Starfield vs old Bethesda - Does it have legs?
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2023
- Starfield (PC, Xbox Series X/S) has released and hit it big time, breaking records for Bethesda. How does it stack up compared to their previous games? What can we expect from the future of Starfield? Let's talk about a bunch of stuff.
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On the modding front, Starfield is the PERFECT "modding platform" for star trek, star wars, stargate, alien, and basically any other sci fi franchise. It's only a matter of time before we get Correlian Freighters or Klingon Birds of Prey, and I'm so here for it.
I can't hear you over the potential Warhammer mods.
Exactly my thoughts, this game is maybe the biggest modding playground for modders, so much potentials.
It is quite literally the biggest modding platform i have ever seen on a game (with story), close to GTAV. The fact you can mod an entire planet and coexist with the rest of the game is insane
Imagine some Gundam or outlaw star or cowboy bebop
I tell everyone it's not a perfect game but it will be just wait for all the mods
Man Morrowind's immersion was next level. The way you really lived in that game was unmatched. The music is so damn memorable too, especially that Cliff Racer theme 😂
One great thing about it is The Racism.... Being Called N'wha even though you are a Dark elf Nerevar
@@PaulaAmato22 the native Dunmer can smell an outlander a mile away.
Also, YES, the music is Morrowind is absolutely iconic. To this day, I can hum all of the themes off the top of my head. Meanwhile, I honestly can't remember any of the music from Oblivion or Skyrim, other than the main theme, which is just Pirates of the Caribbean. Easily one of the best parts of the game and I don't see it mentioned often enough when people talk about Morrowind.
@@PaulaAmato22 I mean it makes sense within the setting, that's all I really expect.
@@itsaUSBline Morrwind's music is epic. It's one of the few themes I can remember as well. The first Fallout's music is that way for me too... epic
My wish for Starfield is that they (Bethesda or modders) add SOME reason to explore. Right now the landing zones and outposts just feel like a waste of time, when all the quests are in hand crafted locations and tell you exactly where to go.
Oblivion and FO3 will forever live in my heart as my favourite FPRPGs, never been so captured by the world and the play as those two. High adventure beyond compare.
i dont want to set the world. on. fiiirreeeee
Oblivion forever.Mind blowing game to this day.
I wish my standards were that low. Baldurs Gate 3, Pillars of Eternity, Witcher 3, Disco Elysium, Divinity, Dragon Age Origins, and New Vegas are actual good rpgs
@@TheGreatestJediOfAllTime I was talking about playing a game , not reading a book ;]
@@marekkos3513 i didnt even reply to you. And Dragon Age, BG3, and New Vegas are nothing like reading a book. You could argue pillars or disco elysium is like that. But I assume two paragraph’s of text to read is like a book to the smooth brained😉 so to each their own
Absolutely love that they added dialogue options based on perks like back in New Vegas etc
I saw that! I had one pop up for space scoundrel and I was so so surprised
Like really ? Dialogue based perks mattered more in Outer Worlds than in here ! If you love illusion of choice enjoy yourself.. BG3 Proves perk based dialogue options to change scenarios of the whole fight like Cleric and Druid in religion and nature respectively.
@@SpadeApeironhmmmm?
Persuasion/Intimidation perks completely change how you proceed with a mission in many instances.
It’s the difference between needing to go in guns blazing vs non-confrontationally resolving a situation in this game.
What “illusion” are you talking about?
@@SpadeApeironbg3 is niche af. Im not into it
Those are your actually Skills ~ Never have i ever got any bonus for choose my Character creator perks ( Space scoundrel, Cyber runner Etc )@@DESX312 And the three perks you choose after barely account in game. Has it ever occurred to you how many things actually would matter than Simply Persuasion/Intimidation ?
"illusion" is how little things change while giving you 5 dialogue options.. ( which are without persuasion/intimidation ) it always loops top whichever is 1st option.
My character origins never mattered at all. while in BG3 everything you do matters like how consequences should.. there's always 3rd 4th way of doing skills than simply persuasion/intimidation ( which are skills not perks ) Skills are coded to matter. Perks are chosen by the player to role play.
Morrowind is by far my favorite in the portfolio. It has its flaws and they aren't small ones but the world it builds and the immersion it offers is 2nd to none for me.
Same
easily my favorite setting in a videogame besides Planescape’s Sigil
Playing it now, with some modern graphics updates and small quality of life improvements, it is legitimately one of the best RPGs of all time.
And these days OpenMW is a great way of playing it. A Wabbajack compilation of Morrowind using OpenMW came out recently.
@@jonurenawriter6108 OpenMW is great most of their really exciting stuff is in their discord
Starfield feels like an amazing 8.5x11 painting on a 25.5x33 canvas. The game is so good, but there is much more room to expand and add content as the game goes on.
That's an amazing description
Couldn't have said it any better myself
Oblivion was my first open world game, it has such a special place in my heart. The adventure, discovery, and exploration is unforgettable! I still love the magic brush painting quest, I remember my mind being blown away when I went into the painting
I remember gushing about the game with my coworkers , then going home and playing it as much as I could. It felt like you could do anything at the time.
I had the same experience with the magic brush quest too, so memorable to this day
All of what you said was true for me, too
Holy shit memory unlocked. I felt like I was in a whole nother world playing that quest
And for some new gamer, starfield is that for them.
Oblivion was my first ever open world game, got randomly gifted it for Christmas and thought the starting heal spell was my only source of light and couldn’t get out of the sewer. Went back a couple weeks later and it’s now my all time favorite game, it holds up extremely well just played it recently and put another 70 hours in.
Starfield feels promising so far, I really enjoyed the faction quest line I did and while I’m not too bothered by the whole loading screen map thing to travel, I’m more bothered by the procedural worlds REALLY feeling procedural and I worry I won’t be able to explore as much like I could in other titles.
There's more to Starfield than just the procedural planets. Most of the exploration should be done in the handcrafted areas and cities, which are about as big as something like Skyrim or Oblivion. That's the problem with a lot of people that bounce off of Starfield after playing like 2 hours of the game; they think that the only thing to do in the game is explore empty planets when that isn't the case.
Haha I did the same thing with the heal spell light source back in the day. I also went back to it and loved it
I'm half with you. I reeeeally want them to add more stuff to the procedurally generated locations, like NPCs, random quests and most importantly mini stories told through notes and terminals logs!
I'm almost certain they'll add that in eventually though.
With that said, there are a ton of handcrafted places to land on most planets and moons.
If they add 5 letters that tell a story per every other procedurally generated location, I'd be thrilled. They'd be so easy to make too.
I feel like with updates / mods there could be more things that could happen as a result of custom systems that could shake things up. I hope DLCs that add more content could add to the pool of resources the proc gen can take from and give us some pleasant surprises as a result when exploring. Also mods are coming next year so Shattered Space could indicate where BGS is heading so modders can decide what they want to add/change after everything is said and done.
Same dude
I think a lot of people discovered The Elder Scrolls with Skyrim. For those people, trying to go back and play Oblivion or Morrowind is tough. But for those of us who were onboard earlier (I started with Morrowind and bought a PS3 to play Oblivion), Skyrim has a few misses. I also love Fallout 3, and enjoy it more than NV. Blasphemy, I know.
Why do you like FO3 more than NV? Curious
@@medalgearsalad1419 In my case it is the same. I got so addicted with FO3 that i finished it in a matter of days. A friend lent me it. Damn, it was the time you still had games in DVDs you could lend to your friends. Anyway, later i bought FO3 NV and never finished it. I think it was a matter of being burned out perhaps. I wouldnt know to tell you why FO3 hooked me up until the end but the other one did not.
@@Trikipum Yeah, Fallout 3 was revolutionary to me. My friends and I hyped it up as post-apocalyptic Oblivion, bought it day 1, and it absolutely delivered in our eyes. Walking out of Vault 101 for the first time blew my mind. I played New Vegas much later after release, took some great steps forward in terms of RPG and mechanics, but it didn't grab me the way Fallout 3 did.
@@michaelking4359i played new vegas when it first came out did not like it. Played it agian inn 2021 and loved it. Also played 3 for the first time and its now one of my favorite games of all time gave the feeling i got playing Kingdom come, RDR2 and Witcher 3 which was being fully immersed in a world.
YES! So happy to hearing Oblivion getting some love. This game was my first introduction to Elder Scrolls, my brother brought home his Xbox 360 from college and was playing it, then handed the controller to me, and my mind was fricken blown. I have a playlist of Oblivion over-world music that I listen to whenever I’m feeling stressed, and like you said, the setting just hit perfect for where I was at in life. This was also the game that simultaneously first introduced me to Xbox, and I immediately went out and bought a used Xbox 360 for my own.
I relate to this. I play through the OST often and give it a replay every year!
Also my first elder scrolls game and bought it totally by accident so I can relate.
you're description of how you feel about Morrowind, Oblivion, FO3, and Skyrim is spot on for me. Exactly my experience. I think the reason Skyrim didn't hit for me is that it felt so vanilla and "normal" compared to the previous games. Morrowind had silt striders, netch, houses in trees, houses in sand, every city felt so unique and otherwordly. And with each subsequent release, the amount of mystique and magic just seemed to decrease until Skyrim, which basically felt like Norway with Dragons. It felt less like high fantasy and more like medieval fantasy or Arthurian fantasy.
Starfield is impressing me so far. It's the first game in a while that has hooked me in.
i feel sorry for you xbox only fans.. now if you was a ps and nintendo fan you would have plenty of games to hook you
@@roseforyoubabeI’ve played PlayStation for 10 years… I have never been hooked like starfield. Even BG3 didn’t give me a sense of amazement like starfield. It’s immensely flawed but it’s so great. No PlayStation game has made me think that lmao
@@roseforyoubabe I play Starfield on PC and I have a PS5 you numb nutz. I don't even own an Xbox.
how does it have you hooked it? Its soooo mid. Im trying so hard to get into it but cant@@CreedM8
I personally also hooked on starfield more than BG3. BG3 is great, but I just want a casual RPG after a day of work and get lost in a sandbox space rpg. BG3 is just too taxing for me with the various skills and spells and whatsnot after a while. Guess I simply just old and treat gaming more like watching a movie, which is exactly what I'm getting with starfield.
Hand up for oblivion! The weapons were so much cooler. And the guild quests, are amazing. Big up man not enough people supporting that game! Hey and, also big respect for the legacy of kain love over the years, I'm flying the flag with you mate!
the arena was so hype
@@runegaelyn8356oblivion deserves the respect for also giving us the adoring fan
@@runegaelyn8356 ohhhh man. It was so good!
Preach, still think Oblivion the best TES game, even if playing today vanilla. Granted I missed the Morrowind train so I won't argue if someone claims it's better than Skyrim, probably is but it's age is really really showing now. Still, TES 3/4/5, hell of a trilogy. Shame that TES 6 seems doomed to be meh. Bethesda that built 3/4/5 died by 2016. Now it's just a corpse propped up by Microsoft Money and Todd Howard lies.
Oblivion could have been a great game IMO, bit the level scaling was horrendous. You could run the main quest line and beat the game by level 8. Hate level scaling with a passion, but sometimes it can be done ok.
Great video Jake! I feel the same way about Skyrim too and it was refreshing to hear someone else felt the same way, also I was pleasantly surprised where Starfield landed on your list considering some of your previous comments you’ve made about your time with the game. I’m absolutely loving it and I hope you have a great Friday bro!
Honestly Starfield is everything I didn’t know I wanted. 100 hours in and I love it. I really hope they do a bunch of story expansions involving the characters of Constellation, the UC and the Freestar.
Did you like oblivion, fallout 3, and skyrim? I LOVED those games and starfield is just so boring to me.
Get a quest, Menu screen, press L, fast travel. talk to someone, menu screen, press L, fast travel
what else is there to do 100 hours in, I have completed all the story lines and new game+ twice. I would like more combat tbh, is there anywhere you would recommend
@@Potato-tf3hvspace stations and placed markers on every planet/moon. Other than that… eeh.
@@Potato-tf3hvhow tf are we at the point where we’re like “I *ONLY* got 100 hours out of this game*
@@DrDinoNuggies Yeah ikr poor me only 100 hours game time from game I got with $10 gamepass subscription. At least many mods will soon start popping out and future dlc to keep us busy.
Starfield definitely starts out slow but the more I've played it the better its gotten. I'm really liking it and think its a great game.
I think sometimes when you’re starting a very lore heavy universe youve gotta go slow at first. Fallout 3 had a slow start because it was introducing alot of new people to it
This. I have to admit it has the worst start of any Bethesda game but it really, I mean REALLY grows on you when you go on with the journey.
Thats called coping or i only got a s series
@@fabolousjada5070 bottom of the barrel trolling here lol
@@fabolousjada5070bro stick to your PlayStation
From what I’ve seen, most People from Bethesda games have legs 🥺
Lll
Jake, the new video quality it's insane. Props💖
Oblivion is my favorite as well. And yeah, it probably is more nostalgia, but that was one of the best open-world experiences I ever had up to that point. I absolutely loved it. I am really enjoying Starfield as well. I can see myself spending years playing around in the world despite all its flaws.
Relative to the era it was released in, yeah I think Oblivion is IMO the best game of all time. Skyrim was great, Morowind and FO3, but they all felt apt for their time of release. Oblivion felt like it really raised the bar in... 2006... Wtf 2006? damn time flies.
So far I think Starfield is really good
I don't know what's coming next, but with how much I've enjoyed Starfield so far, I'm very excited to see more of it!
I've played 20 hours and I feel like the systems and the side stories and main campaign are just kicking off.
It's definitely a slow burn but I'm excited to see where Starfield goes.
I'm already at about 50 hours and yeah, you aren't kidding. I finally spent a whole evening building my dream ship once I got the higher level parts unlocked, still have yet to touch outpost building. I've done probably more than half of the main story (by my guess, not 100% sure) and two of the factions, right now I'm just running around doing as many random side quests as I can and they're all super interesting. Still feel like I'm barely scratching the surface.
I'm honestly amazed by people who could say that.
I'm about 75 hours in and finally completed the major faction stuff, just started in outposts, still have a few missions to complete on the main story.
I’m really letting it unfold slowly. A bit more than 40 hours in, I still haven’t finished a whole faction quest line, feel like I’m just scratching the surface of the main quest, customized a ship or two (barely), and haven’t even touched outpost building. I just keep finding random things that hold my attention.
I know it’s a completely different type of game, but it’s doing the same thing as Breath of the Wild did:
Send you in a vague direction, show you something interesting in the distance that distracts you, and give you something interesting and lore-filled along the way. I find myself several hours into a play session and I’ve completely forgotten about the quest I was doing, because I’m infiltrating some huge outpost connected to a giant underground area that I didn’t know was there.
I’m sure the experience will vary because of the procedural generation, but dang it all if it isn’t working PERFECTLY for me right now. I’m obsessed.
For anyone who isn’t gonna get hung up on the fact that it’s not No Man’s Sky, I highly recommend it.
@@dirzz How? I am 150 hours in and am still having a blast.
Jake, your videos are great. Out of all the video game outlets ur 1 of the few I follow and whose videos I actually look forward to. You don’t ramble, u speak from the heart and I think most of ur viewers see that 2. Enjoy the vids and takes, keep em comin.
Oblivion was always my #1 Bethesda title.
same
I think oblivion is the perfect mix of morrowind and Skyrim. I think morrowind is more in depth and Skyrim is super casual. But let’s be real the npc’s on oblivion are just as bad as the ones in starfield
Same. I wish I had as good of an experience going back to it as Jake did. Downloading the Shivering isles was the reason I signed up for Xbox live, but Bethesda RPGs don't age that well to me.
Skooma needs more
Maybe because we came up with the great Xbox 360. it’s blind nostalgia
Fallout 3 introduced me into the series.. I loved fallout 4 & Fallout NV also... Sci Fi and space settings really interest me and I've been loving Starfield despite it's flaws.. I've been kinda addicted to it tbh.. 😅
Same here
Likewise, Fallout 3 was my first entry into the BGS world. Haven't looked back since! 😊
Great video, dude. Bonus points for the shirt.
Love the reviews keep it up ❤
Sci-fi is definitely my favorite backdrop/setting, and ive always loved playing Elder Scrolls and Fallout. I can already tell that im going to be playing Starfield for longer than I've sunk into games like Skyrim and Fallout 4 combined.
I might literally put an entire year of life Into this game then...
My first Bethesda game and it blew me away. It's a 10/10 for me. I liked it so much I bought the Skyrim Anniversary edition plus downloaded Oblivion and Morrowind cause I want to experience more of that Bethesda magic.
Try Oblivion while you are at it!
If you're finished with those try Enderal, a Skyrim total conversion mod, and Fallout New Vegas.
I wish I could play those games for the first time again. Even though I never did much with magic every time I start up a new character I usually lose interest around level 15.
Awesome to see starfield making more people into bethesda fans. Excited for you to discover more, especially Skyrim since it’s my personal favorite bgs game and my favorite game of all time probably
Morrowind might be hard to get into just because of its age.
Oblivion is nostalgia for me too. The groups were well fleshed out. The story was interesting and had more impact. Being a vampire with night vision was chef kiss.
One thing Starfield really lacks is deep, complex and meaningful world-building, unlike The Elder Scrolls and Fallout.
Starfield feels familiar in a mundane way, and I think that hurts it a lot as a Bethesda game.
I don't know. There's the reason Earth is dead, Sol being a backwater that no one wants to be posted at, and the fact that Charles Dickens books are the most common now because everyone thought he was the author most needing preservation, so they stuffed ships full of his books when evacuating. So, many other earth books were lost or are incredibly rare. The lore is far deeper than I think most give credit.
@obyone878 Dont get me wrong! The lore is there, but it can't hold itself up when compared to how deep and rich the world of Fallout and Elder Scrolls are. For example with Elder Scrolls, I would spend hours just digging through the history of various races, political figures like Tiber Septim, and each of the gods themselves. While I am enjoying the lore of Starfield, it doesn't feel the same.
@@Kyyndle To be fair, Elder Scrolls and Fallout have had decades to build their lore. Nothing is just going to start out with the same level.
@obyone878 Oh for sure, but as consumers, we're still paying the same amount as ever. It's quite the downgrade.
@@Kyyndle I mean, if you don't want a new IP, that's fair, but something new is it's own worth. One cannot physically start something out with the same amount of lore as something decades old.
Never played Oblivion but as far as Starfield goes I'm totally in love with it
Please try it! It holds up.
Oblivion is fantastic you should definitely check it out!
As a dad that works full time, I love starfield cuz I can learn about the worlds a bit and do some missions at the end of my day!! Im really into it like I was with skyrim and oblivion!! Its not as good but it's hella fun still
You're awesome!! Keep doing what you're doing!
I missed Morrowind cause I was a hardcore MMO player at the time but I did catch Skyrim and I gotta say it was the same. So immersive and the depth was like living in an alternate world and it really captivated me. I'd like to feel that way about a game again someday.
There's a very stable Morrowind multiplayer mod, so it can be an MMO too!. Tes3mp
The opening of Starfield is nowhere near as engrossing as Skyrim, I was pretty dissapointed. I jumped right back into BG3
More Jake and more starfield, nice 👍
I'm over 100 hours in the game already. I think that speaks for itself. I love this game.
Yeah, you've poor taste and like engines that are 20 years old 😂
@@shogun0810it is a new engine they upgraded to Creation Engine 2
@@shogun0810 Nice grammar.
@roboc8369 My car has a 20 year old modified engine and it just works. Just like Bethesda games. My car and Starfield makes me happy. So your quality of taste don't have any value here. please tell me another open world, space opera, rpg, fps, that exist.
excited to hop into it some day, i really like what the modding scene did for fallout 4. i hope the same kind of high quality content gets made for this game too
Honestly, I thought the storylines were compelling and the gameplay loop might be the only one that keeps playing my same play through over and over again. The combat has a lot of depth and I have found my self switching play styles a lot. I understand some people’s frustration with space exploration, but I think if you had no expectations and went into this game you would have loved it ten times more than if you had these preconceived notions of what it was going to be like. I thought it was extremely cool how many dialogue options opened up once you joined all the factions and became starborn. Already it has changed my second play through like crazy and from what I’m hearing it will continue to change it in different ways many play through a later. The dialogue actually has some weight behind it as well the ryujin storyline for instance had my choices causing very different results because I decided to be evil and it had a tangible effect on the storyline in ways that I feel like is an improvement from previous Bethesda games. There is enough variety that I feel like I got more than my moneys worth and I would say it’s an amazing game. I also felt the side quest, much like you have said in your review, have a far more unique twist that I personally have loved and haven’t gotten bored of as quickly. Even with the dialogue quest where you talk to person A, then go back to person B etc. have been far more interesting due to the overall options for dialogue in general being more interesting. Overall I’m thrilled with it and I can only imagine what they do with dlc and mods are going to make my experience even better
Oblivion was my first Elder Scrolls game and it was fantastic! The missions where you're in Oblivion and it was like you're in hell was so cool I loved it
Really loving the faction quests. Dont let the haters get you down Jake. You're not crazy for liking starfield.
These are the best Bethesda has done. Totally amazing. I thought the game trulty hooks you when you start some of the factions. It feels completely different game when you get invested in those. It saved this game for me.
Bethesda games have always had a lot of defects but in the end they are so goddamn fun, and thats what it matters. It seems like people dont really like videogames more, they just like to talk about them
@@Emma_Z1 "it seems like people don't like video games anymore, they just like to talk about them" truer worda have never been spoken. People nowadays like rage bait regarding video games more than actually playing games
@@AndyGrouchBethesda’s Magnum Opus will always be Morrowind. But yea, I’m addicted to Starfield
@@Sevren_ Yes Morrowind was truly amazing. You got totally lost in that game. I still get some of the same fiilings with Starfield. I really like this game a lot, over 40hs in a week or so, thats a sign of a very good game.
Love hearing your insight Jake.
Jake, I’ve always enjoyed your work & videos & commentary on all kinds of games & topics and after watching this video I just have to say…seeing you in that superyakishop mummy tee has exceeded my appreciation 100X!!!! 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Having paid to play it 5 days early and having played it everyday since I can say I rerally like it. Despite the weird cloud syncing issue when I switched between my PC and Xbox it very stable for a Bethesda Release. I was really happy how little it holds your hand. Reminds me of Morrow wind
Microsoft money spent on influencers was well spent
Great thoughts! I am loving the game so far and I'm just grateful for video games to be honest! I'm also happy to be able to enjoy things. I feel like some people are so wired to hate on everything in the name of clickbait or having to give something a score, that it ultimately prevents them from going into something with the right mindset. At the end of the day, they are the ones missing out.
The thing is from people with your perspective there's no such thing as a bad game. But a lot of gamer's have standards for their games, and are upset when a company is given so much time and money to only produce half of what they're capable of...and then have the nerve to charge you full price...it's a little irritating, If that wasn't enough, there's also fanboys of said companies who enable this lazy money-hungry behavior and they don't care cause they'll take anything but the techinal gamer's are forced to downgrade because they want to appeal to the masses. it's not a always a hater-being negative thing.
@@justindaniels411What exactly are you so upset about though with Starfield? I had zero expectations of this game and only heard of it a few weeks ago so I’m just having a good time with it.
@@justindaniels411why are you putting words in their mouth, going into games with a positive mindset and not looking for problems to nit pick doesn’t mean you can’t think a game is bad…. And Starfield is FULL of handcrafted awesome content, to say it’s lazy just shows you haven’t played it, you don’t know what’s in the game, clearly.
@@ProjectMoff So you admit the game is bad? That's all I got from your sorry excuse
Great video as always, as for what’s next at Bethesda, I think that’s a really tricky line to walk for them and for the consumer. I think without doubt they’ll be focused on adding a ton new things to starfield.
Things I would love to see is vehicles like moon landers to make surveying planets easier and more fun. New DLC could be a ways off but would still be fun after I’ve finished the 6 million quests I’ve currently got in my log 😂
Where this could get very bad is if Bethesda decide to over monetise starfield and go down the Fallout 76 route with subscriptions for access to certain ships or weapons and resources. This is something the company has done before so why not in the most successful of their IP. It’s a scary thought so let’s hope that doesn’t unfold.
There is still plenty of good they will achieve without really trying with starfield, so in the short term the potential looks great.
Yep they need to avoid that or going in any online route that GTA:O did. That can kill DLCs or expansions faster than you can say "wallet"
I would never, I'm only 7hr in and I'm excited! Thanks jake always keep it real
Starfield is a good sandbox for them to expand on, and this also makes it great for mods. I'm sure we'll see Warhammer, Star wars, the Expanse and other being modded into this game.
It is also great for game industry, as devs will have more encourage to experiment with new titles.
While good sandbox, it's still not polished even after a delay, idk why people feel like it's okay to ignore that.
Just give me lightsabers already only, and i will be happy for 1 year xD
Yah! They can add something crazy and it will look like star citizens 😂
@@kamitorings in what way the game isnt polished?
Never played Morrowind and Oblivion, and Fallout 3 was my first Bethesda game, which I loved. It just felt special in so many ways. Discovering and exploring that world, which was familiar yet so different, was just magical.
I feel sorry that you've never played any good games if you think Fallout 3 is 'special'. Mid game at best, Fallout New Vegas and Fallout 2 are just better games.
At least you'll never be disappointed.
@@Badookum I never played 2 newvegas is great game
Fallout 3 I still had fun playing how great a game is a pov
If I remember correctly the starfield premium edition bundles states it comes with the “first” expansion which would imply they’re planning more than one. Looking forward to seeing where this game goes as someone hugely intrigued by space
Love the shirt and pad, Jakey. Your room reminds me of the Silent Hill 2 apartments.
It's weird - I've had almost exactly the same feelings, thoughts and experiences about Oblivion and Skyrim. I think it may have had a lot to do with the colour palette, the overall aesthetics, and the time of release. Oblivion was so revolutionary when it came out. My friends and I were really hyped to have a real HQ graphics (at the time) open world to go explore in. Skyrim feels like it looks a bit duller, and also didn't invent something new as much as Oblivion did.
However, we do disagree on the Fallout games. I think the Fallout games have been just a little bit more interesting and out there for me than the Elder Scrolls games have.
Anyway, I was thinking of all the little things they could add to starfield, like imagine you find find a ship floating in space, giving off creepy vibes, so you dock with it, and as you get on board, boom, mini survival horror mission, deadspace side mission...
Yes I've been thinking about this a lot - infested space hulks. Both random spawns and radiant salvage missions. All but guarantee someone will make it.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is abandoned space ship like that somewhere
I mean Mass Effect literally did that over a decade ago
Your rankings totally make sense lol, different from mine but I see what you like and don't like in these games. The crazy immersion in feelings, and setting and tone were huge in those top 3. All that stuff felt so new and fresh. For the most part the story basically let you do whatever you wanted to do. I feel like Skyrim in retrospect was the beginning of the new Bethesda.. where a lot of the core gameplay in choices the player had were stripped down to make it more of a big AAA game everyone could enjoy and when the game developers focused more on making things bigger rather than flushing out aspects of the story and gameplay.. but I'm with you. I see the flaws of starfield and yeah I'm having an awesome time playing it.. it's scratching that itch I have to play these type of games. Bought for me maybe this is my Skyrim because it doesn't feel like anything's been added to enhance it I personally enjoy. So far not a huge fan of The starship combat and I hate as an Xbox player trying to build outposts or my own ship.. it's just not my thing. I would have loved to see maybe vehicle so I'm not running on every planet.. and the fact that I'm basically going to small maps after small map and just fast traveling instead of being forced to travel the world and find things is kind of what's missing for me.. I miss having a quest marker and having to walk for a very far away and finding things along the way that aren't just a cave or whatnot
I love jake! Dude just loves games and doesn’t beat around the bush with certain things in games. Love you baldino!
Once you start playing the sidequests and factions, the lore in Starfield ia pretty solid. I could easily see them adding in a few alien species in Starfield 2 in Mass Effect style. Its exciting to see where they might take it
@@400thekiller233Same Its really silly doing the whole Star wars mass effect Thing for a game like This which is more grounded.
Already met a lot of aliens in Starfield. None intelligent but I'm good with that. Kinda sets the universe apart from other Sci-fi.
I have pretty much the same experience with Bethesda games, Morrowind GotY on Xbox was my intro to the series as well, and I think my rankings are the same as yours seeing as I also have a preference towards TES over Fallout. The only difference would be I would have to consider Oblivion and Morrowind dead tied for first. As far as the other TES games, I'd put ESO between Starfield and Skyrim (closer to Starfield than Skyrim, the same "tier" I suppose), Daggerfall right between FO4 and 76, and Arena at the very bottom.
As for potential starfield imo definitely could (And most likely) will surpass the other games through mods and potential dlc.
Dude, Jake, Oblivion is my fav too! You made my day, man! :)
Loving Starfiield, I can see me playing for many, many hours.
Did the mic boom arm draw anyone else's eyes? It was like I was intervewing Jake. 🤣
This game is gonna get all the love it deserves sooner as people discover more stuff
What if there isn’t more stuff. The planets are empty
@@BaronRosa I've actually yet to find a totally empty planet and I'm about to crack 100 hours lol
Agreed! when mod support arrives it will be a complete game changer!!
I guarantee we are going to get a myriad of custom voiced robot followers. They won't need to be voiced by people typically, and could make for some rockstar followers.@@James-ih2lb
@@BaronRosaThe planets are empty because Bethesda designed them to be empty. And even then, they're still not devoid of content. But most of the meat is in the settlements
The starfield lore they’ve done before with the colony war, terramorphs is super interesting and lots of potential
the UC Vanguard "hall of info dump" was awesome. really cool to see how things played out with the different factions. and it's funny because it's exactly how a museum like that would be set up
I 'd just like to see them to link the workstations and have workshop resource storage. Unlimited workshop resource storage. And make items you construct orient to your character, so minute adjustments can be made when placing them - rotating via mouse click isn't very precise. But yeah, I'm enjoying it.
Great video
Played 48 hours thus far and I love it. Feel like I’ve barely scratched the surface. I’m hooked.
With you Jake. Oblivion probably has to be my all time favorite Bethesda game too. I still have big love for the other classics up to Skyrim, but Oblivion was just so memorable and that DLC was amazing
I was so with you at the beginning my man. Oblivion will always hold a special place in my heart. But I can’t get behind your Skyrim placement 😮😮😮 that’s wild
I'm an Oblivion and F3 fanboy as well, and I'm missing the whole 'make your own story' feeling in Starfield. Being able to choose how you want to approach the game as a whole just isn't there in Starfield, it feels more restrictive like Fallout 4 when it comes to your own personal story. I cant see a difference between a trucker, a miner, a rogue, a bounty hunter, a pirate, there's just not enough distinction. You are who and what the game says you are, but then it doesn't fill that out with something significant. The world is a great place to build on but it's all so binary.
I am enjoying Starfield a lot. Talking about my most loved bethesda game, I think it has to be Morrowind.The release of that game shocked me, the graphics at the time.
I have very fond memories.
Yeah same. I remember printing a screenshot of my character cresting a hill just as a sandstorm was ending and the sun was setting, tacked it up on my wall where it stayed for years. I was such a nerd.
This game is awesome
Fallout 3 is my all time favorite Bethesda Game. I keep going back to it every few years and binge it. The rpg elements, the setting, and gameplay give me nostalgia of simpler times.
One thing that I loved about oblivion that I missed in other games including skyrim was the arena. That was one of the coolest things in the game and winning cool loot for passing each arena level. Every game like this should have an arena vs computer enemies in waves or however they like throw in bosses too. More arenas in rpg please. 😂
I really like the game, even from the jump I found it super interesting and I don't think games should be punished for need a few hours of coaxing you into the world. I see a lot of people where "if it takes 3-5 hours to get into the game it's not a good game" I couldn't disagree more. I had to start the witcher 3 like 5 times because it just starts off so slow, but once I grinded through it it's one of my top 5 of all time. So I do think that the beginning does limit you a bit I don't think anyone on the fence because of that should dismiss it. I'm having a ton of fun just exploring and stuff. 50 hours in and I haven't even gotten close to finishing the story yet. I'm just doin all kinds of things cuz it's fun.
RDR2 has a slow start, but everyone praises it.
Totally agree. I also don't really understand since their previous games are also pretty slow burns to start. Some initial excitement during the "tutorial" phase but they're pretty slow after for a good bit. I don't think the pirate attack, space fight and then Krete base clearing is "slower" than any of their other games
@@dkatomskinot nearly as brutal the farming in rd1
There are games out there to scratch almost any gaming itch. For me Starfield is one of those games. I love it, and can’t wait to dive in again tonight. The gradual ramp up is working for me, as my character progresses into the story and out into the universe, while I, playing the game, gets more confident in the game mechanics and more curious about the missions, worlds and stories revealed. And I AM TAKING ALL THE SANDWICHES!
Me too! And having fun is one of the best things about a good game.
See, the sad thing I noticed now is that despite Skyrim being one of my favorite games ever, I'll probably never be able to play vanilla Skyrim again after Starfield. Starfield has truly shined a light on how dated both Skyrim and Fallout 4 really are now. End of an era i guess 🙁
Who plays vanilla skyrim in the first place?😂 I haven’t played vanilla skyrim since Christmas 2011 on my old ps3
Lol and even Starfield isn’t really completely “up-to-date” with current standards.
@@seeseees2798 I do a vanilla run from time to time, specifically during Christmas lol. I dunno, just gives me that nostalgic feeling.
Jake's new place is looking goood!
Got 50+ hours so far and loving the kickas quests. The faction quests are insane
The faction quests are way better then the main story, it's not even close.
yeah, you get a lot of game for your money.
we've gotten much, much less content for the same price.
this is true
So far, I love it. Starfield is one of those games where, there’s always one more thing I wanna do before finally going to bed way to late. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. I find there’s a lot of times where it just looks flat, and half baked. Other times I’m like woah, look at that moon. However the story, and getting to know the characters, getting to know my own character is so fun and is far more important than any graphical complaint.
The problem with Starfield is the absolute lack of depth in the game world. After about 20 hours, you have pretty much seen everything there is outside of the story. It doesn't matter how much landmass/worlds there are, if "Abandoned Science Outpost" is the same on 72 different planets... down to the last synthfoam container.
@@jong2359 Honestly I agree eually to both comments, yours is the one I fear is my reaction to the game as well...I am somehat dissapointed that I feel like every planet is gonna be the same as the last in more ways than not. I think they should of stuck more to like a handful of planets and solar systems and have you explore and find new things on one planet at a time with an option to go back if you want (like in KOTOR). This whole procedural generation stuff is neat for sure, but kinda does ruin the emersion I've noticed
It's like a 7 to a 7.5 for me. So far the factions feel a lot stronger compared to the main story. I don't feel like the world building is as good as their older titles, Fallout & TES grabbed me way more.
Love the t-shirt my man
In terms of a game developed by Bethesda Games Studio, this is my first game of theirs. I’ve tried Skyrim and I’ve tried Fallout 4. Fallout New Vegas is top tier but that’s Obsidian. As for Starfield? Fantastic game. I’m loving it so much
"Skyrim and I’ve tried Fallout 4." both are Bethesda games studio games so that means starfield isn't your first mate.
@@iamcll TRIED. I played Skyrim for like 30 minutes and Fallout 4 for an hour. That’s about it. It’s like watching 10 minutes of Lord of The Rings and saying you’ve seen the trilogy
I'm 100 hours in and still really enjoying it. My biggest complaints are just the crashes and bugs. I had a ship glitch underneath the landing pad to the point where I can't use it anymore, and that was pretty frustrating. The crashing seems to get progressively worse as you get further into the game. It's crashing 1 or two times an hour on me now, and always an an inopportune time.
I was doing a stealth mission for riujuin industries and guards just kept randomly phasing trough the ground in front of me or they would teleport into the ducts I was crawling trough.
After getting spotted by bugged guards a bunch of times I just gave up and killed everyone in the building XD
I didn't have a single crash in my 90 hours, but I did have my ship disappear from the launch pad one time, but admittedly I alt-f4'd during an autosave
the performance is lackluster but I can enjoy the game regardless because I have a beefy PC.
Honestly I felt your review was fair and honest and not too harsh. You came in very objective and no agenda which makes it always a video to watch. Keep up the good work!
Jake, I love your T shirt dude ❤
I feel like I’m in the minority here since I played Skyrim and oblivion first, but morrowind is my absolute favorite Bethesda game and my favorite game of all time. There’s just something magical about the world and storytelling that I’ve never experienced in any other game ever. Not to mention I was only one year old when the game first released.
I've clocked in way more than 100 hours already and I am completely head over heels with this game. Can't remember the last time I felt like this. At age of almost 40 ( quiet.. ) I feel like, excited about this feeling with a video game cause I haven't felt that in a long ass time. Most games I was hyped about the past whole decade or so I felt let down by the end of the day. Not living up to expectations. This game just clicks in almost every way. Haven't lost my sleep about a game willingly and have to work with eyes swollen in so long that even that makes me excited to experience again! Crazy stuff.
lol, same boat, same age. last game i felt like this with was back in my kiddy days with Star Wars KOTR, absolute classic and find this quite similar but in a different sci-fi setting of course.
@@bjtm2309kotor was beautiful game to play. Specially if you're a star wars fan. I replayed and beat that game on Android phone.
As a fan of old Bethesda I really wanted more from this game as everyone else on the internet has pointed out. I could see how making a Sci fi game with an insanely vast universe and not even adding the simplest of Sci fi tropes like adding aliens or even space travel is very underwhelming. I think they had so much potential and fell extremely short. But what I like about it is that it's not trying to be the next big thing, just trying to be it's own thing
Dope shirt, dude.
I'd personally put Morrowind first, but otherwise, this is a completely based ranking. Jake really surprised me with this one. Man, I'm so curious about Starfield, but just not 70 dollars curious. I went way over budget buying games last month so I keep needing to actively convince myself not to buy Starfield for now. I honestly haven't cared for the last few Bethesda games, FO3, Skyrim, or FO4, and Starfield looks a lot like FO4 but in space with lots of fast traveling in place of exploration. For me, I think the time spent walking between points of interest of places for quests on the map was a good pacing tool, and the idea of just fast traveling to locations instead sounds kind of awful. I don't know. I'm conflicted, because I am super curious to check it out, but also know I probably won't love it, and it's so pricy. This is why I mostly play indies.
Very surprised at the lack of exploration
Are you kidding me? I'm overwhelmed with how much exploration there is dude
@@Dante-fb9ejdoesn't feel the same to me. You can't just walk off in a direction and have endless encounters and locations to discover.
@@freddiejones9987Well I've had a completely different experience than you. I explored about 15 minutes of ONE planet and I found landmarks, caves and even a pirate hideout. Not to mention the various alien wildlife. I really think it depends on what planet you land on. If you land on a desolate moon... That's what you're gonna get obviously 🤷♂️
@@freddiejones9987how much time do you have on your hands? for me to explore every point of interest on a single landing zone takes me hours already
There's definitely a lot of exploratory in this game and things to discover, so saying the game lacks exploration entirely is being a bit disingenuous. That being said, the exploration in this game is different from previous BGS games and may not be your taste
There are a few things in Starfield I don't like, but man, I can't get enough of fighting, looting and doing side quests. It is so much fun for me!
And I still can't wrap my head around how people act when someone likes something they do not😕
Most the people who don’t like it just simply don’t know what the game actually offers and so they misrepresent it or they are just going along with he hottest shit opinion of the moment to feel like they are a part of something
I’m a big Bethesda fan but I’m having a hard time with this slow start when Bsldur’s Gate is sitting there waiting for me
only about 15 hours in and i have to say, it is quickly becoming my favourite bethesda title. Ive only played Skyrim and fallout NV & 4 tho, but i feel like Bethesda really showed us their capabilities with this one and with creation engine 2, i cant wait to see what they do next
I'm unironically excited about sailing around for 5 hours in TESVI.
I am at 55 hrs, and it feels like I have barely started the game as my mission board is chocka and I am aware of many places I have not been to yet. I am no Bethesda fanboy, but yea despite some misleading advertising they have done well.
NV isnt BGS
@@StoneAgeWarfaremight not come out in our lifetime though
@@glockgotadick6193 thanks for pointing that out, I actually didn't even know that
I wish I could love starfield like their other games. But I just don’t. It doesn’t feel like a cohesive world to me like their other games. The feeling of exploration feels so janky because you have to fast travel everywhere.
I love Fallout 3 too. It's probably at the top of my Bethesda list. I wasn't familiar with the previous games or lore and I was just an instance fan. The cool retro 40s aesthetic, the great jazz music, the crazy future nuclear dystopia... it just checked all the boxes for me. Plus I loved the DC setting. My favorite setting for Fallout by far. Morrowind was also amazing. The ability to levitate through a mage tower was just one of the cool unique aspects of that game. I'm certainly remembering it through rose tinted glasses, but it was an incredible experience.
As a fallout 3 lover, do you recommend starfield?
@@Ahmetal Yes. I'm having a lot fun with Starfield. If you like Fallout 3 and you're a fan of space exploration, I think you'll find a lot to like.
I was 10 when Oblivion came out and that's what got me into BGS games. Although an oddity in art style and with the limitations of the Xbox 360-era, I also have the nostalgia goggles on when I go back and think about it. 100% would probably rank these the same
Midfield doesn’t have 6 million players. 5.5 million of these people downloaded the game from Xbox Gamepass for free. There’s less than 1 million concurrent players total between console and PC. I wanted this game to be good, but it’s incredibly shallow.
I am ABSOLUTELY loving Starfield
Oblivion was my first free roam rpg game. It was an AMAZING experience.
Jake, bro, Imma longtime Gameranx fan so I just love hearing ya talk games at this point🤷🏾♂️ The Starfield before you buy... Was fine haha I've been on it since the 1st in absolute lowest settings (besides ah few tweaks) because my laptop isn't upgraded like Todd Howard recently said I "should consider doing" 😕 I've ah 1650 and barely any RAM so yea, My Starfield experience in its entirety hasn't been great at all performance-while. New Atlantis, Akika City and HopeTown are particularly horrendous places to be for me, usually down to like 11-20 frames if I'm not moving in ah straight line 😅😂Don't get me started on The Hunter lmao But damn it, I have over 60 hours... and I'd recommend it to many many BGS fans who want the familiar BGS experience in a (literal) new universe. Aside from my own self induced torture (because honestly I can keep it near or bit above ah decent 30 fps in less traffic heavy systems) I've had one of the dopest experiences I've had in ah while! I keep getting surprised by new things like new random encounters on or off world and Seeing how conversations play out depending on my status (or if I'm Galactic Batman 😏). Some recycle sure but then mixing up the dialog options just to cause chaos is always great. I feel a lot of what made old elder Scrolls awesome to me was the almost necessary Roleplay factor EVERYONE secretly had running in their heads and Starfield feels like the ultimate (personal) roleplay game hahaha I too was ah fan of Oblivion gate diving some years after learning that just because I swing my sword, doesn't mean it hits 😂😂 Morrowind, yea
I appreciated the Favs Ranking off rip honestly, Always great comparing personal notes 🤘🏾 Was thinking about the years of rereleased last week as well 🤣 We all know they're coming! Switch 2 version is gonna fund Nintendo Marketplace the next 5 years post launch. Taking bets now 👌🏾