1969 Corvette 427 L88 vs 1968 Dodge Super Bee 426 Hemi - Pure Stock Drag Race
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- 1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427 L88 vs 1968 Dodge Super Bee 426 Hemi (Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race)
First you have the legendary Hemi in a 1968 Dodge Super Bee breathing 425 horsepower from the legendary 426 ci HEMI. Then throw that against a 1969 Corvette... but not just any Corvette... a Corvette with a L88 427 making 430 horsepower. I don't think I could ever thank both of these owners enough for actually bringing out these cars and racing them. What a rare match-up!
Remember, these cars participate in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race series, so check them out on fb and also their website. Here are the rules:
For 1955 to 1979 musclecars built in United States and Canadian assembly plants with a minimum warranty of 12 months and 12,000 miles.
Any car running faster than 11.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Any convertible running faster then 13.50 will be disqualified and will not have a qualifying time recorded.
Casting numbers must be correct for the year and horsepower claimed including intake manifold, heads, and exhaust manifolds. Blocks do not have to be "numbers matching," but they must be the correct displacement. Overbores up to .070" are allowed. Stock cranks only.
All Engines - 1.5 extra points allowed over advertised.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed.
The valve train must be factory stock for the year, make, and horsepower claimed.
The ignition system must be stock, including the distributor, cap, coil, and wires. Points may be replaced with any electronic conversion that fits under the stock distributor cap.
The carburetor must be correct for the year, make, and horsepower claimed. Jetting and metering changes are permitted. THE CHOKE ASSEMBLY MUST BE IN PLACE AND FUNCTIONAL!
Cast-iron exhaust manifolds are mandatory and must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed. Internal modifications to the exhaust manifolds are NOT allowed. Under no circumstances will headers be allowed, including those cars that came with headers delivered in the trunk. Pipes must be routed as they were originally for the year, make, model, and engine combination. Mufflers must be stock looking in design, that is, oval in shape. No glasspacks or straight pipes allowed unless installed as original equipment. Maximum muffler inlet and outlet size is 2.5 inches. X & H pipes allowed.
The radiator must be correct for the year, make, model, and horsepower claimed. No lightweight, aluminum radiators allowed.
The camshaft must be correct for the year, model, and horsepower claimed for the type of lifter (hydraulic or solid). Roller cams NOT allowed. Duration at .050" lobe lift must be within 1% of factory specs. Lift at the valve must be within 2% of factory specs. Maximum stall limited to 2200 rpm.
The transmission must be correct for year, make, model and engine of the car. 3-speed manuals may be upgraded to the correct 4-speed if originally available.
The rear axle must be of the same manufacturer as the car. Any gear ratio is allowed.
Reproduction tires or radial tires only.You are allowed to run tires one size over stock.
Factory wheels only.
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just to make clear to everyone,, the superb ee is a .030 over bore, .015 stroke 11.5 compression, .480 lift at the valve Legal engine according to pure stock rules. It has made 715 horse power on the dyno with exhaust manifolds. It is the fastest pure stocker. it has ran as quick as 10.87 at 129 mph. The car has 250lbs of ballistic for this race. No wheel spin , and I am playing with the L88 at the finish line . Just enough to stay ahead. I should know , I built it for Rick Mahoney from PA. I'm not a true Mopar man ,, but performance like this can not be ignored! I've been around drag racing my entire life. I've learned that they all can be amazingly fast if you know what you are doing. Scott Tiemann Supercar Specialties
Glad to see you found the video, Scott! I’ll pin your comment so everyone can see it.
Awesome to get the background info from the source.
Thanks for video guy's!!
Soooooo, this wasn't truly stock vs stock?
@@bradleyvantassal8328 - sooooooo, you still don’t understand that Pure Stock is a class of dragracing and they allow modifications?
@@robvoyles - Since you're too dense to understand, what I'm saying is these cars race in the Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Racing series. They allow mods... just like the NHRA Pure Stock class did in the past. If you don't like the name, then maybe go cry to the NHRA because they originally named it. Moron.
The fun of this class, is working within the rules and/or seeing what you can get away with. It's very old school style drag racing.
Beautiful 68 Hemi Bee! And it's running a full two seconds faster then they did from the factory! Pure stock, well not quite, LOL. And those 427 Vette's ain't no joke either. They always run well. LOVE these "Pure Stock" races and I always route for the underdog which isn't clear with this race. Keep up the good work!!
You should see these cars in person! The GTX is flawless. And they're Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag racers (they're allowed some minor mods)
@@CarsAndZebras Always wanted to go to one of these races, my local track LVD in NY only has the "FAST" races which I should probably check out. Thanks for the vids!
You understand
The 427 runs "well" it was false rated for insurance purposes. Not street legal if it was 500+ horsepower. It was closer to 600
@@topenddean 11s were attainable in stock form?????? If that is true then please explain why the BEST NHRA SS of the late 60s were just barely in the 11s........I love it when people claim that STOCK cars were faster than NHRA record holders in their day.
I had the privilege of Detailing a New Super 🐝 back in the Day at a Dodge dealership .it was Yellow... trimmed out in White.with white interior... not sure the size of the Motor But had Three Duces...its Was Beautiful...Got my Frist used 🚗 there also..... It was A 69 Mach 1..351 Cleveland... Built....Thank you Mr Jimmy Reidman Motors...
Probably a 440 if it had 3 deuces on it
The BEE is my favorite car of all time I use to own a 69 back in the day had to sell for kid stuff. Damn good to see this beautifully blue stinger RUN
Old school muscle cars. Got to love them!:)
No doubt. Nothing better!
Ya
I'm a Chevy man but not totally .... But anytime a Corvette gets beat ... well it makes my day 😎
Classic muscle!
They just don't make em like that anymore!
What a great Era for muscle car enthusiasts.
The 120 mph on the vette is real fast. Fastest mph I have ever seen on a stock car.
Yes, a very impressive trap speed, I must concur.
The super bee was playing with that corvette at the end
@@taylorpinkney7253 yeah 720 hp ( built Hemi ) vs 580 hp and the L88 Vette still gave the Hemi Bee a close race. That's how badass the L88 was 🏁
@@davegeisler7802 both engines in those cars are built and the fact the that the dodge is a bigger and heavier car out ran the smaller lighter l88 car just shows how badass the hemis are
@@taylorpinkney7253 no doubt about it didnt know the L88 was built , didnt see anything about that in the description, other than the Hemi putting out 715 hp ,the Vette is still giving up well over a 100 hp even built as you say and still gave the Bee a good race and stock for stock the Hemi vs L88 is a drivers race
I keep seeing this in my reccomends. I knew the legendary Hemi will win, but that rare 427 L88 sure packed a punch in the top end!
The Vette is making good power to have 15 mph over the Dodge at the lights. That Mopar was set up nice to launch that well.
The Vette was coming hard on the big end , but the Mopar let off ... so 🤔
Well yes but 700 lbs lighter helps !!!
The superbee made 715 hp on dyno and its fastest run is 10.87 at 130mph. It's the most hp from a na engine. He's clearly playing with the little vette😂.
@@GolfInHawaii69 105 and 108 is a long way from 130. Did they have gale force tail winds that day or ? The Corvette clearly was making more power but the Mopar hooked up better. Have a nice day!
@@zone47 He let off at the end. I seen from another comment that the superbee made 715hp with a number of engine mods. Maybe this was beforehand idk. But it did seem like the superbee let off alot.
that L88 trap speed was amazing wow
Roger Kremer it says the light turned green and he sat there almost 2 seconds after it turned green is what it tells me
Read the very first comment.....it is by the Hemi driver.....he admits he was only playing with the Corvette at the top end....in other words he let OFF and just stayed JUST AHEAD of the vette. Hence the much lower trap speed. Had the Hemi stayed in it the times would have been much much much wider apart.
@@davegeisler7802 The drag car is geared to top out near where it's trapping here. It would need a high rear gear to hit 170
@@gregallen9065 and he's full of it. The only hemis that made that kind of power were ran on nitro methane. And I've seen cars run mid 10's on the mph the 'vette trapped.
@@keithqueen352 no he is not that super bee is a mid 10 second car. He let off of the gas to keep from being disqualified from the race. In pure stock you cannot go faster than 11.50 et or you will be disqualified. I have seen this car race at my home track at Maryland international raceway and it was easily running mid 10s and it is not running on nitro methane. You are not allowed to run nitro in this class. So what are you talking about 🤔
Great racing! Absolute shining example of Brute Force pushing a box through the air! Both running mid elevens but roughly 17 miles an hour speed difference!!
Hemi driver said he let up and just stayed ahead of the vette at the top end......hemi car here is much much faster than the vette here in this race. Not all vettes are this slow though.
@@gregallen9065 It's not the Vette that's slow at all. It still ran mid 11s at 120+mph. The Hemi was built for racing and actually had to use ballast weight to qualify to run in this class, which should have disqualified it.
Theres nothing like the gathering of classic Hot Rod Muscle cars.
The 4.10 gears surely helped the Hemi jumping ahead. Although it's obviously a fire-breather of an engine, a true powerplant, it's known for not having as much pull at low-rpm as other big blocks, like the 440-ci RB cousin both in Magnum and Six Pack/Barrel forms...but once it builds up the revs, few engines can catch up with it. That thing is indeed a track monster, built for speed solely.
Thats a driver, and or tire issue. That corvette with traction would lay a beat down on that super bee. The super bee is setup like crazy to run 11's with that slow of a trap speed.
Did you miss that the Corvette had 4.56's?
The dodges rule who wants a vette..not me
@@mcm95403 I legit had, I was too focused on the Dodge to pay full attention to the data on the Vette, lol!
No milow. I never did like em fiberglass junk and no there actually cheaper than a Hein or 426 I hit 500 ooo On a lottery ticket two yrs ago still not a vette. Person tho mopar. Rules so deep down u know that he'll. A 340 magnum dodge demon will eat a vette. And that's real shit. Talk about light lol bam 😀😂😂😂😂😂😳😳😳
The class requires a CRAPPY tire. This video does a GREAT JOB of showing a big reason for Chysler Success back in the day. For what-ever reason a lot of MOPARs were set up to "hook" better. In this race it's really obvious that Corvette is the much faster car but the inability to the power down vs the Dodge is a great example of why chasis set up is everything. More power won't help if you can't put it down. Allow slicks in this race and it wouldn't even be close.......the Corvette is very obviously the much more powerful and faster ride between these two cars.
All the excuses in the world don't win the race, coulda, shoulda, woulda
@@bryanmurphy178 Excuses are not nothing beats L88 Corvette unless the driver is a slouch or something else is up because I've seen them smoke every other hemi on here
@@bryanmurphy178 Excuses? What are you talking about? This is DRAG RACING!! The winner of the race has the better set up for this race. There are no excuses here. Re-read. "chassis set up is everything". This is stock class racing. The tires required only highlight the advantage the SLOWER Hemi powered Dodge has perfectly. It's in the chassis set up. Those final speed numbers tell the story of an advantage off the line that the FASTER Corvette can't make up before the end of a 1/4 mile.
@@GH-el9ch And the chevy lover is butt hurt cause a vette gets beat, happens all the time my friend
@@Dogboy1960 What are you talking about, sour grapes because the Vette lost is it, the only thing that counts is who won and in this case it was the hemi, quit making excuses, the hemi won simple, should have, would have, could have, blah blah blah at the end of the day the Hemi has the better time slip
Wow !!!!! This is BY FAR THE BEST video ever that I have seen on this channel !!! No stupid commentary !!! No talking at all ........ just racing. The cars were amazing too !!
So let me make sure I got this right. You complain about the other videos but obviously keep watching them. Dumbass. Haven't figured out fast forward grandpa? Technology today is crazy.
That Vette had some Serious Top End Speed, Looking like he had a little trouble coming off the line.
Bad Ass 6.0 Powerstroke its a 10:40 -10:50 car its on a throttle stop to run on a stock eliminator 11:50 index it needs about 10k worth of safety equipment every 4 years if he wants it to go fast all the time not many women enjoy winding and wrapping themselves around a roll cage to get into a car
I’m wondering how the Vette pulled so hard in the traps. 4:56 gears? Seriously, a Hemi will outpull everything else on top end, especially with that slightly tighter gear set. Great matchup, though. Hard to tell with those differing setups.
@@easygoing2479, listen again. The only reason the HEMI driver ran 13 mph less is because he let off the gas both times.
Naomi Sharpe 😁
@@steve19745 Throttle Stops aren't Legal in Stock Eliminator.
11.5X at 105.78? That's some crazy low mph for that ET. That is one efficient drag racing set up.
Mike StClair I was just about to post the same comment. I don’t ever recall seeing a mid 11 et with that low a mph.
Edit: he’s letting off at the end to stay above 11.50
@@MarkNOTW Would like to see his 60ft time.
I literally was about to say the same thing ! Either score board was broke or he’s letting off. Haha
Both cars can break out. The Hemi was lifting, the vette was struggling off the line and trying to chase the Hemi down.
You can literally hear the hemi lift
Cool stuff, very nice cars, reminds me of the 70s and 80s. Thanks for posting, you always have great content. 👍👍🏁🏁
Two tough rides! I think the Bee with the auto trans had the advantage as a 4 spd with smaller tires is more difficult to handle out of the gate. The L88 had some serious top end speed compared to the Bee.
The Hemi was off the gas early
I love these videos I’ve owned 3 original Hemi cars and 1 all original a12 440 six pak I out ran all built gm and ford cars every weekend. That’s why gm and ford fans hate Mopar and have banned the Hemi 49 times now. Racing is cheating if your a ford or gm fan, that’s why the Hemi stands alone and has shattered every world record since 1940
The best high performance engine ever designed. That's why so many drag racers are still using 392 and 426 Hemi's even to this day. And the 392 Hemi hasn't been in production since 1958 or 59. I mean the real 392 Hemi...not the one in the newer Challengers that isn't even really a Hemi head design
Had Ford campaigned the 427 soch like Chrysler did the Hemi , the hemi would be a distant memory. Talk about cheating Chrysler bought the Hemi design it is not their own design it goes way back to motorcycles and WWII airplanes. At least GM and Ford made their own designs
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427 CAMMER . That’s all that need to be said .
My L88 4 speed with only exhaust, a tune and a Hayes high speed ceramic clutch got 4 trophies. The driver makes all the difference.
Great Cars! I own a 2004 Z06 Commemorative Corvette that I bought new. I have owned three 440 Magnum Mopars and a 340 but never a Hemi. I have only driven them. Excellent. Thanks
Very cool! My uncle bought a 1969 SuperBee 440 6 pack 4 speed when he came home from Vietnam. It was red and white with a white interior. He used to give me rides to school in that car!
Can't find a video, perhaps someone can link one, looking for a fair-matched Hemi auto vs Hemi 4sp
That L88 is fast the driver needs to practice his lights bad reaction times
Definitely was a lot faster look at his trap speeds
That sound...
@@amordeweso, bottom line. Who won?
Marlon Medina vette 😂
@@amordeweso, bzzzzt! Wrong answer!
Every car manufacturer was on FIRE in the late 60s man. Those cars are just unbeatable as far as looks go if you ask me. Beauriful cars
I've liked every video I've seen on this channel so far
11.60s @105 ha he's totally letting off at the traps!
Was thinking the same thing,mid 11.00 second ET and 105 is way too low MPH, Both runs looked like he was afraid of going too fast.
He let off , that Hemi was built and still the L88 was right there on the big end. The Mopar was putting out way past 700 hp and the L88 was probably making 560 hp
You can't get any cooler than that.
Very true 😎
Man, what a clash of titans. The only thing better would’ve been a Hurst Hemi Dart/Barracuda and a ZL1 Corvette. Amazing. Lots of today’s fastest cars can’t do what these things did 50 years ago on a dragstrip.
Cool races! So evenly matched, driver mod FTW!
Good race of some fine classics... But I use to race mopars when I was younger... You can have the gears and horsepower and match it up for the 1/4 or 1/8 of a mile ,, but if you can’t get it off the line ,, it won’t do you any good ,, so , speed is all you got ... Great race though....
Thanks for watching!
You got to love drag racing to take you $200,000+ Hemi Superbee to the drag races and step on it. On the other hand, those Hemi’s performed best at higher speeds.
What's even crazier is that a gentlemen blew the engine on his 1970 Hemi Cuda in time trials last year. Think about how much that car is worth.... nuts
@@CarsAndZebras that sucks cause he would have won alot of races
I believe he did find a replacement engine
That's a three-quarters of a million Corvette, at least.
Yes they did. They were originally designed for NASCAR but also turned out to be an awesome powerplant for drag racing. The old 392 Hemi of the late 50s is a great engine for drag racing too
the l88 was actually 560 hp, chevy under advertised because they only wanted people who would be racing them to buy them. they now sell for over 500k
Just when we thought the Muscle Car Wars were over.... Pure Stock Drag Racing comes along. Long live Detroit Muscle.
Nice matchup. I had a 69 Vette that looked like that but mine was 350-350 4speed. Guy I knew had a Chevelle SS396 4speed. If I remember right it was a 69. He wanted to race but never liked the outcome.I enjoy your vids. I think the term pure stock on these might be slightly off by the times they are posting. lol
Thanks for sharing! They're actually Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag racers. They have a list of minor modifications they can use.
To turn those type of times in a dinosaur those definitely aren’t minor modifications
They’re built race cars
@@kos2318 they are pure stock in order for you to race in that class your car has to be stock. They are pretty strict on modifications and what you can get away with
Steve Kostura Both cars had aggressive differential gearing, which was an option for the muscle cars. Those gears on stock cars of that era could be VERY fast The Dodge had a common 4.10. My stock, 1970 Z-28 also had 4.10s. The 'Vette had a more extreme 4.56. While great for drag, these cars did not have overdrive and were terrible for highway driving. Just cruising 60mph, these engines are screaming along, and gulping gas.
Dodge was a few hundred lbs heavier than the fiber glassed Vette but the Vette was catching up fast.
Google says the Corvette weighed 3200#. The Hemi SB weighed 4100#. Plus the 250# ballast the driver described in the pinned post.
I was wondering why that Bee spanked that Vette so bad, stock for stock it had all the advantages, but that Bee is something special
Very nice video. Just subscribed.
That Corvette was killing it in the trap speed!
That was an Awesome Pair of Cars.....So Close...the best type of Drag Racing ....11.50s on bias plys....lol. Pure Stock my Ass...!
🤣😂🤣 ..
By far your vids are my favorites. They remind me of SIR in Seattle (nowhere near that sh*thole thank God), Puyallup Raceway off 160th and Meridian and Spokane International in the late 60's-1984. What a great time to drag race!
Thanks for watching!
I like this and would love to go see this one day!
Got to love a Dodge Hemi!!
How about THIS match-up?!?!? Two absolutely awesome cars. The Hemi takes off like a rocket, but that Corvette was catching up pretty fast at the end. Add an extra 100 ft and the Corvette would have taken the win. You can't ask for a better race!
The Superbee lifted. The L88 is not in the Hemi’s league.
Doubt it. Maybe another 1320. 😊
How much more does the all steel mopar weigh. Yeah that's what I thought . Duhhhh
Brad Hardy Listen to it. You can hear the Hemi lift. Nothing personal. I am a big fan of the Vette. The Hemi is better.
@@jonathanbachman2339 I've been a mopar man all my life . Nothing better .
Like the man said with the Super Bee he was toying with the vet but you got to give it to that vet that top-end through the traps is amazing
The The Super Bee has been is not Stock.
That was a good race ! When you think about it , a Corvette is not a Muscle Car , it is by definition a Sports Car , only 2 seats and body is Fiberglass , but I still love seeing them goooooooooooooo!
I'd take the Mopar. That dude 's reaction time kicks ass.
Definitely a good driver and a quick car. I've got footage of it running nearly an 11 flat. Can't do that at the Pure Stocks though, they kick you out if running under 11.5
No you won't that vette would kill you in the twisties! ... By the way the vette needs a better driver. Anyway the big chevy only needs 1X4 barrel carburetion to go against the hemi with 2X4 carburetion. Never challenge a road race vette.... They are just letting you mopar guys feel good....
@@hilleryclifford2367 whatever helps you sleep at night lmao. Mopar has been the name of the game since the 50s, sorry not sorry the Vette and Chevy came in 2nd place yet again LOL
@@hilleryclifford2367 People like you are so fucking annoying. No one said the Corvette wasn't good in corners so don't get you little ding dong in a knot.
The TorqueFlite wins the day! Engines were pumpin' about the same ponies, so it came down to shift efficiency and that big, cast-iron automatic pulled through, the driver just stomped the GO pedal and held on. lol My father briefly owned an L-88 Vette and it was an amazing car, but my Mother was having none of it and Pop traded it for his '67 Chevelle that he installed a Rochester fuel injection unit and drag raced it quite successfully; he said folk just didn't understand the units. I think his real edge was the port work he did on his heads. He spent two weekends w/ a set of vernier calipers, a die grinder and a 100cc buret, checking and re-checking volumes and measurements in the intake/exhaust ports and the combustion chambers. I never saw that solid lifter 327 beaten, over two summers. I got to help him rebuild that engine after the first summer. What a blast!
I believe the TorqueFlite was the first auto to actually run faster than the manuals. That specific Super Bee can run near an 11 flat pretty easily... you'll see that in a future video
Not sleeping at the light wind the day is more like it
@@GH-el9ch ???
Not too many cars could beat an L88 Vette stock during that era , lets be real !!!
No they weren’t , the Bee was built putting out 720 hp vs 580 hp for the L88 , are you using new math 🤔
Crazy good race!
My best friend acquired a l88 after a local parts store built one for their jet boat. They put engine in boat and engine locked up after a couple minutes running down river coming to find out they forgot to put oil im engine!!! Lol. After finding a replacement rod and crank was put in his fathers 67 chevelle ss clone. Engine was a monster!!!
THE BEST DAMN RACE OF 2020, THAT SUPER BEE 🐝 WAS HAULING ASS‼️✨✨✨✨✨
It's not always the car. It's how good the driver is.
The Vette guy was disappointing to me. He needs to learn how to drive before he gets on any track.
Ran my 69 Ram Air 4 GTO, 4 Speed, 433 rear. It was worked, but running pump gas. Ran high 10s all day. Ate hemis for lunch.
Great race! 👍
The crazy part is that these cars both have to let off the gas at the end. Run below 11.5 and you get banned. I know the hemi can pretty easily run a 11.2, but I’m not sure where the Corvette would end up.
Corvette was trapping over 120! 600hp easy ! Needs a better driver and would be in 10s!!
Crazy trap speeds for that Corvette, but I think it was more the tires. They have some pretty strict regulations for tires in the Pure Stocks.
the trap speed was a low to mid 10 second trap speed the driver was sitting there staring at the green light instead of leaving on the last yellow
Lightweight car heavy in the front= no traction
456 gears are way too low for no more Tire then they have 373 at best for the street tires too bad he don't run a 28 inch drag radial guarantee you that car would act totally different
The L88 in reality made an upwards of almost 600 hp. 430 was just on paper for regulations. That's a 10 second capable car.
Super Bee was moving!
He can run that thing into the low 11s all day. However, at the Pure Stocks you get kicked out if you run quicker than a 11.5 ET (have to have a roll cage for times quicker than that), so he slows it down right at the end
@@CarsAndZebras yeah, that car can move especially for old technology! Hopefully next year can take my land yacht down at the drag strip and see what she cam do...ha!
@@CarsAndZebras > I know.... I would love to see these two go head to head, all out without being forced to sandbag.
Stupid track rules.....
@@CarsAndZebras Trap speeds say there is way more quicker times. I would venture the Corvette was trying to get the Mopar to run under 11.5 by bagging off the line. He likely doesn't know his car on the big end to lift because at 120 mph it is a 11.2 ET. Did the Mopar lift in the first race because he knew he won? 108 mph is a 12.6 ET and you can't tell from this camera angle. Then there is the .01 difference in times and the Corvette running 122 trap. I say self preservation on both drivers part.
@@CarsAndZebras Ahhh....That explains the low trap mph. Thanks.
Both are beautiful cars I love them both
Very nice indeed. Brings back some memories of yesteryear for sure.👍👍🇨🇦
That Mopar sounded awesome
Dam those r some fast ass 14sec cars
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Very cool. Is there a zero modification class of drag racing?
Amazing that the Super Bee has 700-800 lbs on the L88 Vette and still this out come !!
The Mopar driver is a better racer off the line also 👍
If you watch closely, the super bee lifts both times right before the end of the race. Hence the slower trap speed.
exactly......people keep comparing the trap speed of the corvette vs the hemi and do not realize the hemi lifts at the end of both races.......otherwise his time would make no sense.
Not to mention the hemi has an extra 250 pounds ballast for this race I think someone said.
I like that corvette for sure, but you cannot deny this hemi is a friggin beast.
LMAO neither cars are factory stock so who cares.
It's called sandbagging.
Yep..you don’t run deep into the 11s while topping out at a trap speed of 106 mph. If the Super Bee kept his foot in it, I would have expected a trap speed of 120 - 122 mph.
Exactly the owner says as much here in the comments.
Some of you younger guy's out there probably don't realize the hemi has ruled the dragstrip since the late fifties. And continue to dominate ti this day . Top fuel & funny car .
Lie!! Remember the 455 gs stage 1?? The Hemi killer?? The Hemi is over rated!!!
Nascar back in the day
Brad Hardy the boss 429 Ford was every it as fast as Chyrslers hemi and the 427 over head cam motor was faster. chysler didn't invent the hemi head anyway they just trademarked the name hemi and acted like they invented it. Ford made hemi engine's in world war two and chysler did also. chysler had much success with their version of the hemi engine but dominant I don't know about that. I believe Ford won as many or maybe more NASCAR races in the 60s- early seventies than chysler did with the 427 sideoilers and boss 429 powered cars.
Never seen a Hemi in a dirt modified or sprint car. The Gen2 Hemi was truely a one trick pony, they never made a heavy duty truck or high torque two barrel station wagon version.
@@mikeburks9641 except when they added nitro . The 427 wouldn't hold up worth a shit . There's a reason why all the top fuel & funnycar team stuck with the Chrysler hemi .obviously.
Great video
Thanks for watching! There are a lot more to come!
I didnt no who won.but i tell you seeing these old muscle. They all won . Cheers perth wa
And did anyone else happen to notice the personalized license plate on the Hemi?
Ahh, yes. Nice 1:09
I'm a Mopar guy but I still would've thought the L88 would've won just because the 12.5:1 compression L88 427 was a full race engine and the car itself was alot lighter than the Super Bee. Now I know why I've always been a Mopar guy. The Hemi is King...even just the 10.25:1 compression Street version
There's one dumb rule at this track that affects a race like this... anyone who runs a sub 11.5 gets booted. I'm not kidding, it's pretty lame. Both of these cars run in the low 11s (maybe quicker for the Corvette), but they purposely sandbag so they don't get kicked out.
@@CarsAndZebras I heard them let of the gas a bit at the end thought it was strange in a head to head race
@@CarsAndZebras you always seem to have a lot of excuses for everybody else but the mopar guys . Gfys idiot
Vette. Will not win that big dodge is lighter than u think it has no frame it's on pins
Ya not as light as vette..but goes to show u the hemi..and ls6..chevelle are the fastest muscle cars of all time my favorite tho is the 64 ..426 max wedge superstock dodges even with automatics they ruled the street and strip in 62 63 64 I love em 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
This is a million dollar drag race. Literally. That vette and Superbee are easily 500k apiece
Maybe more , the L88 Vette is 3/4 of a million dollars alone 💰💰💰
Watched this same '69 L88 Vette run an 11:43 @ 125.5 mph on a different youtube ch: "Pure Stock Drags" back in 2011.
Corvette driver asleep at the tree! But both beautiful cars and one good driver beating a better car! That's racing.
Stephen Mitchell you guys all saying he’s asleep at the tree. Hes not at all. Working with a 4 speed and 4.56 gears and “pure stock” tires is nearly impossible to launch and keep up with the Hemi.
@@Mac10Daddy Ha Ha Ha not for us that was raised on bias recap tires and three speed on the steering wheel! Four in the floor and ever changing tires were Awesome. You felt the grip and known nature of your car. In 66 Chevelle launched two lights before green running 10.80's. Guess it's what you spent not hours in the seat. But years in the seat. Plus racing on paved roads... Awesome 👍🏻! Georgia boy and old worn out putting 78 Vette together with stuff new and used. Should run low 9.00's but little seat time high 8.90's with my handicap tag! Still big block, still 12.5 to 1, way harder to get out of the car at Kroger...lol!
😄👍 so...unless ya got something a little better than an L88 corvette....don’t mess with any Hemi super-bees or anything..
Ya find a ls6 454..chevelle...SS. Vs a hemi...roadrunner...or coronet..is bee..I'm pulling for the mopars 😂😂😂😂😂😳😳😳😳😳😀
THANK YOU lol all of the Chevy fans are talking major shit even after their top tier, highest dollar L88 lost to a hemi
The L88 Vette is just a monster. Doesn't matter what kind of car guy you are, it's a bad car.
What is the difference in weight between a Vette and a full-size Dodge?
Some things get meaner as they get older. That Super Bee put the fear of God. In to the GM and Ford guys back then and still does today
sven martin the corvette would have won if the driver was better infact it was getting Faster times 120MPH be the mopars 108
is that why they outlawed the Over head cam 427 Ford because the hemi couldn't run with it because they had the fear of God in them, I don't think so. they told Ford they had to add 400 lbs of weight so the hemi could keep up.so later on Ford put some semi hemi heads on their 429 and called it the boss 429 and actually the race version made about 30 more HP than Chyrslers race hemi, and Richard petty got mad at Plymouth in 69 switched to Ford and won the championship with boss 429 power. I don't see any fear in any of that.
Well There was the cobras that took corvette home, and you never seen Cobras vs any kinda dodge cuz they would have been smoked in a real circuit race. Absolutely smoked. The Daytona woulda have beaten it even worse, but no one ever talks about that.
austin conaway chysler never had a sports car to compete with the Cobra, the Corvette didn't do to well. the NASCAR Daytona's and the Cobra were two totally different cars so to say what would have happened is ridiculous. Chyrslers had their great days in racing history but so did GM and Ford, none of them ever totally dominated anything for very long, it was to competitive.
Mike, that’s my point Chrysler never had anything going in circuit racing, but before the muscle cars was the Shelby Cobra, and Daytona Coupe and it beats all the muscle cars. The OP commenter must not know that, but you also will see thunderbirds and falcons on tracks along with the gt350 so muscle cars did hit the tracks but it was mostly fords. Drag racing is cool but the test of a driver and the car is way cooler, I don’t think many Chrysler’s could race for 24 hours straight maybe the 12 hours....
The Hemi was lifting at the lights. Sand bagging a Vette! A bold statement.
Bull poop.
@@eda8877 Look at the MPH. 108 for the Hemi, 122 for the Vette. The Dodge lifted at the lights. You are either an ignorant 12 year old or have absolutely no clue about drag racing. The Chevrolet 427 compared to the Ford 427 or the Hemi was not in there league. The Vette is much lighter than the Dodge. And Still finished second. Yes Sir, the Superbee definitely lifted. Ignorance is a cruel disease.
@@eda8877 You are correct. Unfortunately ignorance in hereditary. Your family shares a brain. Your sister has it this year. Stop with the LeCrosse practice.
@@dohcsmr1175 I didn't actually mean that you were really smart. I guess I should have known that you wouldn't know that I was being sarcastic. Man you sound like a little kid. What a pinhead.
@@eda8877 read the first comm. You truly are ignorant. These truths are self evident.
This is cool & I appreciate the near stock cars & the owners/drivers bringing them out to roar!
..Back in the day..true stock..Mopars ruled faaar and wiiiide.
You can't beat the unibody plus torsion bar front, leaf spring rear chassis/suspension and super tough, big power drive trains.
Why's: Tbars allow easy adjustment..to help transfer weight to the rear right..esp important minus slicks and/or racing on normal roads not on a rubber coated drag strip. plus the weight of them is more towards the center of a cars lengthwise, not the front like coils.
Leaf springs..do i have to say anything?
Perfectly simple & tuned to transfer torque to push the axle down.
The harder you hit the loud pedal, the harder the leaf springs push down..on launch the whole car will rise up, front and back.
all of that working from a very strong and torsionally stiff unibody.
Mopars carried more reciprocating loss, due to beefier engine internals, as well as the transmissions and rear axles..but they were made with extra care in engineering to run hard for a dang long time.
And the beat goes on
So just found this. How does the hemi get a hole shot at the light, outrun the vette all the way to the traps, and still be 15 MPH slower but faster on speed?
Jeeeez. That old super bee is viciously fast.
Just wait until you see the updated video I’ll have in the future. That thing is a monster.
The 1968 Dodge superbee is a awesome car ! That car is a rocket! Nothing like a hemi!
That was awesome
First time, I BELIEVE it was, I've EVER seen a Hemi beat an L-88. This hemi stock. The best 😊
Almost 14 mph higher in the traps at nearly identical ET, the Vette obviously outclassed the hemi and was hurting for traction. Add a bad launch in there for fun.
nope your wrong, the Super Bee let off the gas hence the low mph.
The Hemi was playing with the Vette. The Vette is inferior.
Mopar was at serious areo disadvantage.
Yeah... just a little. Haha
Like a brick
Where do they have these races i want to go
DID THAT VETTE HIT THE NITROUS BUTTON AT THE END , IT SURE SEEM LIKE IT‼️
I have a 68 doge dart that’s all enjoy this video 🔥
Thanks for watching!
As the song pointed out, the Stingray couldn't handle the 413
Tach it up tach it up buddy gonna shut you down. My dad used to sing me that song when I was in diapers and now I drive a Plymouth Roadrunner.
Impact's Garage and Gaming MOPAR or NoCar
Nice build on that be kudos
Funny story about the L-88 Our local Funeral director told his son he would buy him a new corvette when he graduated in 68. The car. he bought, a brand new L-88 corvette which in many ways was a stripped down race car. Him and another I knew was in Harrisburg PA late at night and needed to get home. Our local interstate was just finished but they were waiting on the politicians bla bla speeches to open it. They decided to see what the corvette would do and started down interstate 81 to home about 50 miles away. They said the Vette was at 150 MPH and wouldn't really go any faster without redlining. After a number of miles they saw headlights behind them the lights slowly crept up and the red lights started flashing. It was one of the state police's new interceptors which not only matched the vette's speed, it actually was able to go quite a bit faster. When they stopped the cop only gave them a chewing out because the road wasn't commissioned yet. They spent some time looking at the police car. A Plymouth Fury with the Hemi A car heavier, shaped like a box, 4 doors ,automatic transmission was able to run them down. PS I had a friend in the state police who told me that he went to the capital to get the new cars in 1971. Him an another police officer wanted to see what they would do. At 160 he left off because the front end was getting light it had the 440 motor that most of the state police interceptors came with.
When cars were powerful and beautiful
Wish they would permit these guys to run at least et streets...
I delivered food in my boses/uncles L82 stingray coolest day at work ever! And this was in the 90’s so it was only 15 years old and still low miles so it ran good thing was like setting in the trunk of any normal car driving a 20 foot hood and if you have ever drove one you will know what I’m talking about. His was the black and silver anniversary edition. One of the other drivers came in messing with him said yea we seen him at the redlight just smoking them new tires he said that’s ok it’s a Vette that’s what there for.
Not saying it would have turned out any different but seems the vette driver was struggling a little bit for what ever reasons.
Hemi was lifting in the traps. 11.6ish at 105mph.
715 hp and 4.88 , enough said
Pure Stock drag racing yet these cars are running 11.50?
Kris Duboy, that the same thing I was thinking, that Vette and Hemi Super Bee are not bone stone stock.
Google search, "Pure Stock Muscle Car Drag Race", go to their site, read the mods allowed.
@@CarsAndZebras This must be like the dirt track cars my dad used to race, it was considered stock car racing, the modifications allowed were anything built and sold by the factory that built the car. Makes sense.
@@CarsAndZebras Okay, I went the site and read the rules, very informative and interesting also. Now that I know what is/isn't allowed, this racing sounds like a lot of fun.
These aren't dead stock cars.
I'm a bit confused. The event is "Pure Stock", but a lot of the muscle cars look and sound Day 2. What's allowed to be done to your machine, and still keep it eligible in this series?
Nice prep work on the Hemi. Years ago a friend bought a new hemi Cuda and box stck the street hemi wasn't fast.