Switching From AGS to Adventure Creator in Unity Top 10 Reasons
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- čas přidán 19. 07. 2024
- Wondering if you should switch from AGS (Adventure Game Studio) to the new Adventure Creator Plug-in in Unity Game Engine 5.0? Here are my top 10 reasons why I made the switch. By Isaac Lundgren.
Music in the background from the upcoming Adventure Game, The Callahan Curse, composed by Isaac Lundgren. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
Adventure creator for Unity looks soooo goood and easy. It also has more potential then the Visionaire Studio Engine (that engine that Dedalic is using for Games like Edna and Deponia). Because it works together with Unity. So the possibilities are endless. And it supports allmost all type of Adventures -- 2d from old retro Pixel to highres) /2.5D and 3D Adventures (like Telltale) Very easy to learn. You only need about 2-3 Hours as a Newbe to learn how to do a classic 2D scene from scratch. Truly amazing stuff.
Is this engine possible to make a pre-rendered first-person walking scenes as in "the Neverhood" or "7th Guest"?
Just starting with Adventure Creator and Unity, thanks for the top 10 reasons to use it! I'll check out some of your other videos.
Love your Adventure Creator series. Thank you.
Great video, thanks for making it!
I bought Adventure Creator right before I used it, and watching this video makes me glad I bought it!
Man, The Callahan Curse is looking more and more beautiful and intriguing by the minute! I really can't wait to play it!
Jon Causith , Thanks so much for your comments Jon! I'm really happy with how the work is turning out, I wish I could work on it every day to help it be released sooner. :)
I'm sure you'll love Adventure Creator! I'm finding new things I love about it all the time! You'll get used to the new work flow pretty quick. :) (It'll take about 2 weeks or work to feel comfortable enough to work on your own projects, but after that, you'll love it more and more). :)
Brilliant! Just grabbed AC on 50% discount, and I'm so excited to get to it.
Congrats! Happy game designing! :)
This was really awesome Isaac! The project looks amazing!
James Bowles Thanks, man! :)
Very useful, thank you. I'm getting back into trying to learn game dev and feel overwhelmed by the engine choices, but I think I'll go back and probably stick with Unity. :)
I have both AGS and AC. But I used AGS to make my game. The reason AC has to many options and buttons to work with. It is a great plug-in I admit. But I prefer AGS. Maybe in time I get to learn and work with AC. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for the video, I remember seeing AC back when I wanted to make my first point-and-click and ended up with AGS. I love/d AGS, but now I use Unity regularly for work and home (but am terrible at coding) I think switching would be a great idea. Thanks again.
+RickiousProductions Glad you enjoyed the video! If you end up purchasing the program, head over to my CZcams page, I've recently made a getting started tutorial for AGS switchers. It's not as thorough as the official tutorial, but it helps with the learning curve, and give some tips for workflow. :)
+Isaac Lundgren Artist Composer, Thank you Isaac :)
As we speak I'm hammering out a game in AGS for a jam, and the deeper I get into it the more dated the program seems. I'm going to stick with AGS this time, because I'm aiming for an early 90s kind of thing anyway, but I'll definately look into AC for Unity for future projects.
The deeper and deeper I get into A/C, the more I love it... By the way, it's currently on sale for $39...!
Looks great! I've been experimenting with Adventure Creator myself and it feels like the way to go after AGS.
Datadog Yes, agreed! It's a major pain switching everything over... I had over 40 rooms done in AGS, and this summer I've only transfered over about 10 into Adventure Creator, but most of that reason is due to going back to the art assets and improving them, and separating each of the graphics elements to get them ready for parallax scrolling, etc. But the final product looks fantastic, with the cameras, depth and scrolling, so it's totally rewarding to go through the trouble and see everything improve so much. :)
Can't wait to see the final result! I'm sure after you finish enough rooms, the process will feel as natural as game-building in AGS (if not more so). I'm already very impressed with what the camera system can do. :)
Datadog Thanks Datadog, after Incinerations I can't wait to see what you do with it!
Parallax looks awesome in your game.
Thanks! Parallax is so easy to add too, as long as your background pieces are on their own layers... :)
I cover it in my new Adventure Game Creation Udemy Course (and lots more)...
www.udemy.com/2dadventuregame/?couponCode=ADVENTUREJAM10
wow. i remember AGS for the early 2000's
i just bougt your UDEMY course... im so excited, this could change my life 360 degree i will let you know if its happen and it will be happening :D
Thanks for the support! I hope you enjoy the course! :)
I just started a game using adventure creator.. it's easier and what you can do with it is endless. For instance the intro to my game is all first person and then player setup in third person. Then it goes point to click. Love this asset.
Agree 100%, it's a fantastic asset! :)
Great Plag-in! I switch my game on him.
Hi Isaac, this is a wonderful demo! Are you still happy with Adventure Creator? I am currently developing in Ren'Py a visual novel and have to say it is horrible to work in. I am thinking of switching to this plugin here since the features look great! Is it possible to do cutscenes for conversations? I have lots of instances where a conversation takes place in 1st person (text and an image) but navigation is in 3rd person like you have here. BTW your game looks beautiful!
Looks cool, but it costs like $70, and i'm thinking of starting to make games as a hobby, not professionally, so i'll stick to AGS for now since it's free.
It goes on sale occasionally for half price. For all the time I've saved with scene set up alone $70 is more than fair, even for hobbiest level. Though, I can totally understand needing to take the no budget route sometimes in life. :) Best wishes for your game. :)
Thanks, i haven't had time to start creating yet, but hopefully i can make something in this next vacation
do you do a lot of custom C# scripting or can you get by solely with the action editor of Adventure Creator? thanks for the video!
+moeljayer Thanks for your comment, with AGS I've done thousands of lines of scripting... since switching to Adventure Creator, I've done no scripting so far, all of my actions and interactions have been done with the action editor... I will say, coding wise, I am not as far along yet as I was in AGS (I've changed my focus to graphic elements), though it looks like I'll be able to get by just fine without any scripting.
+Isaac Lundgren Artist Composer Sounds promising, thanks for the Answer :)
+moeljayer No problem. :)
hello! I am just getting into creating my first adventure game ever. Should I use unity?
Did you make the art yourself? it looks really nice
+El rincon de obey , thanks! It's all my original work. :)
Isaac Lundgren Artist Composer How thats amazing. I bet doing all the animations for each angle is a pain in the ass
+El rincon de obey, thanks! Figuring out a process, and experimenting with a variety of assets was the most time consuming part. Now that I have some methods that work well for me, it's not too bad. I do have to create the character at all the angles (that part is time consuming), with all the body pieces on separate layers -- but after that, it's not too much trouble to set up a simple 2D bone rigging system, and animate movements "puppet style" with flash-based key frame movements (then export frames as PNGs). The animation software I used is meant for vector based art, but I find it still works well with richer raster based graphics as well (to get more depth and shading)... The end result mimics hand drawn 2D animation, but made in about a tenth of the time with all the benefits and shortcuts of bone rigging. :)
You can get a glimpse at the 2D bone rig system in this Adventure Creator tutorial I made earlier in the year.
m.czcams.com/video/1_CLWnDNNZA/video.html
It doesn't show you "how" to 2D bone rig, but you can at least catch a glimpse of the process in relation to this perticular character.
How much scripting & coding would be required if you want to implement RPG elemnts into adventure creator? Vanilla Unity requires huge amount of script for rpg stuffs it seems.
Hello Sekai, that would be a good question to ask on the Adventure Creator forums! I haven't had any experience making a game with RPG elements, but I'm sure there will be someone on the forums who can give you some input.
Isaac
Have you tried using 2D skeletal animations (made with Spine, Moho, Anima2d etc.) for your characters? Do they work well with AC? Are there any limitations animators should be aware of?
Hi Deadomen, all of my character animations are done with bone rigging and key frame animated with Moho Studio (pervious version Anime Studio Pro). I export the frames as PNG's before bringing them into Unity, and they work great! :)
I'll be covering this (along with many other asset creation topics) in my Adventure Game creation course on Udemy, it's not out yet, but I will make an announcement video here on CZcams when it is ready...
Aren't those usually exported in JSON or FBX format? I have been looking around different options for animating my characters and Spine seems to be the most popular option, but AC and Spine integration documentation is outdated. The latest comment, in AC forum, was from July that someone is, perhaps, working on it.
I haven't used JSON or FBX formats before... not sure what benefit it would add to go that route... I do know, if your graphics are rastor based, they really can be animated in anyway you like, and then exported from the animation program and brought into Unity as separate sprites/frames... try looking at my Adventure Creator 2D game getting started tutorial (here on CZcams). It will give you a glimpse as to how the frames are brought in to Unity/ Adventure Creator... (I've only ever brought sprites/ frames in as PNG's, I do know they can take other formats, just haven't tried other formats since PNGs have been working great for me).
FBX is vector format and PNG is pixel format. If you have multiple animations, FBX file would be smaller and having better performance, at least what I have read. Moho's feature list also suggest FBX format for Unity game developers on their site. Not sure about the benefits of having JSON, but most tools are using that format.
What are the conditions for selling such a game ?.I mean you use Unity and this Plug-In that costs like 70 bucks.
It looks very interesting , I'm also keeping an eye on Visionaire Studio as an alternative to AGS.
+Somnivers The personal edition of Unity is free, which allows to create and sell your game, however once you reach $100k in sales they require you to purchase the professional edition of Unity... Can't remember the price on that - I believe it's in the low thousands. It's a fair model for indi-developers, giving them a chance to utilize the software and not taking a cut until it reaches a certain point in sales. I believe Adventure Creator is comparable to Visionaire Studio... Haven't used it, but from what I've seen/ read, they seem fairly similar.
@@ArtistComposer I really like this idea, of paying Unity only when you've made money from using it. It's very fair.
Do you have any experience in visionair studio
how do you compare it to adventure creator
I don't have any experience with Visionair Studio personally, but from the little bit of research I've done in the past, the concepts with visual-based scripting should be pretty similar.
One advantage with Adventure Creator, since it is a Plug-In to the Unity Game Engine, it can take advantage of everything else Unity has to offer... Such as Unity staying up-to-date with being able to export to the latest operating systems, and being able to work with many other 3rd party plug-ins and content packs that other contributors/ developers create for the Unity ecosystem. :)
I'm curious how much coding experience I would need for this plugin?
Zero!
Although logical thinking in general will help you design a great game, you can create an entire game from start to finish without typing a single line of code! Check out some of my other Adventure Creator getting started tutorial videos to see the visual node-based scripting in action.
The editor does allow you to type out custom code/ scripts for even more minute control of the game, for me primarily as a visual artist, I have only used the visual node-based scripting and have found it more than adequate, and quite fast once you get used to navigating the drop-down menus.
Hope that helps,
Isaac
Can you make a tutorial for 3d also? Adventure creator already has one but it's bit outdated 😅. So if you got time then please make a 3d tutorial using Adventure creator
Sorry, I haven't done a lot with 3D in Adventure Creator... I wouldn't have enough experience to make a 3D tutorial for it. Having watched the official 3D tutorials (years ago), it seems like much of the work flow is the same, except for the handful of practices that are specific to 3D.
@@ArtistComposer thank you for a quick reply.
@@mukulkataria9128 No problem, good timing, I'm up late working on my game. :)
Sorry to bother you :) I'm just starting a new game... I love AGS, however, there are a lot of things that annoys me, namely the limited/non-intuitive way of animating stuff, changing or centering frames, its GUI, etc... so I was wondering if you could answered me some questions: 1st: Can I play videos with Adventure Creator? Can I loop a video, in different layers, in a room such as a river, or the clouds of the sky, easy, with the number of frames I desire? If I would perform a lot of zoom ins, what base resolution should I use? Is 720p enough? If I use objects in bigger resolution can I just change its size as I need it, easy? Is it easy to do different idle views, and speaking views, as it is with AGS? Is it easy to change the frames of a character animation, in the Adventure creator, if it is just a matter of centering the frames, without having to go to photoshop? Finally, Can I do all the some stuff I do with AGS, but more easier? Thanks :)
Hello, Iboymusic, check out my other CZcams videos covering different aspects of Adventure Creator, I think it will answer many of your questions. I also have a Udemy course covering 2D Adventure Game creation... Adventure Creator is featured in a few of the sections in that course (I can send you a link and coupon code if you are interested).
Adventure Creator has a bit of a learning curve, but once you’re over the curve it is a fantastic program, and takes full advantage of the Unity game engine. Personally I love using Adventure Creator, and find it much more intuitive than AGS, though if you are VERY familiar with AGS, you’ll have to “un-learn” a few ideas/concepts and be open minded about doing similar things in new ways. Personally I feel like I have so much more freedom putting a scene (room) together than with AGS, and I have never felt limited when trying to bring in new ideas into my game... at this point I would NEVER consider going back to AGS... I just love A/C way too much for that.
@@ArtistComposer thanks... I'm not that familiar with AGS. I just want to bee able to do things more easier and also with more freedom, because I'm used to video... Please send me the link. One decisive factor to change is video tutorials :) Is your course with video tutorials? Please send me the link... Do you have videos in a course where you explain "everything" about AC?
Sorry, I stepped away from my email for a bit. I put the link in your other inquiry, but here it is again here...
www.udemy.com/course/2dadventuregame/?couponCode=IBOYMUSIC
Yes, all video lessons. Does not cover EVERYTHING for Adventure Creator, but should be enough to give you a very big start. :)
@@ArtistComposer I plan to use a lot of videos, is it easy to play a Mp4, without coding?
I personally have not done that in AC before, but if Unity will allow it, then A/C can do it... you may want to do a quick search on the Unity website before you commit. But, it shouldn’t be a problem.
the big draw back here is that ags has been around for decades! inwhich your find your experience with it to be a better one.
One thing that makes me hesitate is the BANDWIDTH.. the bloat with Unity. That is making me hesitant to buy Adventure Creator.
I have just last week downloaded Unity and Bought the Adventure Creator (which by the way A.C is $70 USD or 75 Euros making it more expensive in uk than usa, AGS is free) and I have to say, I'm sure once I get the hang of this I will be glad I made the switch but, personally I am finding this infinitely more complicated to use than AGS.I'm actually finding it very frustrating that I have spent so much time trying to learn how to use this and accomplished so very little results.I find myself following tutorials but completely confused about what i'm doing so If you are looking for a simple to use program I do not recommend this!I will of course persist and update this comment once I have finally cracked what it all means.
+Pickle's Productions, it's a big learning curve coming from AGS... It took me two weeks to wrap my brain around the "new" way of doing things, and getting used to Unity... I must have went through the 2D game tutorial 6 times (pausing and rewinding constantly) before I felt comfortable working on any of my own projects..... But... After all of that, if you stick with it, you will love it, after 2 weeks I realized I would never look back at AGS, and was so excited with what Adventure Creator had to offer... Also, Chris Burton (the creator) is very active on the adventure creator forms, and many of the users are very supportive there when you run into a snag... I know what you're going through though, after my first day I thought the same thing, "Did I just waste $70?" Stick with it, give it the full two weeks of your attention, go through the 1.5 hour 2D game tutorial over and over until you get the confidence to start using your own graphical assets, I promise at that point, you'll love the program. :) (No I am not getting paid to write endorsements, I just love the program that much).
Thanks for the encouragement, I will of course persist with it until I get it.
+Isaac Lundgren Artist Composer Have you considered doing video tutorials for Adventure Creator? Chris Burton has one video and that is all I can seem to find.
Yes, I have considered, and I still may do one. I was wanting to do one last Summer, and ended up making this top-10 video instead. I think I decided against it since I was so new to the software, and would've been fumbling through the tutorial... I still don't know as much as I would like before making a tutorial, though, perhaps I know enough to help people get started on the right track - like a continuation of where to begin after completing Chris Burton's tutorial...
that would be awesome!
How exactly are you comparing a free tool with something that costs 71 Eur right out the gate?
At the time of this video, AGS was the only reputable option to create adventure games... this video was made to show others who have only known AGS, that there indeed was another option, and it had a lot to offer. As for being able to compare something free to something that has a cost... the amount of time and frustration saved for me by switching to Adventure Creator easily makes up the 71 Eur cost a hundred times over... I am glad the creator of the software is being paid, he deserves to be so, it’s excellent. :)
But if “free” is the number one consideration for someone’s project, then by all means, AGS is the way to go! :)
traitors?
For me it looks to overloaded and not beginner friendly. I prefer Visionaire studio.
But maybe in 8 years change many - i can say thant only for what i have saw here.