The DEATH Of American English Mouth Positions
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 1. 10. 2022
- Look, if you want to study American English mouth positions, let's get real for a moment. English has at least 44 different vowel and consonant sounds. Trying to remember how to do each vowel and consonant mouth position when you're trying to talk with friends, give a presentation, or do a job interview is not very practical. There must be some way to still sound natural, though, without worrying about where to put your tongue or how wide your mouth needs to be! This Fluent American English pronunciation video gives you the 3 keys you need to consider to achieve a more consistent, natural sound in English--all without mouth position!
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Who am I? My name is Geoff Anderson. I got my MA in Teaching English as a Second Language in 2012, and have been teaching since 2010. I've studied Italian to around level C1-C2. I was also an IELTS examiner for the speaking/writing tests for 3 years.
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Thank you so much! I have been watching many videos on this topic but none of them have been useful to me to actually understand my problem. Your example about using my ribs and the explanation alongside it was an eye opener.
so glad to hear! thanks for watching and writing
I had an experience I'm gonna share with y'all. I 100% agree with this video đ„łand hope to save somebody from all the stress language learning may come with.
This comment gon' be a lil long y'aaaall! đ Hey I warned ya, you may wanna grab a bite while readin' this.
Trying to get all your sounds super clear and authentic, while also trying to keep a perfect mouth posture actively was the death of my speech. It made it choppier as I was taking pauses in the mid of sentences, more often than my ego would let me tell you.
When I saw that I was putting that much extra work and there's literally videos of folks on youtube who learned english just by shadowing, and sound mostly natural...
That's when I got enragedđĄđ. Work smarter not harder...
Long story short, I picked up my favourite tv show (Seal Team) and started binge watching it, trying to analyze their accents.
Without stressing too much about it tho ehđ€Ł, enjoy your tv shows folksđż.
With the knowledge about placement I had from Geoff it just clicked, they had a total different placement far from mine and sounded just like Geoff describes it. I stood down for 2-3 weeks and I forgot about my bad old style of speaking. 2-3 seasons in I went back to pratice speaking...
That's when I realized how my mind had NATURALLY picked up one of the actors' placement my pitch sounded alike. And realized I naturally started to imitate him (David Boreanaz) when I spoke.
Forget about all the American default mouth position videos and reading of every detail on forums. Sure you still want some knowledge but let me tell ya, the same mouth posture I was trying to keep there actively weeks before, I have now naturally and comes with the placement I adopt.
Also, in your mother tongue, I'd bet my bottom dollar you're able to imagine how your father and your mother would sound like saying different phrases. I bet you can think of their voices and accent in your mind. I think as accent learners we STRONGLY need that reference in our mind, it makes us more confident when we speak.
Sorry for my lil rant. I just wish I had done this way back in the days.
Keep it up and stay awesome!â
last time we talked and you mentioned going into the Batcave to study on your own for a while, I was so happy you talked about those things because I was in the middle of making this video. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Iâm gonna take your piece of advice and practice it recently Iâve been watching better call Saul and Mikeâs placement sounds pretty good Iâll try to imitate it
@@theflakox8012 great to find an actor/character you like and listen to them as much as possible!
Thank you for sharing. We are not many but we have bright people in this channel.
Tks!
Good to hear from you Pedro! Thank YOU!
Great video ! đ
thanks so much Samy! Which point waxs most helpful for you?
@@FluentAmerican i really like the way you show that a good mouth posture with a bad placement or breath can't sound natural
@@trent7007 very helpful to know; thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the lesson! Not gonna lie, there were times when I was practicing in the mirror, just to see where my mouth was when making a sound in A.E
For some sounds I think that can really make sense (the /ae/ sound comes to mind) but not as one of the primary tools in most cases
Thanks as always!
Great video GeoffđJust one remark, @4:22 I think for the /U /sound the high placement sounds to me like the lower placement?
ahhh you're right, not sure how they got switched! Pinned so others see...hopefully people get the idea!
@@FluentAmerican Ah great, thanks! I thought something is wrong with my hearingđ
Nope, just my midnight editing đ
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It's called 4-Step American Accent. It goes through the 4 major concepts you need to sound natural (NOT mouth position). They include placement, pitch, breath, and weakened consonants
Geoff, As for weakening consonants in words, is it the case that native speakers never have strong consonants ? To be honest, I notice that some Americans speak with strong consonants. I also heard that it is possible to make them strong especially if we want to sound more confident. So to sum up, will I sound unnatural if I make them strong? I noticed it in the accent of Andrew Tate and his brother ( if you know them)
not sure if Andrew is the best model as his accent is a bit unique--I also haven't really listened to him much, but hearing him in this clip, his consonants don't sound overly strong to me: czcams.com/users/shortsU4pc1Whr4rE
@@FluentAmerican got it . Thanks for the answer
How about stressing them to sound more confident?
Is it true?
@@FluentAmerican are his consonants stronger than yours, Geoff?
To me , they do sound stronger
@@FluentAmerican czcams.com/video/z79CiWeRa8Q/video.html
His brother seems to stress consonants too but i may be wrong as well
it's an interesting idea; unfortunately, I haven't looked at that specifically enough to give a great answer, in all honestly. My gut says that it's not necessary to though