Blade 230s Smart RC Heli issues.
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- čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
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In this video i try to capture the issues i am having with one of my Blade 230s Smart's from Horizon Hobby.
I ended up with two of these and both had to be sent back, one was replaced with a new one and it is flying great.
The other was looked at, tail boom replaced and was returned. It is having some major issues.
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This helicopter deserves to be recalled, it has way too many issues to be on the market.
Agreed.
I got mine flying pretty good. Of course, now is 2 years after this video, but anyway, I digress... I have a fusion 180 that is almost, well, pretty much, unflyable. Sent it back to HH and they said it flew perfectly for them for 2 batteries worth. Sent it back to me untouched, only to have the same, wanting to bury the rotors in the ground on spool up, then have to hold lots of right stick, and as the flight progresses, have to start holding left to the point I can't even go any more left, and then have to land. Something DEFINATELY not right!
Now, the good news..sort of..
I got an Infusion 180 as my first heli, like you, after many years. Used to have (well, I still do) a Thunder Tiger Raptor 30, and a zoom Shogun, anyway, That Infusion 180 flew like CRAP!! Same thing with trying to bury the rotors, was an ugly mess! I got in touch with tech support back when they still had phone help, and the guy set me up with a new program for my radio that fixed EVERYTHING! Gave me all the proper telmetry I wasn't getting before, no more dumb spool up tip diggin' tendencies, the things a kitten now! lol
So, I guess what I'm saying is, it's either something in the bind, or something in the program. I just wish those guys could have loaded whatever flight data they were using, on to my card which I had sent along with the heli for 'repairs'. Now it sits on my shelf, waiting for me to learn enough about all this stuff to take a viable, educated stab at fixing it.
Mine was doing the same out of the box. Did the trim flight and all is well.
I'm glad I came across your video! I was going to buy a 230s, but I'll reevaluate that thought! No way.
The V1 and the V2 are great from what I understand. Just the 230s smart version that sucks. They change the FBL for that one.
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All ready had u on mine nice to get to meet u today
Good to meet you also!
It flys like mine, pulls hard to left. Longer I fly it the harder it pulls. Tried everything in forward programming and calibration etc. Flies fine in stunt 1 & 2
I’ve been working with Horizon and they sent me out a new flight controller. The also said some heli’s can have a harmonic vibration and it can freak out the gyro. I found that the swash in this one had a lot of play in it. The guy at Verizon told me to send him a video of the play to confirm that it is excessive but it is much more then how much plays in the one that is not giving me trouble. He said excessive play in the swash could be a primary contributing factor. They told me how to basically “turn down” the safe mode action in forward programming.
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My nano s3 out of the box flew hard to the right and backwards, adjusted the blades and tightened the feathering shaft and now it hovers rock solid. I have the 230 smart rtf and it flies fine.
Try flying it outside of normal mode light sport flight for about two min, then bring it to a hover and flip it down into normal mode and see what it does.
My Namo S3 did the same thing. And I just did it to fly fine.
Horizon Actually got the helicopter to do what I was talking about when they finally fluid the way I said and in the end they told me that on the 230 S smart you should calibrate the FBL before each flight. That’s just shooting me a line of crap in my opinion because it doesn’t say that anywhere.
I purchased 2 v2's within this year,with no issues @ all. Im sorry about your prob. & wished i could help . Some of these have been troublesome from the git go. Glad I made a "Smart" buy with the older models.
Yeah I have heard from many the V2 was awesome and the Smart version Flight control is trash. Many with the same issues I’m having.
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Must be a problem with so many comments. Love my Nano S3. It flies perfect
My nano S3 flies perfect also but this 238 smart flies like trash.
I got issues with mine as well.
Mine has never been Safe in SAFE mode at all.
Strange thing is that it is Rock Steady in FM1 and FM2, but when i change back into FM0 - Safe mode - it goes into Extreme Rearward drift.
Thanks for Video Knights Garage.
mine is the same way but if i ever go to SAFE mode and back to one of the other flight modes it still becomes hard to handle. I haven't touched my 230s Smart in nearly two years because of this. I have flown my Nano a bunch.
@@KnightsGarage takes away your confidence in flying it doesn't it. I use mine now for strictly "Non-safe" Training flights only.
@@KnightsGarage Pity HH aren't watching what the Automotive Industry does - if this problem happened to a particular car, That Franchise would have action a World-wide Recall on all 230's. are you listening Horizon Hobbies ?
Mine is doing the same thing Bradford. Just got mine on Friday and already unflyable because the flight mode switching issue caused it to crash. Waiting to hear back from Horizon. Needs to be recalled. Over $300 spent on this thing, I’m not happy.
Yes they had me send three of mine in and replaced two of them. They all did it. I went back and forth with them for months with no resolution. They told me everything from you should not change flight modes unless the helicopter is on the ground, not flying and disconnect, all motors and calibrate the FBL before each flight.
Have you tried checking and adjusting your linkages on on the helicopter itself. After itself. That is thing number one.. Thing number 2 when you flip the switch from stability mode to agility mode the blades are supposed to speed up. They do 70% throttle all you're doing is adjusting the pitch of the blades for it to fly. The motor will spool up faster in agility mode then it does in stability mode
Mine got the same issues. I bought use one, but "brand new"... And I started to fight with it for 2 years, and now I am fed up. Anyway, I also bought new receiver. It's a few better, but still not good... I think this is my last HH heli.
And I guess HH should give our money back for this clinker. I spend so much money, time and nerves on this crap, and now I just find out it is an only trash, so I bined something about 500$... Thank you HH!
Please guys tell me that there is some hope to fix this kitsch!
stick control had no responds,crashed hit a pine tree,check heli the rear blade were gone ,not because of lose screw, but blew off the motor shaft .
I know what you mean, i got the 330s and nothing but issues it wobbles all over b4 take off and its impossible to control, well after i finally got it up it was erratic and i had a fatal crash, come to find out after my crash it needed a firmware update, the swash plate wasnt balanced at the factory, the attitude settings were wrong. and now im sending it back and i doubt they will actually fix it right and the best part is HH said it can take up to a year to get it back. Smh.
I’ve sent mine back a bunch of times with no fix. They didn’t start addressing the problem until the last three or four times I sent it in. Then the last time I sent it in they told me I had to calibrate the FBL before each flight. Just throwing lines of BS at me basically.
I am having the same problem as you. Tilts to the right and have to use lost of correction. What did you with Horizon to correct?
In the end they really offered no solution. I did get them to finally fly it long enough to duplicate the issue but they went on to say I needed to recalibrate the FBL before each flight. They basically just shot me a line of BS to shut me up and said they weren’t going to do anything else for it.
@@KnightsGarage I have done a factory reset, calibration and test flight. No go. I believe a bad gyro as you other flies great. Bad customer service.
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Yes I sold the other one so I wouldn’t have to anymore and I haven’t flown the one that is still acting up since the first flight after I got it back from Horizon and saw it was still doing the same thing. Remember on the one I still have they have replaced the FBL one time and the new one did the same thing the old one did. And they denied it was even doing it the first 4 or 5 times I sent it into them. One time they told me the trims were off on my ready to fly controller and I emailed them back to let them know I had never used that controller I have a NX8. Just horrible customer service and don’t really care if it flies right or not after you purchase it you’re stuck with it.
Hey,
Have you tried adjusting the attitude trim in safe mode via the forward programming in your transmitter? Forward programming is only visible in the transmitter with the heli powered on. Otherwise you should try that . If it gets better , then you are adjusting in the right direction . If it gets worse then adjust in the opposite .
You can also go negative.
My settings are : Roll 500 and Pich -180.
If you adjust 100 that means 1 degree of the swash plate.
You may not focus on my set values. Yours may be different from mine.
Good luck.
I have done a few trim flights which adjust the attitude trim settings in Safe mode.
So yes the attitude trims have been adjusted. They even were sent back to the start parameters when I reset the sensor and then did a calibration. Keep in mind with the one that is flying badly I just got it back from Horizon Who said it was good. When I received it back safe mode was turned off in all flight modes. Safe mode is where I’m having these issues.
I just talked to horizon again and they agree it’s a bad flight controller and they are sending me a new one.
@@KnightsGarage I wonder if it will be resolved. Please let me know here.
@@eddy4765 Hopefully so. I had to buy two of them. Both had to be sent back to horizon. The first one is good and it’s the one that is flying good.
The one that is having all the issues is the one that they looked at and said was good. But when I got it back it had safe mode turned off in every flight mode. Which tells me they did not fly it in safe mode and that is what is giving me trouble.
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I truly believe we were ripped off with these helicopters. I bought one 4 months ago. I am a really good RC Heli pilot having flown the T-Rex 500 - 600 and other brands of heli's for years. The Blade 230 s RTF flew really well for 1 month then started moving backwards uncontrollably. I couldn't figure it out up to now. The receiver light is solid orange but the flight controller light just flashes. There are other guys at our club that is having the same problems with their Blade 230s's ..... they are going sideways and backwards uncontrollably. We set them aside. I will try to rebind this winter and test to try and figure out the problems. No one in our club will buy this crap after they see what's happening.
Agreed I bought two and they sent me several replacements. I ended up selling one of them and I still have one that I never fly. I read where a few people replace the flight controller with an icon mini but I just don’t know if I wanna spend that money on this heli. I can still fly. The crap out of my nano S3 and I have build a Align 470 LT that I need to get out and fly.
But there’s 230 S smart version is a real hunk of crap.
Mine flys great out of the box. Not a pile of crap and glad I bought it.
Did you ever get this sorted out? I bought the blade 230S RTF and it flies great. Bought another 230S, but BNF, set it up on my DX8 and it does the same thing yours does, drifts hard to the left. Tried a calibration and a trim flight, but nothing. I just opened a ticket with Horizon Hobby
Nope. I sent it to them probably about five or six times and they refuse to fly it in a way that makes it do it. Even after I talk to them on the phone and explained it and sent a letter explaining. Do you have to fly it in flight mode one or two for about two min then flip it back down in the normal mode (safe) and it really goes crazy. And it’s progressive so it gets worse each time you fly. If you land and start it will be good for another couple minutes and then it would act up when pushed back into normal mode (safe).
The last time they sent it back to me they said they got it to produce the drift but it wasn’t crazy enough to concern them. But that’s because they flew around for two minutes in safe mode which is not what I told him to do.
In the end he told me I needed to calibrate the FBL before each flight which is insane. The smart version of this helicopters just a shit helicopter IMO.
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I ended up Programming the Safe out of the FM's. just used all 3 FM's with differing D/R's : that helped me train myself to not rely on SAFe at all. Helped me gain confidence.
Re place the main board and check the servos other than that you might have to re build it or send it back to horizon hobby with a detail of what is wrong .
I have sent this thing back to them five times now the last four times I sent it with a letter stating exactly how you had the flyer and what it was doing and it’s like they ignore that and don’t fly out long enough or don’t fly out of safe mode and then put it in safe mode to make it happen. It’s like they’re consciously avoiding getting the helicopter to do what I’m experiencing just so they don’t have to address it. They just checked the mechanical set up which is always good and they say they only fly the helicopters about 30 to 45 seconds when they get them in after repairs.
Mine is ding the same thing
They are all trash when in a mode that Safe is enabled. It's an issue with the safe mode on the smart models. They don't care to address it because most of the sales are from beginners and Horizon blames the user. The only people that love these for the most part are good to great Heli pilots that never fly in Safe mode.
My Nano S3 flys much better than this 230s smart.
Do trim flight, it will make it fly like a different heli
I guess you don’t know the history and haven’t read all the comments, but I had done multiple trim flights. Helicopter had been back-and-forth to horizon several times and in the end they told me I basically had to recalibrate the Gyro and do a trim before each time I flew the helicopter. Which you both know is a load of crap they’re just telling me something to get me out of their face because they refused to address the issue.
That's so frustrating!! With forward programming can you get to the attitude trim settings!! I was wondering if you can with the 230 SMART if you can put the roll to 0 that's what I had to do on my 330s Nice to see you in person, and please let me know what your name is 😄👍Horizon Hobby have got a lot to answer for!!
When I set my attitude trim to zero it has a drift at lift off. Attitude trim is the trim in safe mode. Every time you do a trim flight it changes the attitude trim numbers. Yes horizon hobby has been horrible about this issue when it comes down to actually doing something about the issue. I bet I have talk to every person that works there about it and sent the Heli in about 6 times. Time before last I figured out that they weren’t flying it but about 30 seconds to 1 minute and that’s not long enough for the issue to get bad.
And the last time they did fly it for about two minutes and said they got a drift to happen but said I should be calibrating the fbl before every flight. That’s not a fix, that’s a load of crap. They keep telling me that I’m the only one that is complaining about this issue of it developing drifts but I tell them there are many on the internet Talking about it on the 230 s smart and the 330 s smart. Name is Randy.
Do you run a small amount of positive expo? I found with my Blade Helie's if you have no expo.they will lean around on take off!! Yes sounds like crap to me😖
@@IansRCExploits I have the 30% the book calls for. It doesn’t really take off bad it does have a slight lean over on takeoff but I just pop it up no problem. The issue is if you fly for two minutes or more in flight mode one or two and then switch it back down to normal mode to land it develops a really horrible drift. The drift gets progressively worse and worse but if you land and take back off it goes away. It’s like the helicopter is losing its point of level. This last time they just said that you need to calibrate the sensor before each flight which is nuts it doesn’t say that anywhere and no one is out here recalibrating there FBL before every flight
No Randy that's just a cop out!! They said similar to me!! I think you've got a bad controller In that one!! My 330s when you take off drifts to the left but if you hover for around a minute it clears and then it's fine 😄👍
@@IansRCExploits In the other 230 S smart that I had they replaced the FBL. But it didn’t solve the issue. Mine is always good on takeoff but after you fly for a while it just gets progressively worse. It gets worse to the point of it being on flyable if you just keep flying after it starts to drift. But if you land and immediately take back off it goes away
Have you tried to trim it ?
Tried everything. Horizon has replaced parts and even the entire heli once. The last time they just told me I needed to calibrate the FBL before each flight which is crazy. I have spoken to a lot of other people that have the smart version of this helicopter and are having very similar or the same issues. My understanding the V2 is awesome and the one was good but the smart version is a piece of junk.
Have you tried it without safe mode?
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And yes I have. It seems ok outside of SAFE mode. The issues is with SAFE.
Mine don't fly right either,, its got some volt issues on the rtf transmitter and no auto level on on dx6e ..I was told the auto level on the 230 needs 7 channels to operate..but my 150 flys fine in auto level....I got over a few hundred flights on mine and it's fine in acro modes ..so I just live with it ..blades went to shitt! Get ya a omp
I’m using an NX8 not the RTF transmitter. Also the DXS have a 7th channel available. It’s something in the new micro FBL they are using in the Smart version.
@@KnightsGarage that's right it does have 7 ,,but my problems are in the smart throttle with the radio and flight board. So I have 2 problems that and nobody can seem to get that thing to drift right .when they switch back into normal mode the heli slams sideways,,so I call B's on the recalibrate thing they having people do because you would need to do it in the air to switch back and you can't. I bought mine for a 100 bucks on clearance last fall ..I do a lot of 3d and of you push this bird to hard the links pop off the swash..so I'd get ya a metal one for sure ..it's not safe with the plastic one..this bird hurts when it hits you cause of it
@@jakelang4387 yeah it’s crazy after sending it back five or six times they just threw that bullshit about recalibrating before each flight out there. And I said it doesn’t say that anywhere in any manual or anything anywhere about recalibrating before each flight. And the guy was like “I’m gonna talk to the team and try to get it added to the manual..” whatever bro.
I told him I know when somebody shooting smoke up my ass.
@@KnightsGarage they told my buddy that bought a 230 off them the same as you..I bought mine off a 3rd party so I'm screwed..,I love the helicopter tho it sounds good ,,if you've ever had that thing in a panic to keep it from crashing like I have ,it sounds mean as hell trying to escape the dirt or trees ,it will bogg way down deep
@@jakelang4387 interesting. They told me I was the first they had heard of with this issue. I knew that sounded unbelievable as many people that’s having the issue online.
A clockwise heli has to lean to the right. The SAFE system keeps it level, hence the drift to the left.
I hear what you’re saying but if that was simply the case then it would do it all the time. The helicopter starts out being able to hover pretty much hands-free and then develops a horrible drift back and to the left. I’m not talking about like the winds blowing a little bit and it’s drifting. I’m talking about it goes back and to the left like you’re jamming the cyclic back and to the left.
Did you do the servo center check, check adjust swash level and blade degree angle, then recalibrate the flight controller, then do a trim flight? The manual is sort of vague on how to actually set the helicopter up and lists things in an odd order.
Yes. I did all of that on both. Problem isn’t with set up because one flies great and the other is absolute trash. With this video Horrizon Hobby finally agrees it is a bad flight controller and is sending me a new one.
@@KnightsGarage Hopefully the new one works a bit better. Glad you got it sorted to the point of replacement.
@@shvrdavid me too. It was driving me crazy. The drift would get worse and worse as you were flying it until the point at about 2 1/2 or 3 minutes in and it would be almost uncontrollable. It would even try to tip itself over after I have landed and had my throttle all the way down and hold on. It was doing crazy stuff.
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