On The DNR Frontline: Ukraine's Failed Ceasefire (Part 1)
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It's been five months since the second ceasefire was agreed between the Ukrainian government and the Russian-backed separatists of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic (DNR). But this truce, much like the first, has not brought an end to the fighting.
Only a few days after this ceasefire was agreed, the DNR took the strategically important rail town of Debaltseve, trashing any hopes for a lasting ceasefire in the process. Since then, fighting has been constant. Dozens, possibly hundreds of civilians and soldiers have been killed, and serious efforts to get the peace agreement back on track have failed.
In late June, VICE News traveled back to eastern Ukraine to get a firsthand look at how it's business as usual for soldiers and civilians on both sides of the frontline.
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"they don't want peace" yeah no shit. you think if mexico invaded texas, claimed and and then asked for peace the united states would just sit by and agree?
Martin Sutti
this has already happened, and yes, the US government didn't do much about it
Prodigysportsman learn some history m8. texas wasn't even part of the US at that point.
Martin Sutti
It was full of American people and they were brutally slaughtered
Martin Sutti That is nowhere close to what actually is happening.
Meg4mushr00m maybe do some research?
9:50 "Facism must be destroyed, facism will spread otherwise" - Grandpa please, stop playing soldier and lay off that cheap vodka it makes say stupid shit
Tom Scharf "Andriy Yevhenovych Biletsky is a Ukrainian military man and politician, who is leader of the organizations Social-National Assembly and Patriot of Ukraine, which are considered by some as white racist and neo-Nazi. He also is a military commander of Azov Battalion, many of whose members was described as followers of neo-Nazi ideology." Stay away from drugs before posting rubbish Tom!
Eternal Sunshine
and Putin is a stalinistic dictator that twist Russian laws just to keep his ass at power. Becoming premier of Russia, then prezident, then premier and prezident again? No problem in drunktard land of Soviet Russia where idiots care more about hunting imaginary nazis than getting rid of a dictator that is leading their nation to war. Dont BS me next time ty
Tom Scharf Only fascists shell million cities with heavy artillery.
Tom Scharf nazi refers to "the third reich" and its symbol the svastika. Where are these svastikas in the DPR or in Kiev Tom? The nazi ideology in Azov battalion, Pravy Sektor, UNA-UNSO is well documented and UNDENIABLE. No further question Your Honor! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andriy_Biletsky_%28politician%29
Eternal Sunshine
stop drinking cheap vodka also mr nazi hunter, I forgot to mention that Putin is an ex-KGB agent that probably tortured many people? That he provoked war in Checnya and is responsible of death of many Russian soldiers? hmm
"Among those who dislike oppression, are many who like to oppress."-Napoleon Bonaparte
chaosXP3RT That's such a hilariously hypocritical statement in regards to its source...
Drew Gaughan Yeah but that irony in itself only proves the point of the statement.
NotAG4yName Touche.
chaosXP3RT The Russians started the WWII in friendship with the Nazis. They grabbed the eastern part of Poland, Estonia, Lithuania, a part of Romania and tried to get a Finland but failed. They killed far more people than the Nazis. The reason why so many countries allies themselves with the Nazis is because they wanted to PROTECT themselves from the Soviet expansionists. They occupied and brutalized Half of Europe, Afghanistan, Korea, etc. to force Communism on everyone. The Afghans and the Finns defeated them and showed that small countries can defeat a big empire. RIP Ahmah Shah Massoud and Simo Hayha for defeating that devil. They killed 1.5M Afghans and made 1/3rd of the nation homeless. 40 Afghans every month are getting killed from Soviet-era PMF landmines. When does it end?
Drew Gaughan But most of what he's saying is factually correct?
nothing worse than getting shelled and having a crazy russian talking to you about facism
PANTSMONSTER66 You mean Russia's armed Bolshevik coup of 1917 after which Russia became forever illegitimate?
puresavagery95 Piece of Ignorant Shit Westerner go fuck yourself.
Дядя Федя
Be quiet Vladmir
Yuriy Soroka No, that means you still live under the laws of the last legitimate state - pre 1917 Russian Empire ))
puresavagery95 XD
"who keeps breaking the ceasefire?"
Both sides. The front-lines in some areas are only a couple hundred meters apart. If you go out to do a bit of scouting, you can get shot at because the other side sees it as an advance. Considering the relative unprofessional quality of soldiers (Volunteers and Conscripts) any one of them can get drunk are fire off a few rounds and start a fire-fight. A poorly-trained soldier could mean to return fire in against one group, and hit a nearby battalion. Hell, at that close distance you can trade fire without even leaving your positions. Since anything can trigger a shot, fire can be traded back for weeks with both sides thinking they're only retaliating. Not to mention there are people on both sides who want the cease-fire to fail.
Well damn you’re smart
It reminds me of the talibans in afganistan who would usually just shoot a few meters from home and go back to rest, basically shooting at neighbours. Civil wars are insane
Fascists what fascists the only fascists country I known is Russia because of putin but other than that wtf are they talking about
Steven Anchundia both fascist's... this is a stupid war for power... both want to rule more and use people in their favor, and at the end people will realize that is not from being part of Russia, or Ukraine or other motherfink government that their lives will be better... no.. their lives will be just equal... fight the governments not their soldiers who don't know what are they fighting and what for..
Steven Anchundia azov battalion
celtspride34 LDPR
and how many percent did svoboda get in the elections and how many did LDPR ?
Steven Anchundia If you read more, you will find the answers:) Or you can sit still and believe in what your news channel says :(
"Ukrainians can't move round their own country" - You specifically declared the Donetsk/Luhansk provinces NO LONGER PART OF THE COUNTRY. You cannot wave a separatist flag in one hand and then complain it takes a long time buying groceries across the border.
And from where do u know that this specifical persons wave this flags? Since German nazi-time (maybe longer) this is a propaganda of russian/soviet people as a Human wave of no free will...to justify their war and atrocities. Is in your head space for imagination that a person lives in Donbass dont waves any flag simply wants to live! or waves a flag and stopped or somestimes thinks one side is right than the other and later no one is right...yes life is complicated. Btw ukraine declares this part as ukrainian territory so people from there are????
@@stephanstange6269 If they hadn't started a war and support Russia, there would be no problem. Pretty simple really. There's no justification for separatists to exists and invade another country at all. You don't win ground without attacking in a war, and that's what separatists backed by russian force have been doing ever since they stole Crimea.
What to expect after ultimatums by EU to forcely decide for one side for Association. Several times support for support for banderists and other fascist scum. Which wonder with start of Revolution in Ukraine in several mostly western ukrainian Cities Banderists marched through streets attacked opposite forces financed by dubious forces. The fight against Russian language, several atrocities like in Odessa . What do you expect that they are happyly waiting to be killed by "ukrainian Patriots" and "western Civilization"????
Facts HAHAHAHA
moron..... those who wants to seperate Don't consider them ukrainian
"They responded from that landing"
and
"We don't start first"
-_______-
"Они _отвечали_ из той посадки"
и
"Мы первые не начинаем"
Finally a journalistic view from the DNR-site. Too less of them!
Damn...I didnt see one russian soldiers. And I saw only how the ukraine fascists breaking the ceasefire.
Bosniake Look at the previous episodes, I'm sure you'll find the Russians you're looking for.
Bosniake Yes. Since Russian generals are so fucking stupid they would allow their men to wrap themselves in Russian flags and hold open their passport while they fight to prove they are Russian citizens invading another country. For all we know every single one of those terrorists were Russian soldiers in shit woodland gear. Russia has almost always been a backwards nation stuck in the past. Innovation starts in the west and very slowly moves eastward. Sad that it is still going on today.
You say that the western media is claiming the things you say. But if you look at the articles you linked the titles read _"Ukraine says [...]"_ and _"Ukraine's Poroshenko:«Putin the Pact-Breaker»"_ so those aren't really claims made by the western media, but claims made by Ukraine.
All the numbers concerning the possible number of soldiers is speculation, no one knows for sure. But that doesn't mean there aren't any.
In regards to videos of tanks and armed vehicles crossing the Russian-Ukraininan border: don't you think that having Russian tanks and Russian APC's on Ukrainian land isn't proof enough? I mean, they had to cross the border, in order for them to land up in Ukraine.
It's like finding the body of a dead man and arguing that he's not really dead saying:
_"... yeah but do you have a video of him dying?"_
Bosniake Well OSCE did see.
*****
What do you mean it was not documented?
It was stated rather obiviously in the recent OSCE declaration in Helsinki.
"We don't look for trouble, we're the Vostok battalion..."
"...We must go on the offensive immediately."
He said that after they came under attack
Pretty legitimate response after being almost hit by shelling in their base imo.
More Great coverage by VICE News. Thank you & good work to Henry and staff & crew. Am looking forward to part two & more Russian Roulette dispatches.
I just love this channel. They risk their lives bringing us reports from wartorn regions. That's just baddass.
In late June, VICE News traveled back to eastern Ukraine to get a firsthand look at how it's business as usual for soldiers and civilians on both sides of the frontline.
Watch " Rebel Soldiers Hold the Buffer Zone: Russian Roulette (Dispatch 109) - bit.ly/1SJSL7S
VICE News Thank you Vice News for those reports in Ukraine. Mainstream media just don't care anymore about this conflict.
VICE News You guys made a mistake I think, the reporter said the line is to get into the DPR, but then they talk about getting into Ukraine.
Utherix The "DPR" is still a part of Ukraine, despite what RT and Sputnik say.
Please get the other part(s) out soon, this is very thrilling!
VICE News So is dispatch 109 the last of the Russian Roulette ones?
I was borned , raised and spent most of my life in Donetsk city. I am pro-Ukraine and could never imagine this shit was ever possible.
I was also born and raised in Donetsk. I did not imagine that Banderite scoundrels from the North-West would dare to wage war on the Donbass, but now that they have, they will be burried here forever.
propaganda for western morons )) educated people KNOW that Ukraine is an integral part of Russia and the eastern half of Ukraine is Russian people 99%
Henry you absolute G
We Want Simon Back!
Superoxygenated This guy can't even put his fucking helmet on...
Superoxygenated simons not allowed on the dnr territory !
Superoxygenated No we don't
Superoxygenated Simon reports on the Ukrainian side of the "conflict" while Henry (the reporter in this video ^^^) reports on the DNR side of the conflict. After Simons kidnapping, hes not allowed into DNR like what shizik makarov said :)
Superoxygenated Um, no thanks. Simon was very biased in his reporting.
Kremlin trolls incoming!
MLG Roosevelt Pentagon trolls already dug in. ;)
Peace
Anon pengaton trolls hahaha
go away russian fascists
Anon
That would make sense if we have _any_ indication that the Pentagon is literally hiring trolls to spread propaganda throughout the internet, as opposed to Russia...
No is THE KREMLIN DEAD
MLG Roosevelt Don't be childish, you saw what the Ukrainians were doing with the shelling and mortars. I'm guessing you're an American that knows so little about the war that you couldn't find Ukraine on a map, let alone Russia who you so love to hate and slag off... So you haven't even got the right to take the piss, have a nice day now
So, DNR, did you shoot any passenger airliners from the sky lately?
that timing "if you need any proof the cease fire doesn't happen -... It's here"
DNR= Doing Nothing Right
You have to be balanced, show the world what ukrainian nationalists are doing to Donetsk, Gorlovka and so for. There is DAILY shelling from ukrops.
***** apparently he did not
***** No, he is here just to comment. They can't censor the internet, so instead, they flood it with bullshit. Liveleak's Ukraine page is pretty much made useless by this, as it's 99% Russian trolls.
kevjtnbtmglr can you even show Ukraine on the map my friend? By the way I was born and raised in Ukraine and don't have a drop of russian blood in me. So being against Ukrainian nazi government makes me a russian troll? How about nazi swastika and light torches in Ukrainian capital. 4 parades last year, 2 or 3 this year with nazi slogans and nazi symbols will that make them nazi's?
FCCO I can. So what you were bron in Ukraine and think there government is Nazi (I'm fairly certain you don't understand the term but I digress).
FCCO
The Ukrainian government is holding nazi parades? Pics or didn't happen.
Last time a guy told me he was from Ukraine on youtube comments section, I doxxed him and he was a black guy from Sweden. So excuse me for being highly skeptical of your claim.
Anyway, your original comment made very little sense as this video is almost exclusively about UA breaking the ceasefire daily.
"If you need any proof that the ceasefire isn't working..THERE IT IS!" Henry Langston got some big balls.
What bloody mine?? Can't you see they're all jailbirds?
이런저런
Mining is tough job. There was no jail tutus or jail slang ether.
DrMelown You're a poor expert on russian jail culture. What slang are you talking about?
I live in Russian Siberia. This how typical low education hardworking men will look like in every Russian city. And I bet not only in Russia. Oil drillers from the north, miners, drivers and list go on. Tough men for a tough job.
Search "Russian criminals and their tattoos" on CZcams. If you wanna see real jailbirds.
DrMelown I don't have to search, i met a lot of them and I am Russian ;) Fucking had it with Serbian ass-wipes.
이런저런 Of course they are, who else is interested in that DPR? Drug dealers, illegal mine owners, just mercenaries
Both sides claim to agree to the Minsk agreement and both sides claim to be keeping the ceasefire. But both sides are also breaking the ceasefire. That's how wars like this go. A lot of the soldiers are conscripts or rugged volunteers, not professionals.
5:07 isn't "against heavy artillery" it's "against small arms".
Don't pass judgement on either side unless you have gone over there and talk to both sides and find out this information first hand.
Until recently I didn't really like this guys reprting. All he used to do was point out the obvious and not really tell us anything we can't figure out on our own. But now he actually gives us details about things that would be completely unknown to us. Good work.
7:28 - 7:33 find the cat ;)
kkkkkk
Dead?
a cat perfectly blends in with those sandbags.
The hole was clearly created by a mortar shell bigger than 100mm and the journalist trys to denie it, I see what's going on here.
I really dislike when I click the links in your videos to watch part 2,3,4 or whatever that it goes straight to your website. IM ON FRIGGIN CZcams FOR A REASON.
I love how, as an American who supports the people of Donbass. I am automatically considered a payed Russian troll. I mean I would love to be paid to speak my opinion, but that's called private journalism not trolling.
Samdo123 Ditto, as a swede even.
kevjtnbtmglr No, i'm actually from Seattle, Washington. I'm just not an idiot and look at the events leading up to Euromaidan and all of those involved.
"I'm just not an idiot"
guess again
CMLXIX
Do you want Russia to invade Sweden and hold fake elections? Be careful what you wish for, bråh. Alto, Im quite sure they wouldn't invade the entire country, just some islands.
kevjtnbtmglr Alright, so please explain how the new coalition gunmen shooting police and protesters in Euromaidan promoted pure democracy and freedom instead of lies like I believe. Please show how economic backing from the US state department during Euromaidan didn't at all effect the outcome of the ILLEGAL COUP. Please tell me how NATO was in control of every person who had the chance to become a leader, and phone calls leaked stating that Poroshenko was for sure going to go into power weeks before election. Now finally, please explain how it was fair for a democratically elected leader which a minimum of 51% of the nation was in favor of should have been removed from power in a violent coup. Please explain how this represented the people of Ukraine, or helped make Eastern Europe a more tolerant and enjoyable place.
7:30 look for the cat
let me get it straight....
people complain about permission system but didn't complain when illegally armed formations took over their administrative and infrastructure buildings. instead, they blocked armed forces from moving around. what else did they expect?
try to take over San Diego's government offices and pronounce "people's republic of Mexican San Diego". we shall see what will happen...
if this circus were to happen in Russia these " peasants comrades" would die like flies. they should thank it's Ukraine and not Russia who they decided to separate from...
the bomb at 8:20 scared the shit out of me
Want to live in the Dnr but want to get paid from Ukraine how does that work
5:15 guy said: "They(ukrainians) do backfire"
NOW look at this place
Please, have a read and let me explain why this people call what they're fighting against "fascism" or "nazism". When a government oppresses you because of the language you speak, the ideas you support, and the cultural background you come from, it pretty much is close to nazism. Of course, it isn't nazism per se. But nazis persecuted jews because of their jewish ancestry and their ideas (judaism). The Ukrainian government targets Eastern Ukrainians that support Russia, come from a Russian background, or advocate to keep "Russian" as a second-language in Ukraine.
To me, that is no different than nazis persecuting jews. No doubt this is also a game of power and imperialism, not only from Russia, but also from the U.S. and EU. To see who has more control and influence over the continent. But, from my point of view, people from any country should have the right to support any idea they want, speak any language they want, and not be under persecution because of their cultural background. Any government that goes against that is like a nazi/fascist to me. Hence, Eastern Ukrainians calling their government and its supporters "nazi/fascists".
Brandon Austria Interesting viewpoint. But the ending just shows how stupid they are. To claim that the Ukrainian population are fascists/Nazis just because they are joining the government's side in a fight against an armed rebellion, is just mental.
The only side backed by something that you can make a good case for is fascistic, is the DPR.
If you forget about the actual fascists and Nazis that make up the volunteer forces on both sides. The Vice have shown quite a few of those in this series
Brandon Austria Thats pretty much the offical DPR story. Comparing some petty language issue with a holocaust. Cmon, comrade..
Brandon Austria So what the Russia did to Chechnya? They killed tens of thousands of Chechens who wanted to be free from Russia.
Yuriy Soroka
Good point. You can join Russia if you want, but then you can never ever leave it.
Brandon Austria Russian speakers, who fight for Right Sector (seen in part 2), are a strong evidence that all this language oppression is a total bullshit
The only media channels that i trust are Vice News & PBS News
EK9GraphicDesign I love Vice because, for the most part, the reporter just shuts up and lets the people and footage speak for themselves.
7:31 Look a cat!
Слава Новоросии!
Слава Україні!
Fuck you troll!
Брат за брата fuck you russ fuck
***** I would call you butthurt since you and your troll buddies always call Vice's videos "propaganda".
***** So "RT is the truth" right?
And Putin is telling the truth? Zionists are controlling the world?!?
PANTSMONSTER66 I'm not from the U.S. so no ;)
Last time the ukrainians committed to a ceasefire, they lost Debaltseve.
I can understand that they have no interest in doing the same mistake again.
Понятно что российских войск вам никто не покажет, съемочную группу туда просто не пустят, не покажу вам откуда у них амуниция, провиант, боекоплект, тяжелая артилерия, средства разведки, радиоэлектронной борьбы и другие прелести русского мира, по этому делать выводы из одного показанного шахтера - не стоит, без российских специалистов и материальной поддержки, это "ополченцы" бегали бы в горах и городских каназизациях и то пару дней.
Потому что их там нет. Сейчас есть смотрите результаты
@@user-zl3ug7zb8q Результаты видим. "Киев за три дня" гори рассейских трупов и потерянной техники, не армия а клоуны в подштанниках. ))
@@scriptsz вы больны?
2:56 - russian daghestan car number. A civil war, yep?
Спасибо , я не заметил !
Why write a lie? These are not Dagestan numbers and not Russians. Пиздабол .
bullshit
7:30 even cats fight wars
You know your in the right place to report a war when the reporter wears a helmet and body armour and an IFAK
Very wire war. Donbass regions hate Ukraine but they need Ukraine money for pensions, food, electricity, water, jobs..in the end this region will be chill out and it will be a new Transnistria. A new limbo country in the world.
Why dont Vice news that love to cover "russian brutality" in newly established democratic ukraine tell us... its audience and other viewers about Right Sector , Azov battalion, private militias , oligarchs and how they divide ukrainian land.. while civil was is in full swing... and last but not least .. why dont Vice news tell us about Tornado battalion... I would be very much interested in that.
unrulyevil Because Putin and his 145 million co-conspirators deserve every nasty thing that's said about them.
They did tho.
3:50 100 millimeters? It all makes sense now.
what exactly is a fascist?
Donuts People's Republic.
The pig grunted, but no one heard it, hahah
It seems like rebels are the only ones who stick to the ceasefire agreement
ROman Jefferson You can hear the 88mm DPR shelling just a few hundred yards away. Its release fire from DPR guns, not landing fire from a Ukrainian artillery piece. Lying DPR scumbag tried to dupe somebody non-military right on the air. Funny shit.
Simon Phoenix If it's "a few hundred yards away" how can you tell that it's DPR? Maybe it's Ukraine's artillary positions
I used to be in the military. When launching artillery, you can tell how far off it is just by the sound. This stooge for the Russians tried to trick a noob interviewer by just telling him it was Ukrainian. But the Ukrainians were nowhere near. The battle lines around the city he's in separate the two sides by miles. Too far away for the boom of that artillery to reach him that quickly. So its one of his own, not Ukrainian.
Simon Phoenix Another "military expert" is trying to judge everything by a distant sound in a video. Omg
This really isn't as complex as you people are making it out to be. The sound was too close. The Ukrainians were nowhere near. Duhhhhh.....
Wow, Vice News Breaking new grouns, interviewing DPR Soldiers? Holy shit.
Much better than that news report about Poland, for sure. At least you got a good reporter. Though Simon still is the best...
What a brave reporter
World: please help UKRAINE by opposing putin and russia!
Guy ignore the Russia troll army :)
Back before Vice lost the plot along with all their credibility
i like how people who support Russia's politics, calls any enemy a facist. the logic is unbelievable.
I don't understand people's argument (here on the comments) for staying in Ukraine DNR. If they want to be Russian, go live in Russia, try apply for Citizenship or whatever. If they want to be Ukraine, go to Ukraine, apply for Citizenship there. Don't suddenly in a province that is within Ukraine borders take up arms and say "I want to be Russian and this province wants to be Russian with me." Its plain wrong and kind of weird. It would be the same if they in Vyborg (Russian town near Finland) says "We want to be a part of Finland" and then take up arms and starts taking over keypoints of that town (if it has any). I don't get it. All I understand is that Russia WAS being the hostile one when they supported the DNR and DNR now is a rogue state within Ukraine's borders who wants to become Russian.
2:55 Castro's fighting with the DNR!
4 years late but why is this comment so underrated
How hard it is to translate it ? I dont want to read a book, i want to watch a video
Все дАнецкие и все в шахте работали.. САФПАДЕНИЕ ? НИ ДУМАЮ..
VICE BECAME A PRO-US PROPAGANDA MACHINE.
Slava Russia 🇷🇺.
How come you support Russia?
@@bigmoose4143 How come you support Banderites?
@@dfui. Answer my question. Not ask me a question....
@@dfui. Do you support Wagner?
What is that at 04:44 that peaks out?!
Nice brand new Russian standard issue uniform on that guy.
Слава Новороссия!!!
Keep up the good fight comrades!!
Fight for your families! Fight for your homes!
Death to fascists!glory to Novorossiya!
Long live the People's Republics!!!
Lol
"Not many people want to join the DNR military?"
"Many joined last year during Debalteseve, but then left."
Yeah those that "joined" for a few weeks were called active duty Russian troops.
the DNR-Ukraine border is literally just Papers Please in real life.
Being under an attack by mortars would be fucking terrifying.
My guess is that being _almost_ under attack by mortars is terrifying; being _under direct attack_ by mortars, you're probably dead. - j q t -
as a german i really hope DNR will rise as the victor in this conflict and do so as fast as possible it makes me sick knowing german soldiers are teaching ukrainian nazis how to kill
Alice Lynn Right words, but they can't survive economically without Ukraine, so there is noway for independence. There remains only one possibility of new government overthrow, which is perhaps bringing peace in this country.
Ukraine will do just fine without Russia. They have the EU, NATO, and the Americans. That is more than a good trade!
Simon Phoenix Nah
Too many murica bots in here
yes this channel is loaded with bots. vice lets it happen too
that press vest is comical,you may as well walk around with a bulls eye vest,is vice mandating that?
The license plate at the 2:57 mark
This is Damning. Ukraine was truly the aggressor, truly out of line
Both did it to each other
@@djmorley718 Not in this documentary. The reporter visits the Kiev side of the line too and DNR does not fire on them.
@@SpicyTake Yeah lets just pretend like the Separatists didnt start to forcefully take administrative buildings. They didnt like the fact that the majority of Ukraine wants to move westward and started to use violence. They dont like the concept of democracy. How are Ukrainians supposed to react to that? "Yeah sure just take Donetzk, its fine". ? If these people want to belong to Russia, maybe they should just move to Russia instead of using force and trying to separate the country.
@@LEK Screw off n@zi
@@SpicyTake says the one who supports violent invasion, annexation and annihilation of neighboring states.
don't call it a border
3:00 I didn't know Fidel Castro was fighting in the Ukraine
So many people outraged over Russia and the DNR... one thing they don't realize is that no lines on a map are ever permanent, and that in the end, it is the powerful that triumph, not the ones who hold the moral high ground. One thing I took away from this conflict is that talk is very cheap. Every day I read about the Ukraine conflict, and every day I see how all it is is both sides trying to paint a different portrait while the same shit goes on in Ukraine every day. If you came here to vent about how bad Russia is or how they are hypocrites save yourself some time because it doesn't matter. In the end, every government is hypocritical and blindly consumed by it's own self interest, you only choose not to see it. The best you can do is save your outrage for your next cocktail party and leave the world of politics to those who know how things actually work. All these things happening are not something anyone can control.. they are a raging river and the best anyone can do is try to divert its flow to minimize damage.. but in the end whatever was supposed to happen will happen. I bet most people on here still think WW1 was started by Gavrillo Principe and that 9/11 was the cause of the war on terror. lol
Why are Vice deleting comments on here?
Civilians suffered so much then look at now in 2023...
Simon????? SIMON?!?!?!?! SIMON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don't see Simon asking every DNR soldier whether they were Russian or not. This unsettles me.
It's good to see some evidence that the Ukrainians are also violating the ceasefire for once. The Russian Roulette Series seemed a little biased against the separatists. And the collective punishment regarding the collection of pensions is pretty heinous.
vice got all their trolls in the comments, vice always finds a way to flip the story in kiev favor
seems pointless? just firing in the air?
This war is sad...
the Ukrainian Army and the DPR and any supporters should be ashamed of themselves really....
"..want proof that ceasefire isn't working" - shell conveniently explodes with what sounds like a computer generated sound. Cmon
So who's good and who's bad?
Mastersway Well Ukraine just want to get their land back...
Mastersway No such thing as good guys and bad guys. Life is more complicated than that.
Mastersway He is saying we just want peace but they are the ones who started it
kevjtnbtmglr He is prolly 'Murican. Can't blame him lol
PANTSMONSTER66
No. First those provinces were invaded by Russia. Then they held fake elections.
No more "Russian Roulette"?
7:29 Cat
Nice, how one sided and pro-Ukraine news reporter he is. He is assuming that the crater was created by the train explosion, seriously.
There’s no denying that they’re terrorists though, so being anti-Ukraine is essentially being pro-terrorist.
History repeats itself .
1% of 10 million is 10 thousand this dude is genius 7:37
The population of the city is about 1 million.
Vice is like aljazeera
but but the Americans and Europeans say the rebels are the one shelling. They believe Ukraine
Are sleeveless shirts with horizontal stripes a common Russian clothing or something? Like an American white sleeveless undershirt?
So you want to live in a new state but go to the old country for money medicines and all supply and your pension and then state how great the new state and how free it is......ammmm I hate humans.......
am so confused , who r the good guys ?
no one this is war there are no good guys
Crazy ole world...