THE REAL LIFE AHS MURDER HOUSE! True Crime & Makeup
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2020
- Hey guys! This case is a crazy one and as soon as I heard it I knew I had to make a video on it! So today's video is all about the Los Feliz Murder House! Which is a super famous murder house in LA and there's so much mystery surrounding this case which is what makes it so interesting! It was also one of the murder houses that the first season of American Horror Story 'MURDER HOUSE' was inspired by so this one's for all you AHS fans! Let me know your thoughts!
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suffering a narcissistic injury sounds like the smart ppl way of saying 'his feelings got hurt'
That basically sums it up. lol Some don't know how to deal with it, but a lot don't go on a murdering spree to make themselves feel better. Well, as far as I know. I'm not a Dr.
Yes I totally agree🤣
i just geeked at this so hard omfg
Pretty much.
🤣 Amen!
Can we appreciate Marshall for a moment - him being so brave in hope he could save the kids that’s really impressive
Agreed
I love how compassionate and empathetic she was to the poor neighbor that couldn't bring themselves to answer the door.
Marshall was incredibly brave to venture over to that house.
Truest relevant! If the kids doesn't surround themselves from dangerous places. Tho!
What was more scary to him, the killer welding his weapon or his wife, 😅 🙅♀️' you get there and help that family out!'
Dante’s Divine Comedy is actually quite a significant book to be reading just before carrying out his crimes. Just to clarify, the passage you quoted is the very first line. If this is what Harold had open just before falling asleep, I think it indicates that he absolutely identified with Dante’s journey of discovery. Dante cast himself as the main character and journeys through Hell in order to reach Purgatory, which inevitably leads him to Heaven. First he must acknowledge his sins and where they will lead him if he doesn’t repent-this is Hell (Inferno). Then he has to purge himself of those sins (Purgatorio). And then finally he is able to reach the realm of his lost love who has been guiding him on this path to redemption-that realm being Heaven (Paradiso). But Harold seemed to have gotten stuck in Inferno, where Dante is literally wallowing in his biggest sin, Pride, because Dante spends the entirety of Inferno punishing his real-life enemies by either placing the dead ones in Hell or assuring their spots there after their inevitable demise. Perhaps Harold saw this family annihilation as his way of wallowing in his sin before he would attempt to wipe it away in hopes of repentance, his suicide being the means by which he could repent. However, if he actually read the text, he’d know that what he went on to do would condemn him to Hell for eternity by the Divine Comedy’s standards. Perhaps he was hoping for a spot in Purgatory instead-I doubt it worked out for him. But he was probably as baffled by Dante as most people are lol. It takes a very specific kind of nerd (like myself) to dive into and attempt to understand a dense text like that haha. But if you’re ever interested in discussing it further, I’d be happy to answer questions! I wrote my thesis on Dante and can at least attempt to explain it.
Thank you for the condensed run down on The Devine Comedy. I was just about to write a comment to state that there are people that spend their entire lives and careers deciphering and studying this particular book but you covered that importance as well with stating you wrote your thesis on Dante ♥
@@The.EclecticAli you’re quite welcome! Like I said, I takes a very special kind of nerd to work your way through the Divine Comedy. 🤣 And it takes an even more specific nerd to spend their lives on it-but I can totally understand why you would! It’s a fascinating text if you have the patience for it. I do wonder if I overanalyzed the significance of the passage, based on other comments-he might have gotten one line in and decided he was not the nerd for the journey into Dante lol. But I just can’t help analyzing Dante when I have the chance.
Random side note: I love your username. 🤣
Thanks for the summary! I was curious but did not want to have to read it lol!
That long paragraph of your comments and actually understanding better than. Everything!
🎉🎉 This is a great piece
Narcissistic Injury is the technical term for "wounded ego". As Danielle said, something happens and it hurts their ego so much it drives them to act out.
That sounds like a big ole “get over it” to me lol
@@Tummyachesurviorlol it’s like a psychotic break, I suppose. Narcissists don’t exactly function normally
I totally watch Bailey Sarian, and that's how I found you. I am hooked on you as well. Thanks for researching these real life stories.. Because I would not have. Love watching you and Bailey...
ya this is Baileys whole thing i guess its becoming a trend, what a trendsetter!
Omg yes
I came here from Bailey aswell. I'm loving this new trend!!
Check out Brittany Vaughn. She does the same thing and love her. I started with Bailey then found Brittany now I'm here!
My goodness❤same here....its pretty cool to find other people doing murder mystery and makeup😇
He probably didn't count the 31 pills out. He probably just dumped them out in his hand.
Or straight down his throat? Also it's possible when the autopsy was done the pills weren't completely dissolved so thy were able to be counted.
That's what I was thinking.
They could have figured out how many pills were left in the bottle based on the dosage and the date of the prescription.
Thank you! 🤦🏼♀️
If it’s like a one-a-day prescription it could be 31 pills for a month
Dante's Devine Comedy is a big work to digest, but I recommend Overly Sarcastic Production's video on it. Red does a wonderful job summarizing the book with a great sense of humor and wonderful animation, as well as explaining a bit about the context the book was written in!
You should do an American horror story series. They base a lot of their series on true stories 🥰
You should TOTALLY do a story on the other Murder House; the house owned by Madam Delphine. They had that house on AHS too, with Kathy Bates playing her
Yesssss! I'd LOVE that! Great idea 😌
ohh in coven i love that season
I am from the New Orleans area and I would never even go by that house she was a horrible woman and did horrible things there js
yes omg
Some man bought it and turned into apartments Michael Whalen I think I love the people who take you on the tours of the haunted houses I personally will not go for many reasons mostly all the crime
The whole obsession with image thing blows my mind. Like Chris Watts. Sir, your image is much worse now.
Yep! Scott Peterson too!
It's almost as if they want to be remembered by any means necessary (i.e rather be infamous than forgotten).
Yea, but you gotta remember there are people that give them the fame they "need" even now. They get letters and gifts and it's crazy. They get what they want just not how they expected! What is the saying "be careful what you wish for" 😑
Have you seen the Lifetime movie about Chris Watts? I will put it this way, I can't watch it ever again (some movies just hit me that way. If it's based from Real Events, yet is SO Dark & twisted that it's literally sickening, it's a "1 & done" thing for me.
Famous murderers get an insane amount of donations from their fans
I'm just thinking about how Judy screamed, and her siblings woke up, AND the neighbors and yet were supposed to believe that Butch Defeo shot SIX people (some more than once) one at a time, with a rifle, and none of them woke up, and the neighbors didn't hear in Amityville!? I'm just never going to believe that is possible.
I believe him when he says the mob were involved.
Hey my grandparents owned a bar in amityville and ronnie defeo used to come in all the time and at one point he had worked for my grandfather in his concrete business but not for long and the messed up part to me was that they had MY playpen in the back of the bar when my mom had to bartend …. Messed up huh? Bar was named : the copper fox ..I think there was a south on the end in tiny writing because we owned 2 of them and the other one was in nassau county somewhere in really don’t remember what town… just your comment reminded me of that btw
I don't wear or care about makeup. Usually I get bored with a narrator of a true story. And yet..... I am hooked. I love the pace, the insight, your personality etc.... Fantastic job!! Big fan.
AHS shows all the families moving into that house going through financial strains just like the “initial” owners
“i didn’t know what the divine comedy is”
me: laughs in catholic education
Same but economic highschool. For some reason we talked a lot about dante
*me laughs in universal literature*. Romanian here, we study “Divina comedie de Dante Alighieri” in hischool!
*laughs in italian* we learn about each and every chapter of Dante's Divina Commedia all throughout school
Psycosis.. i would say.. 🤔
Me: Laughs in Italian
All stories from AHS are based on true stories. Love your channel
Damn
When did an apocalypse with a literal Antichrist, robots, witches with superpowers and time travel had happened?
Missed it, probably snoozed through the whole thing 😢
@@EvanWerewolf parts are.. not literally the whole season.
Another similarity to AHS is the Christmas tree you mentioned! Remember at the very end when they are ghosts aren’t they all decorating a huge Christmas tree?
I think he intentionally held onto the hammer so it was clear after he died that he was the one. I think he had a major psychotic break and was disconnected from what he was doing, like a zombie.
It sounds like he could’ve been dissociating or he was possessed 👀👻
Yeah, likely brought on by stress due to financial troubles, exacerbated by a money heavy holiday. He likely couldn't handle his public image falling apart, and couldn't handle the threat of his family telling the truth about him, so he tried to kill them (was successful with the wife) to silence them. When the daughter got away and the neighbor went over, it likely snapped him out of it enough that he didn't continue the killing, and instead chose the easy way out instead of answering for his crimes. He sounds like he may have been a narcissist, and couldn't handle his projected image of the successful rich doctor crumbling, and suffered narcissistic injury from it. They don't view others as ppl and everyone around them exists for them. So that's why it's not a difficult decision for them to become or try to become a family annihilator.
@@transmaniandevil junior youoiii oh yo I ii
Kinda wonder if he was sleepwalking
@@furygeist if they don’t view others as people why do they care what people think so much
This story is crazy and all but it blows my mind that you've never heard of Dantes inferno at the least. That's wild to me!
Right, we had to study it in college (I’m in the USA) and it was awful 🤣🤣
@@teddygrl06 I'm in the US too! I actually kind of looked it up and it seems it depends on where you live. If the book insults certain figures or alludes to them it isn't happening. I agree with you and find that book is like most in the time. Kind of dry reading because of the writing style but amazing stories. I love modern interpretations of old work. If you ever get a chance, dante's inferno puppets show is absolutely hilarious😂
@@peach5438 I understood it just fine, it’s just horrifically dull. I hated it
@@TaylorMitsuki I loved that movie too! I wish they had followed up with Purgatory and Heaven
As an Italian I just love Dante's Divina Commedia (Divine Comedy).
Yes, it can sound boring to some people, and yes, it's a very, very, very heavy reading BUT it's aldo one of the most beautyfull examples of italian literature.
And I have to say that I'm kinda of a bookworm and a book nerd AND that I have rear the whole poem...and just to clarify, it's not that hard to understand if you pay attention to what you read.
As far as the '31 pills', my thoughts are that he has a pretty large hand, randomly poured them into his hand or mouth (as many as would fit?) and took them and it wasn't until later, at autopsy, that it came to be known that it was 31 that he took since stomach contents need to be recorded in med records.
Trying to understand a psychopath's actions with logic is like trying to put a square shape into a circular hole. The man sounds like he was completely deranged, and it's doubtful that he was fully cognitive at the time. I once had a hit to the head so hard that the concussion made me see different colours in everything around me, and the faces of all the people present had completely changed (sports injury) I sat with a physio for several minutes to clear my head and slowly the colours and faces came back. Our brains are very strange machines.
Hello Danielle☺️ I am Italian and we study The Divine Comedy at school,it is a masterpiece of our literature,of our language. The quote that he was reading is the very beginning of the book,the very first phrase so maybe when he finished to read, he left the book open and it opened itself from the first page,as sometimes it happens..who knows...😘
We read the book too, but to read it one was usually an english major and at least a sophomore but usually a junior or even a senior university level. I had actually enjoyed it because it was so different to anything I had ever read before. It was definitely not something I could write or ever come close too, so yeah, it was pretty cool to study, it and I think it is one of our books we will never forget along with the Iliad by Homer. I loved the Iliad and one I had read several times from different professors along my journey at the state university.
It doesn’t surprise me at all that D’Ante is taught at a high school level in Italy, I would expect it really. Your country has such a rich and beautiful history with so much to be proud of. Heck, I just watched a documentary that showed how Versailles had been built. A curiosity I had for some time.
Our country is so young, and we don’t have all of the beautiful cathedrals and other historical markers that are hundreds and hundreds of years old. So it is definitely cool to real and learn about them when I can. Don’t get me wrong, I love the United States of America, and I am proud to be an American for so many good reasons. So I just add it all up to be a curiosity to learn about as many countries and cultures that I can. Italy is definitely one of the cool ones to learn about for sure. It’s right at the tippy top.
Be well
I read it few years ago.. At first I had hard time to understand so I had to google few words to understand their meaning. Yeah! But, my husband did looked surprised. Because I am mostly in to fairytale and happy stories.
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Good to have a change now & then!
I guess everybody in Europe learn about Dante in school ;) I'm from Poland and he inspired our great romantic playwright to write "The Undivine Comedy".
@@maiingan07 Versailles is in France
Dante's Divine Comedy is one of the most important books in Italian literature, everyone studies it in school here.. I can't imagine someone chosing to read it otherwise, it is written in an extremly complicated style. You are right, it is not a normal book. I wanna say the lines you read are the very first ones on the book, so i don't think they are that significant at all
I was a Dante professor at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Studying in detail everything Dante wrote moved me so greatly that the final experience of reading the 33rd canto of PARADISO found me in heaven, too.
@@steveculbert4039 all the details and referencies.. it is magnificent! It's a pillar of Italian culture
Looks over at my nightstand. 🙄
@steve culbert once you study it that way it does make for interesting reading. It gets more meaningful every time you reread it.
Yeah we studied it in school too, a looot. And it’s weird hearing someone never heard of it. It’s a masterpiece
Is “narsissistic injury” the medical term for butt hurt? 😂
I believe so 😂😂😂 butthurt on steroids
I just did a realtor search and the home's interior was completely stripped down to structural studs only. It looks like just a bathtub, fireplace and 2 wooden doors are all that remains from the original interior.
No one has moved in because it cannot be retrofitted up to earthquake codes. The house would have to be demolished and the land its on razed before building permits can be issued. Spooky.
I'd love to do a paranormal investigation there. These poor souls
damn i have that exact version of The Divine Comedy that you pictured on my bedside table 😳😳 Brief summary:
It's 3 books in one: Inferno (hell), Purgatorio (purgatory), Paradiso (Heaven), and is about a man Dante, travelling through those three realms of the dead, from Good Friday to the day after Easter, and it's basically about how you learn salvation and Dante's journey into heaven .
It's not that hard to read along, and it is quite an enjoyable book, i highly recommend!
Think I might read it thanks 😊
Same.
@@DollySantana I reccomend you to buy a commented version. As an Italian person that has studied it in Highschool, trust me when I say that almost every line Is connected to particular historical events. It's a literary masterpiece, but I think that the best way to have a grasp on what it really means is to learn about dante's life, and how Italy was presenting itself in that time period, before reading the three books (called "cantiche"). Good luck🤗
that gives me the heebie gibbies. my ex died the day after easter this year. his family was extremely religious and he stuggled w addiction which ultimately took his life. now i feel the urge to read this book.
@@trailertrish the term "heebie geebies" (however you'd like to spell it) is antisemitic. But I do recommend you read the Divine Comedy. It has had such a huge impact on Western media. So many books, movies, and tv shows make reference to it. And it even has a happy ending.
I just want to say I can really see your passion for true crime and even though you only started them you are becoming not just a makeup fav of mine but a true crime fav tooooo!!! You, Bailey Sarien and Kendall Rae
You should check out Stephanie Harlowe and Danelle Hallan. Both are amazing and have about 500,000 subs.
Brittney Vaughn is who I’ve been watching recently.
@@chelseapthib36 thanks I’ll have to look into them!!
@@tiffanytiffers ohhh thank you I’ll look into her!!
@@tiffanytiffers I LOVE Brittney! She always has me laughing, her personality is one of a kind!
That was my favorite american horror story. The creepy part to me was their neighbor, and when she said to keep her daughters sprit with her she had to die inside the house, referencing back to the real house.
don’t forget at the end of ahs season 1 the ghosts all set up a christmas tree in the window!!
I just finished the season in two days! That part was very heartwarming
"Comedy" didn't mean the same thing in Dante's time as it means now
@Calliophe Sage Rose I'm not sure
@Calliophe Sage Rose Italian here. We are taught off of the Greek definitions, but basically a comedy is a "sad/bad story that has a good/funny ending" while a tragedy is a "good/funny story that has a sad/bad ending". Which is why Dante's work is considered a Comedy as it ultimately has a good ending (debatable, but starts in Hell and ends in Heaven and has a moral lessons) and also because it has satirical aspects to it. Most of the people he meets especially in Hell are corrupt politicians and clergymen of his time undergoing punishment for their crime, which was his way of calling out corruption.
@@sarahbrivio4159 Okay, so I most definitely will Google this for more information about this question: Dante's inferno is included in this poem yes?
@@ImJustShayeB correct! Dante's inferno is the first bit section of the book
@@sarahbrivio4159 I mostly know of this through the video game they made based around it. 😂
There’s was also a beautiful Tiffany stained glass window in the house that could have been sold for enough money to get them out of debt. That was discovered after the murder.
Are you sure? That's what was found in the John List case too.
That's a different story.
They talk about it several times in AHS too
That's def from the John List family annihilation
Yeah that guy didn't kill himself, he fled
My mother was a narcissist.when the narc's sense of superiority is questioned and they can't handle it.they do get extremely abusive.
I love listening to true crime while I do my crime scene forensics homework 😂
This case is reminiscent of John List for me, only in his case he killed his family then went on the run, changing his name and starting a new life. They found him decades later.
The guy that out his family in sleeping bags ?
If so I just told someone about his story in the comment section
@@DollySantana I had to go look it up because it has been a while since I watched anything on the case, but yes, he did leave all of them in sleeping bags in the family's ballroom.
Yes! This is what it reminded me of. He had lost his Job and was in debt but felt like killing his family was better than people knowing they were poor.
Omg..you look like a young Tea Leoni! Great video!
Narcissistic injury? Sounds like something a narcissist would come up with. lol BTW green eyeshadow really makes your blue eyes pop, very pretty.
Do you know where at she said narcissistic injury at? I couldn't find that part at all!!
Sounds like something GH would do lmao
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Looked for this comment and couldn't agree more!
I can not imagine that anyone who went to school in any country has not heard of Dante and his divine comedy ...
I'm so glad I found your channel, just finished watching every video of Bailey Sarian, MrBallen and Kendall Rae and you popped up after that 🥺❤️ thank you for making these videos ❤️❤️
I too just recently found this channel I love it! I keep seeing Bailey Sarian I'm gonna have to try her videos but I also watch Kendall Rae her videos I really enjoy and also Christina Randall is another good one!
Check out Eleanor Neale... She's also good..
Luv watching you. I live down the street from the house for all my life. The kids changed their names & moved away. I’ve never heard of the daughter going to 2 house before. I only know of one & that’s directly across the street from the house. The family that wanted to renovate the house started to do it but ended up running out of money and had to stop the project and sell. Over the years the trespassers has totally damaged the inside of the house and no one can ever move in to it without renovating it. As for the one family who did use it for Storage it was their Christmas tree in the window that everyone seems to think that it was the original families Christmas tree. 🥰
I have to say...I don’t think I’ve seen one single person give the amount of detail in their true crime stories as you do! And I am literally subscribed to every TC channel there is! I have lots of favs, but you are quickly becoming my top one! You are a natural! Also you are telling stories we haven’t heard 5 million times already before. THANK YOU!
Indeed, I don't think you've watched the persons that can go over an hour, or even do a multipart that's around eight hours in total. That also makes me doubt your enthusiastic wrongful use of the word "literally".
@peter Wilson, I have watched all of them. Stephanie Harlowe is an exception, as she does put a lot of time and detail. But most just talk for over an hour and we don’t get the details that are left out. My opinion, and you don’t have to agree ✌🏼
Good, you knew whom I was talking about. Still I would ask why did you say Danielle is *the* single person, if you knew there is Stephanie? But what's nice is that now that I have discovered Stephanie, Kendall and Eleanor have also begun to do longer videos. Danielle is also doing well, considering she apparently started only in October, last year. I guess I have been lucky to mostly having found true crimers that are good. However, I know there are those out there, who... I don't want to say anyone is bad, so even if I had names, I wouldn't bring them up.
@peter Wilson, I should have added Steph to that first comment, I had just started watching Danielle Kirsty and was just very pleased that she had included so many details. Maybe this video wasn’t the best example, I was honestly referring to a different video of hers I watched that I had seen covered by a few of the names mentioned, and they left out a lot of things she included. But all in all, I do like the others you have included as well. I just really like that she told the entire story.
Honestly, though, I really just appreciated the fact that she has chosen some lesser known cases, since I watch so many channels, it’s nice to see some stories I haven’t heard before.
Hearing Dante’s inferno and Harry Potter in the same sentence was so weird to me lmoa
Same. "It's not like Harry Potter."
Me: 😳 That is the understatement of the year!
@@ChanaRo613 😂
I got chills
This story reminds me of John List. He killed his entire family then started a new life with a new family. You should also do a story about the Christmas Day massacre of the Lawson Family in North Carolina.
im from NC & dont know about it, ima go do sum research 😭
@@estefanialeon914 my family living in there. Lol
@@joshuadurham1257 thats crazy 😭
@@estefanialeon914 yeah i know! Cuz my great grandmother was from north Carolina. But she doesn't living in the mason family. Or something like that! Yeah! Her accent was native Americans. Just like me and my brother.
First similarity I thought of was the fact that Ben in AHS would keep waking up in the early hours of the morning in a sleepwalking trance, always attempting to sort of murder his family in their sleep… by turning the stove or fireplace on
That passage of The Divine Comedy is the part where Dante has lost everything in life and is about to find his way to hell.
That makes sense
Context is EVERYTHING!
I'm guessing the forensic team counted the pills in his stomach, not the man that swallowed them (?)
Love the Divine Comedy, even did a literature report on Dante. It is dark and quite detailed however, I believe the reason it's called a comedy is because the last of the three books that are compiled in the collection is about paradise or "Paradiso" while the first is Inferno and the second is Purgatorio :)
My favorite seasons from AHS is season 1 Murder House and season 5 Hotel. I grew up in a large 8 bedroom Victorian home here in Northern California that reminds me of the murder house. The whole design and size and darkness with the stained glass windows and the massive staircase are all the same and similar. Even the basement very similar. At times the home felt eary. Especially around fall and Halloween. The hime is still in my family but none of us have moved in since my grandmother passed. Its vacant. I feel my grandmothers soul is in the house. She loved the house so much. My mom and her siblings own it now. I may buy it and move in since its my childhood home but id have to fight my family for it. Not my mom but her siblings. As for Hotel season 5, I've been in some frightening very old hotels here in San Francisco and l can tell u so much death happened in those hotels and its like a world of its own in them so season 5 was on point.
The first season ends with the family putting up a Xmas tree!! Creepy!
Yeah narcissist injury never heard of it either until I learned I was in a long term relationship with a covert narcissist thank god I wasn’t murdered
Courtney How do you know you weren't? You can't know for sure... do you like hanging around old houses...? Just checking....
@@mumtazamiri6409 what do you mean how do I know if I was married to a narcissist? He fit every bit of it. I pulled out my old nursing books from my psych rotation and he was the poster child of it . Plus when I told him he was he didn’t say a word . That was the first time he never had anything to say mr know it all had no rebuttal something that has never happened
I didn't ask how you knew you were married to a narcissist. I asked how you knew you weren't murdered. I'm terribly sorry, I always assume people have my kind of sense of humor. My sincere apologies 🙏
@@mumtazamiri6409 Don't feel too bad, I understood first time. The old houses bit made it obvious.
You might be more familiar with the title Dantes Inferno. It's actually a very interesting ideal of the different circles of Hell, where each Sinner fits in each circle and why
The Inferno is actually only the first of three sections of the poem. There are also Purgatorio and Paradiso. When they are all put together it’s called the Divine Comedy. Inferno deals with Hell, Purgatorio with Purgatory, and Paradiso with Heaven.
@@rachelcrowe4555 That's totally true. But if you had never heard of it, lots of people know the title, Dantes Inferno. It used to be required reading in college when I was attending many,many moons ago
That helps a lot thank you.
That book is a MUST read in Italy. Dante was italian. So if you ask any italian what Dante’s divine comedy is, everyone will tell you they do. It’s a book we are supposed to study in school. It’s at least as important as Romeo and Juliet for English speaking countries. The importance of Dante for italy could be compared to the relevance Shakespeare had in England.
I absolutely love love you and how unique you are! Please keep them coming. You have so much talent esthetically and your story telling. I binge watched everything. I think your personality is absolutely winning!
In the last episode, as you mentioned with how the Harmons were preventing people from moving in, the last family the Harmons chased out left up a Christmas tree or something like that and now there is just a Christmas tree in the Murder House.
those are the first lines of the Divine Comedy, the allegorical meaning is that when Dante was 30 years old (more or less) he got lost in a forest, which represents sin, and so he loses the right path, that is the way to heaven, God...
This narcissistic injury is basically kinda the same thing when there is a abusive/violent partner in a relationship. The violence escalates slowly but if the abuse is suddenly made public, like charges pressed, it usually causes this kind of "injury", and if not handled properly, the situation will most likely end in a murder. This is propably the most common, known from of this. Most just dont know it has a actual name.
Do calm and murder go together? Murder and calm? Murder? The awfulness and terribleness of it will never be forgotten. There is still blood on the organ keys, and they used Bon Ami !
Narcissistic injury is very real. My biomedical engineer husband of over 18 years is a narcissist. He experienced a narcissistic injury from work and his reaction was horrific and still affects him to this day. Thank goodness he’s not a murder.
It is very real. My dad is a narcissist and there was only ever one woman in his life he's never been able to get over because she caused him to have a severe narcissistic injury and he's never stopped talking about her. This was over 10 years ago. I do believe he's completely capable of murdering someone though considering he almost killed my mom by crushing her windpipe and almost did the same thing to me when I was 13. He's a very violent man. Idk about now as I'm 28 and haven't spoken to him since I was 22.
@@f1zzg1g_47 oh my god. i’m so sorry that’s so horrific
Could 31 have been what was left in the package? Is it do significant?
Seems like a likely number if you just up ended a bottle or poured into your hand. I doubt he counted them out.
no...
no he didn't fantasize about killing them in their bed.
it was likely because he didn't want them to struggle or put up a fight, not looking them in the eyes probably helped him to carry out these nightmarish actions.
Falling asleep whilst attempting to read The Divine Comedy is the correct response.
can you do the other houses that influenced AHS??
I would love to see this as an episode as well
Tell me you're not italian without telling me you're not italian:
"I had never heard of Dante's Inferno"
tell me you have no culture without telling me you have no culture. I mean, Dantes Inferno is a classic literature masterpiece,
@@adrianagarza7114 right I had to read in in school for gods sake
@@adrianagarza7114 I thought so too but apparently he's not so well known in some countries 😅
i have heard of inferno but never knew it was a series of 3 in 1 that being the first. and ive never read it or knew what it was about until reading these comments. also, i grew up catholic and im italian. 🤷🏼♀️
This is the most puzzling thing about the whole video.
Yes!! Bailey and you are my absolute favorites! You’re both so fun, genuine, and talented at telling these stories!
This was probably one of my favourite stories ! i love your usual cases but i do love the older , stranger stories..things were always kept behind closed doors , people had to keep up such `appearances ` which gives this all the more mystery ! And Danielle , murder crimes along with haunted stories just go so hand in hand together ! perfect :) thankyou so much really enjoyed it :)
Also most murderers are calm like Ted , most killers are calm. They acted out their rage already. They stay chill
I wonder if the reason why none of the subsequent owners of the house moved in was more practicality/financial than anything else; a house that hasn't been lived in and maintained for a couple of years would usually already need a certain amount of renovation. I can't imagine the amount of work you'd need to do for a house that hasn't been occupied in a decade, 3 decades, 6 decades O.O that will require a LOT of money... From actual fixing of things that have gone with age to updating the backbone of the house (i.e. electricity, insulation, heating, structures, etc.) to make sure they're up to today's safety code. So I wonder if it's simply a case of these newer owners biting more than they can chew.
just an idea about the #31 for the pills: that’s a month’s supply for a one a day medication, which would probably be an easy prescription to get ahold of as a doctor. just a thought
I just want to say how brilliant I think you are, I’ve watched loads of your videos & have subscribed too. I’ve watched a few different channels like this but yours is defo the best, you’re so down to earth & despite how horrible some of the topics are, your approach is very appropriate to the cases. Your opinions are obviously relatable, I am often in disbelief too considering some of the behaviour of these perpetrators. Your make up skills are also sooo good! I’ve never been that great at make up but you’ve defo given me lots of tips. So yeah just wanted to big you up & give you the recognition you deserve 😁 xx
As someone from southern california, I'd never heard of this, but I always appreciate knowing more about my old stomping grounds. Love this series!
Beside your awesome story telling skills, you have beautiful hands and nails 💅 ❤
I've never heard of a narcissistic injury. But I have heard of "narcissistic collapse" which may be the same thing.
I only found your channel maybe 2 weeks ago, and I only have 1 video of yours after this one left to watch until I’m entirely caught up! I love your narrative style and how you really put your own spin on the retellings, whilst always being so respectful and empathetic to victims and their families. I hope you’re taking care over Christmas and doing things just for YOU! ✨😇💗🎄🥰
Sounds like a person Determined to carry out a decision that they have already made. There was another case in Georgia where a man killed his whole family with a hammer in the middle of the night as well and wrote a note about how he was saving them from the cruel world. Turns out the guy lost all the families money in the stock market and had a nervous breakdown and murdered everyone and himself. Deciding for everyone that it was the best thing for everyone. Sounds exactly the same
There was another guy who did that as well he lost his job killed his mother first and waited for his mother and kids to come home and killed them . Put them in sleeping bags and turned the air on. He then unenrolled them left and moved to a new city remarried changed his name he was caught tho .
He shot them... his name was John list
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The goebbles family (working with hitler, father, Joseph was hitler’s propaganda minister) did something similar, when it was sure Germany would lose the war and the allied forces and Russians were close, Joseph goebbles and his wife, Magda made their kids drink some really strong cough syrup (or something similar to make them sleep deeply,) then came back in about 30 minutes and slipped cyanide tablets into all 4 of their sleeping kids’ mouths, killing them instantly. Then joseph shot his wife, Magda, killing her, and then shot himself.
I love this series! thank you so much and you are so gorgeous! :) love your accent too.
You’re amazing at presenting these types of stories, please never stop!!!
As a fan of Bailey Sarian, I wasn't sure I'd like an imitation but wow have you proved me wrong. The research is amazing, your humanity shines through and I am a convert! Binge watching your videos and loving them.
thank you crediting bailey for the idea. love u so much more for that ❤️❤️
I cannot reiterate enough how much I appreciate the lack of ads in your content❤️❤️❤️❤️
the way you think about how people were feelings and thinking about imagining is brilliant! it keeps me coming back you have the best perspective on YT
I absolutely love American Horror Story. And this sounds so much like it and that was probably my favorite season.
The divina commedia was the novel that actually unified my language in my country (Italy) since every region really has its own dialects, cooking and many other differences between one another :) we study in school actually 😁
I will listen to this if i go for a walk tomorrow! I will have to see bc it will snow 3-5 in. or possibly Thursday when I walk my dog! :)
I live in Denver co so I feel ya....
@@queenb5756 snowed today in Alberta haha
@@allana1997 what??!! I’m in Florida and we’ve been in swim suits wearing sunblock and swimming on the beach lol ! It’s very hot here ! Wana trade I’m already over it
Loved this one!! Thank you Danielle ❤️
I love American horror story! it’s an excellent series! I’m hooked on your videos! Thanks for sharing!💜😁
What they usually do in a suicide with pills or prescription meds is counting back from the day it was prescribed. They subtract the prescribed dosage until the day of the suicide. They usually don't know exactly how many were left in the bottle. So say you have a 60 day prescription and you've had it for 29 days you could assume he took the remaining 31 pills or doses if it's injected.
I also have a theory about why nobody moved in. You said that the Children changed their names? Maybe one of them did buy it to keep it from becoming some weird tourist attraction. Their mother died their. They might just leave it to family that they trust to keep it from being a attraction.
Not gonna lie, the Devine comedy slaps.
So excited you're doing this episode (I'm new here)... I was so fascinated by that story, but never got into the research!!
I’m so happy you did this video!! I just found you this week and I have binge watched most of your stories!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love AHS! my aunt is an actor in that show!
Omg I love the eye makeup here! It’s got a watermelon vibe that I love!
New subscriber here! Hi! I'm typically one of those that just watch, like, subscribe, but don't really comment but you mentioned if anyone had more info about the concept of a narcissistic injury. A supervisor (I'm a budding psychotherapist) once told me that a narcissistic injury is typically when a narcissist will seek out therapy, usually with the goal to vent about how they were hurt by someone calling them out against their narcissistic actions or another way that their reputation is being tarnished.
Ive binge watched almost all of your true crime videos, I’m almost caught up. But will always be looking out for new ones! 🎉
I love, love, love your channel!!! Growing up as a small child in central Florida, I remember hearing about the Adam Walsh case…a lot! In fact, my mother used it as a precautionary tale so we wouldn’t wander off from her at stores. If you haven’t done this case yet, I highly suggest you do. It’s heartbreaking and I don’t know if it’s ever been solved, You can fill me in!!
The whole "Narcissistic Injury" thing sounds like another term for "Injured Pride" to me. I think men suffer from this or take it too far more than women. But some people seem to take their pride and their image so seriously that they feel perfectly justified in behaving in extrem ways hence the "calmness" that they exhibit, like "My image is damaged so I have nothing left to lose". Idk. 💚
you’re completely right!! my dad is a narcissist and everything is about how he’s seen by others.
Mm, it makes me think about those men that abuse women who turn them down politely at bars because they can't handle the polite rejection. That kind of thing. You know the type I'm talking about I'm sure.
I'm dying for this eye look on you! Makes your eyes so vibrantly blue
Hello Danielle!
I know that this is a veryyyyy old video but I can't help but feel the need to explain exatly what the Divine Comedy is.
I'm book lover and that poem is sooo much more than just a poem.
You see the Divine Comedy was written by Dante Alighieri, an italian writer (I'm italian by the way and I'm 19).
He wrote the poem when he was 35, wich in his century was considered the middle of a human life and I think that the usual age that people reached in 1600 was like 75 or something.
When he was 9 years old he fell in love with a girl named Beatrice (Beatrix) but wasn't loved back and so, when he reached adulthood, he got married with another woman from whom he had a child.
Beatrix died from the Plague and Dante dreamed her some years later.
In the dream she scolded him for forgetting about her and that was the driving factor for writing the "Divine Comedy".
Originally the poem was only called "Commedia" ("Comedy" and the adjective "Divina" (Divine) was added later on by another writer, Boccaccio if I remember correctly.
Anyway, on with what the work is about.
Dante was broken by her death and he was firmly sure that she was in Heaven so he decided to write his journey from Hell to Heaven and the lines that you read in this video are the ones from the very first page of the poem.
You sed the "La Selva Oacura" or "Dark Forest" rappresent the fact that he lost his way, he lost the righteous way and he found himself lost in sins.
Beatrix, who could see him from Heaven sent someone to help him find his way: Virgilio or "Virgil", a roman poet who wrote the "Eneide" and whom Dante admired greately.
So, "The Divine Comedy" is a journey that explore human sins and virtues and how we as human beings can sometimes lost the road of light and enter the path of sin and darkness.
It's a very, very important poem for the italian literature.
I know that probably you may have learned more in the years that passed from the making of the video but I wanted to leave an explanation for whoever may find your awesome videos and didn't know what is the "Divine Comedy".
AAAAAND....in the poem Dante IS alive, in fact, when he and Virgil reached the infernal river (I forgot the name) they met Caronte, who was tasked with using his ship or draft (I'm not sure wich one is) and he could see that Dante was a living being 'couse he was stil casting a shadow.
So his journey can also be seen as a way of seeing his lost love again.
@@WorldOfBooks-yc9km wow thank you for detailed explanation. I got to know about Dante's work through Dan Brown's Inferno in which Botticelli painted the famous Inferno layers.
When you were talking about Family-cide, and describing the traits of the person who typically commits it, I immediately had a flashback to the John List case. He actually exhibited a good number of these traits. Wow, scary.
I actually heard about this story growing up. I'm from around LA originally so I'd hear stories from some of the school kids. "My cousin that goes here had this happen."
What is it with the hammer at night?? When I moved into this house we were exploring the area and found an old cemetery. Looking up the names we found out the family that lived on the rd in the 30’s was killed in their sleep by their father with a hammer. Look up the Latham’s from haralson county, ga. So weird and sad.
That's so weird, I don't know what it is with hammers! I've not heard of that case before, I just looked into it and it seems so sad. It reminds me of the Lawson family case which happened around the same time
me: i agree, dante’s divine comedy is pretty heavy reading before bed.
also me: i watch/listen to true crime cases every single night to unwind so i can fall asleep.
Ahaahahahhahaah I'm Italian but same here! But I must say in Italian that book is pretty heavy because is not in modern italian. He's considered the father of italian language but he didn't wrote that book yestarday sooooooooooo a pain in the ass! That's why we actually study that book in high school.
I love your videos, your accent is everything! Thankyou for covering these stories 😊💛
Narcissistic Injury! Lol I thought is was always called “ blow to the ego”
I feel bad he got screwed over with the invention but dude a little extreme to try to kill your family! Girl I love your content!!
When did schools stop teaching about Dante’s Inferno? To say it’s a classic would be a colossal understatement.
I had certainly heard of Inferno beforehand, but I didn't study it until college.
I, too, LOVE Bailey Sarian and have watched all her videos, and that's how I found the very lovely Danielle Kirsty. So glad I did! 🥳
Wow girl, you always look stunning, and this ponytail compliments your face shape so much! You look great! (as always) love your content!