Helping a Hardcore Video Game Addict | Dr. K Interviews
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2020
- Dr. K interviews Scott who has video game addiction.
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He just stole 2 hours of gaming from this man.
This made me laugh out loud
@@StonyComet same lol
lol
Yeah, Dr K would have really enjoyed those 2 hours of Dota.
@@vi777x4 The joke was that dr K stole the 2 hours from the addict
This guy is very well spoken and likeable. He could do a lot socially if he dedicated more time to other endeavours.
Well put.
Yes, I agree. This indian dude seems to know his stuff.
@@AmazingTrousers lol
you'd think that.
what if someone is not well spoken and not likeable (like me) what should they do, to be that.
The fact that he's even on the show means that he wants to better himself. Really brave of him and wish him all the best in life. God bless him
Dr. K knowing about games and being similar to these guys helps so much. When the guy doesn’t understand something, he makes a WoW reference and the guy immediately understands it
This was a breath of fresh air, a lot of other guests don't provide much back and forth and instead leave giant silent moments and go off on tangents. I understand everyone is here to get help but from a viewer stand-point this was much easier to watch.
I understand your comment, but its like providing an observation that the guests Dr. K hosts arent socially optimal..
I think it is because he usually interviews big streamers. And in actual reality they may be real humans, but they are humans that not to many people can relate to. This guy seems more practical then a lot of the other guests. He still touches on some great points with a Reckful for example, but I do agree this is more helpful for AoE healing.
@@ChristopherSideris1117 That really helps me understand his potential point of view. I agree!
Yeah he also seems very genuine and isn't hamming things up. I also feel like there were some the things Dr. K tried to push even tho it wasn't really the case, and he was able to not change his answer based on where he was being led.
@@ChristopherSideris1117 A lot of the issues the big streamers have are relatable, but it is frustrating to me seeing how successful they are. Maybe that's my own issue, but then someone did say they seem to take their opportunity for granted so maybe there is a subtlety there.
This guy portrays something very well, the insecurity and reluctance to answer questions and I believe it stems mostly from school which is so sad but school today almost punishes answering wrong.
Na it stems from the fact he's an addict, and him admitting out load something he has invested his whole life into isnt helping him makes him feel insecure therefore you shut down rather than answer openly, that's why the first step to ending any addiction is getting past the denial.
@@hebisty4163 no ita the other way around, think about it
@@hebisty4163 Did you watch the video/listen to Dr.K?
Addiction isn't a part of the conversation. It has to do with the fact that he as a young child learned that the world is cruel and there is no such thing as stability other than videogames. Videogames made him feel the way that the human brain wants us to feel.
Dude, this is phenomenal. I've been doing my own spiritual work over the past few years, and watching your videos WHILE going to therapy every week for about a month now. Yesterday I was pondering what feeling I feel when I get the urge to reach for my vape. And I concluded that it was whenever I felt uncertainty. Lo and behold, the final 30 minutes of the video is basically 1-to-1 my life. This connection that happened from my own introspection, and immediately followed by an explanation from a professional, kinda cemented that feeling as the root of my problems. I feel that very profoundly as I'm writing this.
I can't wait to bring this to therapy and maybe find the Samskara that caused this. Thank you Dr. K, thank you Scott, and thank you to the community
Your profile Pic used to be my computer wallpaper back in 2020 😂
Thanks Scott it means a lot for you to come on here and do this. You're a beautiful, wonderful person.
Timestamps:
1:11 What games do you play?
1:25 How the WOW ranking system works LOL
2:48 Is WOW/gaming fun?
5:55 Progress in a game VS Progress IRL
7:18 Is video game addiction really a bad thing?
9:30 Why don't you have a job? (fear of rejection)
17:25 Gaming is a "protective" thing
18:00 "I could be doing better"
21:05 Why do you want to do better?
25:13 Where is the healer?
25:55 When did it start? (the rejection)
31:47 Burdening other people
Stopped watching at this point since Scott's situation diviated from mine.
Might come back looking for more answers tho :)
Notes:
- Is gaming really bad? It's often protective. The real question is: what is it protecting you from?
- Your brain doesn't know the difference between IRL progress and progress in a game. That's why it can be so easy to just game and make progress there, rather than IRL
My takeaways:
I related to Scott quite a lot. As someone who played a ton of games recently to "escape" life and who is also on a job search, games feel way more "fun" to me since they provide a constant sense of progress.
After all, why put a ton of time and effort into something that may just amount to rejections? It makes sense.
I don't have a solution unfortunately. I'm still looking for answers myself.
For anyone else out there job searching, I'm wishing you the best of luck.
The process sucks but we just gotta push thru
This looks like a college assignment
@@atryeuu9226 I did something similar to a video that I related to, it felt nice to put my thoughts down somewhere
I love when your interviews hit close to home, this guest was one of my favs so far!
Thanks for what you do dr. K, I think it’s really valuable, been watching loads of your VODs and a couple streams. They’ve been helping me so thanks. Seeing a proper Dr now in Scotland for some dissociation stuff etc and we’ve uncovered lots of stuff I didn’t know I was subconsciously upset about and starting to get better. Your area of effect healing has indirectly impacted me quite a bit. So thank you.
"Gaming is the way that your brain tanks the bad stuff in life."
Gamers rise up :(
That's deep
facts. Gaming>drugs
This guy is such a nice dude, hope he achieves what he's looking for in the future!
Scott, my man, listening to you for 2 hours made me realise so much about myself and my own shortcomings. Though we share very different childhood and are from different parts of the world but even then there is so much i can relate to you. Life is tough man. And it does suck most of the time. The word "success" is just the tip of the iceberg that floats above the water. Below the water lies all the insecurities, bad luck, sacrifices, heartbreaks, etc. It's good that you realised the things that hold you back which means you've figured it out. Now you gotta overcome em. I wish you all the luck in this world. I hope you make your loved ones super proud one day.
P.S. I'm on the same journey as well. See you on the other side Scott. Much Love
"30-40% of gamers I talk to had alcoholic parents." Everything they talked about made so much sense. My mom was an alcoholic for a long time and gaming in my room was my only solace while I lived there. In college, I used gaming to heal from the lack of friendships I had and sexual abuse I endured. Gaming was my tank and, like him, for a little too long. I numbed myself for a long time. It still is a tank sometimes, when I come home from work after a bad day, but mostly it is used as a way to connect with people over twitch or have fun with my husband. Streaming has totally changed gaming from a vice to a virtue.
I'm glad you've changed and realized how things were working in your life.
But streaming isn't a virtue :p
Never thought about it like that but tbh I've played games a LOT since around like age 14 which is around the time my mum became an alcoholic. Sorry you went through that btw.
I have been listening for 10 minutes and I had to stop to write a comment.
Just wanted to say that it takes a shit load of courage to open up like you're doing man. And obviously, you are a smart guy who has a lot of potential. I wish you the best in finding the right balance with video games. You are on the right path, keep going man :)
I discovered Dr. K two days ago and I also wanted to say that this guy is a blessing. I am very grateful for all the good stuff on the internet, we need more of that.
this is making me cry from how relatable this one is.
I just found your channel and love it, and love that you are using yogic methods in making people question themselves :) I am somewhat a game addict myself, those games that make you chase levels and progress with a community aspect are the addictive ones in my case. The sad thing is they are purposefully built like that to keep us hooked.
Great job using motivational interviewing type techniques! This helped me tremendously to reconceptualize the issue of video game addiction.
Absolutely phenomenal video, Dr. K. Thank you!
It's amazing how much introspection Dr. K can influence through just simple questions.
Thank you, Dr. K. You can tell that you are passionate about this whole project and I really enjoy listening to many episodes. Keep it on, I can relate so much :)
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didn't expect to relate to this video as much but i really enjoyed the guest! good conversationalist and made things engaging even though the subject matter doesn't apply to my life as much as some of the other topics dr. k has focused on.
I wish my therapist was like dr. K. First 5 minutes was him just asking genuine questions about what dude was saying
I feel like this guy is extremely relatable and easy to connect with as someone who games too much. He's a completely reasonable smart guy and it's really easy to draw comparisons and make connections about how gaming impacts my life as well
This guy was great to listen to. Awesome video as usual
from 42:30 minutes onward there is lag between video and audio.
Like this so Dr. K sees this and fixes it
What do you think he's gonna do about it? Go back and film it again?
@@Djeveldyrker edit it so he can sync it maybe?
@@PaoloStortiPaul no way
he cant fix it once the video is up
i want to like it, but it's at 69 likes
This episode is very interesting. I find myself relating to Scott in many ways, however I stopped playing games sometime ago because it got very physically and maybe emotionally taxing that's why I want to see an episode on hardcore internet addiction in the future!
I have the opportunity of knowing this gamer IRL. One of the coolest peeps I have ever met. A great video doc!
Dude I'm within the first ten minutes of the video and let me just say I love the questioning in this episode. Really coming from a place of understanding in terms of helping a gamer break negative thought patterns by helping him and the viewers see their thoughts from a different perspective. (At least that's what I took from it; your objective could very well have been completely different though) Keep it up very valuable content!
Such a cool moment when he said "he found us" gaming community can come in clutch some days. The end of the video when he is talking about uncertainty, the audio sync is something i did not expect, screw watching these videos now.. Just kidding, that really hit home for me though. It really really helped me understand video games and how they play a part in my life. Thanks Drk
Idk if he’s reading this but you are very well spoken.. and seem very quick witted. You will find a solid job man just put yourself out there.
Dr k has helped me more by just watching these interviews than any therapist ive ever had. 🎉🎉🤙🤙
i like this guy! is a helpful take generally.
I was lucky enoght to catch this live, the talk was really good, but that last part was so interesting! A bunch of really helpful stuff in just a few minutes.
Thanks Doc, needed this.
This one was very helpful, thank you for this
Really like this guys openness and willingness to not get defensive, a pair of balls on him.
You're a good guy Scott, wishing you all the best.
SUPER interesting as always, too bad this upload has many freezes and eventually gets out of sync with audio and video. Enjoyed it nonetheless though, so fascinating to learn about these brave people coming on, telling their stories, trying to help themselves. GG
@Brandon Lee Barrow same
"Maximize and optimize your laziness. Be lazy but be lazy the best way you can. Don't work hard. The way to become successful is by adding value, not by adding effort."
Another valuable stream. Lot of gems in it.
Especially the last part resonated with me: 1:56:57 - 2:11:25
I think I got a new life approach: sacrifice for laziness. I'm driven/motivated but also lazy and I can't change myself.
--> I invest ("sacrifice") time/resources upfront to create things that automatically deliver me more value later. So the result is that I can be successful and lazy afterwards. That's a goal to work for ;-)
@Kiko Reyes ?
@@lukaslww2671 Its a meme haha like the ??? are one of those get rich quick schemes
When is the timestamp of the quote?
@@dark-lord-vinay LOL, didn't know that one
@@ahmetcesmeci 2:01:00, I paraphrased it a little bit.
I really enjoyed the ending part about gamers avoiding uncertainty. Ive always wanted to do art but chose computer science instead because I didnt have the confidence to pursue art and nobody believed in me. I applied for 1 job after uni where I knew Id get it and I got it. 3 years later is where Im now where Im thinking what the hell am I doing with my life.
He is so sweet. I hope he’s doing well
Props to this guy. If you read this Scott : Please know that as a random person struggling with a gaming addiction I'm 28 years old. I have similar issues: But you have alot of self awareness to be able to go through with this and go along with his questions. You want to get better. It's clear, you've thought about this and are taking steps to help yourself, and totally unsolicited helping others by showcasing this interview.
Thank you very much.
I love to see people supporting each other like this, bro! I wish you all the best, and don't be to hard on yourself!
Well damn. That confidence/Guarantee talk at the end is actually the truest thing I´ve ever heared.
The thing I hate most in video games is when something is bugged/not working as it should be. Because you do sth 5000 times and it always works exactly like that, you depend and rely on it working exactly like that. If it doesn´t you are the one who fucked up. But if it´s bugged you get that uncertainty and if it repeats itself to many times you stop going for that play.
Thank you for this video. I play maybe 8 hours a day but only because i have a full time job otherwise it would be more. Alcoholic mother that died while we were not on speaking terms and this whole video didn't feel personal until the realization... and now it all makes so much sense. That feeling that your parent doesn't value you. Games are defiantly a shield from those feeling of guilt, shame, rejection.
Much love to him I hope he recovers :)
Can relate a lot with these quests comparing with my past self. The main issue to overcome is to being too analytical, self-critical/loathing and putting too much feeling and expectations on social situations due to inexperience. It is strange that I still will choose gaming than taking action like building an application that might help people.
Why does Dr. K speak so many truths holy shit, this guy is a wizard. 100% relatable btw
God bless you and Scott, Dr. K! This interview is being such a blessing to me. I don't struggle with video game addiction quite as much but my issues are almost identical to Scott's - I have an addict/alcoholic mother and our relationship has led towards fear of rejection which I cope with via gaming. No wonder I love playing Minecraft so much, one of my favorite things about it is that there's no wrong way to play it! There's no way to fail!! Hahaha it seems so obvious now. Thank you both, truly, and thank God Himself for putting this interview in my path.
1:26:30 It always amazes me how much stuff like this from this channel helps me to understand myself better. Thanks for another amazing stream upload for us to learn from Dr. K! 👏
best of luck scott!
im 11 mins in and this guy is awesome. he speaks what he thinks without faking.
i would guess that dr. k. is leading him to realise something what he can accept
but i dont know what it is. i am pretty similar to him, even tho i got a job secured in my
bag...
"a lot of world of warcraft"
i like him already
Ahhhhhh a man of culture
Didn't wow have time limit like 10 hours a day or smthing? I heard my friends wow acc get banned bcs he played too long
@@hilihkintil6789 follow my insta @tdubs007 and I'll tell u my whole life story about ww
@@hilihkintil6789 This is definetely not true unless his parents made some kind of deal with blizzard LMAO
If this was true I would be banned a hundred times over (no im not proud of that)
@@alexanderp578 my friends was some kind of farmer in Wow for real money and he definitely told me his account got banned because he played for too long. Maybe blizzard target ban farmers?
"In the perfect world, men like me would not exist, but this is not a perfect world."
It seems that you like your job. Cool! It inspires me
Very likeable person and well-spoken. He's terribly insecure, understandable considering his history, but clearly high IQ. He would do incredibly well in a technical role that requires strong people skills (communication), possibly digital marketing or product management.
Yep, I thought technical customer support would be a great fit.
“High IQ” lol ok reddit
@@TheBeatlesToday ?
TheBeatlesToday imagine thinking iq doesn’t exist outside of reddit
I agree with what you mean, but IQ really doesn't matter. It isn't a good test for intelligence. You could say he's a smart person though.
ur amazing man
think I just saw him today in Auckland city and I instantly remembered watching this a year ago. Hopefully him being out and about means he's doing better, seems like a really good dude
that was probably me, I work in central hahaha
@@axorr7834 haha good job man, saw you at britomart intersection amidst a huge crowd
"What happens to my fear of the horse everytime the horse tosses me off?" - Dr. K, 2020.
The only way I know to overcome fears is to do the fearful thing more often. When I started my own business, I was afraid to go to networking events where I had to start conversations with strangers. But my business wasn't going to work without doing that, and I wanted the business to work so I could be my own boss. So I did it anyway. If you do something often, you can't help but lose your fear of it, and you can't help but get better at it.
I still don't enjoy networking, but I'm not afraid of it anymore. Now I consider it more boring than anything else. I can now walk up to strangers and start conversations, and I'm halfway decent at talking to people. I learned to ask questions and let the other person talk about themselves.
The first few times sucked, but by the 5th time it was less stressfull. By the 20th or 30th time, it became routine.
I remember when I got my first serious job. I was super intimidated, but the parts of me that gaming cultivated (competence, dedication, and efficiency) really helped. Scotts gonna do great when he gets there too.
At 1:22:00 holy that cut.
"every time you fail, you're a little more afraid the failing Scott is the real one" o o f
I just wanna give this guy a big hug and be his friend :)
for me gaming does feel like a escape from reality and sometimes to forget about bad things, i dont know what else to do so i guess i just play games all day
Saaame
fire sweater Dr. K 🔥🔥🔥
One of the keys to getting a job is following up on an interview with a phone call or email. After your interview you should email a thank you to the person who interviewed you. And if you haven't heard from the job u applied to you should call in week or so.
This is really cringe. They’re selecting the best candidate, period. Any soulless company doesn’t give a FUCK about the person.
I found this really interesting. I believe i got hooked on gaming when i was a young boy. Im in my 40's now. Got rid of my consoles at various ages. Then they go bring out smart phones, now you can game anywhere. Video games and alcohol, have definately consumed my life. 😔
It's not the games fault some games are good for you
I think this guy, Scott, is gonna achieve incredible success at his life. I really wonder how he is doing right now.
i thought i was addicted to video games but i really didnt play much till quarantine. id usualy hop on and play with friends for like an hour every other day but now i spend pretty much my entire day playing cod and other fps games lol. i will say tho, ive gotten way better
I usually don't comment on videos but I can't believe the last part he said was just describing my life on how I got from spending everyday gaming to having a job that really maximized my laziness and I really enjoy . I found what he was talking about and at the beginning I couldn't believe it but it's true, the dedication I had for the game it reflected on my job, finding a way of generating soo much value with minimum effort. I didn't know I was capable of that on my days of gaming. I still play btw and even applied what I learned at work in the game.
Out of curiosity, what’s your job?
@@0715yt I'm a Senior Manager in Data Analytics and Automation in a Bank
Online gaming is so fucking addictive... I praise the day that I decided to quit online games and start playing singleplayer experiences instead. I now spend hundreds of hours less gaming and I can quit/pause at any time to do other things, rather than having to scream at my parents because I had to finish a match.
This is the way. single player games are the way to go
I've caught so many similarities to how Scott thinks and his views of what he wants out of life, that all i can think of is just wanting to be his friend. Empathy is a weird thing.
Extremely well spoken, and I am sure a really funny dude. You have loads of potential but don't let that contribute to the burden of potential. Basically: you can absolutely do it, you are not an outcast.
Scary how relatable Scott is
Totally off topic but this guy has such a soothing voice.
leave this man alone, hes trying to get Grand Marshall gear
edit: jesus this was a joke and 3 minutes in and he actually got rank 14
Because of people like this, Leader ranking is never taking serious.
What i ment whit this is that we all know that all of the "TOP" players in every RPG are always just a no life grind. never actuall skill.
Hernan GPG I mean sure there’s no actual gameplay skill involved but I’d say playing 18 hours a day everyday for 3 months of literally only PvP is a skill, but yeah TBC and Wrath PvP is where you need real skill
I knew as soon as he said 18 hours a day that he was WoW classic rank grinding. There's no other game that I can think of that requires that much time investment.
@@hernanpaga False. In TBC Classic top pvpers will be all skill. Arena isn't a grind. I was able to hit Gladiator in 1 single day in TBC.
this channel made me realise how much people besides me actually have issues in their lifes.
I'm impressed of the pacing of this session
bro fuck off that's my pfp
@@gosonic24 LMAO
I'm just about 15 seconds in, and I can say that man is a real gamer.
edit: Rank 14 in Classic, of course. Holy shit.
I haven't yet watched the video but I relate to this guy, I was severely depressed at 17, and for about a week I pulled off 150 hours of gaming, while managing school, I barely slept. I went to a boarding school. This was my last year of high school. I also played a bunch at 13 late into the night, but i no longer do so, at least for long hours.
i have basically the exact same problem for a year now:
i could apply for jobs, got everything for my cv together, but my experiences in middle and high school basically made me just stick to gaming. i have a fear of failing, getting rejected, getting rated for my performance. id much rather pick for myself what success is. master the games i ejnoy playing. i also have a fortunate situation but my mind also tells me i cant go on playing videogames my whole life. i need to progress in the real wold and ive also realized it can give me joy aswell, but it takes away from gaming, so i always gravitate towards gaming a little too much for my liking.
I relate alot im turning 22 soon and i feel like im wasting my life away playing videos games
Hes so adorable for some reason
32:32 - Dr. K's face when he realizes his fear of rejection is connected to his dad.
I cant wait to get to this part
I feel like he dragged his dad too much into it. IDK but I dont think that that was the problem
spoiler alert
Peter Lariviere spoilers in the comments who woulda guessed
I'm playing WoW while watching this.
get some help, its not too late
@@MarelWhite playing wow is a problem? As long as its Classic wow youre fine buddy XD
id play wow but it costs way to much money, i bought eso instead that dont have stupid subscribtion
@. u spend 15 dollars on a game? Lmao
. Lmao Imagine giving 15 bucks a month to blizzard to hang out in low poly hearthstone
I would let you dps in my raid anytime scott! Getting a job is one of the hardest thing at your age. Dont let yourself get down. Youre not alone and I know you can find a job if you belive in yourself!
I dont play nor am I addicted to the same amount as this dude but after some life events happened I realized that video games take up way too much space in my life
Ty dr. K
54:09 This absurd question is so good. I laughed but it was a really good rhetorical question.
what does it mean if i actually fear falling into the sky sometimes, its stronger when doing pullups on bars and seeing the sky? its rationally clear to me, that gravity wont just stop existing and even if it did on earth, i wont fall into space probably.
Sometimes i feel that, but its not fear, i just wonder how crazy that would be
I don't understand how people can actually dislike this video.
did u hear the audio lol
its like 5 seconds out of sync
it only has 13 dislikes so i dont even understand why you care but ok.
He is very brave young man. I respect him alot for knowing enough to do this, then going that extra step to put it up for the world.
they hear him maybe and they see and project onto him their own inadequacies, the same way he protects his emotional stability by playing games, they reject this video by disliking and discounting scott because they see him as a reflection of themselves. And they don't have a problem...subconsciously.
I relate a bunch to him. But I was beaten down to a point where I couldn't work and can't afford games these days.
I'm a gamer who can relate to what he's saying. WOW, in my opinion, is evil. The game is designed to get people hooked. I've played MMORPGs before and they consume your life. A far cry from the days of Nintendo where the games are so hard that you had to quit playing out of frustration. Switching gears. I love the advice the Doc gives out and it's very helpful to people in similar circumstances to hear.
This guy has a godlike accent New Zea/English sounds fuckin sick
At 6:50 when Dr. K asks him where in the body he feels that sense of progress, my personal thought was the chest. And then immediately after, the guy in the video answers “chest” also. Holy shit this is totally me
Your comments on uncertainty resonate strongly with me. Where can I go for more guidance?
24:54 I love this man!
I knew it! Treating real life as a "make the number go up" game is a good idea :)
Feel like childhood emotional neglect caused the physical health issues. Theres studies on it.
He sounds exactly like me at 18-20, all I did was play games, started doing an IT course that I hated just because I thought it fit my lifestyle
How did you get out if it? I'm 19 now, lack friends and my girlfriend recently dumped due to my lack of confidence. I've applied for uni and feel like it is my last chance to build my social life. I only have my mom, and when she is not drunk she is distant. The lonliness right now is killing me. Do you have any tips on how to move forward?
@@oskarsverdrup9906 Sorry for the late response, I didn't get a notification for this. This is probably terrible advice but once i began to fail at my IT course due to not actually enjoying it I took a few years off to just do what I wanted, I worked and made friends and played video games even more. Eventually I started getting tired of not doing anything, I fell in love with the gym and working at my body (felt a bit like a real life mmorpg improving my "stats") and got interested in the human body and physiology so began studying health and exercise science. Working out improved my self-confidence dramatically, friends became easier to make, I felt it was easier to approach girls I was interested in etc.
My advice to you would be to see if you enjoy university, try to make friends, join some uni events or teams (usually there is video game clubs or anime clubs etc). Maybe try working out and see if you enjoy it for the confidence boost (it can be surprising how addicting strength training is - I recommend the program "starting strength") And most of all just do what brings you joy because life is too short to do what society expects of you.
This helped me