Why isn't the Dutch Flag Orange?
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- William of Orange. Orange tulip fields. Footballers playing in orange. No colour is more associated with the Netherlands, so it might come as a surprise that it does not appear on its flag. But once upon a time it did, and it was the standard that the top stripe of the horizontal tricolour was an orange rather than a red. What caused this to change?
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0:20 “that flag clearly has an orange stripe”
*zooms in on black box*
I think your editor ragequit
You clearly know da wae of da editing, brudda.
I was thinking just that! XD
@@667halomaster I'll die eventually. Remind me to text you when I'm about to die.
Do you know da way to da toilet my brudda?
@@SirMrMilo Yes, I do. I'm using it right now, brudda.
I like the orange one
Tobias Berg Norge?
håper du hadde en god 17.mai
@cinema critic
det hadde jeg, håper du hadde det også :D
Liker profil bilde ditt :D
Dunder Edjifs ja
Same
Why Orange became Red on the modern flag?
Bigger question: Why the light-blue became dark-blue in the modern flag?
Luxemburg
@@dababy3374 same shit.
@@dababy3374 In Dutch Luxembourg called Luxemburg, but yeah same shit as the guy above me said.
The light color was never an official color, they used different colors of blue until 1937 where the colors were officially defined and blue became Cobaltblue! Please stop guessing if you are not sure and use facts!
no its always been kobalt-blue
Me, a colorblind person: Hmm... yes. These flags are made of flag.
Maybe thats the real reason flags change? Bunch of colourblind folks in charge of printing flags and nobody bothered to correct em...
Your profile pic is green
@@albertkristmas59 no no it's purple :)
Colourblind persons: orange into red?? Ooooohh, hahahaha, they made a mistake, purple into green 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
The original one looks way better, it's a real shame it got changed to a dime a dozen tricolour.
Redbad of Frisia we can still bring it back
Agreed. Time for a Dutch referendum to change it back to orange!
Orange and blue are natural allies in design. But red also works, although to a lesser extent.
Mar gjin pompeblêden :/
Part of the reason why the current Dutch flag looks like so many others is because the others took over parts of the Dutch flag design. And as stated in the video, the color orange is associated with the house of Orange. The house of Orange throughout history hasn't been a neutral or objective party. Not all of their actions are on the right side of history.
Can I just say how satisfying it is to hear someone speak both English and Dutch without sounding horrible in either hahaha, as an English-Dutch bilingual I am happy hahaha
Dutch sound cool and colourful when speakihg English. It's class.
Similar languages English and Dutch tbh
@@LB_die_Kaapie how are they similar?
@@gijsvanderlogt9652 they're intelligible
@@gijsvanderlogt9652 I've learned some Dutch, having learned German as a kid and clearly being a native English speaker (but I'm not English, I'm Welsh, just to confuse matters LOL). I've found Dutch easier than German for some reason. There are a lot of similarities in many Dutch words to both English and German - often they're sort of halfway between the two. Structurally as well as with the vocab, it's pretty close to English. Once you can read Dutch, guessing the meanings of new words isn't too hard. It's just that bit closer than German. (I know, I've been told not to compare Dutch and German. My Dutch aunty - who was one of my favourite ones - said it wouldn't go down well. She's one of the reasons that I decided to learn the language, though she passed some years ago.)
I currently live in E Anglia (not too far from Harwich as the crow (seagull?) flies), which is the bit of England which sticks out into the North Sea just north of London, so I'm actually closer to you than to my home country! Should I ever decide to get a new passport (though I'm tempted to do it asap just so that I can have a European Union design on it LOL), my ambition is to pop over the sea and visit the Netherlands (yes, I know the difference between Holland and the Netherlands ;-))
I still think I should learn a bit more of the language before I come over though. I don't want to be one of _those_ tourists who depend on the locals to speak English. Though most Dutch people I've met speak it better than many Brits I know. Sigh...
HTH :-)
The Dutch: “Well, i’m glad that’s all straightened out”
Luxembourg enters the chat
As a Dutch person you’re realy good in pronouncing Dutch’s words
yes thank you, I was looking for a comment that said this. bc i noticed that too!! (i also speak Dutch)
its literally perfect
So Funny, and yes all we (Dutch) can hear is all the mistakes, In Dutch but surely this isn’t easy when trying to talk and sound as English as possible as you can. Anyone tried before? And listened to your own voice? I know it ffing hard.
Whatever this guy is talking about who really cares what flag what color.
This guy defo has problems pronouncing his Dutch words.
@@twdegr this dude I'm pretty sure *is* Dutch. Ik kan een licht Nederlands accent in zn Engels horen. Daarnaast deelt hij veel Nederlandse dingen op zn facebookpagina.
Isn't he Dutch?
got my dutch national anthem in the first 15 seconds, video was liked.
Erg controversieel
i laughed much too hard because of the disc claymore
Video about the netherlands: exists
the dutch:
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
>comment about dutch people: exists
the dutch:
*Z E G M A K K E R*
Tuurlijk
Hello daar. Hoe gaan dit?
Meer dan logisch
*GEKOLONISEERD*
0:07 is an absolute G E K O L O N I S E E R D moment
Actually, the Dutch flag of today is not the same as the Statenvlag. The difference is that the flag of today has a more darker blue. This came around the Napoleonic times. The blue became darker for the navy of the Batavian Republic. But in the Batavian flag there was also a small painting in the corner. When The Netherlands became the Kingdom of Holland, under rule of king Louis Bonaparte (brother of Napoleon Bonaparte), the flag became the same as the flag of today. Despite that the Orange family came back as a royal family, they kept the flag with darker blue.
Nice. Not sure but i think he actually mentioned this in his other video (why did the dutch flag change or sth).
Did you really take the tree from the Lebanese flag and put it on the Dutch flag?
@@barnosho1611 I mixed the 2 flags because I am half Lebanese and half Dutch.
The one at 14 minutes mark looks indeed more similar to the one Luxemburg uses today rather than the current Dutch flag.
The red and specifically blue had multiple variation dating before 1500s.
I suppose that the exact color was based on what they had in that time period as there weren't as many countries having the pretty much the same flag with slightly altered colors.
That is not at all how I imagined Hilbert to look like.
right damn brits never match their voice have you ever seen womble? Now thats a shocker
Yeah sorry to break it to you but I’m not actually a floating Anglo-Saxon helmet with shades on... :/
@@historywithhilbert146 You look like a young Colin Farrell.
@@historywithhilbert146. You should have a look at which oil paints were invented when. If I remember correctly, Vermilion was the only red available? And I'm not even sure if the concept of true orange existed at the time, it may have been seen as a red tint...
Again, been years since I read about oil paints.
Frosty Alaska Brit? Isn’t he Dutch?
As a Dutch woman who absolutely had no idea what happened to that iconic orange flag, I wanna say thank you for filling me in! Great video!
The new Dutch flag looks horrible and it's hard to spot. The old bright orange and blue stood out and looked very striking and attractive and VERY unique. The new one is the most boring flag on the planet -- it doesn't stand out, but disappears in the background, just like "new" Dutch culture.
The city flag of New York recalls the founding of Nieuw Amsterdam by the Dutch West Indies Company in 1626.
Orange flag is better.
Also South Africa had a version of that baller flag at one point; too bad they got rid of it because of the generic "it's racist!" argument. Just keep the flag, and show that countries can move on from racism. Which sounds better?:
"We had apartheid, but we got rid of it and changed our flag because we want to erase our past."
or
"Sure, we had apartheid, but we changed. Now, by the strong will of the South African people, our flag represents freedom."
@@scottkrafft6830 ge mer mat och bättre flaga
@@scottkrafft6830 Apartheid South Africa's flag was made to represent the Afrikaners and Anglos, the Bantus were not represented in the design. After the collapse of apartheid, South Africa's current flag was designed to represent all of the country's ethnic groups.
Besides, I'm glad they changed the flag; the ANC isn't worthy of flying the glorious Oranje, Blanje, Blou.
@@ghostofthelostcause2744 nou dat jy dit se is ek entlik bly dat ons nie meer daai vlag het nie
The US and India should change back too.
*Hilbert being proud of being a Dutchman for 15 minutes straight.*
He was born in Britain right? Only 1 of his parents is Dutch if I am correct
*inhales*
G E K O L O N I S E E R D
There it is!
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I N G E P O L D E R D
Underrated comment
Heh heh!
Here in Cape Town, South Africa, at a museum was a sign saying that it changed from orange to red because of the orange dye that was used. It would eventually become red. So, was decided to make it red.
Am I colour blind or is 7:56 clearly an orange colour while Hilbert says it's red?
I agree with you
I think I might be the colourblind one...
Princenvlag clearly to me
It might be red...I mean I think the cross flag is Saint George's Cross, which is supposed to be red, but appears orange. And since the dutch flag also appears orange, maybe it means that both are in fact red, but are discolored or something like that...maybe.
it's the upvote colour
In South Africa we also used to say Oranje Blanje Blou for our previous flag which actually did contain the orange :)
Dit is n baaie mooi vlag.
Jammerte het ons plaas verloor te danke aan die... Niks gese nie, mens kan mos oor niks praat in die moderne tye nie. XD
I liked the old SA flag. One could see the history of the country in the different flags in the white stripe. UK, Transvaal, Orange Free State.
Ahh you also watch the Triggerd Afrikaans boi or Wilhelm petzer
@@VayN95 I understand it...and I am South German
we've still got an orange ''wimpel'' we raise with the flag at the king/queens birthday its like a little orange pennon
I really have respect for him being able to comfortably switch between English and Dutch, Without the Dutch sounding horrible
Irish orange (associated with Irish Protestants e.g. Orange Order, Irish flag) comes from William of Orange
100% richt oranje marsen in IRELANND van willimpie protestantse. Ik.woon op de grens van dat waar Hugo de Groot op de boekenkist aan land gekomen is ,ik ben een Brabander
A different William of Orange though, that was William the third.
@@pepijnwarmerdam8784 Of Orange.
@@storrho Yes, but not the one that was mentioned in the video.
Do you believe that the same artist using a different colour for the flag in different paintings may be due to who commissioned the painting, rather than what flag was actually on the ship?
Interesting theory.
Yes. You are right.
Your Dutch, German, French and English pronunciation is excellent. Such a pleasure to hear.
One of the possible reasons I read online about the flag switching was that orange tends to fade when sailing, so it is badly recognizable. And lastly because back then it was supposedly very expensive to mix.
as a colorblind person, some of the paintings look like they all have a orange or yellowish color over the white and blue except for the last one which has red over white and blue
xXxSkyViperxXx I saw them all as orange too but the last one 😂
@@chosu1234 me too
Because they are
Can you talk about regional pan colors, like the slavic pan color (red, white, blue), Africa pan color (green, red, yellow/black) and the Arab pan color?
Arab pan colors are green and white right?
@marios gianopoulos and red.
Slavic is just red and white. Blue is really just there cos russia.
also turkic with turqiuse, although panturkism is a very impossible idea
And the Russian flag is on its part based on the Dutch flag.
Anyone who's ever watched a major soccer (football) tournament knows that the Dutch LOVE their orange! And I think it's fantastic.
Dutchie here! We still use the orange sometimes on our flag. On special days ( like kingsday) we use a WIMpel ( thin piece of flag ) that we ad to our flag. The name comes from willem of orange. The wim in wimpel is short for willem. It’s a thing we dutchies do to honour our king/queen
It seems likely there was some overlap. Flags weren't exactly cheap back then, so people might have just used whichever they had...
It has been said elsewhere, bu I'll do it too: Excellent English, and effortless switching from English to Dutch pronunciation at the drop of a hat.
And, being Dutch (and a volunteer English teacher) the subject caught my attention. Interesting to the end (where you beheaded the last consonant)
Great explanation, looking forward to the second part as the "Princevlag" is gaining popularity in certain circles. Oh, while you're at it, don't forget to weave in the origin of the orange "wimpel" which seems to be a typical Dutch phenomenon ;-)
Keep it up!
I think another factor in flag colors over the course of history is how easy is it to make a color, and how well does it stand up to weathering. Orange is not the easiest dye to make, and it fades quickly when weathered. So those orange-white-blue flags in the ship paintings could be older weathered flags that used to be red-white-blue. The least effected colors by weathering are red and blue.
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@@darkpepijn see 2 betekenisen
Geweldige video Hilbert!
Always interesting to learn more about the country I was born in.
You are way more entertaining than any teacher ever was.
Orange & Dark Blue should've been the official flag. Most beautiful colors tbh.
You know, I've never thought about this. But when I saw the two side by side, they more both the Dutch flag to me, but the orange one was _more_ Dutch
Love the video. You can really see that Hilbert did his homework as always. Maybe some important info for the next video. The red, White and blue flag only became a official flag of the Kingdom of the Netherlands on the 19th of feb. 1937.
Keep up the good work .
BTW . Who would know Hilbert looks so cute !! 🤩 Haha
Your Dutch pronunciation is so endearing! Just discovered your channel and I absolutely love it!
What? He never said stroopwafel or hagelslag!
@@iamTheSnark that's not the kind of Dutch that I find "endearing"...
It was really interesting. What is more interesting is that the Dutch arrived in 1652 in South Africa. The first Republic flag of South Africa was based on the Prinse vlag and we even had a province called the Orange Freestate. Before South Africa became a union this province was actually a Republic on it's own.
Ik hou van Nederland!
Ik hoor het graag
Ik pak ff mijn ovenwanten
@@historywithhilbert146 Ja, daar begrijp ik nu weer helemaal niks van... maar als je de stroopwafels uit de oven haal, lust ik er ook wel ééntje!
which is probably incorrect, cause I think the two halves of a stroopwafel are baked in a waffle pan, not in an oven.
@@historywithhilbert146 he's speaking god's lenguage
Ik ook ;)
Dear Hilbert, watching this video full of historic ships and naval battles made me think of one of my favourite things to portray, the raid on the Medway. As a proud Dutchman this glorious victory is of course very pleasing to me. Now I was wondering how you feel about the raid on the Medway as you are sort of in between so to say. Kind regards, a fan from Staats Brabant.
In the Anglo-Dutch Sea Wars the Dutch Republic was objectively in the right so I see the Raid on the Medway as one of our proudest military accomplishments.
You sound like a native English speaker but your Dutch pronunciation is perfect. That combination is rare. It's confusing. I like it.
Great video, and greetings from New York (formerly New Amsterdam; a Dutch colony). We still retain the orange, white, and blue flag for our state... in fact our sports teams often use those colors on their uniforms (Mets, Giants, Islanders). Streets, rivers, boroughs, and neighborhoods still retain Dutch names (Brooklyn = Breuklen, Staten Island = Staaten Eylandt, Yonkers = Jonkheers, as well as Nassau County, Long Island). American culture owes so much to Dutch influence, and it’s unfortunate how few Americans realize it.
There is an Orange in New South Wales, 🇦🇺 known for its apples. Vaucluse, too. Better than Condom, also in France 🇫🇷
🧙♂️ 🌻 🐈 🎶 🇧🇦
Jouw gevoel voor humor ligt me wel ;)
This is quite fascinating. I've been to NL often and with my mother mostly living there I've been learning a lot about the country. Got to go to Leiden soon, maybe there are a few interesting places to visit, like a museum about the history
Geweldige video, echt genoten van de context.
"Why isn't the Dutch Flag Orange?" Let's find out!
Sounds like Varg Vikernes
@@florisbiezeman3800 Perhaps... :)
I love you man 😂
Oranje blanje.bleu,maar diewimpel, kijk naar die oranjemarsen, in Ierland,Willem van oranje wimpel rood wit blauw
@@florisbiezeman3800 couldt be
I always forget about how it is currently, and I still draw it using the original colors
Happy 408th birthday!!
Fam I love your drawings! thank u for the history lesson
The long flag beneath the tricolor is the ship's commissioning pennant. Very important. (Dutch Navy family)
Orange one for the win btw. Also great video keep up the good work!
I like your pronounciation of Dutch :)
Your video is very nicely done. I got here by watching Andre Riev one of his music videos, contained a lot of orange, so I had to check it out. I now know what’s going on I hope. Again, thank you for your interesting video.
Heel gaaf om te zien dat je onze taal ook representeert dat is redelijk uniek!
It’s truly a delight to hear some spoken Dutch in between your video. Your videos provide an awesome opportunity to learn some more about the Dutch history, if we were more resilient and stood a bit stronger against the British and other enemies of the golden age- gouden eeuw then our language may have been THE language instead of English
If dutch is your native language , then I salute your accent when speaking English. No dunglish. Its such a delight to listen to :D
Bruh jij bent Nederlands
@@ossie6977 je hoeft hem niet zomaar te roasten bro
Helemaal mee eens. Je merkt pas "hee, jij bent Nederlands" bij de eerste Nederlandse woorden.
@@iamTheSnark hij is engels lol
7:47 are you colourblind? that's obviously orange
Nah I reckon it's red
@@ryannicholls3662 kidding me, run it through a digital colour meter it's clearly orange
Red
You speak out the Dutch words and Dutch names really well, really like a Dutch guy would say it.
He’s Dutch lmao
@@boazblue2514 That explains a thing or two.
Props for your ability to switch from english to dutch to english. That super difficult to do and for me tends to trip me up in pronounciation (in dutch usually)
Cheers makker dit was goed spul
Bedankt makker
@@historywithhilbert146 veel liefde broer
zeg makker wat betekent cheers? Angelsaksisch gebrabbel?
@@rever-mi6qz ten behoeve van ons halfbloedje presentatortje natuurlijk
"Oranje Banje, Blou, die meisies hou van jou!" (Afrikaans children's rhyme)
Thank you for this. It has made me want to know more about the Dutch-English interplay between (roughly) 1630 and 1700 ie before, during and after the English Civil War.
Amazing you put Egmont as background music
I have one thing to say:
Scheldon Cooper fun with flags
Lekkere fijn uitgedoste barbaar referentie weer hoor. 👍🏻
Bedankt... landgenoten ;)
History With Hilbert ben jij ook NL?
ok ok wtf zeggen jullie ik word fuckng gek bro
From what I gather from my colleagues (history teachers) a big part of the choice for red was also price. Red ink/fabric was also a lot cheap to acquire/make and the colour lasted longer. Aside from the whole point you make.
Since many had to be made and we Dutchmen like to pay less if possible. It seems probable reason once a centralised government was formed.
love you randomly say dutch words with your dutch accent
7:43 thats not red, thats orange!
One of the hem looks a bit red-ish but the others are clearly orange.
Afrikaans rhyme: "Oranja Banja Blou, die meisies hou van jou"
John-John van Niekerk lol
Aren't you the lucky one? (Assuming my Dutch isn't quite as rusty as I think it is LOL)
Church herehervomd, 1648 ,here 200 meters oude haven plaggen for rdam Dordrecht rdam, al for Holland.
@@justindanen1185 dat klinkt oud Nederlandse versie van de taal
@@justindanen1185 geck,en blijf die gek
That's an amazing sponsor, wow
great to see the pronunciations nailed too, I know Leiden is actually Lee-den but that's all I know, next I must learn how to use GEKOLONISEERD
Your dutch pronunciation is pretty amazing!
Well it was definitely Orange because it ended up on my country's flag (Ireland) as well.
Vreeslik dankie vir al jou wonderlike video's. Ek geniet hulle vreeslik. Oranje Blanje Blou die meisies hou van jou!
Also you did pronaunce the Dutch words correctly Good job
Yeah, been to Aurenja, pootling back from Geneva by car with, strangely enough, a Northern Irish friend. Seen the famous Théâtre antique: quite impressive! AND I had only just seen, a few days prior, the Colloseum - from the outside.
Good cassoulet [and rosé wine], surprisingly like baked beans and sausages, a staple of British canned stodge - but up to the next level.
I had to look into the connection (with, ahem, the British Monarchy). I got there.
Last week I researched about this. Cool you made a video about it. The Dutch national socialist party (NSB) in the 1930s used the Prince's Flag. Therfore the Dutch queen issued a royal decree to the solely usage of Red - White - Blue.
The Prince’s Flag is as of today fairly controversial in the Netherlands because it is used by extreme ring-wing organisations like Stormfront, the Dutch People's Union (NVU) and Voorpost. Also the fairly right wing party: Party for Freedom (PVV) made use of the flag sparking protests by opponents who referred to the flag as an NSB (Dutch Nazi collaborator) flag.
Und
Eindelijk iemand die de waarheid durft te zeggen.
National Focus:
Oranje Boven!
70 days till completed.
Wat een leuke mini documentaire 😁
when wilem van oranje became city holder the color was oranje, but they changed it really fast back to red because the fabric was easier to get and less expensisve. and the red was more visible at sea.
Trying to sleep at 12
Watching videos about the Dutch flag at 2am... Damnit
7:59 looks orange to me.
Missing some more recent discussions around the two flags, late 30s it was debated in parliament where all parties had some level of support for the prinsenvlag. The Dutch Nazi's (NSB) unanimously supported it. And that triggered the Monarch of the house of Orange (Queen Wilhelmina) to finally settle it and sign the statenvlag into law, saying goodbye to the "family colour" in the flag.
But even today some Nazi's and right wing extremists still occassionaly use it at demonstrations or in their parliament-building offices.
Cheers for the video. Dutch history does seem to be very complicated - compared to, say, the UK!
A couple of points - in the oranje, blanje, bleu flag, the blue is often a darker colour and can help with identification. Secondly, there was a row in the Netherlands a few years ago when a Dutch MP ( a right-wing one, possibly from Wilders party ) displayed the orange flag in his office in Den Haag. So, it still has a meaning.
Also congratulations on your Dutch pronunciation. Maybe you are half-Dutch, or Dutch!
You're accent is great, you'll only here you're accent when your saying names and cities. Dit is gewoon interessant 😂
Echt geweldig hoe je 3x you're/your verwisselt en ook nog here ipv hear zegt, moest ik om lachen✌🏻
Your* accent (you're = you are) ...
@@einundsiebenziger5488 it's on purpose😂
I love the orange more. Im gonna hang that one out on Kings day:p
lol
the "Disk Claymore" was hilarious, did not come across that one before (yes, I am new to this channel)
Your dutch pronaunciation is very accurate! greetings from rotterdam, holland.
Kdenk dat em Nederlands is
I hoped you´d say: well.. The Dutchies like to refer their flag to the words "Blood, Sweat and tears". André Hazes made the anthemsong xD
Incoming ARMY fans…
Ironically New Amsterdam (now commonly known as New York) still kept the orange version, e.g. New York City Flag, Albany City Flag, The Bronx Flag etc.
That's not irony.
@@nathangamble125 indeed, it's not even much of the "coincidence" it gets mixed up with often either, it is mere history :)
Love the classical music in the videos
The Disclaimer - Disk Claymore joke made me laugh way more than it should've.
0:17 is this a painting of a flag from the free territory or is it blacked out
Fail
Wow Hilbert, if you’re ever in Miami, drinks are on me you handsome history nerd!!
Awesome man I'll let you know!
after recently watching your peaky binder video, I'm wondering if there were the same groups in Belgium and Holland? I would also like a video about the golden eeuw of Amsterdam. Overall i'm just interested in the history of Antwerp/Amsterdam. Lastly I would also like something about the Oranjeorde and Willem the 3rd.
the pronounciation is just amazing. love it 2 years later