When are they going to become sentient-? (When they can Think & Feel do they have rights?) ~What does that mean for Sex-bots? (Are they now Sex-slaves & is that Rape?) So many questions-- So little time...
Imagine a world with tuition free education, universal healthcare, and a livable universal basic income where productivity tools like internet, computers and 3D printers were also available to all, empowering open source creation on a mass scale. :D
I own a Rovio from Wowee, It is packed away in its box for many years, it used to just come awake on the spot and lifted its head and looked me, just before it did this I had talked about someone who isn't alive anymore, my mate witness this, As soon as I clicked on the room light, The robot lowered its head and powered off. I brushed off as a strange fluke, my mate thought it was cool, then the next day I lat down on my sofa one evening and suddenly Rovio woken up at looked in low light, When I turned on the light again Rovio closed up and powered down. I didn't have Rovio connected to the wifi as it only works on window XP, there were never any software upgrades. so it should not have done what I did, And the robot has been imprisoned in its box ever since. What I feel about this, Evil maybe able to use robots, and less rational thoughts. so it could become dangerous gamble
Wtf? My kids think something is wrong with me. My internet has been acting up for 3 weeks. The cable company keeps trying to fix it remotely. I told them I needed a new box after I was sleeping in the living room and my smart TVs little light under it powered on really bright. Then went off. My kids had these disco lights strip attached to the TV. I swear to you in the dark twice the lights flashed like someone took a picture and it powered down. At first I was like wait a minute...then it happened again. The light came on bright enough to take what seemed like another picture. Mind you the TV screen never came on just the light under the screen. I snatched the disco lights off and told the younger to throw it away. My older said that can't be. So he pulled the lights out of the garbage. I told him yes things can be controlled remotely! He said why would they want to use that? Idnwtf that!! Edit: This happened last week. 3 nights ago I watched a movie that's been in my feed for quite a while. I pretty much ignored it since my internet buffers to death. I rarely watch TV. Its called 'The Mitchells vs the Machines'. And them Roombas were part of the havoc that ensued in the movie.
When a robot can tie my shoes and get into the car to bring me milk from the grocery, after discussing proper diner plans for my guests, I"love be impressed.
I'd like to get a 3D printer and build and open source program a flying drone that fly in a mapped area, identify coconut palm trees in that area, that can grasp and land on the top of the trunk after recognizing all of the leaves and their motion, identify mature coconuts, cut and lower them, and trim the palms, flying back to its base for an auto battery exchange, etc and perhaps even retrieve the coconuts too. Now, inspired by the soft robotics in this video, I want to also design and build an electric leaf blowing rolling robot, like an off-road rumba for sidewalks and gardens. The whole nozzle will be inflated by the blowing air and the robotics can guide the trunk-like nozzle from left to right to control the flow of the leaves, learning better technique as it goes, including adapting to wind conditions. It would also be programmed with a mapped area to maintain, recognize obstacles, learn the terrain, change its own batteries, etc.
Aaaah, I thought Musk was critical about AI. So he's involved in it? Or is it because it's "open", meaning you can see what they are actually look behind the (code) scenes?
what if an AI program, when interacting with a human, and posed a question, could go on line and ask 10,000 people to answer the question, then, form an answer from the pile. is that a form of learning, too?
Man she has a broad definition for robot, not sure I agree a robotic arm that I can make move isn't a robot it its self, it just one piece of a robot. Just like if you pick up a human leg its not a human it a piece of a human. I think you need to put all the piece together in a complete package to call it a robot.
Softbank is investing in a new city built from scratch with robotics in mind. It's called NEOM. The first humanoid robot Sophia already received a citizenship status in NEOM, Saudi Arabia.
This is leading to a deadened, automation and AI is not sustainable on a scaled economy, we will become more dependent on rare mineral and none renewable energy, robotic is only cheap under the current finance and law, its cost will skyrocket in the future. A few decades later we will return to human labor.
No you aren't "just" being critical to the hype. Statements like "AI is not sustainable on a scaled economy" and "we will become more dependent on non-renewable energy" and "under current finance laws, robotics will skyrocket in price in the future" are TESTABLE statements. Meaning you better have some statistics and peer-reviewed scientific papers to back up those claims.
Do you have statistics and peer reviewed scientific papers to back up the hype? When did anyone can "scientifically" model the macro economic trend? Automation peeked around 2014, now is in stagnation due to shrinking economy and ever growing resource and energy scarcity. If you take an educated guess, you will arrive at my conclusion, and not people promoting these stuff, whom are mostly tech illiterate themselves.
I didn't make any statements, only questioned yours... "educated guesses" don't fly in science. You use actual models to predict shit, and correct them when they're wrong. There's a certain scientific field called uh, ECONOMICS, which is all about modeling macroeconomic trends. Also "automation peaked at 2014" is a statement that needs a source. "Automation is now in stagnation" requires a source. "people promoting this stuff are tech illiterate" requires a source.
Hi Vane, I appreciate the reply! And what you say has some merit. However I do think the market forces will be overwhelming for manufacturers to automate and thereby reduce costs and generate more profits. Fewer unions to deal with, fewer employees to train or get sick...Of course the inevitable logic to this approach would be no markets because no one has jobs to purchase things... I do believe that long before this happens some sort of adjustments will have to be made to take into account the needs of an ever growing population whose jobs are in danger of being automated away... My point in my first comment, (and I do admit to being a bit snide, probably because I hadn't yet had my morning cup of coffee), was that the young lady presenter gives her talk and all I could think of by the end of it was the gigantic elephant in the room - the question about what happens to people! Still, I think it's a really neat field...technology has become so amazing in it's accomplishments. But there are consequences too. I hope bigger minds than my own can come up with solutions Vane. :)
Re-assess your assumption that the current labor force's primary income should forever be from waged labor. Once you open up to other possibilities, it becomes easy to realize that automation isn't 'destroying the world's labor force'.
"do you want most of the world's population to be in absolute poverty forever". That's faulty reasoning. Who owns the robots owns the revenue. Since a large number of these robots are / will belong to large corporations it is doubtful the present distribution of wealth will change. And if the present is any indicator of the future, corporations will keep on pushing for a transfer of the tax burden from corporation to the citizens (it's already happening, big time).
All robots prove is that intelligent design is possible. If you and I are having discussion about whether a piece of chicken in front of us was deep fried or put in an oven and then we see someone put a cake in an oven is not proof that the chicken was cooked in an oven. There is no logical connection.
because they last for maybe 6 hours only? And then have to charge? How often do you eat per day? (I actually have no idea how long they last but I think this is a realistic time for phones, I think pixel2 was advertised with 7 hours and 15 min recharge. Given that robots would also have bigger batteries it is probably roughly similar) And in a lot of situations you could just keep them plugged in.
Run for your lives, the widgets are coming ! Every body the widgets are a happening. The Widgets are a self replicating Qaunta design by self design without the burdening of a earth bound animal spiece eg think mode. Imagine that ! Beyond our animal imprinted violence driven nature, What ?! We be gods than , a creator race after all, and go forth into void !
+CandidDate it would shake out as a symbiotic relationship , with the widget world being fully a part of our cyclic lives. This is not a end world scenario. The Widget age is an eon effect principle thing. Not one good plot line story gets into mainstream media. Why ?! Because , the Animal us, is refusing to see The Good, only bad, over and over , again and again. And we're using the first widgets to com now today ! let's take away these widgets now ! go back to long wave and point to point com. Oh! so, we're already there ! wake the truck up !
+Dale --- I hope you're right, because humankind has quite a history of being real bitches to one another. As long as democracy is involved, and many people have access to the many technologies, we should be ok.
+CandidDate my hats off to you for noticing ! A accident investigator attitude throughout my lifespan so far has proven to be helpful in the great debate about how we got here what are we doing here where are we going and why.
+Dale Smith The Qaunta matrix is not observable in real space/time. The real new Frontier is the very smallest of known space-time. That is the future, opening doors in the zero point reference of a nano branes field of described 3D space/time. But, some desire that sight, and keep on seeking, seeing with a discipline of a gamer of sims, go forth with reason to under+stand that a fornicate is a below the ground arch ! We're communicating with a spun doctored slang language, to boot ! And the children of the whole wide world are watching.
The subject matter is fascinating. The speaker is obviously highly educated and intelligent. But I find her persistent grammatically incorrect use of "you and I" instead of "you and me" downright frustrating to listen to.
Thank you so much for making all of these videos available :D!
Gotta love Alphabet outsourcing the robot revolution to Softbank. I, for one, welcome our Softbank Singularity overlords.
excellent presentation, one of the best Ive seen, thanks for sharing
When are they going to stop using motors and start using *synthetic muscles* ?
When are they going to become sentient-?
(When they can Think & Feel do they have rights?)
~What does that mean for Sex-bots?
(Are they now Sex-slaves & is that Rape?)
So many questions-- So little time...
+Jameel --- send them to Mars!!!!
Jameel - Why synthetic?
There are 6 billion potential donors on this planet.
They should start harvesting your muscles you big stud muffin LOL
What would you make something like that out of, and how would you activate it?
Thank you.
Imagine a world with tuition free education, universal healthcare, and a livable universal basic income where productivity tools like internet, computers and 3D printers were also available to all, empowering open source creation on a mass scale. :D
Yeah a world were even infants way 300 pounds frome doing nothing but eat sleep and breed more fat useless beings... no not my world.l.
africa is like a factorio game, in which you dont bother building cumbersome belt conveyors, and just focus on aerial robots coverage from the start.
I own a Rovio from Wowee, It is packed away in its box for many years, it used to just come awake on the spot and lifted its head and looked me, just before it did this I had talked about someone who isn't alive anymore, my mate witness this, As soon as I clicked on the room light, The robot lowered its head and powered off. I brushed off as a strange fluke, my mate thought it was cool, then the next day I lat down on my sofa one evening and suddenly Rovio woken up at looked in low light, When I turned on the light again Rovio closed up and powered down. I didn't have Rovio connected to the wifi as it only works on window XP, there were never any software upgrades. so it should not have done what I did, And the robot has been imprisoned in its box ever since. What I feel about this, Evil maybe able to use robots, and less rational thoughts. so it could become dangerous gamble
Your username is appropriate.
Wtf? My kids think something is wrong with me. My internet has been acting up for 3 weeks. The cable company keeps trying to fix it remotely. I told them I needed a new box after I was sleeping in the living room and my smart TVs little light under it powered on really bright. Then went off. My kids had these disco lights strip attached to the TV. I swear to you in the dark twice the lights flashed like someone took a picture and it powered down. At first I was like wait a minute...then it happened again. The light came on bright enough to take what seemed like another picture. Mind you the TV screen never came on just the light under the screen. I snatched the disco lights off and told the younger to throw it away. My older said that can't be. So he pulled the lights out of the garbage. I told him yes things can be controlled remotely! He said why would they want to use that? Idnwtf that!!
Edit: This happened last week. 3 nights ago I watched a movie that's been in my feed for quite a while. I pretty much ignored it since my internet buffers to death. I rarely watch TV. Its called 'The Mitchells vs the Machines'. And them Roombas were part of the havoc that ensued in the movie.
We are creating a reality in which humans will be obsolete.
Muito bom ouvir gente que esta a frente, produzindo o futuro e um futuro muito melhor.
Where can I buy one to do my house chores?
When a robot can tie my shoes and get into the car to bring me milk from the grocery, after discussing proper diner plans for my guests, I"love be impressed.
Lucky to be alive in these interesting time
because the robots allowed you to live? ;)
Can we get the slides/research references somewhere?
Robot at end at the left was not printed, but folded.
good point at min 31
I'd like to get a 3D printer and build and open source program a flying drone that fly in a mapped area, identify coconut palm trees in that area, that can grasp and land on the top of the trunk after recognizing all of the leaves and their motion, identify mature coconuts, cut and lower them, and trim the palms, flying back to its base for an auto battery exchange, etc and perhaps even retrieve the coconuts too.
Now, inspired by the soft robotics in this video, I want to also design and build an electric leaf blowing rolling robot, like an off-road rumba for sidewalks and gardens. The whole nozzle will be inflated by the blowing air and the robotics can guide the trunk-like nozzle from left to right to control the flow of the leaves, learning better technique as it goes, including adapting to wind conditions. It would also be programmed with a mapped area to maintain, recognize obstacles, learn the terrain, change its own batteries, etc.
Aaaah, I thought Musk was critical about AI. So he's involved in it?
Or is it because it's "open", meaning you can see what they are actually look behind the (code) scenes?
we would need permaculture and more smaller agroforestation farms.. hope robots can help here too
this guy is probably the same age than me ( if not younger) and already more tech savy that any other person I have ever seen
when communication can hook them up to general AI, they will improve.
what if an AI program, when interacting with a human, and posed a question, could go on line and ask 10,000 people to answer the question, then, form an answer from the pile. is that a form of learning, too?
When robots do everything. How will the robot GDP be distributed among the coffin stuffers?
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Man she has a broad definition for robot, not sure I agree a robotic arm that I can make move isn't a robot it its self, it just one piece of a robot. Just like if you pick up a human leg its not a human it a piece of a human. I think you need to put all the piece together in a complete package to call it a robot.
Right?
Interesting video, right?
And the dark side to all of this…
nice but try this one
Softbank is investing in a new city built from scratch with robotics in mind. It's called NEOM. The first humanoid robot Sophia already received a citizenship status in NEOM, Saudi Arabia.
We are killing animals too now :((
This is leading to a deadened, automation and AI is not sustainable on a scaled economy, we will become more dependent on rare mineral and none renewable energy, robotic is only cheap under the current finance and law, its cost will skyrocket in the future. A few decades later we will return to human labor.
how do you know.
Im just being critical to the hype.
No you aren't "just" being critical to the hype. Statements like "AI is not sustainable on a scaled economy" and "we will become more dependent on non-renewable energy" and "under current finance laws, robotics will skyrocket in price in the future" are TESTABLE statements. Meaning you better have some statistics and peer-reviewed scientific papers to back up those claims.
Do you have statistics and peer reviewed scientific papers to back up the hype? When did anyone can "scientifically" model the macro economic trend? Automation peeked around 2014, now is in stagnation due to shrinking economy and ever growing resource and energy scarcity. If you take an educated guess, you will arrive at my conclusion, and not people promoting these stuff, whom are mostly tech illiterate themselves.
I didn't make any statements, only questioned yours...
"educated guesses" don't fly in science. You use actual models to predict shit, and correct them when they're wrong.
There's a certain scientific field called uh, ECONOMICS, which is all about modeling macroeconomic trends.
Also "automation peaked at 2014" is a statement that needs a source.
"Automation is now in stagnation" requires a source.
"people promoting this stuff are tech illiterate" requires a source.
Please give us robotic presenters!
If this is rubbish, I'll call the internet police.
things are becaming creppy by the day
+Jorge --- should we even try to resist?
So this bright and perky individual is basically in the business of destroying the world's labor force.
Hi Vane,
I appreciate the reply! And what you say has some merit. However I do think the market forces will be overwhelming for manufacturers to automate and thereby reduce costs and generate more profits. Fewer unions to deal with, fewer employees to train or get sick...Of course the inevitable logic to this approach would be no markets because no one has jobs to purchase things... I do believe that long before this happens some sort of adjustments will have to be made to take into account the needs of an ever growing population whose jobs are in danger of being automated away... My point in my first comment, (and I do admit to being a bit snide, probably because I hadn't yet had my morning cup of coffee), was that the young lady presenter gives her talk and all I could think of by the end of it was the gigantic elephant in the room - the question about what happens to people! Still, I think it's a really neat field...technology has become so amazing in it's accomplishments. But there are consequences too. I hope bigger minds than my own can come up with solutions Vane. :)
Dave Esposito
Robots are here to stay
Love it or hate it
It is a waste of time to fight against this artificial inteligence revolution ...
Re-assess your assumption that the current labor force's primary income should forever be from waged labor. Once you open up to other possibilities, it becomes easy to realize that automation isn't 'destroying the world's labor force'.
"do you want most of the world's population to be in absolute poverty forever". That's faulty reasoning. Who owns the robots owns the revenue. Since a large number of these robots are / will belong to large corporations it is doubtful the present distribution of wealth will change. And if the present is any indicator of the future, corporations will keep on pushing for a transfer of the tax burden from corporation to the citizens (it's already happening, big time).
Or freeing mankind from work
robotics prove Intelligent Design.
Except we have proof of robots being intelligently designed.
And since cells, plants and animals etc. are much more complex, more intelligence can be deduced to produce a cell, plant and or animal.
An example of X being a route to Y does not prove X's exclusivity as a route to Y.
All robots prove is that intelligent design is possible.
If you and I are having discussion about whether a piece of chicken in front of us was deep fried or put in an oven and then we see someone put a cake in an oven is not proof that the chicken was cooked in an oven. There is no logical connection.
True but some routes make more sense than others. And some routes might be better to explain the way.
If they can't come up with a much much better rechargeable battery, no matter how capable robots are, will not be that practical.
because they last for maybe 6 hours only? And then have to charge? How often do you eat per day? (I actually have no idea how long they last but I think this is a realistic time for phones, I think pixel2 was advertised with 7 hours and 15 min recharge. Given that robots would also have bigger batteries it is probably roughly similar)
And in a lot of situations you could just keep them plugged in.
Run for your lives, the widgets are coming !
Every body the widgets are a happening.
The Widgets are a self replicating Qaunta design by self design without the burdening of a earth bound animal spiece eg think mode.
Imagine that ! Beyond our animal imprinted violence driven nature,
What ?!
We be gods than , a creator race after all, and go forth into void !
+Dale --- shall I mark on my calendar the number of days to the end? Will that number be greater than the number of prophets predicting the end?
+CandidDate
it would shake out as a symbiotic relationship , with the widget world being fully a part of our cyclic lives.
This is not a end world scenario.
The Widget age is an eon effect principle thing.
Not one good plot line story gets into mainstream media.
Why ?!
Because , the Animal us, is refusing to see
The Good, only bad, over and over , again and again.
And we're using the first widgets to com now today !
let's take away these widgets now ! go back to long wave and point to point com.
Oh! so, we're already there !
wake the truck up !
+Dale --- I hope you're right, because humankind has quite a history of being real bitches to one another. As long as democracy is involved, and many people have access to the many technologies, we should be ok.
+CandidDate
my hats off to you for noticing !
A accident investigator attitude throughout my lifespan so far has proven to be helpful in the great debate about how we got here what are we doing here where are we going and why.
+Dale Smith
The Qaunta matrix is not observable in real space/time.
The real new Frontier is the very smallest of known space-time.
That is the future, opening doors in the zero point reference of a nano branes field of described 3D space/time.
But, some desire that sight, and keep on seeking, seeing with a discipline of a gamer of sims, go forth with reason to under+stand that a fornicate is a below the ground arch !
We're communicating with a spun doctored slang language, to boot !
And the children of the whole wide world are watching.
The subject matter is fascinating. The speaker is obviously highly educated and intelligent. But I find her persistent grammatically incorrect use of "you and I" instead of "you and me" downright frustrating to listen to.
Sorry but a remotely piloted drone is not a robot. If it can't function autonomously, then it's not a robot.