What happened to Giant Walking Machines?
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It had problems with snow speeders that could shoot towlines, and tiny teddybears with spears
But is fantastic for punching alien queens in the face
Or simply falling in a whole and having to call international rescue to get them out😂😂😂😂 THUNDERBIRDS ARE GO
Works pretty well to beat the living daylights out of Xenomorph queens, I was told.
Or the common cold
It looks like something a 6 year old would draw. That thing is *ugly*!
And what genius put two spindly arms at the front corners, which would be the weakest connection, and where they get the least amount of purchase. Not to mention balance issues.
Of course it's just a prototype, but still. It's a baffling choice of form.
I heard that the Russians built wanted their walker to be able to cross swamps. So, the scientists followed moose a round to see how they did it. Only to find that the moose would go around the swamp.
Easiest way to traverse swamps : NO GOING INTO THE FRIGGING SWAMP
😂😂😂
Are moose good swimmers too?
Yes, all Russians went to the swamp that year. WTF are "the Russians"? This is just as weird as "the Americans". Who are they? It's billions of them.
@@ScionStorm1yes, they are.
I feel like everything robotic on two legs have to look futuristic but never a box on legs.
just like jaegers from pacific rim
I actually love the idea of a janky box mech squaring of with a jaeger
Well to bad, 80% of today walking mechs are either boxy or clunky.
You my friend are clearly unaware of the awesome power of a dreadnought from Warhammer 40k
? That sentence is not clear. I’m assuming you are saying a walking robot should look futuristic and not like a “box on legs”?
The US just wanted an AT-ST
Earth Wars
Being an evil empire, that would fit them perfectly
@@Henry_the_Eighth_yeah and russia and china are the saviors of the earth .praise kim！
Ewok hunt was the worst part of Vietnam
@@Henry_the_Eighth_ ur moms butt is an evil empire
Get in the damn Pedipulator, Shinji!
> The engineer who designed it was the only one who ever figured out how to pilot it effectively.
> Even attempting to pilot it would physically and mentally drain the pilot at an alarming rate.
Yeah, that tracks.
You only had to follow the pedipulator, CJ!!!
That machine would have been terrifying at night on the battlefield
Add a third leg for extra stability and an external speaker so the operator can scream *UUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!* at the enemy
Terrifying in DAYLIGHT
Engineers TODAY couldn't balance a machine that top-heavy, on two legs; Definitely not with the manoeuvrability needed in a combat zone
That thing would basically just be a target, on stilts. And the more you armour it, the more top-heavy (so unstable and slow) it gets.
One of the dumbest designs/concepts I ever saw.
I second that! Its already terrifying to look at in the daytime for how hideous it looks!
the 50 year old RPG-7 aimed right at its leg:
@@paw0960 😏
Get in the robot, Shinji! Or the KGB will sabotage it again.
So this is how NERV in US ceased to exist? 😂
@@mariuszmoraw3571the Massachussets branch of NERV could not sustain itself even with the Magi computers. ☠️
Ewoks are the reason why we can't have nice things.
😂
Lucas was a real life Jedi
Damn those wokes. 🫨
😂😂😂 no pun intended 😅
if your nice things look like imperial weapons platforms, probably you shouldnt get anything at all.
Broke: "What happened to giant walking machines?"
Woke: "How feasible is METAL GEAR?"
Bespoke: "We need to be working on myomer bundles, lads. I want my Urbie."
Hideo Kojima approves this message lol
Excuse me if I misunderstood but don't you go broke if you go woke?
@@OmegaReaver You would think that would be necessary but the United States actually already has an intelligent programmable Metal that can work like super muscle, It's not even new It became public knowledge I want to say back in like 2015? They haven't really used it for anything but I do remember it's going to be implemented into the next generation air dominance fighter program, It was so part of the Marine corps Heavy Power Armour program before it was cancelled to instead focus on the exoskeleton program.😢
I'm actually a little bit sad about this one, The army version of the Power Armour program looks cool and all, I like how purpose build it is With it's shoulder mounted .50 cal and looking like The Goliath from advanced warfare.
But the Marine corps one was just so insanely cool, I mean only the Marines would be balls to the wall enough to try and make something That looked like a mix between space Marine tacticus plate and Spartan Mjolnir armor.
It was so freaking cool but considering it was estimated to cost about a million dollars each I can fully understand why it was canceled.... Still we were so damn close to greatness....
@@anarchyandempires5452whe need to remember that the first eletric car was invented when the gas car was. Immagine a world where this technology Is update and used
They'd need to make this thing look at least 35% less derpy to get my support lol
I drew robots like that when I was 7 years old.
I think they need to look 35% MORE derpy. If we're going to build wacky, mad-scientist robots, they need to look the part.
The working prototype doesn't always look the best but it is interesting. I would go for a cylindrical body like the on the movie the incredible's.
Ah yes Star Trek the very first Sci Fi universe that comes to mind when I think of giant walking machines.
fr
ikr XD
Lol
Its controlled by guesstures
Everyone should be permitted to own a personal Urbie. A well meched society is a peaceful society.
A donkey does transport functions across rough territory, including mountains and jungles, is able to execute voice commands, is low profile / low visible, is able to self fuel using local plant resources, can swim, is not harmed by water and is very cheap. They even self replicate.
Imagine how cool modern military horse armor would look, they can even add a long spike on its helmet so it can Impale enemies lol
So do horses - and that's why militaries across the world still use them.
But no side mounted machine guns. Except in Metal Slug.
Are you implying *BIO MECHS* , my G? Sick.
@@trublgrl could be easily added, but they would need to be trained to use them :)
The balancing solution is actually pretty ingenious.
I think one tech that could greatly boost this would be artificial muscles.
The main problem would remain power, however.
Yeah, if only they had some kind of compact fusion power plant, and a helmet that could interpret the pilot's sense of balance to keep the machine upright when running and jumping.... 🤔
@@evangardner9067 We could call it a Battle...Battle...a BattleBot!
@@brll5733 or a Gund--Bot!
Just make it something like a toy robot and slap that thing with a nuclear battery, the Chinese built one that last for 50 years, so why not built a bigger one with more capacity/output. That will solve the problem.
@@leogazebo5290it becomes a weight to power output ratio thats a very fine line to get right. Its why we dont have atomic planes, well than and the potential for a nuclear disaster. Nuclear batteries and solid state nuclear power plants have existed since the early days, the problem is they are very heavy and dont put out enough power for the use cases we have. That and they are highly radioactive and will kill the operator if we arent careful.
i think its hilarious that mobile suits are mostly possible and we've tried our goddamn hardest to build them and we just never had the money or practical application for them
Construction will always have a use for 2 big hands
Japan already made mobile suits.... they have the 1:1 master grade RX-78-2
@@Menaceblue3 I think it would be a true grade something over the perfect grade
They never found a dense enough power source. They all have to have an electrical umbilical.
They would have to carry a nuclear reactor to work properly. Very risky and dangerous. Gotta make the power source Tony stark had.
METAL GEAR!!!????
no...A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
No , it can't be
LIIQUIIIIIIIDDD!!!
Kojima is GOD?!
❗
If we chased this tech tree far enough, we could've had Battlemechs by now
Anakin Skywalker called. He wants to talk to you about those Imperial walkers. 😁
Yoda says posner molecules are midichlorians
A couple of machine guns and a medium laser and you've got a Locust 1V prototype. :)
You just need some jump jets.
I see you are a man of culture as well!
A Flea
A two legged sidewinder, thunderbirds fans will understand
Pit of Peril!
Facts
My first thought seeing it too.
I was looking for a comment about this lol
2:40 I like the worried looking little girls in the background watching the robotic arms twirling a hula hoop!
We sent them all to Pandora to enslave blue cat aliens.
Obligatory "A weapon to surpass Metal Gear!" comment
Obviously what we need are blimps that float just above the ground with little cords that shoot out and allow it to pull itself along the ground. Bonus points for using science to make the cords stiffen and launch the thing along.
John Deere had a prototype for a walking forest machine. They got it when they bought Finnish company Plustech. Sadly nothing came of it, but it looked super cool.
There’s a few such machines in production.
John Deere 2045: Welcome to the era of Nuclear Reactor Tractors
As far as i'm aware , the only issue it had is that it was very slow , but i think if you made a version with modern materials that won't be a issue
Man, you gotta love the 50s, what a time to be a drugged out engineer
I remember watching an episode of Thunderbirds where they had a walking machine. Obviously influenced by this idea.
Sidewinder, in "Pit of Peril". But the image of it picking up fallen trees with telescopic claws makes me think more of the logging machine Crablogger.
This is also where the idea for the Imperial walkers in Star Wars came from.
@@terrylong8894Really? I thought they were based off chickens. Because chicken-walker?
@@That_Animation_Guy501st The original conception of the Battle of Hoth actually involved tanks, but George Lucas read a magazine article about a proposed plan to use mechs for transporting people and cargo over long distances and decided that that would be more visually interesting.
Less MechWarrior & more Heavy Gear.
Freebirth. Lol.
The issue with mechs will always stem from a few difficult problems to solve.
1. The pressure exerted by the surface of the foot will be too large and will always fall short when compared to tracked vehicles.
2. The amount of power needed to actuate the hydraulics and/or pneumatic cylinders is too far a technological leap from today's capabilities.
3. The mobility boost you would get from the mech and being bipedal wouldn't be as beneficial as one would think because of the weight and balance issue as stated in issue 1.
4. Materials. The amount of strength the legs would need to hold up the chassis + anything else the arms need to lift up would be insane. We would also need to make the entire chassis out of a high strength, low density material which is extremely expensive.
Although I love mechs and wish a company would take on a project like this again, it's very unlikely. IIRC, the clip we see at 13:09 is of a company based in Korea that went under numerous sexual harassment issues and eventually shut down. The Kuratas which is based in Japan and the mech MegaBots produced are the closest we have a an actual functioning mech in today's world. Hopefully Boston Dynamics makes significant breakthroughs within our lifetime so this idea and tech can be pushed further!
Plus are there any application these things are suitable for that we akready have solutions for?
Ground pressure isnt a problem if theyre shorter than 15 feet
So, what if we attach torso to a tank instead of turret? I'm looking at you RX-75 Guntank.
But yeah, the only place I would see humanoid mechs, would be in space as some kind of asteroid mining robots, at least for me, a large robot able to accurately mimic human movements would be more comfortable than any other type of machine we use on earth. You know human miners but now in gundams💀
@@erikvan9582 AFAIK theirr general proposed utility is less in being better than a specialized vehicle, but in being able to do lots of things good enough - by virtue of being just "a big human".
@@somdudewillson With the inherent weaknesses a structure like what these things have they are never going to have a proper advantage over a group of specialized vehicles in terms of both performance and cost.Honestly speaking I don't understand why we are trying to do things like achieving human like bipedality and humanoid appearnace in these robots.apart from toys which isn't exactly what the global priority should be on these things.We have much more interesting capabilities and technologies to develop so robots are going to have more real world applications that would benefit us
All I can think when I see this thing is
Robot: "What is my purpose?"
Rick Sanchez: "You pass butter."
Boston Dynamics has Spot. How hard could it be to make it a little bigger and attach handle bars and a seat?
7:44 Someone clearly has never tried to make a good roast
I feel that a Spider Tank would be more practical for military use, than a Bipedal Tank.
Just think a vehicle shaped like a Spider but with a Tank Turret on top.
Ah Spider tanks
Does whatever a spider tank does
Will Smith would like to talk to you; or maybe just slap you.
So... Ghost In The Shell?
Add 1 more leg, and: *THE ARTILLERYMAN AND THE FIGHTING MACHINE INTENSIFIES*
*UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!*
You also need metal tentacles and a Heat-Ray.
@@zh84 BWOOOOW WOOOOOW WOOOOW WOOOOOW WOOOOOOOOOOOW
@@Phantoms3Dzone You stop it or I'll give you my Earth germs ;-)
@@zh84 TWO LUMINOUS, DISC LIKE EYES APPEARED ABOVE THE RIM. A HUGE ROUNDED BULK, LARGER THAN A BEAR, ROSE UP SLOWLY.
It is quite impressive that such a system was functional in that time period.
Gone, reduced to atoms.
I know it's just a sponsor segment, but bringing up Star Trek in a video like this actually brings up an interesting point in my opinion: Walking "mech suit" type machines are indeed quite a staple of sci-fi, and it's probably a safe bet that Star Trek is up there in the top 2 or 3 most popular sci-fi franchises of all time. Yet despite having lots of "robots" and "androids" around, I don't think we've ever seen any type of walking vehicles in it. I mean I guess it makes sense in a universe where anti-gravity has been invented, as you rarely (but not never) see wheeled vehicles either. Still I think it's surprising that such a classic sci-fi technology has, as far as I can recall, never been featured in one of the biggest sci-fi franchises.
Hooray. The early years of what a Gundam was in real life.
Man, it looks like the Madcat/Timberwolf at home.
A Rakshasa?
@@screenmonkey oh, yup, forgot about that mech. Yeah, this is even worse than the Rakshasa but then it's mid 20th century tech.
We were so close to have the future I wanted. I can't help but imagine what the world we be like now if people had continued to pursue mecha technology.
People have tried quite hard to make mechs a thing, they just aren't that viable as if right now sadly... Though there could be a produced mech named "Archax" look it up its cool
Fascism. Brittania. Area 11.
Mechs have failed mainly because they're unnecessarily complex - each leg requires very complex gear settings, electronic support and suspension, possibly with software to prevent it from things like tipping over or movement itself. Most of the job they claim to be able to do can be much more easily done with a horse (and yes, horse calvary is still a real thing in militaries - Polish Army makes very extensive research on that). Places like rogue, muddy pathways can be easily traversed with tracked vehicles (smaller ones can traverse through almost everything - that's why military infantry assist robots are often tracked and look like small tanks), and for most places simple, wheeled car is more than enough.
On top of that, there is no point in giant mechs that could fit a human - they can be controlled remotely, without risking soldier's life, or often be fully automatic. It would also make no sense to waste so much materials, fuel, ammunition and electronics on machine, that can only be operated by a single soldier (and which would be a very easy target for enemy anti-tank artillery).
as an enthousiast of both cold war engeneering and fallout this video made my day!
2:25 "Each guess-ture... " Has this Aussie voice been AI all along?
2:46 people were already worried about Cyberpsychosis even back then 😅😂🤣
As Star Wars: Return of The Jedi showed, "walkers" can be taken down by very low tech means. Naturally, in the real world, it would be much harder to make it work than it did for the Ewoks.
In 2024, we have more advanced active defenses, than The Empire had, in a Galaxy Far Far Away.
Examples:
The smashing logs? Turned to splinters mid-swing by APS.
Riding walker legs? Good luck, when they're covered in MI-controlled detonatable multi-layer ERA.
Tripping? The multi-spectral sensors and active data fusion surveillance would've seen it, and warned the operator.
Us military: "could you makea weapon to...."
Ralf: "surpass metal gear?"
Us military: *hands giant bag of money to ralph*
This kind of reminds me of the "Sidewinder" from the classicThunderbirds series.
This looks more fit as an SCP
The picture of Ralph at 1:52 was actually used in a Series III article.
So, MetalGears actually existed... almost
Welp, I think this makes it clear we should leave the giant robots to Japan heh.
I like how a bunch of scientists got together and ruled there's a good likelihood of someone going robot crazy while using a mech.
They weren't wrong.
Patlabor plot is basically that lol
A 4 legged or 6 legged robot would be more useful for army purposes however as leg length increases in general electric powered legged robots are not very energetically efficient since the battery pack would exceed the physical dimensions of the robot. A wheeled or tracked vehicle is more or less ideal thats what Army uses right now
Not only that, small tracked vehicles can traverse through almost everything and can easily be remotely controlled.
@@Admiral45-10 I'm still talking about gigantic tracked or wheeled machines vs legged ones
@tonystarks315 yes, and I've added, that as military is switching to smaller and smaller war machinery, tracked vehicles outmatch legged ones in utility.
@@Admiral45-10 LoL I'm saying as the scale goes up from say mule size to gigantic war machines, wheels are better than legs energetically
The advantage of valkers was to be the ability to move high above the vegetation.... However, in practice the mechanical control of movement and especially its precision was something that never reached the stage of usability .Today, with the assistance of electronics, it should be possible, but everything is a question of the cheapest solution
Pedipulator: I am your Father.
AT-ST: Nooooo!
Seems like you forgot the GE Beetle mech, which did leave the lab but never got used due to the project it to was intended to be used to maintenance being cancelled(Nuclear powered bombers). However the control system and arms were reused in some submersibles
Military applications are the last thing that I could imagine. They try to make tanks ride lower to the ground so that they are harder to target ... these things stick up line a sore thumb. And, of course, the worst thing is that the failure mode is so much worse than for a tracked or wheeled vehicle.
You can hear him trying to hold back the laughter
An alternative history where walking machines replaced all wheeled vehicles as a major form of transportation and combat would be nice.
The Russian version was probably, most definitely "nuclear powered", bypassing the power consumption issue and could likely run on vodka in a pinch.
soo, a titan then?
there was no russian version
Gives me War of the Worlds vibe but 2 legs 😂
This thing could go toe to toe with the tripods.
1:19 - if it's piloted instead of worn, it's not a suit. It's a Mech.
I think the fictional exoskeleton suit from Avatar', "AMP SUIT " is the closest thing to the one in this video maybe that is where the writers got inspiration from
My god that walking animation made me laugh
Maybe one day, in space, the principality of ZEON will make one of this monstrosity and call it a Zaku.
Sieg Zeon!!!
And then they get shot do death bevause their a big easy target and gundanium or other such netals are bullshit🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I guarantee you, if they ever made one, the pilot would puke his guts out 😂
This was really fun, thank you for posting it. I had never heard of this vehicle before.
One minor animation error @9:17 - the right leg is just floating in the air. (These animations are really cool! I'm not trying to nitpick, rather it made me laugh seeing the foot float, but also drove home how precarious this thing was!)
Please make video on
🔴 spiral orbiter mig 105 space fighter jet
🔴cryslar TV8 tank
🔴 German giraffe tank concept
Now we know where George Lucas got his ideas...
the prototypes for the, C&C Tiberian Sun GDI Mechanized Walkers, the Wolverine, Titan, Juggernaut, and the Mammoth Mk. II
Nothing happened to them. We've never have had the power density to create them yet. We solved the balancing controls issue, but Squared-Cube Law still prevents us from scaling it up.
Huh
I recall reading about this in my "Weekly Reader" children's newspaper back in 4th grade. Even the word "Pedipulater" tickled me.
There are numerous engineering reasons why walking machines never took off. Center of gravity, for starters. Then, there are power demands that electricity nor internal combustion can handle. Not to mention that complex assemblies need microprocessor controllers, which won't even be a thing until the eighties.
That retro walking machine was pure Jonny Quest fantasy!
The four legged walking machine is in an Army Museum in Ft Eustis Virginia. It still exists and is pretty cool to look at.
"What should I make? Washing machine or giant fucking robots and machine guns?"
As soon as someone invents purely electro-mechanical (rather than *thermo*-mechanical) muscles, a lot of one unworkable designs will come back to life.
These all look like something the Orks from WH40K would come up with.
Where the fuck are my shadow boxing Real Steel fighting robots?
I have this video playing while playing Battletech. LOL.
so glad youtube recommended this channel. instant sub
8:27 Wasn't expecting to see an Italian journal depicting a two legged robot originally tought for the Vietnam War
It’s crazy to think about the world we would have had if the walker and exoskeleton ideas grew into practical solutions.
Have you ever seen the floating platform that a sniper could get in and it floats in the air Imagine if that type of stuff seen mass production.
2:25 I've heard a lot of words pronounced weirdly but never heard "Gesture" pronounced with a hard G.
2:58 Here's an example of where a retake is perfectly fine. An Thro Pro Morph Us.
We’re 1/4th of the way to that Gideon mech
"It is the 31st century, and mankind is once again at war. The battlefields of the future are dominated by huge robotic war machines known as BattleMechs. Piloting these awesome weapons of war are men and women, the elite of the elite, knowing that each battle could be their last. They are MechWarriors."
Yes, when I think of walkers star trek comes to mind. Like the scenes that never had walking machines where spock and kirk were fighting the teddy bears and they were using light sabers too. 😮
Either way, given what happened in Iraq from 2003 to 2011, any mechs deployed there will be easily taken out since its legs is very likely vulnerable to IEDs, and putting significant armor planets on the legs will make is heavy and immobile.
At the least when tanks loses its tracks, it is still "upright position", whereas the mech without one or all of its legs will be hard to balance.
That looks like it would fall over right when the first leg is lifted😂
It has soo many flaws, but the biggest one is that even the slightest damage to a single leg can put 2 and 4 leg machines out of action, and wheels and tracks are just far more reliable.
Far easier to fix as well.
Damn it, we where so close to having gundams.
I think caterpillar and others construction equipment, making companies have probably revise the idea and we may see them announcing this new light remember when one company announced the quantum computer other companies follow behind
A big problem they had was stabilization. They did not have gyros that could adapt fast enough to keep balance when off angle walking.
Modern day we have the computers that could sensor this stuff using AN ACCELEROMETER combined with gyro scopes we could keep this technology upright and moving.
There a real world machines in practical use which makes me think of mechanical scifi walkers or weird specialized robotd when in operation - walking excavators operating on steep slopes or other difficult terrain. They aren't set on wheels all around like a normal excavator but have a reduced number of wheels and some "limbs" instead, sometimes wheels on such individually controllable limbs as well while the excavators arm gets used as another very dextere limb as well not only to manipulate itssurroundings but also tu perform sort of a knuckle work to shift and move the excavator as if it would crawl over land.
I've always thought power supply would be the biggest problem holding this back.
Still is
To me it's their sheer size and massive amounts of failpoints - something as simple as a rope, tied around its legs, can easily tip it over and trap the operator in now useless machine. Other than that, it's large, slow and makes operator very visible - a perfect target for enemy anti-tank artillery.
When I’m looking a video I always end up coming to yours!
Some day they might invent.... giant mechs with actual KNEES. I think six legged mech might work. You would need to move the legs in a sequence that could land on the front four in a stable way, and then move the back legs, and then repeat. A kind of big shuffly robot. Even if you solve the balance issues in normal civilian appilcations, a war robot needs to be basically a tank, if it doesn't move fast it needs to be able to withstand being hit. These things look like small arms fire would destroy them.
This thing is so ridiculous, i need one
that 4 legged machine is one of the coolest contraptions ever built. Amazed I've never heard of it before. The footage is astounding
My guess is some people learned about physics and how walkers would never work with humans building them.
13:10 sneaking a south korean mech clip from 2017 while talking about boston dynamics. Clever XDXD
Ngl, I'm so relieved there's finally a new ad lol