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THE BEST WAY TO GET RID OF SURFACE FILM IN YOUR AQUARIUM? AQUARIO NEO FLOW PREMIUM
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 18. 08. 2024
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I like it and think it would go great in my new 29 gallons, but I am so new to the hobby I don't know what I need with it, like is it a filter or some adapter?
I prefer sucking surface scum and plant trimmings into my pre-filter.
I wish I could buy one in the USA, where can I buy one?
I like it.. the skimmer head is much smaller than the conventional glass skimmer.. I have also seen lily heads that can be attached to reduce the flow a little bit and it will look cleaner perhaps.. but yes that reliver is a bit bulky
Finally someone who shows the Neo Flow Premium working. Mine is on the way. I just grabbed one from Green Aqua, very quickly. Next day, was already out of stock. Merci pour la vidéo. Cheers pal!
Nice one! I think you got lucky đ
I like Neo products they are good quality for a reasonable price. Ever notice how many fish people are also cat people? đđ
Same here :D
Yeah I wonder why that is though... I guess fish people just love animals!
Dogs rule!
@@MJAquascaping that's it!
Or horse people I have noticed ahaha
Thanks a million for this video. I for the life of me couldn't figure out why the surface skimmer was sucking so much water but as your video pointed out all it took was a simple twist of that little tube that goes up to the skimmer and now it's at the purfect skimming setting! Thank you thank you
I have always used an air pump to clear surface scum in fish based aquariums (and been 100% pro it)
In setting up my first aquascape, I brought a metal Lilly pipe with a skimmer - it works so well, itâs a wonder they are not more widely used
Cool product Mark! Looks nice for nano tanks! Looking forward to an update on âThe Big Shallowâ đ
Also coming this week đ
Looks so classy and elegant. Love it! Want it!
Well look whom I stumble upon! Hey Catalina! đ€đ
@@MrDoldora Heeiii!đ You too?! Watching session.
smashing the LIKE đ BUTTON for the epic transition!!!! đ„
I'm going to need some lessons from Logan đ
I've used a 'poppy' lily pipe (glass) and it makes enough agitation along the surface to prevent bio film and does not requiring adjusting/fine tuning. This is on a 9 gallon tank. I think there may be some trade off on circulation deeper within the tank but my little nano fish are happy as is :)
Wow .what a review video. You always show us real factors. Aquario neo are getting so much trust from nature lovers..amazing work legend. Goldy singh â€ïžđ
Thank you so much đ
Great review! I hope they will make a lily pipe extension as well. That would make it perfect.
I hope so too!
Skimmers are meant to be on the inlet. I'm not sure when or why people started putting them on outflows. Putting it on the outflow just moves the film around, pushing it to the edges so it sticks to the glass and causes a buildup.
I have been watching some of your older content as I am a fairly new subscriber and I saw this and purchaed the Neoflow Premium. So far I love it. The reliever works great and the clear tubing is almost invisible and sturdy. Good choice. thanks.
Paul T.
Seems like it works well. Also love the cat in video.
Hey buddy great review and I thought the out takes were hilarious. I really enjoy your filming style and videos so please keep it up. All the best from Berlin! Also I really like the product and would like to pick one up from Green Aqua!
Happy to hear you are enjoying the videos!
i subbed for the cat!
I think there's a huge lack of options for surface skimming in nano tanks particularly. I got an Oase skimmer 350 and I like it a lot but it's way too powerful and turns my tank into a sandstorm. Even at only 80gph flow.
So I've thought about creating my own skimmer but honestly this is a very nice and elegant solution. It uses the existing equipment to accomplish the task of keeping the surface clear! I also like that this is more compact and less visually obtrusive than most intake-side surface skimmers which look kind of silly and also fragile. So IMO this is a great idea and I just might get one. Especially if they can get it optimized for nano tanks (for the height).
Great video, love your cat helping!
The only thing I donât like about this is that itâs shooting all the surface film (dust, oils, detritus, dead plant leaves, etc) back into your tank. An intake skimmer will filter it all through your canister. The only reason this would be better than an intake skimmer is if you have shrimp or maybe even small fish that can get sucked into the filter. But even then thereâs better options. I have a separate skimmer on a timer. 15 minutes on, 30 off, repeat. All day. That way if my shrimp do get sucked in, they can get back out. The film is all absorbed into a fine sponge that I just rinse out once a week.
You can also just increase surface agitation to keep the surface clear.z
Surface agitation wouldnât be ideal for a Betta tank would it?
It looks like a great product and Iâm looking forward to using it in the future đż
Thank you very much for the video.
I think it's a good product.
Love your Iwagumi aquarium â€â€
Thank you very much!
Very cool
Product. Love the versatility it gives.
Very good product!!! Update us with a month review please...
Will do!
Maybe this type of skimmer will prevent that the little shrimps dying... this is my challenge to using skimmer in my aqua.
I've used this skimmer now for many months and it sometimes works well for a week and then needs 'adjusting' but other times I spend way too long fussing with it to make it work and not sink :( It's worked the best with the diffuser but I've decided for my 9 gallon tank it's just too much of an eyesore. So I am back to fussing with it .... and hoping I will find the sweet spot.
This was my expierience also. I just ended up giving up. I noticed as my filter got clogged more and more, the change in outflow would make me adjust the skimmer constantly. It was almost every other day I was trying to fine tune it.
Looks nice MJ, however I hope Aquario will make 20mm version of this and a lily pipe part. 20mm is so difficult to get lily pipes and other stuff. Actually that's a bit strange since it is a standard size for filtertubing.
Best regards, Nick
Yeah there's barely anything available in 20mm.. lets hope they do..
The standards I see most common: 9/12 12/16 16/22 22/26
20mm is really out-dated, you should consider to look for one of those normal standard.
@@KenLe1998 well than you tell me where to find 22 mm quality lily pipes. And it's 19/25 mm, not 22/26.
I finally found some, but it's been difficult I tell you.
@@nickh9294 at that size it usually is custom made. And you can use hose reduction to go from 22/25 to 16/22. Easyđ
@@KenLe1998 everything you tell me is old news dude. Ive been in the hobby for 30 years, I know everything about it... Stepping down in size will cost you flow, why do you think it has a bigger diameter? In fact I split my filter tube from 1x26mm to 2x19 to have a more standard size.
I just wanted to say that there are quite a lot of people with bigger tanks and bigger diameter hose where there is so little available. And I already told you that I found glassware but has been difficult
Hi, thanks for the video. What is the difference between version 1 and version 2 ? Thanks mate
I've been using the original one for a while now myself. Over time the clarity of the pipes has faded and become more milky. Have you had a similar issue, and if so, do you know of a solution to prevent it? Thanks for your videos!
Bit strange but I definitely have to try them because my tanks are always full of hardscape and Iâm struggling to find places for lily pipes! Thanks for the video man!
Fun video, glad you share your mistakes. Still not sure the skimmer on the outlet pipe is the best choice.
I prefer the acrylic tubes, because you don't have to be so gentle with them. They still hide very well and are just as easy to clean. Did anyone catch that a small fry was inside his old intake tube? LOL
Can you tell me more about the process/working principles of this neo skimmer? I am a bit confused on how the neo gathers surface scums. Plus normal skimmers are placed beside or on the opposite side of the escapist flow, I d be very thankful if you can help me answering this.
Btw cool video đ
The idea with this skimmer is that it removes the oily surface layer from the water. Yes it get's blown into the aquarium instead of the filter, but I haven't found any issues with that. Of course this skimmer does not remove any large floating particles like plant trimmings. If that's what you are looking for I would recommend a eheim skim 350
That surface film is a pain. Good to hear that skimmer.
Anyway, did you inject Co2 to those tanks? If you did, how?
The small tank I used in this video has a citric acid and baking soda CO2 system! There's a video on that on my channel as well.
I would love to see a dye test on that attachment so I can see the actual flow.
Hmmmm wonder why they chose you đ€ maybe cause you have one of the best CZcams scaping channels and 66k followers on Instagram! Youâre to humble man! Youâre videoes just keep getting better! This product looks amazing and I want it for my uns 60u! If I ever get a chance to scape it đ could work great with the oase 250 thermo I want also! Perfect review Mark! Thanks!
Shouldnât the skimmer be on the inlet? So it goes into the filter. For both tank it was installed on the outlet. Really new to this hobby!
Traditional skimmers have it on the inlet yes. This one is supposed to be on the outlet
Hey Mark, great edit as always. I don't really get the benefit of having the skimmer on the outflow rather than inflow tho. Aren't you just chucking floating debris around the tank?
Basically yeah, if you have a lot of floating debris, you will still need a regular skimmer. I think the idea behind this one is just to get rid of the oily surface film.
@@MJAquascaping aah fair enough, I guess that makes sense! I mostly use sponge filters so not really an issue, but I still enjoyed your video as always! đ
I was wondering the same thing myself, but MJ replied with my thoughts.
I will add though, it would also make it fish and shrimp safe, as they wouldn't get sucked in to the filter. I keep finding dozens of shrimp in mine. It must be so dark for them! :O
The only way a skimmer will work is on the intake.
Thanks, MJ.
awesome video, i got mine like 3days ago, and that skimmer made surface look clean and neat after around 30min or so. i have an juwel 180L tank, and boy Juwel aquarium is not compromising with any custom things besides juwel items, rofl,. anyway i got everything setup and is running,
Problem 1 is that skimmer is sucking to much air from time to time and it get a bit noisy, and because it can't get more down into the tank i adjusted it so it is more on the side and it works perfectly,
but an idea is to take the "inflow" pip and cut it to the length i need so i can have straight instead of have it on the side more or less and then come up with a soluton for the "intake" so that one is as low down into the aquarium as possible haha Lucky for, or unlucky it all deppends on how look at it but i by accident bought 2 of them,. so i have a copy so i can with easy open that package up and use that pipe instead, but idk, i like how it looks alright, and also it's working quite good.
problem 2 is the plastic locker is not so suitible for my juwel tank i broke it, i could not have it stuck enough so that is one thing to bare with you when you turning the screws harder to lock everyting up,
once again,. i have a copy and perhaps some superglue could fix the broken piece or just super glue it directly rofl,. but then again its stuck there ;),.
problem 3 - the round flow reducer,. well this was a good idea but it makes the skimmer sucks more air and then i have the problem 1 all over again, so here is where i am now, i think i have to much flow in my aquarium so this is running perfect if i remove the skimmer
I think if i can lower the outflow pipe a bit and get it more straight up (rather than have it on the side) i can get everything going,.
It was a bit expensive but it was totaly worth it and i like how it looks so clean in the aquarium :)
Great and as i already said, awesome video and a great review!
Can you video about snail? How do you deal with keeping snail and clean eggs
Hello. A very nice and useful video. How is the skimmer when it comes to its volume? I have an aquarium in my bedroom room and I don't like noise. Is this skimmer quiet?
a like for that Transition đ
Hey Bro,
do u think that the material can turn yellowish over time?
would be interesting if you show the products again after a period of time.
And as always, great video!
If that would happen I will definitely let everyone know. I already have the basic version running for a month or so, and it still looks exactly the same, so lets hope it stays that way.
From what Aquario says on their website or Facebook page, the material isnât normal plastic and wonât turn yellow or turn opaque when dipping in bleach for washing.
Is it really a skimmer if it is not removing the scum? With this product you are effectively adding the surface scum into the main body of water in the tank. An aesthetic solution, for sure, but is it increasing the undesirable organics in the tank? Great cat.
Indeed it does not remove the surface scum, it just blows it into the tank. Eventually it finds it's way to the filter inlet.
I really hope they will make suction for these, cuz screwing every maintenance will be pain in the *** đ and suction make it more spotless as well
Agree!
goeie video, đ, ik wil m hebben đđđ
I just bought this product, and the skimmer is spouting water out of the top instead of sucking water in. Any idea what I may have done wrong in the set-up? Thanks a lot!
Try twisting that small tube on top of the outflow, with that you can adjust how much it skims the surface
Where does the "oil" colected by the skimmer goes? It collects the oil and sends it into the water again? Whats the purpose?
I always thought skimmers went on the intake not the outlet. EDIT: Never mind, I just read through the comments đ Holy Cow! đł Expensive! I can get ADA glass here in Japan for half the price of this!
Hi Mj, i bought the same Neoflow premium at my local store here in Bahrain. (better than glass type coz im too clumsy :)) anyway, not always that im using the outflow restrictor for an adequate aeration to move that biofilm on my 80x40x40 planted tank.
Super đrewelacja
why you attache the surface skimmer on the outflow? i think that the skimmer should be attached to the inlet pipe... ?
I'd rather go with the glass option on an intake pipe and actually take the crap out of the tank rather than just pushing it around and hoping that the standard intake picks it up at some point. Another good video though :)
minute 1, u made me laugh :))) Keep it up, i like this style.
Glad you enjoyed!
@@MJAquascaping educational too. It's the first time i see the venturi effect being used for a skimmer. Very clever.
Instead of this bulky contraption one could easily use an inline tap to reduce the flow. Looks much better that way. I still wonder how you attached the skimmer on the internal filter. They usually don't have a round hole as an intake right? Or did you put the skimmer on the outlet?!
I always wonder if using those taps will cause any damage to the filter. And yeah I put the skimmer on the outlet of the internal filter as well đ
@@MJAquascaping I donât think it will cause any damage if you use like a simple ball valve. With the magnetic prop the pumps on canisters use the pump wonât be working any harder even though there is more resistance to the flow. Lots of canisters include a flow adjustment valve built into the head that works the same way. Like on my fluval 207 I have had the flow turned down for over a year it has been running strong.
Please ... I have CO2 for the first time. Tank 30l. Number of bubbles 40 / min since last night. Dropchecker deep green. Rather heavier than lighter green. KH5. PH 7.5. Still very much. đ And I'm running it now, I only shine 6 hours a day. CO2 runs non stop.
CO2 consumption seems very high to me. I use a neo flow premium with a skimmer and a neo mixer on the spout. Is this the problem? Would it be better to have a diffuser separately? Or remove the skimmer?
It might not be super-efficient, but lily pipes are big, and, as nice as they are, I'm growing to hate the bulky Eheim skimmers.
How does it work on surface oil ? Oil will float back onto the surface right ?
But it does not have air agitation just like hob? Im planning to buy this kind of filters but having second thoughts
neither the inlet of the filter or the skimmer is suitable for a shrimp tank
I have a NEO FLOW WITH SKIMMER GOT IT SEPERATELY AND RELIEVER... WHICH IS MORE IDEA BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM OR BOTH INSTALLED IN THIS SYSTEM .. HOPE YOU CAN POST YOU COMMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
Hey thanks for a great video! I've been scared away from glass (too fragile) and metal (rust, too strong flow) so these look perfect. Does the reliever slow down the flow enough for a betta? Also, does the inlet need a guard for shrimps and baby fish?
Yep the reliever is perfect for a betta tank. If you are planning on keeping baby fish I would recommend a guard yeah
@@MJAquascaping thanks for the tip about this product - I just bought it (by clicking on your greenaqua link ;))
I love the look of these pipes and how adjustable they are to your own tanks. But the one thing I wish they would do is make a typical lilly style outflow, instead of the straight pipe, because my big filter is going to create a ton of flow which I geuss isn't the worst thing, and I really don't like the "reliever".
They have recently released a âlily pipeâ attachment đ
@@MJAquascaping yiisss now so long as it's available in the u.s. I have 0 reservations about ordering these now!!!
@@MJAquascaping unfortunately I am not seeing it listed anywhere yet.
â@wolfinthesno buce plants has them in stock.
Liked the video because of the transition effect đ
DonÂŽt you use a sponge on the in flow, so to avoid your shrimps are sucked in?
Perfect review, + outakes!! đđ
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What are your thoughts on snails in an open-top?
How is the skimmer attachment working in the internal filter on the last section if the video?? Is it glued on neat the filter water intake? This is so brilliant I want to try but having a hard time understanding how it's done
the skimmer is at the outlet part which means the oily things is not sucking back to the filter ?
Yep the skimmer is on the outlet, so the oil film is pushed in the aquarium, and will eventually get back to the filter inlet.
@@MJAquascaping but if there is bigger dirt like leaves on the surface it could eventually not that efficient right ?
@@weixianlim7669 no for plant trimmings and bigger particles you would still need a regular skimmer.
@@MJAquascaping alright thx for the info !!
so the surface scum are being pushed to the water and not to the filter?
So the skimmer dont have a filter ?
Can this be used in salt water?
Question regarding output flow. I have a 65 gallon with the appropriate canister filter for it. But Iâm using the Lilly pipes I used in my old 17 gallon with minor treats to get it to fit on the new filter. Does it matter? Should I get the right size for it? Not sure if this is why I have surface film on water.
It shouldn't matter really
What filter do you use for this?
Oh man, You should see my cat. Lol I love feeding her.
Which internal filter are you using in the smaller tank?
Hey MJ - do you find yourself constantly having to adjust the skimmer due to the water level decreasing from evaporation? Iâve had it set to the perfect skimming strength but then after a couple of hours itâs either too strong or not strong enough due to the water level changing.. doesnt sound like a great way to skim the surface if I have to change it every couple of hrs âŠ
Yeah same here... constantly adjusting it...
@@MJAquascaping I guess that's a big downside for many people. I'm sure you would have told us in the video if this wasn't sponsored :(
Hello Mj Aquascaping , i have a question to ask . Should i use lily pipe with surface skimmer or external surface skimmer ? Im so confused . One of my seller says if i use lily pipe it would clog my canister filter and will fill up with air . Please help me . Thankyou !
You can use both mate! Just try both and see which one works best for you
I love the information but your cat stole the show today! đ
Always!
Gebruik je co2 toevoeging in deze tank? Ziet er heel goed uit hoor! đ
Yes ook CO2!
Surface skimmer or inlet pipe which is best..wt u prefer
inlet pipe!
im planning to buy this one but i have the same issue as yours, the pipe is too long for my tank as well. I donât really have tools like pipe cutter, how do you cut them?
It was very easy to cut with a simple bread or steak knife đŹ
After a while using it, does it work fine? I have been 2 days and I can not get the skimmer to work well...
Yeah I'm struggling with the skimmer as well. Especially the 12/16 is very hard to get right. The 16/22 works better for me
@@MJAquascaping honestly after using it for several days i think its a hoax and at least the 12/16 size doesn't really work as a skimmer. Drops too many air bubbles into the water, shakes the surface a lot and makes noise. Greetings.
@@cesarbermejo9611 Which filter are you using?
@@MJAquascaping JBL e902
It ls not working.
Hey MJ. Did you have not the problem with the skimmer that it sucks in Oto's? It killed for me 3 already... đĄ
Iâve lost 1 pygmy Cory because of the skimmer. But 3 Otoâs thatâs crazy⊠sorry to hear that man..
yeah, in 6 weeks... I have to figure out something what to do with it :/
just remember, this transparent look is just temporary. it will change to whitish in no time.
Hello can it fit on a 9/12 hose?? Thanks and were can i get separated the neo skimmer thanks.đ
Sorry, no I don't think so. I think you can't buy it anywhere just yet. But it should be for sale at the end of June
@@MJAquascaping keep up the good work your videos for algae and other stuff were pretty helpful to me.
hello MJ i have a question for you about these lily pipes i was looking at getting the new Aquario Premium Neo Flow Ver.2 for my biomaster 250 thermo i am using the pipes that come with it at present what size do i need to get so i can just swap out the inlet and outlet and still use the flexi tubing the bio master came with ? it comes in a med and large 13mm and 17mm hope you can help as i am a little confused in which one i need thanksđ
If I'm not mistaken the biomaster 250 comes with 16/22mm tubing which will fit on the large size neo flow
@@MJAquascaping thanks for the help mateđđ»-now i just have to wait for stock coming in !! everywhere in the UK sold out!
@@MJAquascaping thank you !
The name of ur lamp, pls
Uniq nano from aquagrowled
Is there a possibility that the shrimp will suck in from the skimmer?
Small chance, but because the skimmer is attached on the outflow, they will just be pushed straight back into the aquarium.
shrimp moving around a lot, you gonna get shrimplets soon
I am a mature guy buy you should probably pause in between saying surface and scum.
A pipe cutter would be better?
Ha ha !!!!! Very Very nazzzze !!!!!
Overpriced đ.