Why isn't Taiwan a Part of China? - The Chinese Civil war
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- Why isn't Taiwan a Part of China? - The Chinese Civil war
The story of China’s communists’ rise to power starts in the early years of the 20th century. In 1912, the state of imperial China as everyone knew it came to an end with the overthrow of the last Qing monarch. The next 4 years saw a would-be emperor, Yuan Shikai, take over for a short reign, but his death would quickly solidify the new era in Chinese history that was to come.
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thank you for the research. However you got the title wrong. Both the PRC and ROC agree that Taiwan is part of China (ROC's capital is still Nanjing). They just don't agree on who is in charge of China. De facto this has led to the PRC controlling a larger part of the realm which both sides consider one and unified.
I cant believe that you 'wights' can be this desperate to keep Taiwan to stay at your order.
The success of chinese government really truly amazing.
Please make a video about Kingdom of Romania under Fascism.
To understanding the history of China after the Qing Dynasty is very difficult, especially when it is filled with misinformation spread by Communist China.
In 1971 the UN decided that the permanent seat on the security council would be taken from the KMT and given to the CCP
the ROC→the PRC
UN is United Nations not United Parties
@@tiro_taiwan that was a HUGE mistake I believe that the real China is the ROC.
and KMT is not in power in Taiwan either, this proves nothing
Wrong, from ROC to PRC.
@@watchman835 doesn't matter huge mistake either way.
China’s resistance to Japan is one of the great untold stories of World War II. Though China was the first Allied power to fight the Axis, it has received far less credit for its role in the Pacific theater than the United States, Britain or even the Soviet Union, which only joined the war in Asia in August 1945. The Chinese contribution was pushed aside soon after the conflict, as an inconvenient story in the neat ideological narrative of the Cold War.
Though far weaker and poorer than the mighty United States or the British Empire, China played a major role in the war. Some 40,000 Chinese soldiers fought in Burma alongside American and British troops in 1944, helping to secure the Stilwell Road linking Lashio to Assam in India. In China itself, they held down some 800,000 Japanese soldiers.
The costs were great. At least 14 million Chinese were killed and some 80 million became refugees over the course of the war.
Quick summery
Japan invaded China in 1937 and brought World War II to the Far East and the pacific theaters. The US waited until 1941 to official send aids to help China after the bombing of the Pearl Harbor that took place in the same year and directly sent troops to China in 1945, a total 9 years after the invasion started.
China had been fighting the war longer than any other country, as well as the difference in the nature of the war for the Chinese from them: for the Chinese, it was a war to liberate their homeland from invading forces who had a larger number of modern weaponries and well-trained troops. The contribution of the Chinese to the pacific theater was immense, and was disproportionate to the recognition it gained at the end of the war.
--Wendi Qiu
感謝你，中國戰場拖住了日本百萬陸軍，讓蘇聯免於被德國跟日本兩面夾擊的狀況，間接讓蘇聯擊敗納粹德國，中國的貢獻是巨大的。
日本侵略东北三省的时间更早，那个时期，一些英勇的东北人民和共产党 领导的一些组织就开始和日本进行战斗。所以，中国人民实际上进行了十二年抗日战争。
现在不一样了，我们必须拿回我们的一切，而且应该报复日本
The reason why the Kuomintang lost in the mainland because Chiang Kai Shek still hasn't remove the "Army Corruption" and "Incompetent Officers" modifiers. If only he didn't spend all of the army experiences to the mass assault doctrine
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
NOT THE HOI4 REFERENCE
Edit : me when dumbasses don't understand a joke and start being political over a game refrence : 🤦
Those who allied with Russia won, and those who were against Russia lost. You see, the Kuomintang did not form an alliance with Russia. He provoked a Sino-Japanese war, which was threatening Russia. Russia did not want to see annexation wars going on in its surrounding areas, because Russia will not sit idly by and ignore the geopolitical changes in East Asia, but Russia is fighting in Europe. At this time, the Kuomintang's China has hurt Russia. He has become the target of Russia's punishment. Therefore, failure is inevitable and he can only go into exile in the island country.
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Nah, according to the cold war mod all he had to do was hold Shanghai long enough for the event that removes the negative modifiers to pop up
When Chiang Kai-shek retreated to Taiwan in 1949, his army had been fighting the Communist army for 20 years. It was difficult to say that it was a problem with the army. At least the Americans in North Korea in 1950 would definitely disagree. The first batch of weapons assistance from the Soviet Union to the Chinese army was in May 1951, so there is no reason why the CCP army is strong because of Soviet weapons.
Bit of an audio glitch at 5:51
It’s just him stuttering I think
@@jois9794 no, it's a double up of the same audio file
@@caynebyron your a double up of yourself, delete one and shutup
Probably didn't stitched the vocal audio track correctly for a transition.
The ROC government relocated to Taiwan in 1949 while fighting a civil war with the Chinese Communist Party. Since then, the ROC has continued to exercise effective jurisdiction over the main island of Taiwan and a number of outlying islands, leaving Taiwan and China each under the rule of a different government.
But also....every party in Taiwan is a separatist party...can't really separate from the Mainland if they're already independent
yeah so technically there are two chinas. there is the PRC in the mainland and the ROC on the island of taiwan (that's also the island name), just like how there are 2 congos, 2 koreas. I like to think of it this way.
@@blackdesertsage9836 i mean ye but those 3 are different examples. 1. both congos liberated themselves by france and belgium, both majority french speaking countries
@@blackdesertsage9836 the koreas both basically diverged from each other. soviets and americans occupied land to the 39th parrelel and installed puppets to control their occupation when they left
@@blackdesertsage9836 the roc "taiwan" isnt a split of the prc. its the opposite. the roc was the legitimate government of the north but the prc is the rebellion which driven them out
The KMT did not establish the Republic of China in Taiwan in 1949, it was already established in 1911!
Mereka kalah dengan Partai Komunis China jadi apa bedanya dengan mendirikan pemerintahan sendiri di Pulau Taiwan karena kalah perang.
@@mp3random536有区别，联合国不承认台湾政权，和南北朝鲜不同
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The difference is that the ROC already existed. It's just that after the PRC took the mainland, Taiwan is basically all the territory they have left.
@@mp3random536 Fool
And when the Republic of China was founded by Chinese ppl, Taiwanese were under Japanese colony😂
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Thanks very much for highlighting an obvious historical fact that has been pushed aside. Tibet never officially seceded from China. The KMT gov maintained an overseer office in Lhasa until around 1948. 😊😊
yeah exactly, the CCP basically just tightened up the control over these western regions that were part of the Qing and KMT gov(with less control). Obviously, not everyone were happy with the move, hence we had people saying stuff like free tibet, xinjiang.
true
Ur the goat❤❤❤ i love ur vids❤
Essentially, it’s a North/South Korea situation but where if North Korea was to control the entire peninsula and South Korea only controlled Jeju island.
不一样 韩国宣布建立国家成独立国家朝鲜才打韩国 只是没有打赢，被逼成立韩国，台湾国民党是中国的前政府败退到台湾 台湾是中国的一个省 他到台湾并没有宣称台湾从大陆分裂出去成立国家 只是前政府到现在还在管控而已。
@@Hhenry-sk7rn yes, that makes their current situation totally different from Korea. Like night & day 🙄
How can you be a successor of something that still exists? What does that even mean?
@@Hhenry-sk7rn Everything you wrote here is irrelevant to your argument. The “coexistence” of the ROC & the “Qing Dynasty” isn’t so much a “coexistence” as it is the former last Qing emperor being the 1st emperor of Manchukuo when Japan carved out Manchukuo out of former ROC territory of the historical lands of Manchuria.
A better example for your argument would be when the Qing conquered the Ming, and the Ming dynasty fled to Formosa/Taiwan. But even then, the Qing eventually conquered the remnants of the Ming in Formosa/Taiwan, which has yet to happen with the ROC in Taiwan.
So your argument that the PRC is the “successor” to the ROC is at the very least premature.
@@clementkong8133 United Nations General Assembly Resolution 2758,passed on 25 October 1971, recognized the People's Republic of China as "the only legitimate representative of China to the United Nations" and removed "the representatives of Chiang Kai-shek" (referring to the Republic of China, whose central government had relocated to Taiwan from the mainland) from the United Nations.
@@JiaTelindadada so I take it that United Nations is everything? What about Palestine? United Nations really wants to recognize Palestine and NOT Israel.
The Republic of China was established in 1911, Mainland China, not Taiwan! Even the current constitution of ROC, which is still in force in Taiwan, was adopted in 1947, in Nanjing, Mainland China.
Yes, and according to the constitution of ROC, mainland is still included in their territory.
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The Chinese civil war has not ended until today! When Taiwan's military was stronger than the mainland, Taiwan's fighter jets often flew to the mainland for reconnaissance and even bombing! At that time, the West remained silent! Now that the mainland's military is stronger than Taiwan, the mainland's fighter jets are only active around Taiwan Island, and the West is shouting! I hope Western netizens who support Taiwan's independence can become the heads of your states and recognize Taiwan!
兄弟，他们不敢的，他们只喜欢嘴上叫唤
When you tell the truth, they stop replying to you.
法理上，并没有结束。双方并没有签署任何关于停战的协议。
所以实际意义上，中国仍处于内战状态。中国的军队也任然叫做解放军。
中国军队仍然叫解放军而不是国防军，这就说明国家还没有统一，只是因为台湾有西方人支持加上在是一个孤岛，中国的海军历史上长时间都比较羸弱，强行登陆伤亡会很大，所以一直没有武统，这也是为什么中国大力发展海军的主要原因，现在中国早已具备武统实力，只是不想撕破脸也不想因为台湾打乱中国崛起进程而已
The history of warlord infighting before Japan invaded was extremely complex
Thank you for this. Such a clear and simple explanation 👍🏼
I actually didnt know there were still comment wars about this thing 😅😂
The post-war international arrangement of the Second World War was the return of the island of Taiwan from Japanese colonization to China. This was written in the Potsdam Proclamation and the Cairo Declaration. Are those who believe that Taiwan is not part of China going to deny and overturn the outcome of the Second World War?
You just perfectly explained why Taiwan is part of China lol
But not PRC😉
7:19 it looks like there was a giant river or lava flow near the ancient chinese capital of xian on this map and it looks like maybe luoyang may have been a coastal city at one point by the way this map appears?
This is very informative in deed
胡说八道这个视频。😅
Propaganda machine that fit your taste😂
My grandparrents from Nanjing get PTSD from just looking at your profile picture
@@junmiamorecadenenzafu3694 I will plan next visit to Nanchang later hehe
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12:40 The flag of PRC was censored like the swastika flag, so it was replaced with the soviet one instead.
That's not actually the Soviet flag but is the Chinese Communist Party flag. There is a gold star above the hammer and sickle on the Soviet flag that is missing from the CCP flag.
Taiwan is part of China. The question is how you define "China." "China" can mean either the PRC regime or a much broader geographical, historical, and civilizational concept of the Chinese Nation. 180 UN member countries in the world currently acknowledge the PRC as the sole sovereign regime over all of China including Taiwan. So legally speaking, Taiwan is a de jure part of China. De facto, the PRC has no control over Taiwan's internal administration, so it is not a de facto part of the PRC.
So in short, Taiwan is part of China. Taiwan is PRC's de jure territory, acknowledged by most states and all major states in the world. Taiwan is de facto not under PRC governance. Very simple actually. A lot of people got confused, because they do not know why "China" is different from "PRC."
The "One China Policy" is deliberately vague in this way
The people of Taiwan and Tibet disagrees.
@@Gbrowxso what? They are the losing side. If Taiwan aka ROC holds half or most of the mainland you think they will drop the claim as China? I don't think so.
@@Gbrowx印第安人民和被美国强行占领整个西部地区的墨西哥人民也不同意
Im glad you are talking about recent events.
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As well as you. And everyone who watches . So me too
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What means?
@@paoloschinocca1242 it probably means the CCP is going to try to harvest your organs if they can
Awww man 😢
Good opening
slight editing mistake at 5:50
2:33 so if there was still that older government in yellow that wasn't beaten quite yet by the kmt bc it split in 1928, 2 factions of the kmt, and then the ccp which cut ties with both, that means 4 major players, and many warlords still...its a miracle china ever became a united country again, especially since it seems at that time the ccp and left kmt and right kmt were basically warlord factions themselves
I wonder why Dr Sun Yat-sen isn't mentioned when you talk about 1912? Why is there nothing about the Nanking massacre in 1937? Why is there nothing about 1958 Mao/Eisenhower invasion of Taiwan?
To summarize this ,an unfinished civil war
My favourite dynasties of all time are The Ming, The Traditional Version of The Qing Dynasty aka The Qing Dynasty and The Modern Version of The Qing Dynasty aka The Republic of China 🇹🇼. And I am a Malaysian Chinese who was born on 8th December 1997 in Brunei 🇧🇳. I am a Pentecostal and Charismatic Christian
Interesting
I would rather work with person from the island then from main land ,
PLEASE make a video about migration from Mexico to USA and why it started
What happened at 5:50?
I think people seem to be very confused about the cultural identity of Taiwan. Let's be honest? The majority of the people living in the island of Taiwan are mostly Han Chinese. There is a reason why they are using Chinese characters for writing, speaking a Chinese dialect, even their own flag came from China since 1917 CE, it is also called the ROC which stands for the Republic of China, and etc. Being an independent nation is one thing but calming to be different people/culture from China is just dead wrong. No hate it's just simple facts the people living on the island of are still mostly Han Chinese.
Yes but what does that have to do with whether Taiwan should be an independent country or not? Germany and Austria both are mostly ethnic Germans and yet are two countries. Canada and the US both use English and yet are two countries.
@@TheECSH It has everything to do with it. The people won't too be unified again under 1 China. It's only the 2 governments and the ones loyal to each party that are preventing it. Since both governments still see themselves as mostly enemies. It's like India and what is now called Pakistan including Bangladesh and Kashmir. If it wasn't Religion India would be much more bigger.
If you're not very familiar with Taiwan? You should know it still calls itself the ROC which stands for the Republic of China. Again? The people want reunification it's a matter of the 2 different government ideology preventing it.
@@TheECSH Your not very bright or smart! In Austria's case? After WW 2 ended the Allies wanted to make sure Germany doesn't become powerful again. So it was the Allies who wanted Austria not to be part of Germany.
Canada and USA are the same. The main difference is USA Rebelled against it's Colonial master Canada didn't and stayed with it.
Germany and Austria are the same people. But? They both lack the cultural identity. Same with USA and Canada they are the same people. But? They both lack the cultural identity and one only rebilled against their colonial master.
台灣人與中國人也同樣缺乏文化認同，國民黨獨裁被台灣人推翻後，台灣人已經習慣了民主自由和普世價值，而中國人還在推崇馬列共產文化，還在崇拜獨裁的偉大領袖。我覺得新加坡都比台灣更像中國一些，可以應該先考慮統一新加坡
@@Clee-os6pv Pakistan india nuclear war station and China helped pakistan like in northkorea against southkorea.
5:50
@5:51 why didn't you edit this out?
Yea I noticed that too, his thumbnail is also misspelled
That is definitely one awful typo on the thumbnail 😒
The ROC was founded in 1911 after the revolution that over thrown the Qing dynasty, not after KMT lost the civil war
Thanks
看老外讲中国历史也挺好玩的🤣
I am sincerely interested in Chinese history and am trying to learn to read and speak Mandarin so I can visit. Can you recommend some Chinese history channels by Chinese presenters? I would need English subtitles because I am not at all proficient in Mandarin. Thank you.
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The history of China and Taiwan has strong politicality, only recommended you to read the English channel@@cw4608
6:24
Hey there quick question
As far as i know mao Zedong didnt take over CCP leadership until the end of the march
Please correct me if iam wrong
It’s true he didn’t hold a prominent leadership position until after the long march. But he was basically the military leader in charge of the long march and because of his guerrilla style of fighting was more successful compared to other leader’s conventional doctrine. So he gained a lot of popularity that way.
Mao took leadership in the middle of march, specifically at Zhunyi conference.since then on one able to challenge his leadership in ccp
You are right!
Well the official name is still Republic of China, ROC, so there are two Chinas now
Taiwan is the real China.
That’s why we got One-China-Policy, which means the “Taiwan China” is not China. So Taiwan is not a part of China, Taiwan is a unrecognized China.
there is NO now. it has been like that ever since
@@Ju-pc3rx lol. wth r u smoking? from the word itself "one China". dude, stop desperately trying to justify things. it'll only make u miserable
@@Ju-pc3rx There is no country named Taiwan on this earth. The government elected by the Taiwanese is the Republic of China, which was found in the year 1912 and had ruled the whole China until 1949, as the People's Republic of China was found.
The current constitution of the Republic of China on the island Taiwan was legislated in 1947, as the Republic of China ruled the whole China yet, which still claims the whole China as its territory today, the all Chinese as its citizen.
english.president.gov.tw/page/93
That is the reason why there is the "One-China" police all over world. That means only one government can be the only one legal government of China, either the Republic of China on the island Taiwan or the People's Republic of China in the continent China.
The Taiwan issue is the domestic issue of China, like the Hawaii of the USA, Catalonia of Spain and Bavaria of Germany.
Hence Taiwan is part of China, the Taiwanese are Chinese, until a referendum will be hold to make a new nation with its own constitution like "the United States of Taiwan" or "the united kingdom of great Taiwan".
If these weren't the facts and truth, please pointe it out with evidence.
11:42 Truman changed his mind and started to protect Taiwan island after the break of Korean war. That's why PRC can't conquer Taiwan island till now.
你想多了，中国大陆已经具备武统台湾的实力，只是不想因为台湾打断中国和平崛起的进程而已，等到中国大幅度超越美国的时候，中国大陆会解决台湾问题的
Despite all the times the CCP has attempted to invade Taiwan. What not many people talk about was how the Republic of China also made several attempts to invade and retake their former territories from their base in Taiwan. However, in 1965, the ROC and PLA had two naval engagements. Despite boasting a superior navy, the ROC navy couldn't overcome the PLA navy. And since any large scale invasion requires control of the sea, there was just no feasible way for the Nationalists to mount a successful invasion. Also, even during the troubled times of the Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution. There wasn't really any popular support for Chiang Kai Shek or the Nationalist cause. And since the remnants of Chiang's forces had already been weakened by years of fighting the Japanese during WWII. There was really no realistic way for him to reunite China under the ROC. They lacked military power, didn't have the hearts and minds of the mainland populace, and even the US wasn't interested in backing their plans for conquest.
Chiang is a stooge and sleeping partner of the US!!!
A small naval skirmish was an attempt to reconquer mainland China? Taiwan was planning to retake all of mainland China with 1 ship?
In theory, Taiwan still maintains its territorial claims to China (including the South China Sea, Tibet, and Xinjiang)
@@zl4384also Mongolia. Not inner Mongolia, but tge entire Mongolia itself
@@zl4384 And Mongolia which they call Outer Mongolia
In conclusion, Taiwan island is a mix of Chinese, Japanese, and Austronesian.
And now ruled by ROC government.
well that was an anti climatic ending to the video, lol
You educated me about China history in English. I learnt so much more. I'm ashamed as a Chinese 😅
Then u need an unbiased teacher. Don't be brainwashed by him. Check the book and historical papers. He artificially lied that ROC established in1949 to make you think Taiwan had nothing to do with China in history.
@@sdssdsaia9041 don't worry, I'm of Chinese ethnicity but not from china. I'll assess the facts objectively to make judgement without biasness (:
12:29 / 13:07
9:05 was the game-changer for the CCP, they positioned themselves right beside the USSR/Russia so they can get Communist war supplies to continue their next Act.
Brilliant plan! I wonder if that was the plan the whole time and why they did the Long March? ;)
The Long March was because the Nationalist Government attacked the CCP many times. They were almost wiped out and then escaped. Escape is called the Long March to evade pursuit.
Later, Japan attacked the Nationalist Government and the pursuit stopped.
It was called the Long March, but it was actually an escape from the Nationalist government.
The Long March went to Yan'an because that was the base of another Communist force, and they wanted to concentrate all their forces against the Kuomintang.
your pronunciations are upsetting c.Cee. p?
0:09宣统皇帝当时好像是6岁，你应该用他幼儿时的照片
Good video.
It is rare to have objective videos.
So basicly the nationalists took over while the communists were weak. Circled them but failed to notice that they fled.
Then they started their capture plan again just to be interrupted by Japan. By being stubborn in taking action against the communists instead of the external threat they lost internal support (again). After Japan lost the Soviet Union supported the Chinese communists and with the support of the main population too, the nationalists lost and fled to Taiwan.
And somehow the communists failed to take Taiwan to this day (at first without the protection of the US and now because of it). Man, Chinese history is really something else...
I am Chinese, and I can provide you with some history as to why the Communist Party did not take over Taiwan. In October 1949, the Communist army attacked Kinmen Island, which was only 5 kilometers away from the mainland. As a result, more than 9,000 troops were lost, and only 180 square kilometers of it was not captured. In January 1950, the Truman administration declared not to interfere in the Chinese Civil War. At the same time, Mao Zedong visited the Soviet Union, seeking to purchase warships from the Soviet Union and establish a navy. In June 1950, the Korean War broke out. The United States sent troops to North Korea and stationed the Seventh Fleet in Taiwan until its withdrawal in 1979. In September 1950, about 500,000 troops attacking Taiwan began to temporarily suspend military operations, and the Chinese army began to send troops to North Korea. In our eyes, the United States is the only obstacle to the territorial division of China, and we always remember this. So whenever Americans speak on the Taiwan issue, please understand if the Chinese express anger.
Your Correction is wrong, Tibet did not "remain" a "sovereign state" after Qing Collapse, here's the correction: Qing Dynasty did not "Collapse", it was negotiated to end Imperial Rule, and the Emperor transfered, as stated in the Royal Edict, that "Qing Dynasty would transfer the land of Han, Hui, Mongol, Tibetan and Manchurian to form a new Republic of China", the Emperor was allowed to stay in the Forbidden City and the expenses of the Royal family will be subsidized by the Government of Republic of China, and thus Tibet was not a sovereign state after Qing "Collapse", it was part of China since Qing established direct control from the 18th century
地图错得离谱，怕不是KR玩多了导致的
江西的苏区是怎么给你画到福建去的
外网正常
Of those 10,000 communists that survived the long march North, one of them was Xi Jingping's father, Xi Zhongxun. His father eventually fell out of good graces with Mao, but Xi Jingping was calculated and slowly built his political framework back and became premier. Objectively speaking, his rise is very noteworthy.
he was selected because he was hardworking in his appointments to poor provinces, and that he wasn't apart of any faction so he was considered neutral by all factions in the party. His a pawn that became the king.
@@lolasdm6959 That was a deliberate tactic. He purposefully played the neutral, hardworking outsider to climb the ladder.
@@saladmcjones7798 He didn't have to play what he already was. What no one realized was his ambition.
Xi’s father didn’t participate in the long March north. Because he has always been in the North.
at 7:40, correction: not "international community" but its the western colonial powers
This is an excellent video that shows a fraction of the complication of history.
at the end of the video, the content creator says china civil war not yet ended today. civil war is a war within a country. ROC in taiwan, the consition law states china territory includes mainland and taiwan. Note that if any changes of consition law, it needs all citizen involved and pass to be legitimate (i.e mainland citizens required to be included). therefore this video concludes taiwen is part of china.
btw, govt and country is different concept. china is a country, ROC/PRC is a govt...
For clarity: Ming / Qing dynasties rule taiwen. After china defeated inveder japan, taiwen returned to china and civil war broke out.
11.00 Why tibet is show as part of CCP when it was invaded 10 years later?
Tibet is part of China since 400 years ago，stfu
This is a misleading vedio without signifying the fact that 1) Taiwan was returned to RO China (Jiang Jieshi Administration)after defeating the Japanese invaders in the 2nd world war; 2) Before 1949, ROC was still the only government of China with Nanjing as the capital, governing the returned Taiwan province; 3) After 1949, ROC was driven out of the mainland China, running away to the only one province Taiwan which functioned as the temporary central government instead of the so-called ridiculous diction “the establishment of ROC.” Obviously you just said what you want but not explained what is true. In a nutshell, China civil war still has no end and it will break out anytime. Invading is damning bullshit and a total lie to the world.
Can you do Cambodian next pray 🙏
讲的很好
Chiang Kai-shek's Nanjing regime declared that it had unified China. In fact, we all know that the local warlords only obeyed superficially. During his reign, he was committed to weakening local military power and maintaining central military power. He ordered the local army to encircle and suppress the weak CCP. In my opinion, it was also an excuse and means to consume the power of the warlords and win the support of the capital behind them. So I think it’s totally fine for the CCP to declare nominal reunification now.
Han Chinese still dominate and call the shots and orders overall in both of those countries as well as Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, And many parts of South East Asians there is a sense of Han Chinese privilege even over Non Han East Asiatic neibors and near buyers yeah.
The thumbnail asks why China became communist. I didn't see that answered here.
You probably should have mentioned the Russian/USSR influences from the very beginning.
While we in Taiwan appreciate your explanation and support, this narrative isn't quite accurate. Before the KMT lost China and fled to Taiwan, there were already people living here, those who lived here for generations prior to the end of WWII. The notion that "both Mainland and Taiwan belong to one China, just temporarily divided", is what both the KMT and the CCP would like you to think, but in reality, Taiwan is Taiwan, China is China. We Taiwanese don't want to be the "real" China, we just want to be Taiwan. Let China be China. We hope China can be a democratic country with rule of law, but even than, we would still only be friendly neighbors, not part of the same country.
Yes, darn right! This video is historically inaccurate and misleading…!!!
" We Taiwanese"
Are you even a real indigenous person? No hate intended but the majority of Taiwan's people are mostly Han Chinese even in the government are mostly Han Chinese.
There is a reason why they are using Chinese characters for writing, speaking a Chinese dialect, even their own flag came from China since 1917 CE, it's true name is called the ROC which stands for the Republic of China, and etc. Again I am not trying to hate it's just simple facts the people living on the island of Taiwan are mostly Han Chinese.
@@dshhung Not really? And? Here is the problem! The majority of the people living in the island of Taiwan are mostly Han Chinese. None of the real indigenous people are in charge and has no say in the government in the island of Taiwan. Even the former leader and current one now are both Han Chinese not an indigenous person. Even for daily life there are mostly using Chinese characters for writing, speaking a Chinese dialect, and still share many culture and traditions from China.
I think and do support the island of Taiwan being self governed. But? Them claiming to be a different people and culture is not something I will agree with them on. In the end the people are mostly Chinese with a Chinese dialect, using Chinese characters for writing in everyday daily use, eating many Chinese food and dishes that also is eating in mainland China, the real name is ROC the Republic of China and etc. Even their flag they are using today originated in mainland China and it was them who agreed to the 1 China policy with China.
Is it only me or the USSR flag is used instead of CCP's or I misunderstood the context?
Chinese Communist Party flag. The Soviet flag has a star above the hammer and sickle.
Obligatory comment addressing the video title, that Taiwan technically is part of China through the Republic of China, and no country in the world recognizes Taiwan as separate from China.
China built houses in Taiwan in 1171, reclaimed farmland, garrison taxes, established the official administration in 1335, set up the Taiwan government in 1683, under the jurisdiction of Fujian Province, almost all of the people in Taiwan Province migrated from Fujian province, the two places speak the same accent dialect, Taiwan Province is 98 percent Han
Taiwan never said they weren’t Chinese. They are china is what they say
Just know that most Taiwanese people commonly hate Chaing because not only did he not reflect on his defeat and fix his issues, but he basically enforced the same governing style in Taiwan as the one that failed him in China. And there's also the fact that the KMT soldiers and government in general look down on the local Taiwanese and see them as "Japanese colonial slaves". They have fewer opportunities for high-end jobs like lecturing, doctoring, and governing. And Chaing subsequently mass murdered a ton of people in the name of anti-espionage during the White Terror period. (Go watch gameplay of Detention to know more)
When Taiwan was still under authoritarian KMT rule, bronze statues of Chaing were set up everywhere around the country, but nowadays people see them as an eyesore, so much so that there is one park in Taipei that is packed full of Chaing statues because people don't want them and this is the only place that is willing to adopt the statues.
大多數人討厭蔡英文? 同時民進黨繼續連任成功
@@azh3370 40%不叫大多数，多读读书
40%的人统治60%的人，这叫“民主”@@azh3370
@@user-gq4fy6fh7z 肯定是要跟中共的100%一樣才叫多數
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This is the wrong question, your title and premise frames the issue very incorrectly
제2차 국공내전에서 하얼빈 공세에 미국이 중재하지 않았다면 국민당이 우승 했을지 모른다.
Did you do your research or were you just copying abd pasting from Western propaganda sources. I mean yes, in general, it is kind of chronologically correct but hooo boy the tone, what you left out, and what you included, might as well be a class act in propaganda speech! 😅
Communism is against Feudalism and Totalirianism or Authorianism...Not with Jistice and Democratic Primciples...It was only circumstances that prolomged the process of tramsforming and adapting to Democrstic primciples..Of geopoltics could be s strong factor too...This is the problem of Continental Nations...sharing common boundaries and implied intervention should stand in the way...
2 China’s, 1 Cup.
The relation of both China here is unique I think, they are the same as Ukraine and Russia or North and South Korea. The people there are actually connected, they are influencing each other as both is dominated by Han Chinese. The situation more complex than most people think, there are still ppl on both side who wants reunification as they cannot decide who will govern the united china. China have been really aggressive to unification because china gave taiwan special treatment in trade and visa free as compatriot from taiwan
Ukraine and Russia recognise each other as 2 different country. North and South Korea both claim themselves to be the the Korea despite both control evenly half of the country, still aim to reunified. But for China, there is a obvious Strong and weak of power, which make ROC new generations no longer interested to reclaim the whole China, making PRC looks like the bully in this case.
@@marcotanke417 true, i am Taiwanese, and when I was a student, I used to believe we are the free China, then ccp start to claim they are the only China and makes this word somehow very shameful through their actions all around the world while stopping other countries to see us as the other China, so many of us don't want to be recognized as Chinese now. Also Ccp killed the original Chinese words and replace their own new invention, and they don't have democratic elections and rule of law at all, which most of us couldn't relate and would hope they just leave us alone.
Also, there are a whole generation was raised under imperial japan that cannot accept Roc as they were not treated just during the cold war, they tend to establish a new country of Taiwan.(they most percentages of population that are raised under omperial japan, but only few want to take the risk to actually establish a new country in fear of CCp's anger)
讲的很不错哦
The title is confusing and seems completely opposite of the content. if they are still in civil war, then both sides belong to one country - both mainland and Taiwan still parts of China. Canada and US can’t fight a civil war because they are two countries.
It's pretty clear we're you learn of it that when you see the title of this episode, you can't help but say DUH as I am. Jeez
one thing about this vid , mao didnt seize the leadership in the year of 1934 but 1935
This is why it should be ambiguous and not outright independent. Because whatever anyone says, both sides claim to be China. Just one is the republic and the other the people’s republic.
There goes your social credit score, again
I have a question , why isn't suol apart of nocor? Pareho lang silang mga coreano pareho lang tayong mga tao isang lahi ng mga tupa isang sembolo ng bawat tingala nyo sa langit pag sapit ng kadiliman mga bituin ngayon magsiparami kayo.
11:20 from what i was taught growing up the nationalists denied us help and congress even during world war two wouldnt really let the us truly help china beyond some air squadrons and limited assistance..
i often wonder how different the world would have become if the us would have been able to help russia in 1917-1918 and help china after world war 2...i mean we rebuilt japan and germany, why not china as well..china was our ally while japan and germany had been enemies. russia was our ally in both world wars.
how different and possibly more peaceful would things be without communism and communism aggression and people in the us being paranoid of communism and going too heavily into south east asia and africa and south american trying to prevent its spread or something but really just giving the world more arms and more wars.
The main reason behind Maos large support in rural areas mainly central China was oppressive policies of Quomintang against farmers and faliure of protection against japanese in WW2.so then He gain more support after 1943 and became unstoppable Socialist state in history more successful one party state than USSR.
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Not only that Mao and his Communist party also launched a Smear campaign against the Nationalist KMT. Like Japan and their war crimes against China and the big one Nanjing Massacre of 1937. Thanks to Japan and the Nanjing Massacre of 1937 the people and lots of the military armed forces joined the Communist party. Since they were also true too it damage the reputation of the Nationalist KMT for good in China.
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"The nationalists were finally. The nationalists were finally." What?
Taiwan not being a part of China would boil down to political and social factors.
In the Joint Communique on the Establishment of Diplomatic Relations on January 1, 1979, issued by the Government of the United States of America and the People’s Republic of China, the United States of America recognized the Government of the People’s Republic of China as the sole legal Government of China, and it acknowledged the Chinese position that there is but one China and Taiwan is part of China. Within that context, the two sides agreed that the people of the United States would continue to maintain cultural, commercial, and other unofficial relations with the people of Taiwan. On this basis, relations between the United States and China were normalized.
U.S.-PRC JOINT COMMUNIQUE (1982)
ridiculous. First, Tibet has been part of china for about 800 years, which was longer than US’s annexation of Texas. Your words are shameless. Glaring double standard. Second , there is no china’s invasion against Taiwan. In essence,mainland’ s unification with Taiwan is the same as Abraham Lincoln’s efforts to unify southern states.
Nice try. Taiwan is still part of China. It is in Taiwan's constitution that it is part of China.
The PLA did try twice in 1954 and 1958 to invade Taiwan but both ended in disaster. Maybe third time's the charm? In any case, back in 1971, many countries were happy to have 2 Chinas, 1 communist and the other nationalist, but Chiang refused. Too late now.
Chiang believe he's a Chinese ❤
1 country 2 different factions. ROC claims all of mainland China, and PRC claims Taiwan. Thats why it is called a Civil War. Yet now Taiwan and mainland China are pretty much separate Nations with same language, culture etc. Just a difference in governance. Hong Kong would easily fit into the Taiwan way of doinv things, not CCP way. The trading between mainland and Taiwan would be huge despite political differences.
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So basically China entered a warlord period yet again in the 1920s? I’ve always wondered how Japan could have gained so much territory in China and southeast east Asia when it’s a tiny weak country and China is huge and powerful, makes more sense if China had imperials nationalists warlords communists fighting each other and the nationalists apparently couldn’t hold their own faction together much less the country
Japan has been assisted by NATO for hundreds of years. It is very simple to defeat China. The Qing Dynasty only used 100,000 people to fight a battle and conquered a much larger China. The generational difference in technological weapons cannot be made up by the number of people and area. A small, high-tech army with backup can conquer the entire continent. Eurasia, Africa, and the Americas only require tens of thousands of people. As long as the technology is advanced enough, it is very simple to conquer.
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@@user-mm7zi4ue7d uhm I don't think Nato existed yet, unless you simply mean the countries that now make up NATO
simple answer will be progress of industrialization which lead to economic and military advantages.
At that time, Japan was an industrial country, while China was an agricultural country.
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