Missing Men and the Future for Women / The Future of Work Summit
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- Nicholas Eberstadt, Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute
Kristin Sharp, Executive Director, SHIFT: The Commission on Work, Workers, and Technology, New America
With Derek Thompson, The Atlantic
For more on this event, please visit www.theatlantic...
#FutureWork2016
My god, this is horrible! There are men who's decided to spend their lives enjoying themselves rather than getting married and working and living their lives the way I want them to! What do they think they are, free people who get to chose how they live their lives? This is grim, people!
MGTOW! HURRAY!
There aren't any jobs that can support a family without super educational success. Period. You've doomed these men, so what are they supposed to do? They might as well enjoy themselves since they've been thrown into the wastebasket.
You can oppress people for a time. But not for for long.
@@williamcolucci447 Agreed.
You mustve missed the part where they are getting carried by others. If they worked just enough to go on holiday, then that would be one thing, but Eberstadt is talking about men that just dropped out of the workforce completely.
If you are not interested in chasing women, as a man, there is not reason to waste time working. school and most work environments are hostile to men, no smart men would willingly put himself into any of them.
Exactly. Heck I try to grow a lot of my own food to save money. 🙄
I did 34 years at my employer if you put me back at square one I would have started planning my escape sooner
Barry
You described it perfectly man... It is exactly how I feel. 💯💯💯
Bingo!
Exactly. There’s no need to go extra hard when all you need to do is support yourself.
"Men are leaving the workforce. This is very damaging to women."
"Women are the primary victims of war." (Hitlery Cliton)
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Same thing.
In the famous words of Marie Antoinette, "Let the modern women, eat cake!"
Who knew attacking man 24/7 calling them monsters. Telling woman they are victims and giving them a free pass would cause such a decline in the workforce 🙄
Yet this narrative is only growing stronger by the day. I can’t wait for the devastating societal collapse that is undeniably impending unless society and the media make a drastic u-turn which is highly unlikely. When you make half of the entire population 2nd class citizens no society will be able to flourish especially when the specific half was responsible for every single thing that made modern society. I’m not opposed to gender equality in anyway but it’s gone disgustingly past equality and maliciously attacked men to the point where we won’t put up with it anymore. Don’t need us cause we’re the spawns of the devil? Fine have fun holding everything together without the people that make everything of everyday life run smoothly.
Nothing to do with attacking men but that's the going narrative now.
#MeeToo
Terrific excuse to be a peevish lazybones.
By abandoning marriage, work and education men are acting rational. These institutions come with high risk but very low rewards so men are dropping out all together. Marriage has a 50% divorce rate with women initiating most of the divorces. Men however are still required to pay to maintain their lifestyle, pay for a house they don't live in and pay for children they can't see. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. These days most companies expect you to work hard long hours for low wages and little to no benefits. Plus they can cut your hours or dismiss you whenever the economy slows down or dismiss you and move overseas so they can maximize their profits. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. College these days requires taking on huge loans which you will not be able to get rid of for your entire life no matter how much you pay back. Plus as you graduate the jobs we were promised are no longer there. The only ones you can get are low paying or temporary gigs which have no benefits. THAT'S A BAD DEAL. So men are not stuck on some peter pan syndrome or failing to launch or whatever bullshit these clowns call it. Men are just recognizing these institutions are a bad deal and walking away.
The best way to win a rigged game, is to refuse playing it at all. We look at the board with all the traps. Just say "screw this" and left. Whats the point playing a game where you have all the disadvantages and your opponent have all the advantage?.
onevagabond and Chris Moreno, what to you makes a man? Better yet, what is the difference between a man and a boy? I'm not sure either of you know the answer.
@@BJ-xm6bi Why should a man play this game that is so heavily rigged against him? Not sure you know that answer either. Saying man up is BS, we both know that.
In the entirety of that clip not once we're the wishes of men discussed or considered. The entire piece is simply how men can work for society which is just another way of saying 'work for the benefit of women'. The social sciences (central planners) that have been pushing this model since the 1960s (demonisation of men) are now waking up to the fact men are walking away which they hadn't planned for. If this continues women will be forced to pay their own benefits bill and that includes all highly paid government non-jobs they're favoured with and that'll be a real shock to the system.
A man takes half a million dollars to a casino and bets it on a 50/50 game. If he wins he gets to keep his bet, if he loses he gets to keep 25% of his bet. - Society "He's a loser with a gambling problem" Also society: "Why are men withdrawing from marriage?"
Let's be frank. These factory jobs didn't disappear because of improved technologies. They went overseas where they could pay people much less.
From the country I'm from. You can pay less then a tenth of what american workers are paid for a similar work. Thats just the reality of how corporate work. Its all about maximizing profits.
Greedy western CEOs made citizens of other countries rich and their own people poor by shipping off good jobs. They already had good profits but they wanted more. How do you think china got rich ? They couldn't create jobs for their peasants . But greedy western CEOs did it for them.
When china flexes it's muscle greedy western CEOs want regular folk who they screwed over to go fight the war. In the meantime they are making malleable communist societies of their home countries so they can exercise is more control - you will own nothing and you e I'll be happy (& under their control).
Yes, many men have stepped away from this nonsense. The weakening of once great countries.
@@chrismoreno7181 It's even worse. For publicly traded companies (vast majority of the economy) the director of the company has a fiduciary DUTY to maximize profits for their shareholders - meaning they have a DUTY to move as much production abroad as is financially beneficial, which is practically all low-skilled labor.
@@Splatterpunk_OldNewYork that improved technology was made in a third world country
I have noticed also that call centers in australia will often just employ a lot migrants anyway, as they need jobs and will accept the lower pay, so its not like stopping the jobs from going overseas will stop overseas people from winning the work...
Unpopular fact: Men built a comfortable world, more comfortable for certain people and got abused for it. Young men watched their fathers, grandfathers, great grandfathers do this work, make the world a better place and now these young men are told they are worthless, used, abused and betrayed by women and society. Now they don't want to partake in that system anymore. We have been told women can do all the things men can do but better....well lets see it. You made this bed now you get to sleep in it.
All this video shows is that all these people care about is men working to keep that system alive in which they don't benefit from at all. Why labor for something that doesn't care about you at all.
You want traditional men but don't want women or society held to that same standard. No. Men have woke up and are walking away from all of it, including the world they build.
@Anthony B. : well said...a lot of thank's....
Exactly. We are expendable in western society.
Good point but we’re better off without male systems and know the world men created sucks women are too blame too
@@maryamdiao1509 male systems like family court that sides 95% of the time with women? Male systems like skyrocketing suicide and homelessness amongst young men? It's funny you call them male systems when they dont seem to work very well for males.
The whole thing is skewed towards keeping safety nets in place for women but none for men.
@@mrpink3338 men created these systems the programs are more geared to women cause men are the preparators of most violent crimes. Women definitely helped create these pathetic men. But men don’t change they have never loved anyone not even themselves
“A child that is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth”
A man who's had enough will sit things out and wait for the inevitable collapse when he stops propping it up
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"I'm a man of simple tastes. I like gunpowder, a little dynamite, and gasoline. You know what all 3 have in common? It's they're cheap."
@@delanorrosey4730 Is this a quote? If so, from where?
@@garysuarez9614 Yes - Joker said it in The Dark Knight, just before he burned mob accountant Lau alive with half of the mob's money he was promised in exchange for capturing Lau before he testified against the mob.
I watch a 99% male workforce physically build societies infrastructure and dwellings... and then be totally denied access to them or basic human rights by the privileged few law makers.... who wants to work ??
John Hayes, no one with a brain.
This. We along with our forefathers built a comfortable world that, if we take part in, will only be punished further. The entire system works against men. Dating, marriage, family court, financial aid.....built by the same men that its either used against or denied to. Only now that that world is suffering because men are refusing to take part in it are these people starting to realize how necessary men are to its stability. If its suffering this much because of 20% of mens refusal to take part, imagine what it'll be like at 50%+.....
Liberalism was a mistake.
@@mrpink3338 So true. Let it all collapse. We built it. We can stand back and watch it implode.
This is not just a U.S. problem, there are millions of Chinese men without work, and with no prospect of work or wife.
AAM. Maybe so, but the demographic causes of each country's situation are completely different. One was from single Party ideological policy with 10 times the economic population shift which has since been reviewed and discarded. The other is from ideological policy which is still enforced, applauded, pervasive by a variety of Political parties and has weakened a strong egalitarian economy to a mere shadow of it's creative self. China's bachelor's also generally would desire a wife if they could find one. Not so in the US. The bachelor desire co-efficient in the US is becoming congruent with Japan more than China. US men are justifiably finding little 'attractive' about western women and yet it's the women who are complaining about the lack of men. Women are simply losing the ability to have a relationship with a man and men are caring less and less. So sad.
@@natoslayer2907 Let Chad T. build and maintain the whole of Human Civilization by himself then. If I don't get my pp succ'd I will not work. I will not bear in my shoulders the weight of a society that hates me while he gets his pp succ'd everyday just because he is 6' tall. He gets the succ so let him alone do the whole plumbing of America. Not humanly possible bucko.
Men are leaving the workforce, women most affected.
I work so I can afford my retirement in Thailand
Yes brother, I'll see you there!
@A R I'll keep that in mind
@@chadcadsonvii5258 lol me too someday
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I am working so I can afford the immortality tech
MGTOW
Geez, I love how everyone (especially women) come up with all the hypothesis of why men do what they do. Why not just ask men? Could it be that men are weighting the pros and cons and making a rational choice?
Women don't genereally ask men because most women are terrible at communication. They talk and talk and don't say a thing! Haven't you ever dated a woman?
+Robert Lutece
I don't know, throw that into the free market and see what happens... After all, this might have been the intention behind japanese dating sims, and it only exacerbated the "problem", making men happier in the process!
James. Rational choice between pros and cons? That pretty well labels you and I as being overly toxically masculine. Oh well, I don't know how I FEEL about that, so back to my video game while my trained dog gets me a beer from the fridge.
Asking is sexist according to them
you used the word rational.....so women won't understand the concept...like they don't understand facts.
Strong, confident, independent women don't need a man. We got the message. What's the issue?
Until their car breaks down, the toilet doesn't flush, the power goes out, the fridge, dishwasher, vacuum cleaner, stove stops working, etc, etc, etc.
Exactly James!
+Robert Lutece
I'm going to steal that sentence. Thank you.
L vonende, your IQ is under 50, if you did not get it. Choose only ten jobs men do, from thousands. Do it for a year. Then make comment again. (After a year you'll beg for men)
@Michael Matas
You don't handle sarcasm very well. Read the two first replies, that from James Campbell followed by L Vonende. You'll see we're all agreeing in this thread.
Because traditionalism is dead. Being a provider is just another gender role.
"Men have been rationally forced away from traditionalism" - huMAN. It's called Rational Happiness.
Men are dropping out of work because they are being treated as disposables. Since they can live on very little without having to support women and children, they are working as little as possible. They are not getting any benefit from marrying and having children, so why bother? They also want to pay as little taxes as possible, much to the distress of the tax collectors.
You nailed it. Why support a system that's been stabbing me in the back for 60 yrs?
Why work for a society that hates you and belittles you every single day of your life? Let it rot.
Yep, women have experienced the same hostility/shame tactics from society... over the last 6,000ish years of natural history.
Why should men bother contributing to a society that despises them? If your not trying to impress women or provide for children you really dont need very much to exist. Part time no skilled work will keep you alive and leave you with plenty of time for fun.
Yeah I workout, play computer games, and do the bare minimum work hours. Women most affected.
I've built this country. I worked hard. I had skill. I showed up. - and I sweat. Now, I quit. I'm done.But, worse, I'm not appreciated. But, I did enjoy it,
@Johnny Tramain i respectfully disagree....the alphabet soup group and sjw's BELONG IN THE SEWER.....
Wow... I felt like I just watched 3 idiots talk around the elifant in the room. This video did feel very new age feminist with complete disregard to the fact that men and women are different. We look different and we think differently, its called genetics. Its not a matter of convincing men that its ok to be a care taker of sorts, its a matter of most men don't want to do that.
+Johny Tramain
Was this sarcasm?
Johnny Tramain. Isolation, dangerous, specialist jobs so minimal interference, clear goals in production, your own bunk, internet access, free food, can fart and burp freely, free helicopter ride, free plane ride, high pay, bunch of mates oh and NO WOMEN. What's not to like? It's the perfect men's shed minus the bar.
@Johnny Tramain Or female garbagemen. 🙄
Dont mind me, just watching the world go into a decline from the sidelines
You, me, and many other men.
Add me on the list.
Grab the popcorn & sip some warm coco. 😏
Society is degenerating into an asylum where feelings and emotions are given more priority than real, tangible issues. Men built and maintain this world only to be sneered at and squeezed dry for resources. Maybe some sanity will return once the comfortable civilization falls to ruin and people once more have to fight to survive.
Yupp its not worth saving.
#1 Reason: If a man isn't strapped down with a wife, kids and mortgage he doesn't NEED to slave away 24/7
Get back on the plantation!!!
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Men are required to support a wife and family. Less than 50% will have what they are forced to pay for.
Slim Morden. The more young men who understand that western marriage, as it currently exists, is a freehold purchase contract ONLY for the woman, whereas the SAME contract for him is a RENTAL contract for the rest of his life, he will understand that a head/tails toss of a coin on HIS life is just NOT WORTH it. If he knows this and STILL gets married, he is a fool and deserves his servitude. Thankfully the sharply declining birth rate proves that men are fools less and less.
Marriage is basically a 50% chance of a state enforced mugging where men are required to keep paying the mugger even after it ends.
Men have enough to pay their mistress, sugar baby, OF online girlfriend, Play station, games and seggs tourism in poor countries to do the illegal filthy things western country forbids them and cry how oppressed they are - western men are the biggest shame to human mankind and the entire animal kingdom
It should be "people don't want to be slaves anymore!" instead of "people don't want to work anymore" Many people particularly the younger generation, use the range of unconventional methods of earning a living these days. I worked in the retail for over 10 years, so I'm quite happy that this is taking place. For too long, retail bullied me and a lot of my employees/colleagues saying things like " if you don't like it, go; another like you is waiting to get in your position" since the COVID, I found a job that helps me grow, pays me more and Values Me Social Media cleared the way for a rapidly expanding market, and it taught us a lot. 2020 was my turning point, and investment helped alot!
Majority of this new generation loves working remotely and prefers to be their boss!
Yeah the 2020 pandemic gave everyone a big rethink! I tried a lot of things I realized I shouldn't just let my savings sit in the bank, try side hustles. It paid
Speaking about investing, what Worthwhile investment are you making ? And how do you do it ? I can learn and put my savings into good use
There's various profitable ways to invest. Starting out you need to work with experienced hands to work you through. As a rookie I dabbled on and made mistakes till I got a mentor to put me on the right track. You can search one too, read books and do your own research
I appreciate your reply. Please suggest a financial expert so I may start my search from there
my hands are on fire from so much rubbing
But can you dance as well as they do ? 😉😎😃👇
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MEN FIGHT BACK!!
1. Start a business
2. Avoid women especially single moms
3. Pray
4. Exercise
5. Find the cheapest place to live possible
6. Help another man when possible
7. Learn to fix stuff
8. Don't watch TV it will make you gay
God is imaginary. No praying.
@@CelestialWoodway but anything to stay away from females
8. Hahhahahahahhah
Start a business, so I can deal with outrageous leasing fes and taxes, as well as navigate other nonsensical govt Red tape, no thanks
@@CelestialWoodway whatever helps you sleep at night but seriously. Repent and get saved
I have lived alone for over twenty years but I’m unhappy. I paid for my house three times each time it cost my double the previous. First in the divorce, second being stuck with the college loans, and third for yet another college loan.
And what did I get for all of that? Children who only call when they need something; mostly money. Holidays are now just a minor nuisance. I’ve had seven operations and yet not one single child or grandchild visited me or offered me help.
So was it all worth it? Absolutely not.
Don’t let other use up what time they God grants you on themselves.
i hope your will lets them understand your pain and anger.
I flipped the script. I'm 65 and never had kids for the reasons you mentioned I saw in other men. I retired 20 years ago so had that fun. Now planning a move to SE Asia and will find a young attractive woman who will be a great wife and good mother to our future kids. I'll have the time to spend with my kids and have a lot to teach them. I have the resources now to ensure my wife's future and our kids through college. In SE Asia I can afford to hire line-in help if needed.
IMO the main trouble with the US system is it's completely geared toward women. They can only have kids until about 35, maybe 40 and it can even be an issue 25-30 for some. So we expect to get married young. But men don't have that tiny window. Then we expect men to work into their late 60's in order to pay for all that all the while piling on more requirements for raising a family in the US that has made it super expensive. The more men earned the more new "requirements" get piled on. Then we're supposed to retire at the very end of life too broken and sick to enjoy life. Makes no sense to me. Better to work hard in 20's & 30's to accumulate wealth. Even working 2 lower paying jobs can save a lot and that'll almost double your social security payment. Then retire in your 40's or 50's while you still want to do fun things. Then have a family in your late 60's or 70's and have a young wife to care for you in old age.
@@MrWaterbugdesign 65 and you're trying for kids? yikes
If you make it out of your 30s without losing half hour shit it's just smart to get out of the rat race with your money and sanity.
I`m 78 so it doesn`t matter now but did you ever think that these men might want to do jobs that interest them. Interest is one of the biggest motivators that I know of. That is the biggest reason I know of society, not starvation which is what I think governments think will solve the problem. You can`t expect people to thrive at what`s available out there. No, what happens is people end up in despair.
That`s how you get large numbers of people using drugs or committing suicide. No, what you need to do is counsel them and help them get into the fields they want and as close to their interests as possible.
So why don`t just ask these men what they want to do? I worked as a bus driver but that`s not what I wanted to do. It provided a decent wage at something that I found bearable to do. Mind, you were treated like a piece of dirt but I could have put up with that if could have worked 3 days a week which would have given me a chance to get some education at technical University. The trouble with society is it is so machine-like in its approach to humanity. This is the fault of capitalism and why it fails so miserable with humanity and why so many people are discarded in the garbage heap dispair.
@Randall Slaughter No. But It does mean we better start looking for something better soon. Because capitlism will never take us ever.
I work in my house in my underwear no boss its awesome. I just make 50 bucks a day but hey for a single dude thats fucling awesome 😉😉😉😍😍😄😄🎉🎉😄💃💃💃💃
Anddres Torres, that is what I said. Do not work for unreasonable , hungry, greedy women's wants. Men can simplify their lives.
Anddres Torres. Stay single mate. Don't let any woman put pants on you. Paradise.
@@bryanjames5234 Great comment.... :-)
A "suggestion " to these "experts " on men. We still need plumbers, electricians, repairmen, truck drivers, mechanics and pest exterminators. This isn't a newsflash. Academics need to talk to real industry experts. This discussion is so out of touch with reality.
The elephant in the room: "Women wanted to do what men did. Now they do. Now, it's politically correct to hire women. HR (a mostly useless entity) is formed almost entirely of women, who want to create a bunch of rules that stifle creativity and freedom for disingenuine forms of "safety for helpless victimized women". Women...you wanted it. Now, you got it. You can have a thousand of these stupid thought sessions. But, until you finally get that we were bred by God to live in a patriarchal society, you realize that the whole thing has been thrown out of wack. The answers are right in front of your eyes. You just don't want to look at them.
The answer is so fucking simple lol stop dancing around it! We don't HAVE to anymore lol. The government takes care of the single mammies and the children now. We can dip out and focus on us
the Government is one ginormous PIMP...
They say we're evil when we "have all the jobs"
Now we're evil because we don't have enough of the jobs
🙂 All female bravery will die when the war begun 🙂
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Equal rights, Equal responsibility. Sign up your draft papers ladies. Its only fair...
@@chrismoreno7181 Let alone get drafted, they don't even want to do chores anymore
Mgtow
Society, & its women, have nothing to offer me, for my time, labor, & resources.
Interesting, 40% of jobs were manufacturing and construction in 1954. Today it is 13%. I wonder how, factoring in the addition of women into the workforce in the 60's has impacted the topic being discussed?
Woman don't manufacture or construct much
@@juanguatemala4874 Joe Rogan had a good way of describing modern women. "EVERY person on this planet came from a woman. Now they want to be CEO's of large corporations. GREEDY BITCHES!" Thought he nailed that and thanks for the comment.
It’s just not worth it. Boss makes $ 200,000 workers make $ 4, 000 maybe gov takes $1000 men would rather not get ripped off.. you all are nuts
Don't forget that of the $3,000 that's left if the poor bastard's been wrecked through the marriage / divorce industrial complex and is paying $1,000 or 1500 a month to some broad that he's no longer banging that cuts him down to about 1500 a month. It's just not worth it.
If you want to destroy society, just give whimin the rights of a man
On point.
Pettiness
I’m one of these men. In the workforce though. No point in marriage or kids due to divorce and family court. So I’ll just enjoy myself and yeet put when im old
Bottom line, no matter what men do, women will blame them and play the victim.
The stagnation of wages has finally got to the point where most work in the US just don't have a positive value considering benefits and sacrifices. We've been told to take whatever you're given and your boss can treat you like a slave for 20 years and it's just not worth it anymore.
They make an argument about care work that is incredibly shallow and assumes men are too proud or lazy to enter those industries, instead of care work being mistrusting, hostile, and degrading towards men.
The video games thing is just ignorant.
dont know NA situation but in many western countries and possibly other parts of world also women, nurses leave their country or care industry alltogether for same reason. What exact reason, well upto each individual and life situation. Immigration workers are suggested almost uniformly to solve this problem but turnover stays high. Problem is in work culture and such things. Back in the day like 40 years ago sure jobs were tough but men were at least treated better (not sure of women, coz im not one and wasnt adult in 70s, 80s). Now situation is same(low-ish wage, public sector problems) if you tolerate mostly women oriented workplace. What is interesting that same topic aint framed as "women are not participating in work" when exact same problem is there(they being rational and not take toxic , low wage workplace job).
Most jobs that are available to this group without degrees have turned to a revolving door employment culture due to poor work life balance schedules and hostile unattractive workplace environments. When cities allow companies to build in there city, they should demand more from the companies to avoid high turnover rates and promote long term sustainable employment.
What a load of bull. Family planning should be the responsibility of the man/woman not the business. My wife went back to work after 4 weeks and we planned accordingly and she agrees with my comment. This push for parental leave and higher benefits for the UE are reasons that the European UE is higher (along with labor laws) and market failures. When you give people more and more for nothing they do less and less.
I'm guessing you wouldn't be a fan of UBI! LOL.
'we are moving to where most jobs are around careing', is she nuts. Did she never hear of IT! Its very simple, men are making a rational choices, wages are shit, why work as basically a slave and then die. Better to having something to show for your life, even if you are poor.
wait until they have to climb pylons..fix computers,build dams,lay roads,repair things....rebuild things..oh for gender segregation..men would be fine...we'd get our fun from ever improving computer games and sex robots......females....WGF
It's hard to get hired as a black man period record or not.. without a degree or a trade
What are you talking about? Every job site i go to it's nothing but black dudes and haitians.
@@JesusChrist5000
Which jobs ???
@@BigReggii Manufacturing plants and warehouses in metro areas are mostly African American. Once a tipping point of blacks are reached, the other cultures are driven out due to not wanting to deal with Africa American culture
@@JesusChrist5000 lots of haitians at my job too. Cool guys too
Its past time for Men to get a break. Let her bring home the bacon and deal with the stress.
I agree.
You guys are dumb, women date up not down. If you think women are going to date some average guy while making more than them and not just sharing a high value male just shows how out of touch you are.
4:45 Good luck with that. This is biology. Culture can do a lot of things, but it can't remove biology completely. I see problems in three fields if you want to take that approach.
- Large amount of guys love manual labor.
- Women prefer to date masculine guys.
- People look products as something they want to spend their money on while they look social care as something they need to spend money on. For me this looks like it could create a bubble, like the housing bubbles. But that's just intuition and I'm no economist.
17:15 We don't need universal basic income statistics directly to make statements on universal basic income. We have plenty of countries with unemployment benefits. They are closely connected to universal basic income. Sure there are some differences, but you can't say they have no relevance. Or in America certain states gave so much money for staying at home that the companies couldn't keep up with the salaries and they had too few workers.
And I know of personal experience and from friends and acquaintances that humans are lazy and if they survive with only doing hobbies then they don't see the need for work, but are less fulfilled anyways in many cases (Anecdotal!)
And another point they missed or thought it was not worth mentioning is that men who care for a family are more likely to try to get a higher paying job. If the men feel as if they are not valued by society and by women they go back to the minimum amount they need to have fun. And men need considerably less than women and entire families.
This women seems to love female jobs and wants to share them to everybody. And that is a great thing. But just observing the statistics of who works and then demand that men should start loving what you love is a bit of a naïve approach. But perhaps it's just me.
From my earliest childhood I have been toiling and wearing my heart out for other people, who took all I could do and suffer for them as no more than their just dues.
-John Randolph
Yep and the minute you stopped they vanished I'm sure as if you never did anything for them at all.
I think they’re not tailoring this conversation and proposed solutions to the very men they claim to want to attract. They seem to more or less just want to get the worker bees back serving the hive. You have men either failing or not participating in every institution in American society ie or attending church, leaving college, failing high school, voting less, not joining the military, not trusting media, or government. I think you should ask what’s wrong with society that men have chose to not participate less and less?
The guys working in the fifties had just finished their old jobs of shooting people for the government , I worked with many of them , the bosses did not give them much trouble.
I looked through an online prospectus for a UK university today...I estimate that around 85% of the pictures in the brochure were of women. This in an era when men are more and more in the MINORITY at universities.
If you were born after 1980 you never knew a world where women didn’t dominate the education system on all levels
What's so great about working some shitty job you hate for 40 years or more? Drop out young men!
& in the end receive a penny's worth pension that the currency wars throughout the decades have evaporated it. 😕
The poor poor women who have to deal with the fallout from dealing with these tragic men
@Harvey Smith it’s always about women am I right ,I’m sighing just from saying this
There's not much room for stable families in what these people are talking about.
How many minutes can we go until they call men lazy basement dwelling gamers who need go man up?
Honestly the basement dwelling while gaming is the better deal at this point
These three people are university trained, social engineering acolytes. And always, always the government comes to the rescue. It can indeed come to the rescue by getting out of the equation. The government can further help by creating a laissez faire economy. It is already there, but it has been becoming more difficult over the last few decades (too much regulation). Entrepreneurial encouragement is need.
In the push for gender equality, women took jobs that could have gone to men to be breadwinners for the family. It also increased the available labor pool which lowered the average wage. Basic economics. In order for feminism to accomplish what it wanted to, it needed to tear down men. What did you expect to happen? Utopia and Kumbaya? Thousands of years of doing things worked for a reason, and when you change the social order there are going to be dire conseqences. Looks like this video was posted in 2016. What has happened since then? It has only gotten worse obviously. The patriarchy builds and sustains societies. Anything else destroys them. The future for women is desperation and them making fools of themselves on TikTok and dating apps.
If a woman can have a choice to stay home why can't men .
Men are done caring for women...they wanna be strong and independent so let them work for themselves
There is no American dream anymore people can not beat the corporate complex which is great at holding down wages rural people even have it harder, no one sells us a car at a reduced price because they hold those wages down. We just quit trying to beat a defunct system.
Yes, and this only gets worse as you get older.
Yeah IDC, I'm 26 yes old now and I'm almost full hermit and couldn't be happier.
Women in management positions doesn't exactly boost mens morale.
not when they keep making mistakes and won't listen to advice.
@@shaunwalker2557 They have that job because they know EVERYTHING, dont you understand?! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE take women seriously OMG!!!!!!!!! 🤣
For men work is related to duties. When there is not any duty,..
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Saying that unemployment went up because of crime going up is an invalid argument. Crime has actually steadily gone down in the last few decades. Under this man's logic, unemployment also should've gone down..
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She also has a bad argument. She's saying that jobs are now centered around care, and that there are fewer and fewer tech / manufacturing jobs.
As technology improves, the demand for stereotypically masculine jobs like technicians and manufacturers has been rising.
I'm starting to think these people don't know what they're talking about.
(Seriously, everywhere I go, the maintenance and tech workers I talk to complain about how they don't have enough people. There's a demand for this stuff boys.)
These comments. 👍
The problem with the care industries is that they are not productive. There has to be a productive industry that produces goods and services that are needed for our existence before the care industries can function, however badly they are needed. It does not matter how demographics works or how shifts in society works we will still need food, clothes and buildings etc. Men can be employed in these [along with women].
At the end of the day society needs families and that means parents and children and that means someone has to look after the children at home and someone to work to support the family. This is just as important as employment. Because of biology women are better off working in the home and men are better off working productively to support the family. Generally speaking this society is not functioning as correctly as it should as a normal human society and that is the main problem here.
It's better to live on the side of a mountain alone , than under the same roof with a contentious woman , and its a nice view 😀
Canceling men had an unexpected result: men are cancelled.
10:45 brilliant point
Do you have any idea how much mental effort people put into their games? They hardly get any recognition for it and rarely any compensation.
Just means women will have to work more and harder, isn't this what they wanted?
"Men unemployed. Women most affected."
Can't disagree more that it's primarily because of the loss of 'factory' jobs. I'm not denying that these jobs have been exported to other countries, but I can tell you that companies are currently screaming for non-skilled, semi-skilled and skilled workers in the trades and higher levels. The average age of the traddie is only going up. I'm speaking for myself, but I have 2 trades behind me, are not university educated but am on 6 figures and if I were younger (too old now/can't be bothered), I'd be running my own small business (I'm a bit slow in that sense, or lazy)
It’s worse than that my friend. I remember looking into college and I dropped out because i felt out of place, looking back now it’s probably because of feminist teachers. But then i started looking into the trades and they all wanted 5 years experience. I guess they all thought they had an endless supply of 35-40 year olds with a decade under their belt.
Everyone has the right to live as they choose.
Depends upon who pays for it
This summit should be titled “The Future of Woke”
THIS IS WHY the birthrate decline is a GOOD THING. You have to step back and admit having a sex life without ever having children is a REALLY GOOD DECISION these days.
We just don't need any more people. The world adapted to increasing population. The world will adapt to decreasing population. For women this means curtailing the 'maternal instincts' and for men it means enjoying a sex life without kids.
The LAST thing the U.S. needs is MORE PEOPLE. Look at all the homeless! There are tens of thousands of U.S. adults out there living homeless - those adults were children once. As this video points out, opportunities have really changed.
While the return of some manufacturing jobs is happening right now (in 2020) and the awful job-stripping NAFTA has ended, that will change with different presidential administrations - you just have to assume that ABYSMAL JOB PROSPECTS for some people will be with us.
For goodness' sakes, look at the divorce rate too - it's just not cool creating new people for selfish reasons, only to expose them to damning economic prospects, hit or miss as industries change here and disappear.
Automation. It's happening in every retail and restaurant chain.
Next time you hear "the birthrate is declining" just remember, it could just be Mother Nature at work.
Technological Slavery by Ted Kaczynski book. 😉
The world has plenty of space for people, but everyone wants to live in the same place and do the same things
she's wrong, more than ever manufacturing and construction is in demand- roads, bridges, buildings, auto mechanics, all infrastructure, plumbing, electricians, etc...she's not done her research but also has no understanding of labor.
Feminism. Simple.
Women need men like a fish needs a bicycle. We men get that. Video games are a fun pastime when the guys not at work to pay the rent or room and board. A man doesn't collect welfare and spends his free time gaming? C'est la vie. Enjoy your life and the choices you make. They're your choices and your life, and especially your business (and yours alone). Why does someone with different values have to comment? Live ad let live.
What a week analysis of this phenomenon.
Weak*
@@markie1232 Yes, weak not week.Thanks
@@richardblinn4811 you're welcome, stay strong buddy.
These people talk about these men like a lord talking about a peasant. Seriously where are the working class talking about the working class?
They couldn't get Mike Rowe on the panel 🙄. Yes that's the face they use for working men. A Hollywood actor who was on dirty jobs 😒
I'll be hiring the old maids to clean my house.
I'm 26 YO and it sucks that i have to face the consequences of all the fucked up things that baby boomers been doing and the funny part is they think we don't understand anything and we are spoiled, we need to protest against them and get our lives back
We aren't just in for an economic depression-but a social depression as well
Yea how much has illegal migration,legal immigration,discrimination and crimes from both of those groups contributed to this problem?
A couple of things also must be considered. Firstly, capitalism no longer works. You used to be able to get a job, work for many years there, and retire. Not only are companies not wanting to pay for retirement, they want younger workers so they pay less. Also capitalism really only benefits the ones at the top. Getting multi million dollar bonuses every year while the ones at the bottom worry about paying their bills every month. A severe imbalance. Secondly, feminism has destroyed what was once called a typical male/female relationship. There is no benefit for marriage for men. It is a major risk with no reward. Women can leave with no real reason at all and take half of his stuff. I don't know the solution to either of these issues, I just know society will soon collapse at the rate things are going.
Yeah crony capitalism did this
Many a man left his wife and kids with nothing. It's only rational for women to want their own income in case something happens.
@@33nlg and that is, after the wife, for years, provided free maid service, childcare, (icky) s3x-work ... all the while, working a full-time job.
MTGOW IS THE future
How's the economy been going since the central planners decided to outsource manufacturing and replace with overpaid (mostly pointless) government jobs and a service sector? Unaffordable debt (government and private), unemployment, housing crisis, depression and diverging incomes etc.
Strong and independent indeed.
America is 20 or 30 years behind Japan, China and SK demographically. Japan has NEETs and Otakus. China has gone even more hardcore with "let it rot" and "lie flat". American men are not so different from their Asian brothers. No wife, no kids, no home. What is in it for them?
Homes used to be 2x median annual income. Now depending where you live they are 10 - 30x median annual income. That is daunting. How does a man start a family in his early 20s with those numbers?
A man with a family is a man who is invested in society. A man on his own feels he owes society nothing.
Society teaches boys from a young age that their masculinity is toxic.
Trades skills do not get taught.
Where is the positive outlet for a young boy to grow into manhood? Where is the man on man friendly competition?
Some irrational women fear male strength, so they advocate under false guises that men should not have male spaces, competition, clubs, or male role models.
What happened to shop class? Boy Scouts? Male action heroes in movies?
If a woman says, "All men are trash", or, "The world would be better without men".. she gets praise? agreement?
If a man said the same thing about women, he'd be put on a police watch list.
Men are not dumb, they see the double standard in society, the oppression hierarchy, the virtue signaling. Some men are checking out, why play the game?
@CW fine just leave toxic and ignorant men alone so they can play video games. Women should go to work and support themselves and not interact with these degenerate men that you describe. With modern technology, women can just do in vitro pregnancy and abort it if it’s a boy. Get a trans woman to donate sperms. There is your nirvana.
I can’t see my original post so i don’t know what it says. There maybe a typo or something. Because i agree with you 100%. F the modern women mentality and degradation of men. Why should men support women or the govt that don’t appreciate them? I quit work a year ago because i have enough for myself and to support my kids. Modern women can eat cake.
very simple reason.... We are declining like all societies eventually do, and No Democracy has ever lasted More than 250 years, and we are now at 247 years, The one BIG Problem with our system is, eventually you run out of other peoples Money, or the wealthy and upper middle leave the Nation....next question...?
Let's ask a woman why men are out of work. *gets is wrong. Ok so now we know how to help men
Nobody ASKS men WHY they behave a certain way.
I don’t even go to clubs or bars anymore, rarely and I’m handsome according to many men and women, women want too much
I just want my hot air station that I ordered. 😊😅
well the women are getting sexual satisfaction from somewhere. Although i suspect alot of them are satisfied with a vibrator while chatting on dating apps.
if are not married with kids and not interested in that why would want to drain ur life away in the grind of misery.
Men said FUCK IT!
What is this a cry for help?? Also what's with the race bating??
Not one word about how woman have taken jobs from men. Not saying that is bad. How about talking about how our education system is failing our young Men.
I also remember hearing how the work on self driving trucks would get rid of thousands of jobs for mostly men. The Government response was, well these Men will just have to find something else. Would the same thing be said if Women would lose thousands of jobs?
Basis of the enforcement of the law and legislation of "men bad, women good". This has always had consequences.
This is only "news" in the ivory tower.
I am training my sons to look out after themselves only, as both the law and society look at them merely as disposable assets, not people with dreams and rights.
Ye who voted this in, are ye not satisfied?
"Are you not entertained?"