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Komentáře • 844

  • @vipercoilz
    @vipercoilz Před rokem +301

    "Don't tell me you're Robin Hood when you're just robbin' the hood"
    Asmongold circa 2023

  • @Malkav
    @Malkav Před rokem +667

    With asmon's sass and Charlie's hair combined, the ultimate hero PenguinGold shall be born.

  • @FutayuriShironeko
    @FutayuriShironeko Před rokem +129

    Fextralife has such an amazing stream it has 23k viewers 2 hr after going offline.

  • @Soul-Burn
    @Soul-Burn Před rokem +22

    According to twitchtracker, they have 27k average viewers, but only 800 active subs.
    Much smaller channels (sub 500 viewers) have usually have around that amount of subs.
    So pretty it's obvious these people aren't actually watching the stream.

  • @Ore839
    @Ore839 Před rokem +163

    The most incredible part is that everyone knows that the best way to get viewers is to be at the top of a category yet despite being the number 1 in almost every category they stream to for years, not a single person liked his personality enough to ever stick around and make a real community.

    • @imraw17
      @imraw17 Před rokem +7

      People like Yuria nobody watches Tyr or Cas

    • @Iantwi_dg
      @Iantwi_dg Před rokem +15

      @@imraw17 simps like yuria

    • @PopcornMax179
      @PopcornMax179 Před 11 měsíci +6

      Yeah, buy they didn't care for providing quality content or growing a good community. That requires effort. They just wanted to scam sponsorships.

  • @Wighafoc
    @Wighafoc Před rokem +13

    I remember looking for a rare drop armor in Elden Ring, and ofc fextra was the first thing that came up. I clicked on it, and it was literally one sentence just saying that it was a rare item.

  • @SithisLich
    @SithisLich Před rokem +221

    If you told me Charlie and Zack where brothers i'd believe that.

    • @travisahhs11
      @travisahhs11 Před rokem +16

      Both are very clearly intelligent people, if they were to form a team they could have a phenomenal channel.

    • @jackabsolute5525
      @jackabsolute5525 Před rokem +10

      Yeah. They seem to be literally borrowing each otners wardrobe.

    • @AstonMartinStig
      @AstonMartinStig Před 11 měsíci +3

      ​@JayGC My brother has a full head of hair, I do not. Too bad we can't quick save and reload to roll again in real life.

    • @johangou
      @johangou Před 11 měsíci +1

      but the second brother is just silly sometimes yet the first brother is completely dumb

  • @kurtru5selcrowe607
    @kurtru5selcrowe607 Před rokem +79

    This hurts all streamers big and small. If advertisers don’t trust the process then they’ll take their business else where.

    • @odotawaissaku3755
      @odotawaissaku3755 Před rokem +5

      But who's to say advertisers don't trust the process? That's just a big assumption that we know nothing about

    • @darkness45678
      @darkness45678 Před 11 měsíci

      @@odotawaissaku3755 And than there are statistics in all businesses that give proof that ads work with streamers and to see if its genuine. It's not a big assumption at all, it's if anyone wants to know

    • @omaryassien7130
      @omaryassien7130 Před 11 měsíci

      @@odotawaissaku3755 if advertisers find out that they are baiscally sending ads and paying twitch money for people who are not even looking at the stream (embedding) then i think that would start to make them doubt the process and look deeper and who knows what theyll find

    • @youroshiyoshi8385
      @youroshiyoshi8385 Před 11 měsíci

      Fextralife says that their sponsors know about the embeddings. Sponsors would know, and they would very quickly lose sponsorship opportunities and could face legal repercussions if that wasn’t the case.

    • @omaryassien7130
      @omaryassien7130 Před 11 měsíci

      @@youroshiyoshi8385 im confused do you mean sponsors for the channel itself or advertisers for twitch? because im not sure but i think advertisers dont know which ads go to which channels

  • @Chalkstix
    @Chalkstix Před rokem +129

    Twitch should probably remove the embed feature, or at least change it so it doesn't affect viewer count. They won't. But they should.

    • @m.j.e.5245
      @m.j.e.5245 Před rokem +2

      Whats more insulting than the embeds are them copying eachothers content and not having any good faith takes to come to a reasonable conclusion. Lazy content from both

    • @directrulefromgamerchair3947
      @directrulefromgamerchair3947 Před rokem +2

      Why would they do this? More viewers = more ad income

    • @clashwithkeen
      @clashwithkeen Před rokem

      @@m.j.e.5245 guys I found the shill

    • @rastagaming9000
      @rastagaming9000 Před rokem

      That might be a solution, but knowing the internet business, it's very hard to get traffic for your Twitch channel just being there. Competition is too high. It great feature for people who target keywords and get a ranking on Google, then can lead them to Twitch. This might be the only chance for some people ever get traffic. Business is tough.

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 Před rokem +2

      the only people it affects are the streamers competing with the top spot it doesn't affect the vast majority of streamers. And its frankly the same as people hosting another stream imo, no one can "abuse" it without effectively having admin access to a large wikia-like site. The only people who should have a say about it is twitch since it affects them directly and they've already ruled on it.

  • @zarahandrahilde9554
    @zarahandrahilde9554 Před rokem +155

    Always fun to see the goblin duo yammer about the same thing💜

  • @flux_casey
    @flux_casey Před rokem +50

    Gonna say... I've stumbled onto the Fextralife wikis from time to time. I had *no idea* the guy running it was a streamer. I didn't know that was a thing at all. But apparently I've secretly been a fan of them for years! Such a secret even I didn't know about it! Wow!

    • @gryn-main
      @gryn-main Před rokem +2

      if you're using adblock then no you have not been a fan for that streamer.

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 Před rokem

      @@IAmAzarath its a "problem" only to the top 0.0001% of streamers who frankly are rich enough as it is. Twitch has ruled on it and says they aren't removing a feature because a wikia site with millions of views might emb a twitch link on it.

    • @tequilawhiskey
      @tequilawhiskey Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@EddiXPyeah im not getting the hate for the site. Ive used them for years without much problem.
      Its certsinly better than fandom which makes my phone try to kill itself.

  • @atrocious7766
    @atrocious7766 Před rokem +12

    You won't catch Charlie talking about Opera GX doing the same thing though because they're his sponsors.

    • @Valaghlyn
      @Valaghlyn Před rokem +1

      You legit got me curious, what does Opera GX do that is "the same thing"? I'm using Opera GX and I've never seen embedded stream anywhere. I've just scrolled through the homepage, which I usually don't; I have new game release, upcoming game release, browser games, games recommendation, youtube creator recommendation (I'd guess people they sponsor), Asus product recommendation, stores like steam and humblebundle and then news. I've seen they recently(?) got an Opera GX personified vtuber(or ai? not sure) stream, but it isn't on the homepage, it was small window at the corner asking me if I'd be interested in watching the stream. Also the homepage is fully customizable to remove what you don't want on it... 🤔

    • @Robotlien
      @Robotlien Před rokem +2

      @@Valaghlyn They did this once with their new VTuber that was debuting once and the viewer count reached up to 75k or something like that, a majority of those viewers were embedded through their browser upon just opening Opera GX.
      This was talked about quite a bit a little while ago, like maybe a week ago.

    • @Valaghlyn
      @Valaghlyn Před rokem

      @@Robotlien I see 🤔Guess I didn't pay attention to the homepage enough to see it embedded somewhere when it did happen

    • @atrocious7766
      @atrocious7766 Před rokem +1

      @@Robotlien Honestly, it wouldn't have been so bad if they had not bragged as if those were legitimate viewers. It speaks volumes about how effective embedding manipulates viewer count to see Aura averaging 2k viewers per stream as opposed to the 75k on debut.

    • @Robotlien
      @Robotlien Před rokem

      @@atrocious7766 Yeah, but people would be talking about it regardless as we can't see what viewers are embedded or from twitch itself, I get your point tho, there wouldn't have been so much talk about it if they hadn't bragged about it for sure.

  • @BraveFrontierRemeberer
    @BraveFrontierRemeberer Před 11 měsíci +1

    One thing that always annoys me is when you see a video link for a video and it leads you to a random part of there old streams and it pisses me off to no end because it doesn’t even show me what I wanted to find

  • @kuroazrael2069
    @kuroazrael2069 Před rokem +8

    People don't understand, streamers care because next time they negotiate a sponsor they can say "how do we know you are not embedding, we are going to pay you less" this is not about morals, this affects their wallets directly and most streamers cannot or don't use the same method

  • @JKAsHiddenLotus
    @JKAsHiddenLotus Před rokem +7

    Fextralife is actually so good for Divinity original sin i do not watch anything else for that game, but i think the quality of some builds for other games are very lite

  • @djtoxxikk
    @djtoxxikk Před rokem +4

    I don't really watch twitch that often, but when I do it's usually for drops that a game I'm playing has or I'm supporting a friend. For the drops, most of the time I try to go out of my way to sort by lowest viewers to help out smaller creators

  • @EricOneHive
    @EricOneHive Před rokem

    It gets even worse with their mobile site, on that they put the embed all the way at the very bottom where no one is ever scrolling to

  • @HandsomeKing808
    @HandsomeKing808 Před rokem +36

    I’m just surprised how fast you beat AC6 with your Mech Tank!

  • @GSUShane
    @GSUShane Před 11 měsíci +1

    Comic Con does fudge its numbers, though. If you have a multi-day ticket, then it counts you as a unique attendee for each day you attend. So, if you have a 5-day ticket, then you're counted as 5 attendees.

  • @syntheticEEV
    @syntheticEEV Před rokem +6

    You can also have bots on a server open hundreds of tabs on their website, and each tab is a viewer. Their main source of viewers aren't even organic. That's the truly insidious part of this. ITs very hard for twitch to catch this kind of viewbotting, as it doesnt happen on their website.

  • @dragonzlucas
    @dragonzlucas Před rokem +2

    Also doesn't help that their name is very close to a well known charity "Extralife". People that see a stream with that high numbers might be duped into thinking its a charity stream. That might be a stretch but its possible.

  • @EleazarJL
    @EleazarJL Před rokem +30

    His name relates so much, F - extralife

  • @AndrewTheFrank
    @AndrewTheFrank Před rokem +13

    I wonder if Twitch could be sued for tortious interference. The advertiser and streamer are in a contract but twitch allows for the embedding which allows for false and fake numbers thus allowing the advertiser to get into a misleading contract. Twitch allowing embedding is in a sense interfering with the contract. However, it would probably be easier to go after Fextralife for some kind of fraud claim against the advertiser. Something like defrauding them by however many thousands of dollars advertisers have payed them.

  • @heyiceman
    @heyiceman Před rokem +20

    I’d like to see an interview with one or more of their advertisers

  • @akindel6590
    @akindel6590 Před rokem +7

    What is wild is this issue is something that harms advertisers the most, but only honest streamers will care about.

    • @razerscale3590
      @razerscale3590 Před rokem +1

      It also hurts the viewer if advertisers stop paying as much for ad deals and streamers have to implement more ads to make the same amount of money

    • @kavinh10
      @kavinh10 Před rokem

      "honest streamers" you are joking right most of the people on the front page would sell their audience defective products and cryptoscams in a heartbeat for the right price.
      audience don't care ya it runs in your browser it uses next to no bandwidth and you're using a wikia site to begin with. the only ones complaining are the millionaire streamers who are mad they have competition so they want to start up drama using their fanbases

    • @razerscale3590
      @razerscale3590 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @kavinh10 imagine calling fake viewers competition. Imagine having a website and just deciding you want everyone who visits your website to be counted as a twitch viewer. So now you don't have to be a good streamer to have a lot of viewers. You just have to have a lot of people visiting your website. Imagine if other companies with much much more popular websites did this. Then regular people would have absolutely no way to ever get on the front page of twitch

    • @odotawaissaku3755
      @odotawaissaku3755 Před 11 měsíci

      That is Twitch's fault. All fextra is doing is promoting his stream on his own website. He's fully within his rights. It's not his fault that Twitch counts those as viewers.@@razerscale3590

  • @schmegulon
    @schmegulon Před rokem +18

    say what you want about reaction videos. at least asmon manages to make 21+ extra minutes of content with it

  • @Meatbrawl
    @Meatbrawl Před rokem +3

    As a streamer make it a point when talking to sponsors/advertisers to point this out as something you don't do and suggest they follow up with any marketing they spent on twitch to ensure their paid per view ads are actually going to viewers...
    I imagine 24/7 30k "viewers" would be chewing up a sizeable chunk of ad views.
    How pissed would an advertiser be to find out that they've had 5% of their views just absorbed by non viewers?
    Soon as advertisers start requesting their ads not be run on fextra twitch will crack down on it.

  • @darklikeashadow6626
    @darklikeashadow6626 Před 11 měsíci +4

    Twitch should just create a button that needs to be pressed on an implemented stream for the people on the external website to count as viewers. Simple solution. Let's see how many "viewers" they get now.

  • @dustybikes86
    @dustybikes86 Před rokem +1

    most other embedders are doing so relevantly, like a company embedding their official stream on their website, that makes perfect sense, or a streamer embedding their stream on their personal website that is about them, that makes sense.

  • @Tiknaps
    @Tiknaps Před rokem +1

    I know this is super pedantic, but I'm fairly confident they dont "paste" the embed on every page but rather a parent element that is part of a template they've created so whenever they make a new page its automatically included.

  • @justin_y1454
    @justin_y1454 Před rokem +30

    SAME SHIRT
    SAME BEARD
    SAME HAIR
    SAME CONTENT

  • @CaufendraSunclaws
    @CaufendraSunclaws Před rokem +5

    introducing the NPV : Non Player Viewer

  • @OvercookedOctopusFeet
    @OvercookedOctopusFeet Před rokem +6

    The only truth i know is that cheesecake is always more pleasant on the way in...

  • @GrisuXIII
    @GrisuXIII Před 11 měsíci +1

    Never visited their wiki or actively watched Fextralife but I am still kinda "forced" into their stream whenever I want a twitch drop for game XY. Just because their stream is "just there" on the front page. I bet many others are guilty of that too. I will make sure to get my drops anywhere else.

  • @luigipunk25
    @luigipunk25 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Remember back in the day when you searched for Dark souls weapons or wiki and such, u got "wikia", (nowdays "fandom?"), which was a truly community driven wiki. Nowdays u only get fextralife and it's kinda bs and mined information.

  • @depressedfrog2
    @depressedfrog2 Před rokem +1

    They don't have bots watching their streams, they have bots going into their website, that way there is the embed stream which the bots count as viewers plus they get clicks on their website meaning they can put different advertisments and get money , doubled up

  • @Dr.Jean_Pepper
    @Dr.Jean_Pepper Před rokem +31

    Whoever does the MHwiki from Fextra must be the only one who cares about their job since its the only wiki so far it seems pretty accurate. If only that person or people like them did the other wikis

    • @VerGiLL1
      @VerGiLL1 Před rokem +3

      What MH ? Because at launch, both MHR and MHW were terrible.

    • @snoopwagon8760
      @snoopwagon8760 Před rokem +16

      Yeah I agree that they do some scumbag stuff but man I've never had issues with the wiki and I swear there isn't a better guide for dark souls 1 & 3 at least. Idk why we have to pretend like they are complete trash.

    • @CLARENCErr
      @CLARENCErr Před rokem +18

      The inaccuracy thing is being blown a bit out of proportion, the core of the issue is the twitch imbedding. Their wikis for older games like nioh 1/2, dark souls Elden ring, and sekiro are all excellent in my experience.
      Nowadays though, their wikis for newer games are INCREDIBLY shallow because they want to shit out guides and wiki pages ASAP for the sole purpose of attracting more people to their embedded stream.

    • @jamfero
      @jamfero Před rokem +7

      Imagine not using kiranico for monster hunter info

    • @VerGiLL1
      @VerGiLL1 Před rokem +6

      @@jamfero Exatcly, Kiranico is the go to for MH since idk 4U ?
      Also wikidot for DS is miles better.. At leaast for DS1, don't know about DS3 and Bloodborne tough.

  • @sebastianwhatever4182
    @sebastianwhatever4182 Před rokem +13

    Their sekiro, bloodborne, wo long, ds1-3 and god of war wiki was complete accurate for me. Didnt know about all this shit. I even used some of their builds. Mainly used their wiki to find weapons/armors and some shit for playinum in BB/sekiro. Havent seen any incorrect info, seriously. Im surprised they are such scumbags. This is sad.

    • @Daniel_bmc
      @Daniel_bmc Před rokem

      Same for me I always thought the wiki was great and I still do but it’s interesting seeing the other side of this too

    • @CrazyGamebino
      @CrazyGamebino Před rokem

      I mainly used fex for ds3 maps because I always got lost either looking for a quest boss or quest item in ds3
      besides 1 or 2 weapons/items I never actually used the site only actually using it for the higher level titanite’s because I wanted to max my abyss watcher greatsword and dagger and had no idea where to look so I didn’t really pay attention to the quality of the information

    • @gabrielgalhano5019
      @gabrielgalhano5019 Před rokem

      I think the quality on their wikis depends on the community. They did admit that they can't take full praise for the quality on their actual good wikis because it is community built. Souls community seems to be really commited in helping but according to some people other wikis are bad and wrong so. Yeah its pretty sad because I've seen the guy taking on criticism from youtube comments to make their video better. Even the armored core drama he was not mad at people for disagreeing with him.

    • @gilneyn.mathias1134
      @gilneyn.mathias1134 Před rokem

      I use it all the time too, since its almost always the first link on Google, and yeah, most of the info seems fine, but there are a bunch of pages with placehold text or outdated info, since, i guess, after the game hype end they dont update the pages anymore...
      I just finished Remnant 2 and i found a couple of those problems, even tho the game isnt even that old and its a really good game with a good amount of players...

  • @faizrabbani
    @faizrabbani Před rokem +1

    Fextralife has another huge issue...,.they optimize the fun out of games. For Elden Ring, all they're builds were let's make something to spam L2.

  • @danielgally6389
    @danielgally6389 Před 11 měsíci +3

    the "I've never heard of Fxtralife" button

  • @razz5841
    @razz5841 Před 11 měsíci +1

    You say advertisers are getting finessed, but what kind of advertisers doesn't have their own metrics and tracking to see if the ad was worth it for them? If they keep sponsoring them, they probably see the worth in it.

  • @Castle_Games
    @Castle_Games Před rokem +23

    I've been using their wiki since bloodborne came out and it's been fairly accurate for me in bloodborne, dark souls 3, and elden ring but i think after this situation I'll avoid using their site from now on.

    • @AlastairGames
      @AlastairGames Před rokem

      there are better sites to use

    • @EddiXP
      @EddiXP Před rokem

      ​@@lfcbprothey can't! It's so pathetic

    • @EddiXP
      @EddiXP Před rokem

      ​@@velraven8944they have become so miserable

    • @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal
      @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal Před rokem

      @@EddiXP Facts.

    • @xcenex479
      @xcenex479 Před 11 měsíci

      ⁠@@EddiXPwhat reuploading? his video is double the length of charlie’s video lol

  • @Firkey73
    @Firkey73 Před rokem +5

    Won’t someone think of those poor advertisers! Asmon has a TON of money in this game and that’s why he’s so passionate about this. OTK and Mythic rely basically entirely on ads and sponsors to exist so it make sense he’s going to defend his bottom line and his millionaire streamer friends. Don’t like fextra? Don’t watch their stream and don’t go to the site, until twitch makes a stand here nothing will change and all these videos are just rich people flailing being viewer Andys

    • @Firkey73
      @Firkey73 Před rokem +3

      And leave it to Twitch streamers to think the only place a “community” can exist is within a twitch stream, fextra has plenty of community aspects on the site. And the argument that “who would be interested in the AC6 stream when they are on the guide for DS3???!!” Of course there is no way that someone playing an older fromsoft title would be interested in watching the newest fromsoft title lol so out of touch

  • @irrelevanthero7410
    @irrelevanthero7410 Před rokem +1

    I landed in Fextralife's stream before for a drops, or give away. I forget which. It was active, but I ended up on their twitch stream 2 months later for a general stream and there was like 20k people in there and maybe 20 people chatting about the game. It was obvious what was going on.

  • @zarakitube
    @zarakitube Před rokem +5

    Somebody should make a google chrome add that prevent embedded twitch

  • @tavakio
    @tavakio Před rokem +1

    don't count embed viewers or make it show separately simple for twitch to fix if they care or want.

  • @adrianhenry7631
    @adrianhenry7631 Před rokem +1

    The embedding on mobile is even more hidden, its all the way at the bottom, below all the content, so you wouldnt even see the stream, at least on PC you can argue its right infront of you, but on mobile its actually hidden

  • @deskmanatee
    @deskmanatee Před 11 měsíci +1

    dude the fextralife wiki is amazing tho? It has been extremely handy for the souls series

  • @malcolmliang
    @malcolmliang Před 11 měsíci +1

    I remember those Fextralife autoplays, I only clicked on it once.
    The narration was drier than dead trees, most of the time there's just nothing, pick any two view they will try harder than Fextralife.

  • @davidl4312
    @davidl4312 Před rokem +7

    I'm so confused about this. I use the wiki for BG3, doS2 and PotR and thought they were good. I also watched a ton of fextralife videos and build guides on youtube. So, the wiki sucks? If it sucks, then no one would use it and there would be no problem. If the issue is embedding, then its a twitch problem, right? This entire saga confuses me. Sssniperwolf exists guys

  • @authentictaco8166
    @authentictaco8166 Před 4 měsíci

    All they had to say was “we apologize for any misunderstanding, we do this to show how we are gathering this information and for everyone to follow along”

  • @dodger7896
    @dodger7896 Před rokem +1

    with dark souls 2 items were moved for sotfs so for that only ill give them the benefit of doubt

  • @johangou
    @johangou Před 11 měsíci +1

    "are you a gamer?" - "no." - "me too. and as a gamer..."

  • @KiazaKadaj
    @KiazaKadaj Před rokem

    there’s some people out there with multiple guides and tabs open of fextra while playing a game and their cpu is absolutely imploding and they dont understand why

  • @SuperPranx
    @SuperPranx Před 11 měsíci

    To be fair, I’ve used the hell out of their Elden Ring interactive map, but I do have my adblocker configured to automatically remove their embeded stream :)

  • @Itsa-sh
    @Itsa-sh Před 11 měsíci +1

    12:20 Although Twitch has a weird way of calculating viewers because ffrom what i've found only the most recent 2 streams are counted, and it wont count (at all) if you have the same stream open multiple times. so having multiple wiki pages open in tabs would work against them i'd imagine, though 31k viewers is still nuts (it could be higher).

  • @achillesa5894
    @achillesa5894 Před rokem +20

    For those of you who are annoyed by the autoplaying stream, you can block it with ublock origin and it will stay blocked forever

    • @MJ-vv7ys
      @MJ-vv7ys Před rokem +6

      Or just use different site

  • @heyiceman
    @heyiceman Před rokem +1

    It should only count as a viewer if the primary purpose of the page that it’s embedded on is to watch the stream

  • @scdijkens
    @scdijkens Před 11 měsíci

    Omg I knew something was off when 2 of my BG3 build posts on Reddit that each took at least 1-3hrs to craft were downvoted within the first minute into oblivion.

  • @znationreaper-9948
    @znationreaper-9948 Před rokem +1

    Its true imagine your a streamer not even a big streamer and u want to be seen at all this is definitely something to be aware of

  • @liampriestman4090
    @liampriestman4090 Před rokem +3

    I also didn't know reddit bots were a thing...

  • @Gennys
    @Gennys Před 11 měsíci +1

    I can't believe that asthma and put icy veins the third of the list... I see veins is literally what you want your search engine to give you when you're talking about blizzard games...

  • @WickedAllo
    @WickedAllo Před 11 měsíci +1

    I mean..I didnt know what viewbotting or botting on reddit was until i heard you talking about it on youtube. Im 34 years old, own two race car performance shops, im a twitch affiliate and get a few thousand views per youtube video and my highest video has almost 25,000 views. Ive been doin this for a couple views and I didnt know botting was a thing, nit everyone knows, and some people have a actual life with a wife, kids, a house, and company and dont have time to pay attention to all of this.

  • @julienaurejac5912
    @julienaurejac5912 Před rokem +4

    Am i the only one that use fextralife elden ring wiki like all the time and its accurate ?

    • @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal
      @N3r0ThlHeavyMetal Před rokem

      I platinumed both BB and ER using fextralife, its a great site.

    • @patrickboian8545
      @patrickboian8545 Před 10 měsíci

      I read from soft boss lore on there all the time.

  • @Gennys
    @Gennys Před 11 měsíci +1

    You guys have to realize how much 30K is concurrent.. this is Dr disrespect numbers, or Tim cast IRL numbers on CZcams...

  • @jackmacgillicutty8045
    @jackmacgillicutty8045 Před rokem +1

    They gotta stop trying to treat the symptom. If Fextralife loses credibility completely and loses site traffic and so they go away, some other spore will grow in the same loophole; it's fertile ground. You gotta go to advertisers in the interest of full disclosure with your concerns. If advertisers share that concern, they'll put pressure on Twitch. Specific complaints from the money make change. And now you'll look like a hero to those advertisers. Machiavellian, sure, but it works.

  • @garyboyles5762
    @garyboyles5762 Před rokem

    Not only does this detract from the false information from their website, it takes much longer for those like myself to load the page up on my mobile device.

  • @AronHallan
    @AronHallan Před rokem

    Never heard of them lol. Thanos: "I don't even know who you are"

  • @aidenkz
    @aidenkz Před 11 měsíci

    Miles Morales: play dumb
    Who's Miles?
    Miles: Not that dumb!

  • @rsmorex
    @rsmorex Před rokem

    I've never heard of it every time I look for a game tip I search youtube or add the word wiki in my search and I've only ever really ended up on a fandom page

  • @JackieTrung243
    @JackieTrung243 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Fextralife Elden Ring and Souls 3 are solid. Their youtube Videos are quite soothing to listen to. They also have a very well made, accomplished map of Elden Ring items.
    Don’t care about their Twitch channel though.

  • @Jenkkimie
    @Jenkkimie Před rokem

    Some months ago I was surprised to see those Twitch viewer numbers on Frexlalife stream but it all makes sense now.

  • @ohaidare
    @ohaidare Před rokem

    the end result of this will be advertisers reducing the payout per advertisement presented to each "viewer".

  • @Jynkies007
    @Jynkies007 Před rokem

    Guy with beard and long hair in raggedy white shirt reacts to other guy with beard, long hair and raggedy white shirt's reaction. We must go deeper.

  • @Juvenwastaken
    @Juvenwastaken Před rokem +11

    What twitch can do is to create a way to sort embedded stream viewers out of the view count. That way fextralife will have a reality check that their "community" is no more than 20

    • @mariosblago94
      @mariosblago94 Před 11 měsíci

      but why would Twitch do that? It's literally burning money.

  • @Aenahea
    @Aenahea Před rokem

    "Addressing this one last time"

  • @criticalshotstudios
    @criticalshotstudios Před rokem

    They get lots of preview copies of stuff and use that for their info and once the game comes out they info dump like crazy with patched out info

  • @ryoriotwow
    @ryoriotwow Před rokem

    Even the CS 1.5 bots would occasionally write messages.

  • @poisonedart1333
    @poisonedart1333 Před rokem

    I noticed, if you have a VPN on and attempt to go into their sites, it blocks access with an ERROR 1005 message.

  • @Plus_Escapee
    @Plus_Escapee Před 7 měsíci

    Spitting game is throwing out a lot of bullshit, like claiming ignorance, faking hard times, faking family trouble, faking legal trouble, or any form of deflective, disarming, or confusing horseshit that makes you such a handful that nobody wants to take you on and correct your behavior. They think they are getting out of trouble, but people who spit game only make things worse in the long run, however, even with a notorious and infamous reputation for being a liar, liars continue to think that they are powerful, and that everyone around them is falling for it, even if we aren't.

  • @Brite__
    @Brite__ Před rokem

    They don't even get anyone asking why there's no one talking anymore because they swapped to sub only mode and removed /chatters for everyone but moderators lol

  • @centurion7398
    @centurion7398 Před rokem +1

    I've used their stuff for Divinity Original Sin 2 for years and never had an issue. Never knew about the controversy because I despise Reddit and generally stick to YT rather then twitch. Good to know I guess.

  • @StoryBound
    @StoryBound Před rokem

    when i started d4 i was first introduced to fextra and quickly realized every single build guide was complete trash.

  • @Liquid-TV
    @Liquid-TV Před 11 měsíci

    Multiple tabs from a single browser counts as a single session.

  • @DecayedPony
    @DecayedPony Před rokem

    No idea how they still consider embedding a viewer. As stated in the video Embeds are good for advertising your stream, but it shouldn't count.

  • @restinginn9906
    @restinginn9906 Před rokem

    If I saw the fextralife stream in a small corner of their website I’d immediately question why my adblock didn’t block it lol it literally looks like one of those automatic ads that play.

  • @aligeda94
    @aligeda94 Před rokem

    I don't know how many people here played Divinity Original Sin 2, which is another Larian game, their builds in their website are memed on by community. So much so that people start making challenge runs with their builds. It was that bad.

  • @johnc6497
    @johnc6497 Před rokem

    I guess I lost my "gamer" (Tm) cred, because I had to Google what the hell Fextralife was...

  • @AndrewTheFrank
    @AndrewTheFrank Před rokem +1

    By Twitch allowing embedding they are gambling. When it blows up in their face they are betting that advertisers will not pull out of Twitch hard. If they do however then it could hurt their bottom line to the point of going under. For once advertisers are aware and cautious they wont be able to trust Twitch for a while.

  • @hullbreachdetected4846
    @hullbreachdetected4846 Před 11 měsíci

    Best way to force Twitch to ban embed function, is to contact all the companies that advertise on Twitch, and tell them that Twitch is promoting channels by embed views, that don't actually watch their advertisements. As long as it's about money, it will happen.

  • @mattreigada3745
    @mattreigada3745 Před rokem

    Hot take inbound: why should anyone care if their views are from embedding?
    I completely agree that the means by which they drive traffic to their site is scummy and completely support banning their links from subreddits in an attempt to stop them from pushing their links to the top with bots. However…
    Just about every website has ads. Embedding your twitch stream into the ad bar is just a way of occupying ad space. These aren’t views being stolen away from other streamers, these are sidebars on Fextralife being used where an advertisement could be served. It’s ultimately the same exact model as every other site, except with the added middleman of leaving advertiser acquisition up to Twitch and having someone actually play the game on stream. If they want to embed their stream on their website then more power to them, Twitch gets a dollar and they get a dollar. What’s scummy is taking up space that could be occupied by better, more reliable sources in order to prop up your own financial incentives. However you could also argue that is the entirety of the media landscape, it’s just more ethical when competitors compete by offering better value to viewers.

  • @n3v3rforgott3n9
    @n3v3rforgott3n9 Před 11 měsíci

    I was using their site for BG3 and never knew about their stream being embedded in it or that i was being counted as a viewer for a game i never heard of...

  • @improvementchannel270
    @improvementchannel270 Před rokem +1

    Everywhere on the internet where you can see "an amount of people" there is botting

  • @TheMadAtter
    @TheMadAtter Před 11 měsíci +2

    Does Linus Media Group own Fextralife? seems like something they'd do.

  • @gnomepower7365
    @gnomepower7365 Před rokem +1

    imagine buy a embedding slot on a site in India or China.....

  • @KwispyKweme
    @KwispyKweme Před 11 měsíci

    To be fair, i didnt know reddit bots were a thing. It makes sense that there would be, ive just never thought about it before because i dont use reddit.

  • @cavsfightingroom3692
    @cavsfightingroom3692 Před rokem +6

    idk man their elden ring wiki was fantastic and helped me a lot and their demon souls remake build videos were great too for me when I started getting into souls games

  • @stargazerkawaii
    @stargazerkawaii Před 11 měsíci

    I didn't drink and drive officer. I've never even seen a car before. Alcohol? What is that?

  • @freshoutafolsom20
    @freshoutafolsom20 Před 11 měsíci

    Me a 30yo man who's used reddit for like 10yrs and im just now in the year 2023 learning about reddit updoot bots

  • @whiskeysour1179
    @whiskeysour1179 Před 11 měsíci

    I'm no coder but it seems to be that a reasonable fix, without removing the embedding, would be to put a timer on them so that each embedded window only plays for two minutes or so, then turns into a link to the twitch stream proper. But I guess a code monkey could climb over that wall. This whole controversy is hilarious. The internet is scam land, always has been.