What will Nintendo Switch 2's "gimmick" be?
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- čas přidán 13. 01. 2024
- From the Wii Remote to glasses-free 3D, Nintendo is known for their unique and sometimes, controversial, ideas. Let's discuss the possibilities of what Nintendo may bring (or re-introduce) as the "gimmick" for their next-gen console.
#nintendoswitch2 #nintendo #nextgen #vr
Just being a better version of the switch is fine with me
They can’t as it would be too similar like the Wii U
I'd prefer if the games aren't as bad as the Switch's games are now.
@@unsalted6337Ever heard of a lesser known console called the PLAYSTATION 2??
@@BleakVision yes it sold 155m units why?
@@unsalted6337yup, that's what the Wii U was and people didn't buy it. I thought the Wii U was great, btw
A better idea would be to have a detachable second screen that could folded away like the patent. That way you could have the dual screen experience on home or on the go, using the detachable screen whilst the main screen is docked.
Then you'd need two batteries or the secondary screen would have to suck energy from the Joy-Cons. Makes no sense.
Imagine the switch 2 with a screen that can either be docked or slotted into a controller grip. Joycons could be a thing of the past.
I think the word you're looking for is 'Innovation', not gimmick if you're talking about it in a positive sentiment 👍
Gimmick has negative connotations but the true meaning of the word is not necessarily a bad one.
Very true, that's a word my brain completely missed. Thanks for bringing that up!
@@robbiibobbiiI think you should also use ‘switch successor’ or ‘next generation’ instead of switch 2 for a boarder term
I fail to see how motion controls fall more into the "gimmick" conversation more than dual screens. Games built around motion controls are far more interactive and they're still around to this say. Though I hope dual screens come back, or at least the function they provide.
I think it’s because more game can naturally adopt dual screen. Only very specific scanario motion control is useful like Mario kart Wii or Wii Sports Resort. Besides, DS also have the touch screen.
I think I really good idea would be to have the switch not have to be docked almost like a Wii U that could be taken anywhere like you could play your switch in hand held but still have it cast on your tv. It would be awesome for at home multiplayer
My idea is, the device will stream the image to the dock instead of having it plugged in, then the dock will upscale the image to your TV. That way you have two screens, one on the TV screen and one on the device in your hands. You activate handheld mode by simply sliding it open, revealing another screen underneath. The top screen could have a 3D slider.
When it comes to VR, they could have a separate headset for that. Once again the device would stream the image to the headset instead of plugging it in, allowing it to be slim and light.
Your idea is basically just the Wii U with the gamepad but reversed🤣
awesome ideas!! 👍👍
Awesome idea! But i personally would really like a DS like device with a removable top screen, (like in the patent)that you can put in the dock for a Wii u ish experience when you're home.
I really like the dual screen concept of the DS, 3DS and Wii U
So basically a reversed Wii U? 😅
My proposal for a switch successor: Nintendo Attach & Switch
Hardware Spec:
Power: agree on Arlo, about equivalent 2013 version PS4/Xbox one or steam deck
Graphics: 1080p30/720p60 OLED handheld, 1440p30/1080p60 docked
Same cartridge slot except with a piece missing, allows for switch compatibility but new game can’t fit in switchs’ cartridge slot
7” version sold for $349, with a mini version(5.5”) that have LCD for $299
From factor/gimmicks:
A screen and 2 joy-con similar to the switch
The joy-con is modified to remove joy-con drift as well as the addition of pointer control
The new joy-con have a mechanism to swap out the directional button for a D-pad(included) and swap out the main button for a GCN layout(layout piece sold separately)
The switch screen also have a piece of slide rail at the top, allowing the new dock(which is sliced into) to show the screen of the switch
The top slide rail of the attach & switch can also let the switch ‘attach’ other accessories(sold separately)
e.g.
A screen accessories to put on top of it for a DS-like experience but can also be held separately with plugged in joy-con for a more Wii U like one
A front/rear camera + microphone accessories allows for AR stuff but also can be used separately with the kickstand for motion tracking/allowing the game to work when docked
A 3D screen accessories for everything the regular screen accessories do but also have a 3D slider to allow for stereoscopic 3D
A plastic piece allows for VR experience(not as great as PS/Xbox)
Software/Switch Online:
Street pass is coming back, this time used the joy-con to track steps and stuff using the motion sensor
The attach & switch have more software features like Wii, Wii U, DSi and 3DS
A photo app for some photo editing
A sound app for play around with recorded audio
A world news app similar to the Wii
A weather app
A camera app
Mytendo: a upgraded Mii with clothing support
Nintendoverse: Nintendo’s take on the metaverse, which allows for interaction for your Mytendo and also chat with others with picture, share flip note and have game community. This time with ai assisted filtering
Switch online is altered to have 2 tiers
P2P online is now free
Base tier for $29.99 for NES, SNES, sega genesis, master system, N64, Gameboy and GBA games alongside dedicated servers
Expansion pack for $39.99 for GCN, Dreamcast and DS games at launch, with Wii and 3DS later
I like what you're dreaming up here!! I'm hoping for a slightly different approach, but either way it seems that we all want to have a lot of different options here :)
I think the graphics and performance would just be Xbox series S quality, Nintendo want to be the cheapest console option in the market(this is a key ingredient why the game boy, DS, Wii, switch and other Nintendo console succeed, no way they are not gonna do it). Therefore, no way they are gonna have Xbox one X/PS4 Pro or even PS5/Xbox series X power, they also want to have an option for $299 without much compromise. The biggest thing they are gonna cut is gotta be 4K because it is not necessarily and with current tech progression and the slow down of developer adoption to the PS4 Pro/Xbox one X/PS5/Xbox series X, Nintendo is still gonna receive a lot of top of the line 3rd party game and can last for another 7 years. I believe it will launch in 2025 though
@@WatchDoggyDog I read your ideas, I believe the gun can be one of the attachment but I doubt Nintendo is doing a high end racing wheel since Mario Kart won’t need it. Probably third party will do the job if we see the attachment system in the next console.
Selling a console of that power for $349 at the moment is a dream.
@@joeroeinski1107 The Xbox series S is $299 and Nintendo need to compete with that in a value proposition. While it can’t get lower for $299, keep in mind there would not be DLSS 4K(just 1440p) and 1.8 tflops/2.5 GHz docked. Yeah, the switch have the screen and the battery but the Xbox series X is at 4 tflops/3.4 GHz
They should just make the system fully handheld having ScreenCast so you can connect to any TV it also having dual screens that are 3d they should even throw in motion detection that is wireless! It's the generation to combine everything that made these consoles great!
the screencast idea I hadn't thought of, wow!! yes, if you read my comments above/below, I have the same hope, just as buddy who made this video also seems to! combining all of this and having all these options would truly be someyhing entirely new in itself! the ULTIMATE GIMMICK!! HAHAA!! 😋🙌🙏
I just want it to be more reliable
2:38 I find that the DS’ gimmick is blowing into the mic
main gimmick is the dual screens. it's literally the namesake "D(ual) S(creen)"
HD rumble is used in most Nintendo first-party games, at least the ones that I've played.
exactly. I think he could have been more clear in his point there, likely referring to like how games like 1 2 switch used the feature in the "gimmicky" way. lol.
new sub, enjoying this so far, but yea just wanna say hd rumble is totally still in use and a legit gaming upgrade. In Smash you notice it, in TotK I bet it's there, see it's so good you often forget about how much better it is than old rumble, it's seemless and adds a lot. in the same vein, motion controls in the wii era and even to this day also add a lot and are legit/often better. I kick ass in Mario Kart using tilt controls, and although I could do fine without them as well, it's night and day how much more precise you can be with the motion. I've already made my point and will get back to listening, but 1st I just wanna say: I need me a 1st person shooter that uses the motion aiming much like the best ones in the wii era did. it's the optimal way to play, online or in the story mode, and I miss it a lot!!
Thanks for the sub, WatchDoggyDog! Truly appreciate the support. You make a great point regarding HD Rumble. I hadn't thought of it like that. I will say, going back to using a standard rumble controller does feel a tad different. As for the motion controls, I will always defend the controls for Metroid Prime Trilogy. The definitive way to aim in those games were using the Wii Remote pointer controls. Glad you enjoyed the vid, thanks for watching!
Just work out EVERY BUG.. upgrade the hardware so it has a higher FPS rate & better handle larger game files, remedy the joy cons drift issue, give it headphone/microphone capability either via bluetooth or headphone jack. Call it the Super Nintendo Switch and do a Metroid Prime 4 game bundle with the console for the intial release.
Would become the best selling game console ever.
here's my thought... I think nintendo will bring back dual screens (because it worked) the hook will be that you no longer have to dock, the system will stream directly to the tv through some dongle or through the charging dock.
now, the screen will be like a clamshell design, for dual screen play in handheld mode, then you can switch it to single screen mode, by twisting the screen around so the screen faces outside, then fold it down so it looks like you have one screen... and "single screen mode" will be how you play dual screen on the tv. the game will stream and the second screen will be the switch in single screen mode... anyway that's my idea
I don't think Arlo's persistent display idea really works. Whatever they do to build on the Switch's concept is going to need to be something that can work in docked AND handheld. If you need a TV in docked mode to use dual screens, that undermines the concept. How would you get dual screens in handheld mode and tabletop mode?
I think if you're adding dual screens, they have to be detachable. That's the only way it can work with every mode. When you're in handheld, it would be like a DS or 3DS, a dual screen clamshell device with both Joycons attached. When it's in docked mode, you separate one and dock it and keep the other attached to the Joycons and then it works like a Wii U. And then in tabletop mode you could do something like flip the screens so they're both facing away from each other or detach them so each player gets a Joycon and a screen. Something like that would provide a demonstrable improvement over the Switch concept in all modes and would make it even more versatile than it already is. So if they can get that concept to work at a reasonable price and quality, that's absolutely the direction they should go for.
It will be called the Click, the Swotch, or the Zapp
I think the foldable screen idea is great and I’m excited to see how devs utilize it
They'll have the switch 2 display TV and handheld at the same time so they can port all Wii U games a second time
Switch 2 has similar specs with Quest 3 (which has amazing games like Asgard's Wrath 2 and Assassin's Creed Nexus)
Nintendo's main consumers are kids and they love VR (Gorilla Tag is a popular game with kids)
You don't even need to be worried about motion sickness with them because they seem to be immune to it for some reason, at least with modern VR.
That said it doesn't even have to be a purely VR headset, just a normal console with a VR mode.
Something like Pimax Portal if you haven't heard of that.
That's a really great point. I agree.. a regular console with a VR mode sounds much more likely, imo, than a headset.
I mean if the screen is gonna have 120hz then motion sickness would be a non-issue if it has the processing power to maintain a stable 120fps.
However I don’t think a handheld with a VR mode would be a good idea given that the screen would get fingerprints and dirt, dust, etc
The specs might be similar but the hardware is very different. The Quest 3 uses a Snapdragon SoC that is geared towards high refresh rate VR, and the Switch 2 is using an evolution of the Nvidia Tegra SoC. Plus, I don't think Nintendo's main audience is kids, they're moreso towards the family as a whole (a kids game is something that adults wouldn't want to play, yet look at the catalogue of "kids" games that adults still have fun playing).
I believe the next big thing for nintendo will be perfecting what they started with the wii that is improved motion controls. I think they create a microsoft kinect like camera and a motion controller for a better motion controller experience. I think if they can attract the wii audience along with core fanbase of the switch audience they can have the success of the wii and success of the switch combined they probably can sell 200 million units that way or be the first console to do it.
imo i feel like they dominated both home / handheld console formula with the Nintendo Switch that unless if PlayStation or Xbox tries to do that, they can be comfortable making a Switch 2 just the same as Switch but which better specs... they dominate this concept too well
i dont know about you, but my switch is in the media cabinet next to the tv, which is like a solid 5m from the couch. a second screen that far away is so tiny that it’s basically useless. you cant have any sort of inventory functionality like the wii u because its in the dock, and you cant really have any meaningful hud or map in it because it looks so tiny in normal use
What if they use AI technology to upscale older games? I bet there will even be an AI assistant that'll manage your exact save points in games that you can also interact with.
The other screen in the dual screen could be your phone or tablet via an app.
Can't wait for the Nintendo DSwitch with 2 screens
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NS2 Gimmick, its a Robot Butler Dock.
I don’t think they’ll have a gimmick to define the system. That was more of an Iwata/Reggie era tradition. Nintendo nowadays under Furukawa/Doug Bowser is very different. The Switch 2 will be much more like the PlayStation model of transition from one generation to another, like the PS4 to PS5.
We already SEEN the Furukawa era, with the barrenness of the UI, cheap money with 3D all-stars, joy-con drift as well as less obsessed compared to Wii and Wii U with the marketing material and console idea. Doug Bowser only change how they market it, not how they make it. If it ain’t broken, why fix it? If it have no new selling point, the switch successor MUST have PS5/Xbox series X power or even better to sell.
If you are being optimistic, MAYBE they can have a pro model after launch(or during launch, but even less possible) for the core audience, then if they risk it and not succeed, they won’t have much drawback. Don’t worry, they won’t force it on you like the Wii and Wii U(proven by switch)
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I don't see how the Switch is a gimmick at all. Joycons that can fuse into a single standard controller or split into two smaller controllers complete with motion controls doesn't sound gimmicky at all. It only sounds innovative to me IMO. Not every attempt at innovation results in a gimmick. Sometimes they're genuinely useful, like games that use gyroscope functionality to assist with aimimg on a right stick. Not a gimmick at all as it's genuinely useful. It becomes a gimmick in the scenario it is applied in.
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Honestly they should upgrade the dock so you can connect to the TV and dual screen gameplay is possible.
they should just build a rtx 4090 into the docking station and leave everything else as it is
I hope they go vr
honestly I just want more power and a better screen. also backwards compatibility is a must.
Is the music from a game
Dual screen eh ?
Ever heard of a little thing called.....Wii U ?
song?
Faron Woods from Zelda: Twilight Princess :)
There will almost certainly be some kind of gimmick😂 Nintendo cannot help themselves. I just wish they could put that money into joycons that dont drift, a proper amount of internal storage and adequate RAM (at least 12GB) to be on par with xbox series s type performance. Dont need 120fps (60 is fine) a 1080p OLED screen would he nice and faster I/O for loading times.
Or there should be a Nintendo Switch 2 Pro or 2 Ultra Model released as well XD
Hey, just a little tip, try and get to the point a little quicker and focus the video time of necessary info, but other than that the video was good ✨💖
Thanks for the honest feedback, it's much appreciated! Yea I'm still working on getting my points across, as well as my pacing. I'll absolutely keep that in mind for my next videos. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I think he did great! you gotta hit every poont as it comes before getting to the meat and potatoes, in order to lay down a proper foundation! haha. NEW SUB 🎉
The switch 2 gimmick could be magnetic joycons. That seamlessly attach to the screen.
isnt that lenovo legion go?
I think this would be an enhancement for a switch pro than switch 2. Kinda like the new 3DS with the face tracking 3DS and second shoulder button
VR is the new console not the main console for Nintendo and the gimmick for the headset is if you die in the game you die in real life perfect
3D and VR, yes! also, is VR already considered 3D already? or could that be an added effect/feature? either way, that's the route I hope they go. give us the DS option, 3D, which would actually be hype/create big buzz if it were like the 3DS but with these PS4.5ish level graphics, and glasses free, unless using the TV. lol. precise motion controls too, in a multiplayer setting, all these different options could be used at once! and give us a high end racing wheel and gun set peripherals, AND BONGOS! haha! the Nintendo Switch Option!! whoch no they'd have to just call it the switch 2, but still. OR, better yet would be if they made a PS5 level system, and included a "nintendo portal" like handeld option a la Sony, so then all the above features can still be included! people could pick and choose what they want, and Nintendo would make a killing off of many of us who would end up buying most of it if it were high quality, as it would be unprecedented!! awesome video dude 🎉😎👊 we'll see soon enough!
backwards compatibility. or something with ai.
Hmmm imagine a switch 2 with 3ds like gimmick hehehe
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Vr please
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