Gotrax F1 Folding Ebike - Bargain or Bust?
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I really appreciate the review. Best review I've watched so far for any entry-level ebike or escooter and not just a sales pitch like most.
Thanks for the review . Man your looking stronger every time I see your videos . So glad your doing a lot better 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great to have you back on the bike and looking so well，
Hey you're looking great! Hope this means you're feeling better. Great Vid as usual.
Good to see you back on the bike and looking healthy!
Real competitor for the Lectric Lite
Basically the exact same bike but 200 bucks cheaper.
@@michaelberry1837the Gotrax has a brake light which is only one feature but an important one for some people....and it's 200 cheaper....So I'm going with the Gotrax F1
Good luck finding a battery for it. Also Lectric EX Lite has significant more range.…
how is that even possible? they both use 48v 7.8AH batteries and the same motor. They also weigh the same. Physics would disagree with you. Where is this extra range coming from, the $200 extra? I own a lectric lite since launch and this bike is the exact same bike with the exception of a slightly different display. I bet my money if I bought one that
I could use my two lite batteries in it. @@maryl.7226
They sell spare batteries on their site and I guarantee its the same as the lectric lite battery. Looks identical with the same specs. The bicycle itself is identical and considering Lectric doesn't make their bikes I'm willing to bet they are from the same factory. How many chinese factories do you think produce this? My money is on 1. @@maryl.7226
Thanks for the review, pretty nice low budget folder. I just bought my wife a $799 Auloor 750W48V12.8AH Full suspension folder that hits 31mph and rides really nice! I figure at that price, I can upgrade all components in it and still be under $2K. My XP2.0 style 750W T42 folder gets 34mph and is rock solid coasting at 50mph on 20x4 tires!
Thanks for doing these affordable e-bike reviews! An inexpensive e-bike is my first choice when starting out. I know myself well enough to know that I might feel differently about biking in general in a year. Will I keep it up or will the excitement fade? Secondly, I like the choice of a foldable bike. I've looked into the cost of a hitch and rack. It ain't cheap. I like the option of folding it up and throwing it in the trunk.
Hello. I just got an e-bike a couple weeks ago and started bench watching the heck out of your videos. I'm sorry to hear about your sickness. I'm very greatfull that your making a good recovery.
I'm hoping you can take a look at this bike and maybe giving it an affordability review.
So the bike I bought is called vivi foldable mountain bike.
it's a 500w motor 48v battery 🔋.
It goes 20mph no problems for me while I'm 200 pounds.
Only paid $600 on it
Bikes like this are a good back up bike. There are things that go wrong on a regular bike that requires sending parts out for repairs. For those who love to just get out and ride, look around and enjoy the sun- being without is not fun.
this just got on a deal for 600. 10/10 would recommend. i’m getting this for my birthday in 2 weeks and it looks great!
How’s the bike
@@vambat3523 pretty giid
@@dylanplayshockeyhow long does the battery last ?
@@gxxdbye708 me and my friends would go riding for 1-3 hours at night and i’ve never had it die on me. It’s also never went below 2/5 bars
$800 is still to expensive without hydraulic brakes. Being just a basic bike. Need to find out what the torque on the 350 W motor is though. Good to see you out and about on the single speed riding. Hope your doing much better Kyle.
Can you please do a comparison with the Lectric XP Lite?
That small of a battery must be in the $250 range.. I would just get another battery and it probably only weighs 4 lbs or less. 😂
Freaking beautiful green spring ride.
Not sure if you've looked at it, but I have a Fiido D4S (~90 miles with it so far) and it's similar but it's 6-speed, 36v 10.4Ah, 250W motor. $800 MSRP but I got mine for $720. Probably a bit slower and rougher around the edges, but it's really nice to have gears. (for speed, I do right fairly upright so am not the best judge of it)
They claim it goes 50 miles in moped mode, but I did a 20mi (total) trip w/mostly PAS 2 and the battery gauge started blinking on the way home. I know the battery meter fluctuates up and down normally depending on usage... so it seems like potentially some fault of going by voltage, and maybe even the battery indicator saying it's dead super early at 20% due to poor design/programming (for instance, flashing could be 1 extra battery level, or more if the other levels flashed). Or just so users are paranoid into range-anxiety rather than careless? (though that could have the opposite effect if they don't trust the meter)
A legal nitpick with the display/controller is that there isn't a way to disable the throttle so it's technically Class II even though OotB it has 15.5mph (EU) speed limit (also didn't come with a US plug, but luckily the cable could be replace because it's a common 2-prong power cord). Also like the bike in the video, twist throttle thus cannot be easily removed physically... though my first ride the chain fell off almost immediately because the derailleur was not tuned right (so I needed a throttle to get home). 90% of the time I use it to crawl to or out of a stop, and the other 10% I'm not around people.
No bell (there is a horn) but I got a basic bell (looks same as in video) for $12 at the local shop.
Is there a small hole to charge or do I have to take out the battery to charge it?
After seeing your video I ɓought one. I have a Rad Mini 4
I do short trips my Mini is heavy. Bought it love it
I am glad you are continuing to cover folders. I have had five, and at one time owned 11 bikes of all kinds. I guess I have owned 20+ in my 50 years of cycling. Now I own a new gravel bike, a very good vintage road bike, a Dahon Mariner 7-speed 20" folder and a Plug E-bike. The Plug is very similar to the Gotrax but has 16" wheels - and I use 1.35 Marathons. I want a bike like a sports car, not an SUV! It only weighs 35 lbs. Mine is 350W and 36V, and gearing is about 64" (fixed). I have 3 levels, about 15-20kms/hr; 20-25 and 25-30. I never use 3 because I can't spin fast enough to go much faster than 25 anyway. (My last city bike was a 700C fixie.) I agree that yours has more power. But it would help if you actually measure the pitch of your test hills. I can go up the 10%er outside my place, but it takes all my, and its, power. But I never have to stand. BTW the range on it is about 75kms, with hills and headwinds.
My cheap brakes could be better, but you should know that rear brakes on any bike are not as effective as front ones. That is why the pads last longer. I am thinking about getting those one-piece hydraulics you have. But my gravel bike has dual-piston TPR mechanicals and they are great.
I paid $850 Cdn for mine. That’s about $650USd, and I wouldn't pay much more. My Dahon Mariner cost $1100Cdn now! My gravel bike was over $2000, and I am tempted to do a front-hub conversion on it! But after 10,000 kms and two years, the Plug will continue to be my city bike.
Hello, you seem like an expert on bikes and e-bikes. Would you mind telling me your opinion on the e-bike in reviewed in this video? I sit at a desk all day for work and most of my hobbies so I'd love an e-bike w/o breaking my wallet. Looking forward to taking a foldable one to a couple diff cities and just cruising around. Btw - I see it listed on Amz now for $550 now. Thanks!
@@zerocal76 Looks good to me.
@@barrybogart5436 Thanks 👍
Awesome - question, folded, how tall is the overall bike? I saw conflicting info. so was hoping for a 'real world' measurement. Thanks!!
This is old but speaking on mechanical brakes. These are fine the problem is the brake cables. Swap the cables on any mechanical disc brake setup to compressionless housings and the brakes will work great.
Lookin good there Kyle! Now, about the bike. It looks like a lectric xp lite, and seems to perform more like one. It might be a rebrand. Solid review of an inexpensive ride.
The Gotrax has more power, and a tail/brake light standard.. It's a newer better quality and cheaper XP Lite which is just obsolete and overpriced at this point.
at the hairpin on old downieville going into town. at 25 mph my volador is getting close to almost perpendicular
Wow it sounds and looks just like the Lectric Lite. Same zippy motor, same weight, even the same grips.
Some municipalities have laws governing max wattage of motors , so it actually better to under state wattage. In Toronto is 500 watt max and about 18? mph, beyond that, they need insurance and license as a motorcycle.
Well, the price now is $599. My current bike is an Eahora. I love it can recharge the battery as I go. It weighs 66 lbs and hard to lift into my van. I read 4 great reviews on the F1. If I need nire range I'll buy a second 7.8v battery at 5 lbs. $599!!
I’m about 5ft7 190lbs , how would the speed and handling be you think?
You mention spending roughly $50 to put different brakes on this, could you attach a link of your recommendation/s?
used one for $250.... for my wife's mom. She's 61. Have you done a distance test? We go camping a lot
I have a Gotrax EBE08 Mountain bike 500w with a 750w peak bike and I can confirm that Gotrax selects motors for torque more than speed. I've added a 52v battery and an unlocked display and I've only gone from 32km/h to 37km/h however I can outclimb my friends bike which is a 750w motor with a 1000w peak. With the 52v 15amp battery on there with a full battery I'm pulling 825w peak on the 15amp controller and it's only a 52lbs bike so hills are not a problem at all. You won't go that fast but it will keep whatever speed you get through hills and dips better than motors that are built for speed. And as a side bonus you'll get more range at the slightly slower speeds. In my city 37km/h is actually too fast for the bike lanes with all the phone zombies, people clued out like someone gave them 20cc's of Thorazine, People using the bike lane as an extended sidewalk. etc. The mechanical brakes are actually not too bad on mine with better pads, however I ordered some cable actuated hydraulic brakes which are a straight bolt on to give a little more braking power. They are not as good as a full hydraulic system but you should get around 30-50% better braking power on already a light bike to begin with compared to straight mechanical. How many amps are you pulling on that bike? Hit the mode button until you see "cur" then do the calculation. Ie if you are pulling 10 amp thats 48vx10 or 480 watts at nominal voltage. Most 350 motors have an 11 or 12 amp max controller so peak would be around the 550-600 range. I think this would be perfect as a little runabout on a camper or RV. You don't want to toodle into town in a huge ass motorhome to get a jug of orange juice. You could have a bike rack on the back of the RV with two of these puppies for excursions away from the campsite. Buy a spare or larger battery to take with you and you could ride all day.
Hello, you seem knowledgeable on e-bikes. Would you mind telling me your opinion on the e-bike in reviewed in this video? I sit at a desk all day for work and most of my hobbies so I'd love an e-bike w/o breaking my wallet. Looking forward to taking a foldable one to a couple diff cities and just cruising around. Btw - I see it listed on Amz now for $550 now. Thanks!
@@zerocal76 It looks like an excellent beginner foldable e-bike especially if the price is right. However I didn't see him try to get into the settings to see if the display is unlocked. On my bike, even when I only had a 48v battery just adding an unlocked display added another 3 mph. Adding a 52v battery gave another 3. The one excellent thing about this bike is the 48v system. I can't tell you how much of an advantage that is. First it's going to be more torquey, it will lose less speed as the voltage goes down or sags. Plus you are going to get a lot more range. Just for that reason alone this is a serious contender as you can always add better lights and a horn and all the bicycle crap cheaply to add some of those premium features cheaply. I really wish he went into the settings. Also I'd wager if he pressed the mode button there is at least an amp usage meter. Without looking at the settings of the display myself I can't see on how "tweakable" it is. But on the surface it's an excellent choice. Those smaller wheels mean it's going to climb hills very well. I would have also liked to get a peak at the controller but this review, while good, is not very technical. But you may not care to tweak it or even know what the hell I'm saying so it's fine. If you like the bike and don't care about going past 20mph, which is still fast, then yes buy it.
@@chrissinclair8705 Hellooo there. Thank you for the detailed reply. This is much more info than I could dig up searching for reviews. I appreciate it. I'm sold on the bike but will wait until I'm back from my mini-vaca 😀 I have an idea of what you mean by unlocked display but can you direct me to where I'd try to do that for this model? Is it a mod or a new display? Thanks!
@@zerocal76 No problem. I just lookked up the display model number. But before going "crazy" make sure you are comfortable with the bike. Ask yourself questions "Is this easy to get on or off". "Am I happy with the speed, lower or higher". "Does this carry enough to be comfortable?" "Does this fit my needs?" That's why I recommend either motorcycles or bicycles is not spending too much money at first. Find out which is best suited to you and you're needs. Maybe you want more or less speed, Maybe you want more or less carrying capacity. The choice is yours. Yes, I will help you but the ultimate choice is yours. If you tell me what you want I can give you options but I'm not allowed to choose. That's why I caution people about buying the "Newest" "Hottest" stuff. Find out what you're needs are and work from there.
Hello! Could you explain how to “unluck” the display on this bike and if it would add some speed?
Has anyone heard about the recently released M160 Foldtan? Its 48V 20Ah battery and 750W motor are just off the charts in terms of performance.
KT 22A controller with imitation torque (power) control would fix that.
Is this just a rebranded Lectric XP Lite?
Hmm.. Our bike group consists of pedal non E-Bikes and E-Bikes alike.. They go on 10-15 mile rides .. This bike would be perfect .. They never exceed 15 mph. They do go to meet places and start rides other than our weekly local rides. That bike sure would be easier to stuff in a Chevy Compact than my Ariel Rider Kepler.😂
This looks identical to the lectric xp Lite. Unless I'm missing something, all specs seem the same? I was going to buy the XP Lite but this has me really thinking.
Ones from a Arizona based company the other from a Texas based company.
Can someone please help me I just bought a gotrax 1 I was using it and my back wheel looked on me can’t get it to move
Could I make a 14 mile round trip commute on this thing? 7 miles each way. It would save me a little time, but mainly it would be more fun than the highway.
Yes I get about 30 miles to a charge but I'm light on the throttle. Mostly peddle assist between 3-5,
i got the aostirmotor a20 and its 36v 500w and get about 27 mph
Great Review, It appears to be a knockoff of the Lectric XP Lite. And may well be if they both come from China. It Would make a great RV Camping Bike!
Competition for Lectric lite!
Can you get to top speed without peddling? Would greatly appreciate a response :)
Yes he showed that in the video
wouldn't it be funny if we got another snowstorm before summer officially begins
Can anyone tell me how to fix my brakes from squeaking so loudly? Sometimes i like to ride late at night and it wakes the neighbors.
Replace with different pad material. Or better yet replace the entire calipers with zoom hb100. Did that on my lite and no more squealing, faster braking, and no more readjusting pads as they wear. Best $40 spent. Almost as good as my full hydraulic bikes
Hello , Is the XP Lite a Better bike?
Thanks ☮
no, same exact bike. yours truly, day one lectric lite owner
@@michaelv1984 Right0n Thanks
Really tempted to try buy this for $539 with a coupon code. This looks identical to a Lectric XP Lite, but lacking the overall customer support and backing of Lectric. Is it worth the savings or should I go with the bigger brand? 🤔
what code?
@@MrCowboom CSR457810
At 500 that’s a deal but I love my Xp Lite can’t go wrong with Lectric hope you pick what’s best for you 🫡
@@TheMule93x They might reduced the promo, this only took 5% off so the price is $560
Hello, was wondering if you had another coupon code? Maybe for Amazon? haha I'm buying this soon and that one doesn't work anymore. Thanks if you do 😀
Is this a class 2 or class 1 ebike?
2. class one cant have a trottle
Good job on the 30 lbs loss and good review
Hmmm, kinda looks familiar. I wonder how "Lite" it really is? lol
That’s the xp Lectric lite lol 😅
it is, at a fraction of the cost.
Would go with the Lectric XP Lite for US based support company.
Gotrax is also US based. In Texas. And their customer service is flawless. You have a problem? They give you whatever you need for free...Not sure what else you'd want..
its the same bike being rebranded. Gotrax is as legit as lectric. I own a lite and xpremium, but for the current $539 this bike is a much better deal. Gotrax has a very good reputation in the scooter ebike sphere. I have no doubt they would stand behind their product and they are us based. Guess all of lectrics marketing is paying off for them!
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dude reminds me of ben cowan
What do you know about the government grant Ebay program what do you know about it it's all over facebook
Price? Oh yeah they charge you with shipping so no trax better with letric free shipping 🎉
if anyone wants all of that then go for zectron ebike
Never buy an ebike without gears.
If the motor or battery fails while you're out somewhere, you're screwed!
That is true, now I might not buy this one anymore. Might go with the Sinch
I can ride my lectric lite with no power no problem. Its not a heavy bike
This is just the lectric xp lite with gotrax branding same specs and everything
Do you think the materials are the same to a T in which the bikes are made from? Because i thought about buying the lite , but the motor is 350 and the lite motor is 350 with the lectric Mileage at 40 and trhe F1 Mileage at 25.
Different frame, motor, made by different manufacturers.. not at all the same bike
@@jahbrake9791and batteries, racks, etc not available. Batteries out of stock for awhile. Lectric seems to always have parts and accessories, plus the longer range.
Another folding bike company that does NOT supply anything to keep the bike safe in folding position!!
48V7.8Ah is very pathetic for a bike like that. At least try to make it 48V20Ah for the electric bike.
That's how those companies work man. The average man wouldn't be knowledgeable when it comes to electric bikes so they take advantage of your ignorance and over charge for pathetic specs. It's sad really lol
The Lectric Xp. lite would be my first choice
What is the difference between the Lectra lite and the f1
@@steverobertson932 to be honest the F1 looks like it might have a bigger motor and it has a bell lol the Lectric Xp lite has a 300 motor peaks at 720
the F1 has a 350 motor I’m not sure of the peak power but they both do 20mph so they’re basically are the same might be a good deal.
I would haft to ride the F1 to be fair but I hope you will be riding soon.🤞
@@steverobertson932the major difference between the F1 and XP Lite is the Gotrax has an actual tail/brake light which for me and for most people that love night riding is important..and it's 200 bones less...
Bust waste of money you are going to want more once you ride any e bike this one isn't even good enough for a starter 0:54
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Paid by gotrax!
Honestly, this seems like just...ok. I got an Oraimo monster 100, 100 dollars off. And its a fully sized 26 inch bike with a bafang 350 watt motor. For 600 with the discount. The ugly little ebikes...dont appeal to me.
I've been riding this bike for about a month czcams.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
The Amazon listing shows a peak of 500W🎉
this just got on a deal for 600. 10/10 would recommend. i’m getting this for my birthday in 2 weeks and it looks great!
The f1 is $540 now but no batteries available. No racks, etc, either.