Aliexpress Laptops Are Weird...
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- čas přidán 27. 11. 2023
- This Aliexpress laptop was the most interesting laptop I've seen in ages.
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You know what would be cool? If someone managed to stick the hardware of a steamdeck or rog ally into that and turn it into a beast
Do it david or u gay
ally is signifigantly more powerful than the deck
YES! Ryzen z1 extreme or 7840u would be insanely good for this system ngl
How is the steamdeck or rog ally a beast? :))))))))((
@@lebastard2085 compare their performance with the performance of this video
To be fair, I can actually see a use case for this. It would make a decent web browsing and MS Office machine.
theres nothing decent about this CPU even just for the web browsing
it could be a very nice emulator for retro gaming :)
theres nothing decent about this CPU even just for the retro gaming
There's nothing decent about this setup...posting from an i5 laptop from 2012, works good for web, Office and chess gaming.
@@LetrixAR it’s on par with some chromebooks. But with enough ram, a solid display, and a mechanical keyboard to make good use of web apps
A surprisingly nice, what I'd call, "Productivity" laptop.
Great keyboard. Great display and 16GB of RAM. Not for gaming, but pretty damned good for office/work-from-home use. Kinda a sleeper build. I like it.
it would be a great little web-dev unit for sure
@@rayjaymor8754 Will this processor keep up with that kind of workloads?
The literal opposite of a sleeper.
It would be an actually good laptop if it had an i5 (even U Series would've been enough) and a 'fixed' webcam
It's more like anti-sleeper. Looks high end but it's the laptop version of a Pontiac Fiero dressed up in a Ferrari body kit. When you want to look like you have money but don't.
I've seen this laptop featured before, and it's worth a quick note that this is almost certainly a demo unit. It's a smattering of things that the factory wants to show off along with the cheapest possible hardware to run it for a demo. They want to demonstrate the high end keyboards and screens they can work with, custom circuitry for the webcam, and some options on how it can be put together. The truth is, this is a super impressive demo unit. I have very little doubt that if I went to the factory and gave them specs for a laptop I wanted to sell that they would be able to execute on it and produce a quality product.
That makes a lot of sense
@@shepherd6692 Hang on. When did anything that comes out of China via Aliexpress ever make any sense?
can it be made to order with a 4050 and so on /4090 if so link
I bought one, this laptop sucks. Fan noise is very bad. The keyboard is good for a laptop but nowhere near as good as an external mechanical keyboard--and look at the small right shift key. The touchpad is very small and way off center. The "palmrest" is too narrow to rest your palms on. The GPU can't handle 1440p60fps CZcams videos (forget about 4k videos). The display is excellent. Mine did not have a problem with excessive speaker volume. They could have made this laptop fanless, or at least they could have been way less aggressive about the fan kicking it at low temps. I wish mainstream PC makers would make a fanless light laptop with an excellent keyboard and screen for regular office tasks like web browsing, Excel and Word, etc. At least they should include fan control software like gaming laptops; my son can make his G14 fanless with the software ASUS provides, to extend his battery and keep the noise down while in class.
@@dr.nigelcool3771 What's important to remember is that this isn't a laptop designed to be used, it's designed to demonstrate features. The processor is very weak, so low performance is to be expected. I would think you should be able to configure the fans with a generic fan control software though.
We need more implementations of mechanical keyboard on laptops
buckling spring keyboards
yes because everyone would love to hear the sound of your keyboard in a coffee shop lol
@@virusumfNot every mechanical keyboard is loud.
@@virusumffrom my experience at coffee shops, anyone bringing a laptop to it really wants you to know they brought it... so I think it would be welcomed... well not for normal people who just wanted a chai tea latte
@@virusumf What better way to get a bunch of attention from strangers?
Admit it; You love the thing. I'd absolutely keep this as a nice little productivity laptop.
Can't get distracted by games if they don't run, eh? 😂
Perfect for your kid at college, who needs something for research and writing, and not for fragging and fighting.
@@ikepigotti think xonotic might run on that so that kid is still getting frags(fragged)
A 37dB increase in sound level is a 5,000 times increase in acoustic power. And 107dB is unbelievably loud for a laptop - it's even unbelievably loud for powered computer speakers. I imagine that the track was tuned to a resonant frequency in the laptop's speaker system.
then why isn't it playing a single frequency bruh gummon
@@ethanwasme4307 Well, "bruh," you can simply tune a recording with a narrow bandwidth resonant filter so that is excites a known resonance in a given reproducer, to make for a very loud, but bad-sounding playback experience.
or they used on board amp that was just for power and overpowering speakers also whit mostly hollow laptop it would be louder
@@ladislavzenk2139 Could be.
Nah, as you can see on the frequency plot of the app that is not what they did, and why would they? Giving that thing a class-d chip with some 'practicly unbreakable' tiny speakers does the trick. And as you see on the faces those tiny speakers just are way beyond their limits. Making things loud is easy. Making tiny things loud (with low frequencies) and sound good is an art form.
I would even go as far that they didn't even want it to be loud. They just took of the shelf components without doing too much math and thats the outcome.
honestly if it had like a ryzen 5 7640u, it would've actually been able to game a little because the laptop looked so good
The body looks like an Acer Nitro 5 knockoff to be honest
@@sihamhamda47it looks better. The acer looks boring
Yeah the celeron really is the main problem with it. Also the webcam is stupid. 😂
but then it can't be priced at $500 lol
@DawidDoesTechStuff so will you attempt to swap the cpu with anything better?
Celeron chips need to be discontinued. They’re all awful lmao
What a brilliant writer's laptop. Most people don't use their laptops to calculate Pi to ten billion decimal points or decode the Rosetta Stone. Even that quad core Celeron is plenty for just normal laptop use (and many just use their laptop to remote in to some other PC/system to do actual work- so it's just a keyboard/screen interface device). A nice crisp 4 display, amazing keyboard, good trackpad. I suspect most small devices use the old Bose trick of using an efficient small driver but then using very strong signal tuning to level out the actual frequency response played. Those speakers must just be playing the raw audio, so the extremely strong frequency response at a certain ear piercing range is 100 decibels now. That is fixed by using headphones- which most people do anyways. Only d-bags play their tunes through their laptop speakers in public.
@@DDBT-nk7lq I doubt anybody could hear it over my loudly chewing gum.
JUst what i was thinking this is really a good laptop for remote/rdp/parsec laptop in my opinion. My only concerne is the battery life because of that 4k display but seems good enough i guess
I can't help but imagine what were they thinking at the factory 😂 They be like "yo I want a laptop with the best keyboard ever seen, beautiful 4K screen and speakers loud enough to shatter windows. Okay then, how much should it cost? Like 300 bucks should be enough, right?"
Actually, this is a decent laptop for non-demanding users (mostly female) . 4K display for movies, loud speakers for crappy pop music, decent keyboard for emails and short memos, lots of RAM for browsing, relatively light and compact. CPU is not so bad, it has 4c/4t .
@@aleksazunjic9672 Also totally fine for most software develoment and such purposes with a good keyboard when on-the-go.
@@aleksazunjic9672 It's a super office laptop - loud speakers that are great for use as audio source for a large meeting hall, great tying experience for document writing and communicating on Slack, and amazing monitor with good colour accuracy for graphic design work or anything requiring those good visuals and clean display output using the high pixel density.
Having a beefy cooler for the weak CPU also means it can keep the system cool enough that heat would never get in the way of work, and replaceable NVMe storage is a must for the PC, as it has to be easily repairable in a fast paced office environment.
I think a faster CPU like the newer Ryzen laptop chips would make this a premier office PC.
@@aleksazunjic9672 4x Intel Atom (Tremont) cores and 10W TDP. Tremont/Jasper Lake was the predecessor to the Gracemont E-cores used on Intel 12th, 13th and 14th gen
@@aleksazunjic9672"mostly female" lol ok incel
Genuinely, as a writer/adademic, this machine makes a ton of sense.
I bought one of these laptops, I use it as a parsec dumb terminal to connect to my gaming PC, its a very clever design imo
That’s awesome!
I can't find it on Aliexpress. What search terms do I use to find it?
I wish Dawid would link to the items he reviews.
@gnarlin4964 I put "mechanical laptop" and it came up
Is it actually decent? How is the battery life? Any idea on Linux compatibility of the hardware?
@@Alpha8713 parsec burns the battery down pretty fast, maybe 2 hours of use, I use the windows 11 install it comes with but I don't log into anything other than parsec (because china), no idea about linux, its decent but feels very cheap, incredible value
This budget laptop comes with 16GB of RAM as standard. The Apple computers still do not in 2023.
Think about it.
I have to say, I like this laptop. I don't know if I would buy it (if I had any money), but I like it.
Thanks for another awesome video.
Aliexpress giving a better value in terms of included accessories than major bands😭😂
Clicked the notification so quick I almost bricked my phone
Same
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Man. That David attemborough like intro made me laugh my ass off.
Well done my friend
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I enjoy this format for reviewing laptops, keeping the physical computer break down for the end of the video.
Which I imagine they do regardless, by routine just encase something get's taken apart and never can be put back together, be it plastic clips , whatever.
Neat
Honestly, if all I were doing is browsing the web, I would pick this over a Chromebook any day of the week.
Pop your favorite Linux distro on this puppy and you got a stew going.
Dawid Attenborough goes hard.
You should try running an M.2 eGPU with that since its so easy to access the port with the rest of the bottom cover still installed!
It was a pleasant surprise to see that they used some clone of the kailh choc clickbar switches. They're really really nice for a low profile mechanical keyboard. Also, they're the reason the keyboard doesn't clatter like a cheap blue switch board, the click is sharp and precise.
This $500 machine has 16gb ram and removable sSD, but Apple still sells many 1,000+ laptops with 8gb ram and fixed SSD.
Of all the Aliexpress laptops I have seen on this channel so far this is one of the better ones. Weird native resolution choices and other oddities like the webcam aside it's pretty usable.
Honestly if it's not that heavy seems like a great laptop for school. Good keyboard and screen (could use a glass touchpad) are the main factors for me when studying/working, once the laptop is responsive enough, wich it should be.
Imagine that keyboard, audio, and display, but with a Ryzen 7530U or other 15 watt Zen 3/3+ variant with the Vega graphics. If they can fit that in a mini-PC sized square box they can probably put it in a rectangle just as well.
It would choke and thermal throttle.
Quite an Interesting Documentary On Laptop Species you bring to the Table.
looks like you could fit a framework main board in it that could be a great upgrade path if you ever revisit it.
The reason they tape them up like this is so customs doesn't open them. It's more work and most customs workers will just skip something taped all crazy like that.
as someone who just received something taped like that and was stopped and inspected by customs I would beg to differ.
Some of that is to cover branding that might be stopped by customs. China also seems to ship in the box it comes in rather than re-boxing which we usually se in the US.
Is that why? 🤯
This is complete BS. Customs is going to tear your item open if they want to regardless of how it's packed. This tape is by no means difficult or a deterrent in any way.
This is to protect it from liquid spills in transit.
@@razter6678 if they want to, sure. Just most of them don't want to. I ordered a lot of fake stuff from China years ago, and they literally told me that they did it because it made it less likely to get opened...
I can see myself use that for web development purposes, checks a lot of boxes
Great video.
Thank you Dawid for doing tech stuff
This laptop looks great as a writing machine haha. A slightly more powerful CPU and could be a fantastic office computer as well. An AMD APU and might be able to play competitive titles, but at that point you are probably better off with something completely different, with a faster and lower resolution display.
Movie machine (4K) and party machine (loud speakers).
It would be a great office machine. You just benefit by running software that might be a little lighter, that's all. 🤣
Looks like a nice little coding machine or laptop for remoting into an actual workstation. A lot of nice to haves without the high-performance price tag
Yep, I did picture getting something like that to use as a basic thin client.
I love the groans of effort even during light tasks, like pulling out the accessories
This chassis, if given a powerful internals, can be legit impressive.
I recently got familiar with your channel and I really like your content, especially when reviewing AliExpress crap
It looks like they've rebuilt an Alienware laptop from a few years ago after hearing about it from a rough description.
The angular body reminds me of an older-model Acer Predator or something like that.
12:30 I think this sentence touches on exactly why you think this laptop has the wrong priorities. Its the kind of laptop YOU are not used to seeing. This fits perfect for a person who does word processing and or watches movies while on the go. I would have killed for something like this back when I was going to school. I love your review, don't get me wrong, but judging this on its gaming ability is like judging a fishes ability to climb a tree. Its just not made for that at all.
Agreed, not too shaby. Thanks for the heads up. I look forward to our next visit.
It'd be really cool if they made one with a interchangeable CPU slot and sata out
They probably could have had, but the problem is that that PCB has very little cooling ability and not enough power delivery. Any other CPU wouldn't work.
@@akshaymathur136 maybe the frame could be used as a heat sink a way to disperse Heat
@@smartduck904 Yeah, a couple of extra small heat sinks and a laptop cooler base will help with the heat, but power delivery will still be the issue. If the power delivery is only designed for 15W CPU, then putting a 35W CPU won't help. It would be power starved when trying to hit the higher frequencies.
I think N100 would have been a solid choice. Still 6W but a decent performance hike. Still not for games, but better for office stuff.
I wonder how this would do for remote game streaming. It seems like the ideal device for that. An excellent keyboard and display, and (hopefully) a good networking card are really all you need if you have a good mouse and another pc is doing all the heavy lifting.
Celeron would be extremely problematic.
With that keyboard and display, I bet some DIY youtuber could have a lot of fun making something proper out of that laptop.
lol seeing the ports and m.2 slot I instantly knew what the inside is going to look like
Talking stricly as a viewer, these ali express episodes are fire 😂🔥 i really love them. Great vid
So funny to imagine the guy at home "I'm going to do it, I'm going to build the best mechanical keyboard slash 4k laptop money can buy!"
I love those videos about wacky tech. Keep them coming Dawid😂👍🏻
@@particelywhat do you mean bro?
Really nothing better for this cold morning then new Dawideo. Awesome. Immediately more cheerful at work.
Love these kinds of video keep up the good work
this could be decent for office or basic browsing laptop ( after debloating that windows 11) , decent keyboard and display will be nice for that
I just about dislocated my jaw laughing at that decibel meter reading. HOLY BISCOTTI that'd nuke your hearing so quickly you won't even be able to determine speaker sound quality anymore! Maybe that's the point. Also oof centered around 2kHz is right at the pain point for lots of people owing to HRTF mess, I'd have run from that
That's actually a pretty awesome computer as long as that CPU is able to handle basic tasks like youtube videos and the like. The two most important aspects of computers for the average user are covered, good keyboard and good screen.
I love the intro, keek the great work Dawid
I love how you choose laptops with potatoe CPUs and try to game on them, it's like you enjoy bullying those slow chips, and for some reason it is very entertaining
Best intro ever.
Love the heck outta yer snark! I subscribed.
Pretty much a nice office / editor / writer system. Doesn't need lots of power, nice keyboard, you can put lots of stuff on the screen and the performance is still better than on most laptops from a few years ago. Like I'm pretty sure it wipes the ground with my Thinkpad's Sandy Bridge i5 both with its pure performance and with its iGPU. And it's not like my 2nd gen i5 feels really bad in every day usage. Older games will also work fine I guess. Like Starcraft II and older.
i would honestly love a removable webcam like that lol
This is honestly pretty neat. More laptops should have mechanical keyboards.
Opening Monologue by Dawid Attenborough....lol love the content bossman!!
Those little Choc switches aren't bad at all. That's going to better to type on than most laptop keyboards out there. To bad it looks like they molded the laptop shell to the keyboard layout, would be really cool if you could make custom mechanical keyboard layouts for it.
This notebook looks strangely familiar to the one Linus tested a few month ago ;-). But I love the Dawid-twist on a review.
Actually love the webcam idea. If someone would do that but use pogo pins and a stronger magnet that would be awesome.
The DS stylus walked so webcams could fly
@@DrTacoPHD665 exactly
Thank you Dawid Attenborough for that hilarious intro. XD
I've been watching your videos from last year... Then this popped up on my feed and your hair has grown drastically 😂 threw me off a bit 😆
Linus actually reviewed this laptop, with a difference being his said “DEEQ” on the back. It’s honestly insane considering I watched that vid last night and then see this one lol
I think more laptops need a mechanical keyboard. I bet this laptop would make an amazing writing laptop.
100% this would be a solid student laptop for like college, if you just needed something to type on all day and a basic webcam for study groups, like you could do WAY WORSE.
You lowered the Mic level on the music so my Denon whould not break my ear drums!!
You are just the best u tuber ever!!😀
if this had better specs and a locking mechanism for the webcam it would be absolutely outstanding. Then I'd buy one without hesitation.
I"M IN LOVE! I really really hate the chicklet style keyboards that seem to infect all of today's laptops. The last really good laptop keyboard I used was a Lenovo T420 Thinkpad. That had a real keyboard with a red c/l/i/t/o/r/i/u/s/ TrackPoint on it. The keys felt so good to type on. But you can't get anything modern with a real keyboard, and I can only keep repairing my T420 for so long before I run into a component I can't fix or find a replacement for. This AliExpress might just be the ticket to a real keyboard to use until the laptop industry goes on a chicklet fast.
My T61 already went. 😢 Only the CPU fan, but even those are pretty expensive for such an ancient machine.
Agreed, completely.
This is a writer's machine through and through. Proper keyboards on laptops were a thing in the 80s and 90s in business class systems, I remember a Dell which had one of the finest typing experiences I had ever had when a user brought in his machine to have some applications installed.
I remember seeing such large but low-end laptops on AliExpress some years ago, and I didn't think they'd still be made, at least as budget PCs for someone who may not want or may have not thought of getting a used PC. I'm also surprised to see one with a mechanical keyboard.
This laptop looks exactly like the laptop in the Linus Tech Tips video "Brown Star for Effort - This AliExpress Gaming Laptop is HILARIOUS". Right down to the mechanical keyboard, magnetic webcam which is a bit terrible, the fake speaker grills. It's just missing the DEEQ brand and it's the exact same laptop!
I was just about to say I recognize that I/O
Dawid is the Only creator I would stop watching Any video to click a notification from
Wow. I didn't expect that. I mean, if you could change that board out for something else. That might actually be a damn good machine
Seriously my favorite content creator! Lol David is a GOD! 😂
the speaker being on the bottom of the laptop is probably what's causing it to be so loud. the sound is bouncing off the table surface , it;s sticking a cell phone in a metal bowl (somehting i've seen cooks at ihop do to get more volume from their phone). the reverb off the table is making the sound louder. test the laptop's sound with the spekaer pointing into open air, i bet there is a huge drop in volume.
Love the intro. Keep those up. Ha ha. Do you think David Attenborough would be willing to do a cameo? 😂
2:15 Right side is the correct side for side IO on laptops as people with wired mice would plug them in on the right side otherwise you would have to plug your mouse in on the left and have it going around the back if you use your mouse in your right hand.
that's exactly the point lol, if you use wired mouse in your right hand you do NOT want that the cable sticking out and obstructing your mouse movements... wireless dongle sure, but wired hell no... going around from left to right is the preffered way for wired
You could run a production benchmark on it. I think it would do fine for schoolwork
I love my delightful documentary by the amazing Sir Dawid Attenborough. Truly one of the greats.
Dawid Attenborough at it again. Love the intros!
Impressive to find a 4K screen, 16GB RAM and a really good keyboard on a laptop like this at that price point. The Webcam idea is actually quite interesting, too.
Wow, I love that music, it's called 梦里水乡, quite a classic I'd say.
"Crikey, what a beauty!" A+ content as usual, Dawid and Anna.
Hi Dawid! Great video :) I have an interesting idea for a future video as well. Have you heard one of the "compute sticks"? It is a tiny windows computer that is big as palm of your hand. Try gaming one of those :)
This feels like a rich person wanted someone to design a laptop for a very specific task, they hired someone to make it, and then that person got to continue producing them for resale online. It's just so oddly specific in design, even down to the rich person not liking webcams built into the monitor but still wanting them available for occasional use.... 😂
Superb opening! Spot on
You know you’ve hit the big time when David Attenborough is doing your intros. Bravo, my friend. Bravo.
actually, you will likely find that the "e-waste" you speak of is often recycled plastics being recycled into something new, so its not always a bad thing to see it being included with something that might be useful in a caravan, it certainly wont get stolen, and if it does you can park the van back where it was a week later and they will likely give it back to you!
Always a pleasure having Sir Dawid Attenborough on the show. He should guest more often!
i want to see this keyboard on more laptops.
That cooler looks like plenty to handle a U-series chip from AMD or Intel. Imagine how much better this would be with something like a 7530U or 1355U instead of the poor little Celeron. It would increase the price quite a lot, but even something from back in 11th-gen, which is now a lot cheaper, would be a substantial upgrade. Something like the 1135g5 would be well suited to this thing as it actually has the GPU resources to maybe make something happen on that display. Not gaming, but like, a heavier video playing at full resolution.
Seems more optimized for coding setups where infrastructure/testing is hosted remotely. You get a nice typing experience along with plenty of screen real estate.
so interesting and well made - the video & the laptop
if these had a more capable use in general cpu/apus and more cemented ideas on what to do with rest of its design and audio. i could see it being popular specially if they maintain that price. they could find their niche. it does look nice with a keyboard and enthusiasts/modders would adopt it quickly.
Loved the jungle bit
That webcam design is actually good tho, so if we streaming we don't embarrassing our self on the internet when we do gaming rage since the camera is disconnected when we smash the table
I much prefer peripherals on the sides. I don’t mind looking around to find the power port, but it’s a PITA to do that same dance with a Type A USB. Since I’m pretty sure those have 3 ways to plug them in.
Seems okay for what it is. Most people don’t game and I don’t know why it’s mentioned in every video of review nature. A game can be small retro activities or similar.
Always good to see Dawid Does Aliexpress Stuff. Where I am that 500 Canadian Roubles comes out at around €335 putting that Aliexpress laptop head to head with an HP 255 G9, 1.2 GHz AMD Athlon 3020e, 8GB single channel RAM, 256GB PCIe M.2 SSD and a 1366 x 768 display. No contest, the HP isn't even in the same room. As for gaming, yes ok, very chuckleworthy, but does anyone in their right mind even want to try gaming on a budget lappy?