a slave to my sins, I don't believe that, even though you tell me in Ephesians 2, all sinners are dead in trespasses and their sins, i don't believe that, even though Jesus said no one can come to Me, unless the Father draws them to Me, I don't believe that either, even though, Rom 3:10-18, declares the total depravity of mans sinful nature, i don't believe that either. Friend, I have to tell you, you don't believe a lot of Scripture, by which God's word clearly has shown you, that, true salvation in Christ, is the work of the Holy Spirit, by His grace, (nothing to do with us,) by faith (which is also a gift from God Eph 12:3) and it is the faith that comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. No one is saved without the true Gospel of Christ and Him crucified for our sins and rose again for our justification. The elect by God, chosen and predestined by God for salvation, must come through the Cross of Christ, just as Scripture says, John 3:16. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. The Elect of God, whom He has predestined before the foundation of the world they will believe in the Cross of Christ and receive His salvation. John 1:10-13. V10, He was in the world, and the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. V11, His own did not receive Him, V12, but as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God. Please listen carefully V11 says, as many as received Him, He gave the right to become the children of God, to those who believe in His name, how did they become to believe in His name, V13 tells us, Who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Friend, no room to boast in your free will, none whatsoever. You are sinning with your boasting, because you say, out of your own free will you came to Christ and received His salvation. Please, give God the glory for saving your soul, and don't glory in your free will for the salvation of your soul. You have made your free will, an idol, that can not save anyone. Just as Jesus said in John 1:13, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Please, repent, stop boasting. Recognize, that it is of God, that we are in Christ and Him alone, not of your free will, friend, not of my free will, But of God. Please, hear the truth of God's word which is crystal clear, Salvation is His work by the Holy Spirit in our soul, by conviction of our sin, righteousness, and judgment, as God draws us to His Beloved Son Jesus Christ, and Him crucified for our sins, God opens our eyes by the Holy Spirit to see ourselves as wretched sinners in desperate need to be cleansed and forgiven of all our sins, we are brought to our knees before Christ and His Cross, and we cry out for mercy, by confession of our sins to Him, we repent, we ask forgiveness, and trust Him, by submitting to Him as our Lord and Savior, walking in the power of the Holy Spirit, doing His will, by which God, predestined us to be conformed into the image of His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. Rom 8:28-39.
@@Jeremiah17910 Good for you for taking a stand for the TRUTH. 😇
1Peter 2:8. ...for they stumble because they are disobedient to the word, and to this doom they were also appointed.
It is written...Jacob I loved but Esau I hated.
Man's pride and arrogance believes he chooses Jesus, but God resists the proud and the arrogant.
It is written...HIS Sovereignty rules over ALL.
@@cindyrehder7311 what about the people throughout the world who lived in the OT times who were not Abraham's descendents, they all died in their sins, and are lost forever. Not all Abraham's descendants were saved either, the whole generation of unbelieving descendants of Abraham whom God delivered through Moses and Arron out of slavery from Egypt,
died in the wilderness because of their unbelief. Whosoever believes the true gospel of Christ and Him crucified for our sins and risen from the dead for our justification, and bows before the Lord in confession of sin, repentance, becomes born again by the Holy Spirit and a follower of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior are the ones who are saved. It is the sin of unbelief, those who die in their sins unforgiven are the ones who will spend eternity separated from God in the place called lake of fire. God is the Almighty Sovereign Creator, who never changes. He is Holy. Actually He specifically created 4 living creatures who are around the throne of God day and night they do not cease to say, Holy, Holy, Holy, is The LORD God Almighty, Who was, and is, and is to come. Rev 4:8. We are all unholy deserving of hell fire. If God would have chosen not to save us at all and send us all to hell forever, He will still be as Holy and as loving as ever because He doesn't change. The only reason we are not consumed by Him in judgment is because of His mercy. Lamentations 3:22-23. God is Sovereign, yet He hasn't chosen to save everyone. Please remember we the sinners are at the mercy of God. Daniel 4:35 says, All inhabitants of the earth are regarded as nothing, He does as He pleases among the host of heaven and among the inhabitants of the earth, no one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, what have You done. God's word clearly teaches that God is not at the mercy of sinners and their will. He is not sitting on His Sovereign throne, looking down waiting and hoping some sinner will believe in Christ for salvation, but is all disappointed because so many mortal sinners are rejecting His salvation in Christ and He can't do anything about it. What? Really the Creator God, is bowing down to man's choice of Him. The Bible clearly teaches that salvation is of God. John 1:13, who were born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Salvation is of God. He can save every soul He ever created if He willed to do that, but we know that not everyone is saved. All the people who believe the true gospel of Christ are the elect of God.
@@cindyrehder7311 you shouldn't be amazed, everything I said was from the word of God. If you were a student of God's word you would know the true God as He has revealed Himself in Scripture and you would worship Him in spirit and in truth for all His glorious attributes, including His Sovereignty over the salvation of sinners. Everything in His universe, is preordained before He spoke it into existence as recorded in Genesis. In Him all things hold together Col 1:17. God works all things according to the counsel of His will. Eph 1:11. Not your will not my will not anyone's will, but, according to His will. Friend, you need to submit to the Sovereign Almighty Creator God and live by His word, or alse you will be tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine.... Eph 4:14. Trust the finished work of Christ on His cross for your salvation, recognize that you are saved by grace through faith and that not of yourselves is a gift of God, not of works, that no one may boast. Eph 2:8-9. Please don't boast on your free will, fallen human free will, is a will, that is slave to sin Rom 6:20. And before you were saved you did what your sinful free will wanted to do, and you chose to sin with great joy like the rest of humanity. But not anymore as a child of God, now you live by the power of the Holy Spirit who set you free from slavery to sin, and made you a servant of righteousness. Not that we never stumble and fall short of His glory, every time we sin especially as His children we fall short of His glory. But we have an advocate our Lord Jesus Christ who intercedes for us day and night before the throne of God. And we are instructed in 1 John 1:9, if confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness. Amazing grace of God. By the way I never once read anything that Calvin wrote, not once. I am not so called Calvinist, I am not no man follower, Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I study Scripture, the Holy Spirit is my teacher, I take no credit zero for my salvation, It is all the work of God's grace by the Holy Spirit to bring me to the cross of Christ and there cause me to be born again and adopted into His eternal family to enjoy Him forever and glorify Him forevermore. Amen. All praise and glory to God alone, to save a wretch like me. Trust in the Lord with all your heart and don't lean on your own understanding, aknowladge Him in all your ways and He will direct your path. Pr 3:5-6.
A few Calvinist troll have been sent by their dark lord to appose this message.
This is how they explain to their children the wonders of their false doctrine of Calvinist grace to their children.
Little Johnny, God has predestined the minority of people to be saved and go to heaven forever, and He has predestined the majority of people to be eternally damned and burn in the fires of hell. We have no idea, little Johnny, if God has predestined you to be forever damned or forever saved.
We love you, little Johnny, but we accept the fact that God might not love you, and that He may have plans to send you to hell for your future sins. If you do find yourself one day burning in hell because He hasn’t elected to save you, just remember that we will always love you, even if God hates you.
Take comfort knowing that we are not like God.
We will be in heaven forever only because we were unconditionally chosen for salvation before we were born. That would be the only reason that we won’t be in hell with you if you find yourself there. It won’t be because of anything we did.
So also take comfort in knowing that. It may not seem fair, but who are we to judge God?
So again, if you find yourself in hell, remember that we will always love you as we forever worship the God who loved us but who hated you, the God who sent His Son to die for us but not for you.
Please, we ask, don’t let it bother you-if you find yourself in hell-that we love the God who hated you and showed you no mercy. We must accept the fact that God is sovereign, and He does what He pleases.
Will you teach that to your children or grandchildren? Watch their spiritual progress over the ensuing years.
I suspect that your answer will be “never.” But why not? Its easy to call yourself a Calvinist but when it comes to saying it anyone can see the hideousness of it.
TRUTH IN LOVE
This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live 20and that you may love the Lord your God, listen to his voice, and hold fast to him. Deuteronomy 30: 19-20
Proverbs 1 : 23 Repent at my rebuke! Then I will pour out my thoughts to you, I will make known to you my teachings. 24 But since you refuse to listen when I call and no one pays attention when I stretch out my hand, 25 since you disregard all my advice and do not accept my rebuke, 26 I in turn will laugh when disaster strikes you; I will mock when calamity overtakes you-
So if God don’t make people to go to hell, what is the purpose of Judas to betrayed Jesus?
It was Judas's choice. God can use your free will choice to do His will regardless...
@@oreally8605 read john 17: 12
Where’s the rest of this testimony?
Maybe there is something in between. Can we choose to repent and to believe? Yes. That being said, our own good works are not added to Christ's righteousness to get us into heaven. None of us on own can ever be fit for heaven. There is no self-help gospel.
Adrian Rogers never made the argument of good works getting you into Heaven. You brought a point that's irrelevant to this sermon.
@@noybiznatch I get that but some especially in Catholic church say saved by grace but kept saved by works. Continue in the faith.
Tell the Hells Angels that God has predestined them to Hell (Hades and then the lake of fire) and they will rejoice!
Wrong. #1 they'd attack you if you said that. #2 If they saw one second of the lake of FIRE, they wouldn't want to go.
@@oreally8605 You are wrong.
See the problem on the other hand is a self-righteous pride based christianity which will send a person to hell.
This in no way refutes Calvinism. It does a good job of destroying a strawman and isolating verses out of context, but in no way challenges the actual Biblical teachings of Calvinism.
Calvinism's SYSTEMATIC DOCTRINE, from a mere man ... is a doctrine made from the pits of Hell.
@@noybiznatchAmen!!
And no, the Jews didnt give us the Messiah, God Almighty, YAHWEH, GAVE US THE MESSIAH.
Pastor Rogers has it right. It's free choice of whom you follow, Christ or satan, only two choices. 1/3 of the Heavenly angels fell from Paradise in Heaven, and fell to the Earth (this realm outside of Heaven called "The Outer Darkness" in the Bible). Later God created the physical Universe in Earth, and only 2000 years ago Christ came to Earth to save the lost, the sinners (Original sin of following lucifer/satan to Earth against Christ the Lord of all). Our salvation depends on we accepting Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior again, and proving this by our thoughts and behavior.
Only those who think as those in Heaven can return to that place, our ancient home. We are those prodigal children, the 1/3 who fell from Heaven, who God forgave and sent His only Son to save us from possible eternal hell. Hell is no longer eternal because Christ defeated satan and built that Bridge of Atonement back to Paradise in Heaven for us. The repentant man on the cross who Jesus said would "....be in Paradise this very day.." is evidence of Christ's saving power. The Bible, the very book of Salvation, says it truly.
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So much to take apart here. According to him, God is sovereign except when He deals with salvation. For service, not salvation, but what does mercy and compassion have to do with service. Mercy is God's choice, but it must be preceeded by man's attitude, how is that not meritorious mercy? The text should teach something about the character of God, but not if it leads to election. Everyone is born in sin with a heart of stone or a hard heart. His potter explanation is just wrong. Pots formed for dishonor were used for things like human waste and yes, for eventual destruction when they had served their purposes. To give pots, an inanimate object, some sort of ability to do anything is just nonsense. That's the whole point about this passage, that man can't seek favor with God any more than a pot can choose what it's used for. God gets glory from judgement in hell, but only because people fail to do something as opposed to through God's sovereignty. God wills all man to be saved, but I guess he's not sovereign over that since not everyone will be. Anyone who uses the doctrine of election to limit their gospel preaching doesn't understand it. Whosoever will may come, says nothing about the capacity or ability to do so. The example of the baby is just to appeal to people's emotions. In sin, did my mother conceive me to repeat David's words. I guess aspect theory was before Adrian's time. Overall, it's typical narrow interpretation through mental gymnastics not called for by text. Acts 13:48 'As many as had been appointed (ordained) to eternal life believed.' First the appointment, then the belief.
Adrian is of the lineage of Ismael, so that is what he is preaching. BUT, God, says through Sarah "Cast out the bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, even with Issac."
Read your Bible!! ✝️
You got the wrong jews and you know it!
Revelation 3 verse 9
Those people over there are converts, And you know it!
What happened to ''US''? Has God forgotten ''US'' the chosen Jewish people? No little ones, it is you who have forgotten God Almighty, and rejected Jesus Christ. You didnt read your own Holy Books well enough, or discredited what you didnt want to understand, or tried to refute what you didnt want to hear. God fulfills all his promises, are you paying attention?
Jesus Christ died for Jews and gentiles alike
The question is, who are the real Jews? The people in modern Israel are not the original Jews from the Bible. He is somewhat confused!
And then they had him crucified 9:32
he tLKED ON WHAT GOD DIDNT SAY BUT NEVER GOT AROUND TO WHAT GOD DID SAY WHICH IS MY FATHER CHOSE YOU FOR ME BEFORE THE WORLD BEGAN/ WHAT THE FATHER GIVES ME NO MAN CAN EVER TAKE AWAY AND NONE WILL BE LOST FOR MY FATHER GAVE THEM TO ME FOR AN INHERITANCS/ YES WE ARE PREDESTINED BY GOD FOR JESUS..GOD KNEW BEFORE TIME BEGAN WHO WOULD CHOSE JESUS....
😂😂prédestination & chosen. God chose the Jews when how ? You are confused !
Respectfully, I suggest study in the original Hebrew & Greek. Many do not understand the concept of salivation. From the beginning of human history, God did not save everyone. Korah & those who rebelled, during the time of Moses, were not saved. Jesus did not save Judas, his own disciple, who was the son of perdition. Ananias and Sophia who lied to the Holy Spirit, and died. They were not saved. Finally, Jesus will say to some in the future, depart from me I never knew you, and they will not be saved either.
And what about that contradicts the message and let’s not assume those that lied to you the Holy Spirit went to hell James speaking to the elect said they could sin unto death.
@@mw-ys1qq I agree with you concerning Ananias and Sapphira, we dont know. The idea that the elect can sin unto death is a contradiction in terms, IMO. They're elect. We are also told in 1John that all who are born again will overcome. I'd suggest the sin leading to death is unbelief in the all sufficient work of Christ.
We do not know for a fact that Ananias and Sapphira were damned. We know that Judas was, I don't think there is any hope there. Keep in mind that I've read a website that stated that Moses was not finally saved. One can't believe everything they read.
@joev2223 and what about 1 Samuel 2 Therefore the LORD, the God of Israel, declares: ‘I promised that your house
and the house of your father should go in and out before me forever,’ but now
the LORD declares: ‘Far be it from me, for those who honor me I will honor, and
those who despise me shall be lightly esteemed. 31 Behold, the days are coming
when I will cut off your strength and the strength of your father's house, so
that there will not be an old man in your house.
It seems like Gods promise is conditional on you not apostatizing. If God promises aren’t conditional on you not to rejecting him. The only other option I can see is god is admitting he lied.
And if sining unto death is a contradiction do you suppose James is not canonical? Because a dead man sining unto death is even more so a contradiction. Leading me to say James was talking about Christian’s sining unto death either physically or spiritually. I think he is speaking of a physical death.
@@mw-ys1qq why do you suppose the sin leading to death is physical? Like, what's your reasoning behind that?. Concerning the other, I don't think it's possible for a true believer (one with faith in Jesus) to apostatize. (spelling?)
Adrian was a fine man, but his views here are so misguided. The whole history of the Reformation is full of Godly world changing Calvinists. All the early mission societies, early Christian colleges, worldwide evangelism etc. was mostly founded by Calvinist. Even Spurgeon who was identifies as a Baptist was a Calvinist. Anto-Calvinist have very little knowledge of Church history after the Reformation. The reformation itself is grounded in Calvinistic understanding of the Doctrines of Grace. You really need to expose yourself to Church history and a lor more education in this area. I know exactly what you believe and scripturally why you believe it but 90% of this shallow teaching here actually knows very little of what Calvinism actually teaches. If you want to actually know what bible words actually mean you are going to be in for some real eye-opening education.
Calvinism is a systematic doctrine from the pits of Hell. None of it is biblical.
Great voice so many are taken captive by it. Poor theology-
You're obviously a Calvinist.
Love Adrian but He, like all who believe in Arminianism, cling to the Idea that Man is Author and Finisher of his own Faith.
He subscribes to the " Free Will" gospel that stems from Man's Pride.
But Scripture clearly states that's Jesus is the Author and finisher of our Faith.
Adrian,like other Preachers, seem to put on Blinders when they get to the part in Roman's chapter 9 that clearly says a Man's fate is "not up to Man who Wills", but up to God.
They don't want to see in that chapter the verses that says it is God who is making the choice to make some "Objects of Wrath" and others "Objects of Mercy."
Sorry to say Adrian contradicts Himself all thru this Sermon that actually proves "Predestination" by his own words.
@RandyM....Praise the Lord for speaking truth! They can't believe because their eyes are blind and their ears are deaf. God has a remnant.
Your ignorance is embarrassing.. if Jesus is the author and finisher of your faith and you have no free will then you deserve to go to hell and don't complain about it when you end up there.. those of us who are his actual followers heard the holy gospel, believed on it and accepted Jesus Christ as our Lord and savior
@@RockingChairRebel we can't believe Calvinism because we know it's a load of crap but you bought it Hook line & sinker because you're an idiot
@@busybody1474 Hebrews 12:2 " Jesus, The Author and Finisher of our Faith". Now I'm not talking about the Freedom you have to make every day Mundane Choices, what I'm talking about concerns Salvation, being set free from being a Slave to Sin as we all are until we are Saved, as it states in Romans 6: 20-22. According to Romans we are either Slaves to Sin or Slaves to Righteousness!
So what can we do? Can we, of our own understanding and volition set our selves free from the Slavery of Sin? Don't we have the "Free Will" to do that? According to Scripture, NO.
Why not? You see, Having Faith in Christ is a Spiritual Matter. Faith in Christ, Repentance and understanding Salvation are all matters of the Spirit.
According to 1st Corinthians 2: 14-16 Man "CAN NOT" receive things of the Spirit because they are Spiritually discerned. Man, being carnal, can not know them.
So you see, You know nothing of repentance, Faith or what it means to be Saved, in and of your own understanding! You can't Choose to be Saved because you have no understanding of What that even means.
You can't have the "Free Will", (which means independent of God's Will,) to choose to believe in anything Spiritual because you have no Knowledge at all of Spiritual matters.
So how is one Saved? Jesus said 'No one comes to me that has not been drawn by The Father." That doesn't mean God is standing on the podium begging people to come to the Cross.
Neither God or Jesus are beggars. Jesus isn't pleading with you to come to Him. That's not the Character of Jesus and certainly not God. The word "Drawn" in that context, is from the Greek/Hebrew translation that means "As one draws water from a Well." God pulls you out of a Sea of Sinners and to the Cross by His Irresistible Spirit. God grants you repentance Acts 11:18.
By doing so, God has Spiritually shown you your relationship to Him as a Sinner in need of forgiveness gives you the understanding that Salvation is through Jesus.
God Gives you the Free Gift of Faith Ephesians 2:8-9. Romans 12:3. You then can confess Jesus as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead and you are Saved.
You see, God did it all because He chose to. You didn't accept Jesus, Jesus accepted you. Your "Free Will had nothing to do with your being Saved.
With out the choice of God to call you to Himself, and provide you with Eternal Life , you would be lost like every other unrepentant Sinner.
It's important for Believers to understand the Power of the Holy Spirit and what the Grace of God really means. They should know that God doesn't need their permission to Save them, ( This would give them reason to boast) and that God's Sovereignty affords Him the Ability to Chose whom He Hardens in His Righteous Judgment , and has Mercy on whom He has Mercy, as Scripture states in Roman's 9: 18. Arminianism says YOU have the Will to reject or accept Salvation. This of course would set you on Equal footing with God, having the Power to Resist His Will to Save you. Satan thought he could be like God too, and look how that worked out for him. For that matter, Eve was convinced She could be like God too and convinced Adan of the same thing, and you know how that worked out for them. Don't make the same mistake.
I'm thankful that God has my fate in His Hand. When God regenerated my dead Spirit to being made alive in Christ, I began serving God fully and Willfully. I still have my Will and freedom in Christ. I'm not a Robot or a puppet, I'm a servant of the Lord. In your comment You told me to go to Hell. I'm telling you that what free Will you do have means nothing to Almighty God. God does what ever He pleases, and He doesn't need your Will to do it. Since God Bringing Glory to Himself is what we as His creation are here for, it pleases me to be a part of it.
Like I said, I've always has fondness for Adrian Rodgers, he brought so much to the Church, but when it came to an understanding of Salvation, we disagreed. He believed he chose Jesus, Calvinist believe Jesus chose Him.
@@randym.7238 Wow you practically wrote a book, and it's a load of crap 💩 we absolutely can choose, it's called The Holy Gospel. You haven't done that and I don't even consider you to be a Christian. You can't get around this verse, God is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance... You can't get around that because you're a liar and a fraud and you follow up murdering scoundrel named John Calvin while the rest of us follow Jesus Christ. You don't bother to share the holy gospel because you don't believe on it and you don't bother to teach your children about God because you don't actually believe that they will be saved, only you and your calvinist buddies.. shame on you!!!
He must of have had calvinists in his church. He is doing here what most southern baptist churches try to do and that's to stomp out calvinists from their congregations. But the doctrine of election is in and all over the bible. All Bible knowing Christians know that. No one I know believe swere predestined for hell, absolutely no one. Do you? Ofcourse not. Now, I've heard Pastor Adrian say that he offered little children lollipops if they would only say 'the lords prayer and be saved' that my friend is not the salvation you read about in scripture. How a educated and pious man can dwindle Christ's salvation down to that i don't know but it has taught me that although I believe Adrian is a brother and someone worthy to be listened to. You do need to use discretion when listening to him and READ YOUR BIBLE so that you can know when to discern for that OTHER GOSPEL that occasionally spills from the southern baptist pulpit.
I'm trying to understand calvinism. Our new calvinist pastor said God passes over some and chooses the others. I feel 'passing over means the same thing as choosing some for hell. He says we can't question God as it's all for his sovereign glory. Im having a hard time with this doctrine.
@@map218 The reason you are having problems with it is because it is a false gospel. It is a mystery why anyone would not only want to follow it but would do all in their power to defend it.
@@raymatthews4319 We moved on to a non-calvinist teaching church.
@@map218 Praise God for that.
I'm not Southern Baptist but I know Calvinism for the filthy lie that it is, I'll stomp it out right along with them.
Terrible hermeneutics, connects passages hundreds of years apart as though it was one passage. God foreknew and foresaw the children as men, and the nations that came from them. What deceptive teachings!
That's only your opinion which begs the question, who the heck are you that anyone should listen to your opinions 🤣
What Reformed, Deformed theology is the Doctrine of Demons called 5-POINT Calvinism.
It reduces its followers to mindless, thoughtless, puppet, robots. Spewing out Calvin's doctrine of demons .
The Bible cross references itself all the time - that is one of the proof's of its authenticity as the Word of God. The Scripture is in perfect harmony with itself and it is all useful for teaching as it is written in Timothy.
Paul says..." though we or an angel fm ..heaven preach any other gospel unto you then that we preached unto you...let him be.....ACCURSED..." that's not exactly " agreeing to...disagree..."... folks..." ACCURSED..." Here is ...EXCOMMUNICATED....ya out....O.U.P...!!!!!! That should nullify all this..." wishy washy..agree to disagree..." b.s....Our Lord said " ya either w/ me or against me...." He certainly didn't say..." ok...that's fine we can agree to disagree...."... their " disagreement ended in hatred...& the Cross...." contending for the Faith...." is not agreeing to disagree...Jude3
Calvinism is a COUNTSRFEIT....Protestantism....just as Roman Catholicism is a...COUNTERFEIT....Christianity....And Adrian Roger,s ministry...is the best reflection of Biblical Protestantism....or what's left of it....& to say the least....not much.....to say the most.....very little....thx in large measure to those self appointed so called..." Evangelical..." Leaders that became more " ECUMENICAL....." beginning in the early 70,s...& less & less " Evangelical...".... that failed & failed miserably to teach the ASSurance....Security.....& Guarantee of our So Great Salvation...Heb.2:3.... once they became....believers...& most having struggled to gain a sense of the ASSurance of Salvation....opted for Catholic Calvinism,s pseudo...ASSurance....bc if ya Elected & Chosen...to be saved....oh...B/4 The foundation of the world of....course....then ya can't be...." UNELECTED...". hence a false sense of Security & ASSurance....WHY????? simple really....NOBODY,S ever Elected to be saved or lost....WHY????bc God,s Election has NOTHING.....NADA....& NIL'.... To do w/ Who,s going to heaven & who,s going to...helll...& certainly has nothing to do w/ tossing innocent babies into hell ...hellooooooo....
This is the hardest thing I struggle with because I always struggle with am I saved.
So God only chooses nations, not individuals in Romans 9... So, are the individuals in those nations?