Ford F350 VS RAM 3500 Real World MPG Test On 35’s! || One Of These Trucks Lost Horribly...
Vložit
- čas přidán 7. 07. 2022
- It's time to do a test comparing the RAM 3500 Cummins and Ford F350 Powerstroke!!! || Like || Subscribe || Share || #JBReviews #FordF350 #RAM3500
Check out these great products on Amazon:
GEARWRENCH 44 Piece 3/8inch Drive 6 Point Impact Socket
amzn.to/3c07Oka
DEWALT 20V MAX* XR Compact Hammer Drill Kit
amzn.to/3NS0PqK
AMP Research 76236-01A PowerStep Running Boards
amzn.to/3yXZAlR
B&W Trailer Hitches Tow & Stow - Fits 2.5" Receiver, Tri-Ball
amzn.to/3lBEgL9
BFGoodrich Mud-Terrain T/A KM3 Tire 35x12.50R20
amzn.to/3LFqlhy
AstroAI Digital Tire Inflator with Pressure Gauge
amzn.to/3Pp0X2E
10.2-inch iPad (Wi-Fi + Cellular, 64GB) -
amzn.to/3wvm1gB
Low Profile Folding Chair for Camping, Beach, Picnic, Barbeques, Sporting Event with Carry Bag
amzn.to/3xqSVy4
BLUETTI Portable Power Station AC200MAX
amzn.to/3N3xA3E - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Nice video. I got a few thoughts about it.
1) your speedometer is going to be off with the taller tires. So you were definitely going faster than indicated.
2) one of these days I’ll get you trained about these transmissions 😂, but your top gear ratio is exactly the same as the Fords 10 speed. Both are 0.63:1. So the sole reason you had a higher rpm is because you have 3.73 gears compared to the Fords 3.31 (and you were technically traveling at a faster speed due to the taller tires). Had the ford had a 3.73 gear it would have been turning the same rpm’s as your truck. The only thing the 10 speed offers as an advantage is having a wider gear ratio spread as compared to a 6 speed so it will keep the motor more in its power range. This probably will hurt fuel mileage though. And truthfully it’s not that big of an advantage over a 6 speed because they already had/have a decent gear ratio spread.
Yeah, yeah, yeah... bUt It HaS tEn SpEeDs ThOuGh!!!1!1! 🙃
A 6 speed isn't doing 500 rpm downshifts to keep it in that sweet spot of the power range. I agree with you in that the 6 is fine as it is, but let's not act like the 10 isn't an outright improvement over that. I've been in a sloppy 10 speed and two sloppy 6 speed/Aisins. The 10 speed was corrected with a transmission relearn, but as far as I'm aware that's just how the Aisin transmission is that Dodge farms out- super industrial, doesn't feel great.
Nice work!!
Love your videos, Brother. Keep it up.👍🏾
I'd rather be Cummins than powerstroking 😂😂
I do have love for powerstroke, tho
I got the ford 350 single rear wheel; thanks for the dually video!
Ford Super Duty truck rocks n Powerstroke rules
Ford did good this time lol!
With the high volume diesel pumps I've noticed if I hold the nozzle to where its in line with the filler neck it'll work, but if its at an angle it'll splash back and shut off. Another good thing about those pumps is they don't shut off at $100 or something stupid like a lot of regular gas stations
I'd like to see 331 vs 355. Hopefully you can get the redo video out soon! When my ram goes into regen, I'm shocked at the mpg. You're going to be a significant factor in determining if I order a 23 Superduty or 23 Ram 👍🏾! I love my 21 ram 3500 HO but more gears to be in the sweet spot while pulling the grades in the mountains and to be able to run a higher axles ratio would be nice.
I appreciate the video bro. There’s a lot of variables that come into play on these short tests. Like you already said the regen mode is definitely going to hurt. And even if you are only one quarter of a gallon off when you fill the tanks on such a short run it’s going to skew the numbers also. It takes me several tries to top off my tank, diesel seems to get really foamy especially on a warm day.🇺🇸💪
Great point, I saw the regen after the test, I should have pulled my camera back out once I noticed it the following day 🇺🇸💪🏾
I believe the difference in RPM in top gear is the difference between a 3.31 on the Ford and 3.73 on the Ram for the gearing. I believe the final drive ratio for both 6th in the Ram and 10th gear in the Ford is .63:1. You really need to get a Banks I-Dash to monitor how close you are to a regen and monitor other emissions components
i do not believe the f350 with 20" wheels came with the 3.31, only the trucks on 17" wheels stock have the 3.31.. i have a 2020 f250 on 17" wheels. i believe the 20" wheels would be 3.55 typical but the option for 3.71 and 4.30 is also available and more common with the 350.
its not likely a 350 came with 3.31 on 20" wheels.
Great review they are very nice Trucks cheers Mick Australia
Thank You!
My 2018 ccsb f250 with 3.55s all stock on stock 20" rims averages 20-21miles per gallon running 70 mph. 21.5 when flat, 19.5-20 when hilly.
My 22 f450 pickup, gets 17-18.5 when running 65 mph in the highway. That's slightly hilly terrain, and its only got 1100miles on it so far.
The ram was in Regen 🤔😂😂. I believe you, that mpg was like you had trailer on the back.
I have a 2011 F350 PSD with factory 20” wheels and a 3.55 axle and 6 speed tranny. I turn 1500 rpm at 62 mph. 70 mph is good for 1800 rpm. Unloaded cruise 70 mph good for ~18 mpg. Towing our 5er 15000 lb fuel economy 9.5-10.5 mpg depending on terrain. Towing speed 62 mph. Truck is stock.
Your videos that dealt with the numbers for trailer weight and tow capacity were fantastic! I had my wife watch them all! Your mathmatical approach to comparing the mpg on these vehicles. NEEDS a lot of tutoring. The difference between a 3,73 ratio and a 3,31 ratio is significant! Since your tires are not the stock diameter, your odometer and speedometer are not correct. If you had used the gps app to measure the trip, you would have been okay.
And fuel economy is not to be found at speeds above 60mph. Do the same test at a gps corrected speed of 60mph. I have lifted trucks at my house. Leveling a truck is for mall crawlers.
Any advice you have is appreciated, love your videos. I am about to buy our first Fifth Wheel, in fact first travel trailer. I drove the Ford F250 and also the Ram 2500. When I drove the Fords (several of them) new and preowned F250-F450. They all feel tuned compared to the Ram and Chevy, I think they are quicker because they give you more power at slow speeds and the Ram/Chevy holds power back from a stop. They do have 200 foot pounds of torque more the high output F250 for the 2023 will have 400 foot pounds of torque more!! 1,200 foot pounds of torque!!! WOW!
We are about to put in our order for a Brinkley model Z. I’d prefer the F250 but it looks like payload wise I will max out with that 14,000 pound trailer, if I could put some airbags back there. I prefer the F250 over a F350 but really prefer the Ram air ride to keep the truck and trailer level and the Ram interior is nicer and the Mega Cab means more comfort for my 20 son and 22 year old daughter “when they come”. I’ll be trading in a 2020 Ford Raptor that I will miss but that truck barely pulls a bicycle much less a 5th wheel. 😂😂😢😢😢😢
Any tips are welcome!
I like the content 😂 don’t make excuses tho it’s a ram thing. 😂. It’s a nice truck but the Ford definitely kicks it’s butt a little. I’ve had both trucks and had similar fuel mileages. Good content tho my man
The ram sounds very good
The gearing difference is crazy! I drive an F-550 for work, which has a 4.88 rear end, and at 60 mph, I rev 2K! 😅
I'm running 37"s on my 2021 3500 HO and at 80mph on the speedo My GPS on my phone says I'm really doing 86mph. That being said I know I'm getting better MPG than what I calculate when I divide the gallons used into the miles driven. Have You had Your speedo re-calibrated since going to the 35s?
Hey JB, I just drove 950 miles from Colorado to Oregon empty and my 2021 Ram 3500 HO Mega Cab averaged on the lie meter over 20.6mpg. I know that’s not hand calculated but even if it was off by 2mpg it would be over 18mpg. I was averaging 75 to 80mph most of the way. I do use HotShot Secrets EDT every other fill up. (have no idea if that much). Your truck had to be in Regen.
Yea
A side by side comparison of the Durango and GCL would be awesomeness to see!🤞🏾
I was gonna do this before I left MD 😄
I wander if you were on a regen. That's similar to my mpg during regens.
Lighter colors, regardless of vehicle or a room in a house will make it feel bigger while dark colors make's the space seem smaller.
You used eco mode also- can’t really expect a big 6 to beat a big v8. Still good to compare tho- towing will probably show closer results but thanks either way
Wow, shocked 😳
JB between the Ram vs Ford what’s your favorite towing mirrors
FORD without a doubt.
I'm a Chevy man, but even I would have to give Ford the nod for getting the mirrors right on the super duties for all these years.
Love my fords but man do I miss the sound of my straight 6
You should do the same test with a ram with a 68FE transmission and 3.73 gears. For some reason mpg are way better with low output in that combination versus high output.
True, the HO has lower compression which I think plays into the fuel mileage 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork There's a hot shot driver in my neighborhood that just traded his HO 3500 for a HD 5500 with the 4:88 gears and 19.5 inch tires. The new Cummins is derated to about the same numbers as the S.O. He told me his fuel economy was the same between both trucks. So clearly if you're going with the Cummins, the H.O. has the bragging rites for numbers, but the S.O. is the winner for MPG. I also test drove a 2021 Super Duty with 3:55 gears 3 months ago. It was completely stock. And holy crap, it really puts the power down, I was amazed.
Something is off. My 2014 2500 is lifted 6" on 35s with 4.11s and it gets 18-20 mpg unloaded on the race tune unless I'm getting on it.
Looks like Frederick, MD.
There are giants like this out there and people be flexing their tundras lmao.
It doesn't matter ram all day baby.😉
also notice how much louder the cab noise is and the vibrayion
Great point
Never drove 350s but ram definitely wins in the 150 category I may have to test drive 350s soon
Which seat did you feel was more comfortable between the two trucks?
They both are pretty comfortable, the RAM seats are more stiff
Guess I need to see the difference in towing with a TT as apposed to the 5er for a level. Would like to do mine but don’t want to sacrifice the ride with the TT.
TT tow a little worse because the hitch weight is low. Fifth wheel puts that weight over the axle therefore it pulls better 👍🏾
So did someone change the FX4 sticker to a TREMOR sticker? The standard chin spoiler and 20” wheels say FX4. Hope someone didn’t dupe him. The primary extra expense is the front Torsten LSD.
Your right in addition most tremors come with 3:73 or 4:30 on the 7.3 gas
@@burnedagain6187 4.30 w/ 7.3 gas engine as standard.
Ford has it going on
I've had old Rams and had no problems filling up at truck stops with the larger and faster hose. If Ram has taken that ability away, that's a bad move.
JB, could you tell which is louder/quieter? Or do the tire choices kind of muddy the water too much?
Doubt the ford is tuned. Those 10 speeds are amazing at getting the power down. Same with gm/duramax. The transmission in your ram might seem like a lazy shifter but it's definitely a tough transmission. Can't go wrong with all three it comes down to your preference. I currently have a ford but my next might be a ram who knows.....
I have had 3 Rams and now a 2021 F350…going back to a Ram.
The Ram interior is nicer….factory adjustable air bags….nicer monitor….better stereo….shall I keep going…….
@@davelariviere682 nope lol!! To each his own. Ram has been in the lead for a long time in the interior game. And the Cummins is the original diesel that actually started the diesel truck wars.
JB this MPG test proves why I cringe every time I see someone that says they get 17-20 mpg’s on 35’s or 37’s. Your number where you said you get about 16.7 with the level and 35’s is probably pretty accurate across the board. I don’t know why the keyboard warriors love to lie about fuel mileage. I’ve had both Cummins and Powerstroke, both lifted and stock. They are very close in mileage with the Cummins having a slight edge.
I feel the 10sp is an equalizer for the Ford. Not because it drops the rpm overall, but it keeps the Ford in its power band better. Less drop off in rpm between shifts (less boost needed). The Cummins has a flatter broader torque curve down low so it doesn’t suffer as bad as with the 6sp. Although, I feel the Cummins would benefit even more from an 8 or 10sp as it would have to work even less. The more you avoid getting into the turbo will save fuel.
You did the 0-60 test with the Ford in eco mode. Should have switched back to normal mode for that test. The truck is even faster in normal mode.
And it's even faster if you put it in Advancetrac Sport Mode!
You should Compare the rear ends next time
Are you using wheels spacers on your ford?
No, those tires are 12.5 wide
Could it be in Regen?
Oh. Yea. It was Regen
Eco does limit boost on the Ford.
What is the gear ratio in the ford verses the ram?
3.31
I’ll help you I’ll pick the next two for you for your apples to apples
I hate to point it out but you didn’t do a secondary top off on the Ford like you did the Dodge. You filled until it stopped on the Ford and you filled until it stopped twice on the Dodge. Your mileage was skewed because of that
After my wife drove both ford and rams she wanted the Ram just because the interior felt more compact like a car.
It feels like the perfect size
Ram fits smaller framed people well.
Then buy her a honda pridgeline
Do you have 410s rear end
They don’t allow you to do 4.10’s unless you get a dually, I have 3.73 on RAM and the Ford had 3.31
Sir, how far can a diesel truck travel on a tank of DEF generally speaking?
My 2016 6.7 ford goes close to 6000-8000 mi on not even 5gal of def
@@christaphorn7130 Thanks for the info. I've always had gas trucks
Ram.
You have a small tank on your truck. I have a 52 gallon tank on my ram.
1st time the Ford looks smaller than the Ram!
pretty soon we will see 'who work' short videos for powerstroke fords 😂
🤣🤣🤣
The 6.7 Cummins is the only true medium duty engine out of the big 3. There’s a very good reason why all tractor trailers in the US use 15 liter inline 6’s, and that is for the frame twisting torque, and excellent fuel economy on a perfectly balanced engine.
“Who Work?” “CUMMINS Work!” 🇺🇸
Na the ram can't touch the 10spd fuel economy rather it be the ford or gm
JB buy Hannah the Ford
Owned both trucks and RAM by far the better truck. FORD always had problems and the ride was terrible
Disagree my 2020 Ford 350 is so much nicer to drive take it over my 2019 longhorn any day!
You're either a liar or that ford was a cheap worn out pig.
Ram always wins.
💯
Not. Cummins is the only good thing about dodge which is why they are called shipping crates.
@@JB_WhoWork I converted to ford
The Ford is a way better truck
I don't even need watch this video I already no Ford better in every way
First
🤝
Lol at you thinking a transmission with more gears will turn less rpm at any speed in top gear… really..!!
It'll allow for a lower axles ratio so, yes.
Yea but ram transmission is bulletproof and ford is garbage they brake around 60k miles check reviews on fords you will be surprised. Ram all in those trucks are designed to do work not just comfort driving.
Aisin, Japanese do make great transmissions!
Ram however do not !
Wrong everyone I know that has a 3500 with auto goes to hell about 50k miles
LMAO, tell me you're a Ram fanboy without telling me you're a Ram fanboy. Such a typical BS statement by a fan that can't take losing
It's not just you either, look at all the excuses by Ram fans on the fuel mileage in the comments. Just deal with it. The cummins is a great motor, but it no longer has the fuel mileage advantage it used to have.
nope , I pull with mine everyday
85,000 miles
zero issues ..
The ram is the truck that Historically has a terrible reputation for having weak transmissions ..
I've known several people who have them and the transmission breakdown ...It's WHY I bought a Ford instead
This guy is totally a ram freak doesn't even know how to use the engine brake on a Ford who wants a truck with a farm tractor engine and a car transmission