Slow Start/Top Speed Metacycle
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2023
- Playing with more settings for the Metacycle controller. Disabling Slow Start, Changing default speed, higher RPM.
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May last bike was a Bandit 1200, there is no such thing as a "soft start" on that monster unless you are feathering the clutch. Also, you went higher than "high" mode. You went to the unheard of "hige" mode. Be careful in "hige" mode. I did something similar to my cheap but nice 500w commuter bike. The bike was hard locked at 32km/h so I ordered an unlocked display from China. I had to order a 7 pin sm connector instead of the normal 5 pin barrel connector because it has an integrated horn/light. So I took the custom 7 pin barrel plug and cut it off the old display spliced the wires to the new display and was getting around 35km/h right away. I then sold my old battery for $200 and bought a 52v battery battery for $400 shipped. Now I run at 37-39km/h depending on terrain. So for $227 I got a 14.5-18% increase in speed. Not mind numbing, but this is my first e-bike and I'm using it as a test bed. What's holding it back is the controller, it's integrated though and I don't feel like redoing the wiring harness for maybe another 3 or 4 km/h. I'm a computer tech by trade so I like to overclock or break stuff. Cheers. Good job.
I changed my sport mode current limit from 220 to 240 and saw a difference when engaging sports mode. I will try increasing the soft start grade and see if that helps with the quicker takeoff. Thanks again for taking the time to do this video.
How did the soft start changes effect the acceleration off the line?
@@nikom8824 When I clicked the soft start back on and increased from 8 to 12, I didn't notice any real difference but when unchecking the soft start I notice that it had a bit more torque off the line in normal mode and even more torque in sports mode. It was not a mind blowing difference but enough where I'm happy with it.
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Nice work! I love that you've been documenting the hacking for everyone to see.
As for the 1600 rpm/101 Mph top speed though, the bike will never be able to achieve that because it doesn't have the power capability. With no load you can spin it up to 1600 rpm, but you'd never achieve that while it was loaded and riding on the street.
Keep up the great work.
6:54 i think that might be because i think the soft start setting or rate of rise affects torque and when there is no load on the motor it probably doesn't have any noticeable difference. but when there is load it might be pretty noticeable because then you actually need torque.
What software are you using to hack the meta cycle ?
Great videos! Did you notice a notable faster start and acceleration after unchecking of slow start and increased rate of rise? Personally, I wouldn't mess with top speed but faster start/acceleration would be helpful. I'm curious what your experience was actually driving the bike after the mods.
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Do you think the battery would have an issue pushing the amps required for the higher top speed? Or is the controller really the limiting factor here? Nice video as always
I honestly think the HUB motor would be the one having trouble to keep up (unfortunately, also the most expensive/difficult component to replace/fix). I did not change (yet) any current settings, so both battery and controller would probably be ok. From my (very limited!!!) testing for now, it seems that the motor gets warmer! I did not have a chance to ride this for too long, so please take this for what it is: it's possible to do it, but one of the components might not be able to take the load, especially for long periods of time! Also, please remember that there is no load on the rear wheel, in realistic road conditions this might be quite different.
@@metacyclehack I actually think that the HUB motor can handle much more Voltage and amps. It is a PMAC HUB receiving DC power and with some ferrofluid and heatsinks added to the motor it should be able to handle much more. I'm currently running a QS273 hub motor ( which I suspect is somewhat similar to the Meta Motor) with ferrofluid and heatsinks powered by a 72V MOLICEL 300amp Ant BMS Pack and a SABVOTON 72200 unlocked (DC Current Limit: 200A, Max. Phase Current: 450A, Protect Phase Current: 550A) on max settings and the motor is barely warm to the touch after riding at full throttle (65 to 72MPH) for a couple miles. I really need to open up that battery pack and see what BMS and Cells are in it. I think that they may have cheapen out on the batteries and BMS. The current VOTOL EM200/2 SP should be able to perform a little better than what it is currently and a quality battery should may be able to help it do that. These are just my thoughts though.
I have a MetaCycle and I bought this cable. I’m pretty sure the max amp spec for the hub motor is 240 amp. I did buy the hub heat sink and I’m not sure exactly where to drill on the hub motor or if I should wait until I have to change the rear tire. I contacted the hub motor manufacturer in China and I’m waiting on a reply to see what they say their recommended max limit is on the motor. I’ve maxed out around 84mph on gps in sport mode but the only part that gets hot is the hub motor. Triggered a temperature failsafe. So 220 to 240 amp. Rpm increase. Soft start disable. And a heat sink is what I’m looking at in the near future. Lmk if you have any advice… very little literature at the moment on these.
@@billybob-wx9dv The Hub does not require any drilling for installation of the heat sink. The heat sink has hardware and thermal paste and is very easy to install.The only time drilling is needed is for adding ferrofluid.
@@jfeliciano15 I know. It works better with the fluid. I just don’t want to drill and hit something inside the case. Haven’t seen anyone do it but I know it’s necessary for unlocking it or else you’ll trip the overheat protection for an hour and you’ll be stuck.
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@Metacycle Hacking Have you had the chance to compare stock settings to increase in rate of rise + slow start disabled? If so, how many seconds off the 0-60 in your opinion, if any?
6:10 yeah i don't think that will happen. i think you would need more torque than the motor has. probably around triple.
Also I don't think the controller can output enough power.
These calculated values are a pipe dream and not the real world. Sondors did not use the actual wheel diameter in order to falsely display the max speed. Also, changing the controller settings will overheat the motor.
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Sondors built for the safe spot. We are looking for the sweet spot. Your disclaimer was addressed in earlier videos. We understand the battery has to cool down at some point.
By the way, can we put a water cooler on this thing? Or maybe nitrogen tanks that can engage when taking it to the limit?
Can you please say which turn signals you have, where to get them and how easy to install? Thanks.
I use these: amzn.to/3Lh1jc8. They are quite easy to install, I can make a video on it.
@@metacyclehack Thanks! Are they plug compatible, or some wiring needed?
does it do wheelies with these new settings?
one can wheelie a bicycle................
@@mannyechaluce3814 i know but according to couple videos this couldn't do it atleast with stock settings.
I don't think you'll be able to do a wheelie, whatever changes you might make! :) However, it's WAY more fun to drive (and it was fun to drive to begin with)! I'm sure that will impact the range, but... you can't have both. What I'd like to do is to be able to choose a global setting like "max range" or "all out" at a push of a button! ... working on that :)
@@metacyclehack that's interesting. I thought it would do wheelies cus i think it has enough power and torque. I wonder why it doesn't do it cus i have seen people do wheelies with 8kw hub motor that would go 60mph so i think these two should have around the same amount of torque. Maybe the bikes i have seen are lighter or something. Or maybe they have diffrent center of gravity. 🤔
Great idea. I'm wondering if a tank of nitrogen could release cold when the battery gets hot. I'm no physicist but computers use water coolers and so did the Maxim MG. Even if for just a few minutes, it would be like nitrous for electric.