The UK's Most Dangerous Woman - Joanne Dennehy | True Crime & Makeup
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- Hey guys! This video is my first serial killer case! It’s the story of Joanne Dennehy, also known as the UK’s most dangerous woman! This case is also known as the Peterborough Ditch Murders, and you’ll find out why in the video. It’s not the most well known story so I’m not sure how many of you will have heard of this one, but it’s a really crazy story and I was shocked when I first came across this case. She is a terrible person and you can totally understand why she has been given the title of the UK’s most dangerous woman after hearing what she did. Would love to hear if you agree in the comments!
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Considering how she changed when she was pregnant and wanted to protect children, I think she wanted to kill rose west because of what rose and fred west did to children. Like she killed several children, and one i know of was her own daughter.
...she kinda has a point there...
exactly what i thought
Yup. I wouldn’t have a problem with her killing Rose. People that hurt children don’t deserve to bake cakes.
I thought the same as you not a power thing more rose killed the people joanne wouldn’t kill women and children xx
@@rebeccalock4900 definitely
As for the flirting, I would guess she's acting hypersexual as a trauma response, at least if she was actually SA'ed as a kid.
That would make sense because a lot of victims become hypersexual after having that traumatic experience.
I definitely agree, my SA as well as my bipolar disorder have been indicated by therapists as the cause of my hypersexuality as a teen/young adult.
Really seems like that was the thing that might've happened. Becoming aggressive, sexual promiscuity, an attraction to older men in particular--that all just seems too coincidental for it to have just happened as a result of simply puberty or something innocuous. It REALLY seems like a trauma response for SA...
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I was thinking the same. It's a coping mechanism for regaining control in the presence of certain types of sexual offenders...that is reinforced through the sexual offender and then relied on whenever dealing with people...sorry to hear about other commenters' trauma from SA. I relate.
You, Eleanor, Bailey and Kendall are so good at telling true crime stories. 🙌🏻💯
Woahh did we just become best friends! These ladies keep me sane!
Don’t forget about Stephanie Harlow!!!
@@Monicaxoxo I actually started her recently bc I binged all their videos she’s awesome too
@@sydfoz3392 facts 😭 they’re so good at telling their stories and educating you on stuff you didn’t know
@@Pumpkinhead1993 and they’re so respectful about it!
i think her flirting might be some kind of subconscious protective skill! it seems pretty obvious that men took advantage of her, so by her flirting with them in her mind she gains an upper hand over them
But doesn't make it right to kill innocent men who never done anything to her
@@minakoaino7043 i never said that 🤔
@@ozydapunk I know I'm just saying what she is doing is wrong and she shouldn't take it out what happened to her on other men
@@minakoaino7043 yes i know that. i never said that it was ok for her to kill ppl?? or even harm them. i was speculating about something the video brought up.
@@ozydapunk okay
There is no way this woman had a happy, fully functional, psychologically healthy childhood. Things are not always as they seem.
she mustve had some trauma from a man with a dog and she had a vendetta against that person
Yes she's probably just to afraid to say the real life he had or maybe she doesn't remember the trauma she went through or maybe she thinks that what she went through was just normal it's common with trauma survivors or maybe the ones who put her through trauma are making her believe that she really did have normal life alot of abusers are like that there good at manipulating people exspecially there victims into believing they've had a good like my own mom would do that crap try to play the inocent
@@grandmastermario3695 ou
yeah, my first thought was she was molested from a young age and when she finally tried to tell people, they didn't believe her. That's so messed up. It's pretty common for young girls to be molested before puberty, or to just be harassed by men before puberty.
@@ontxtteredwxngs Yeah, SH that severe is usually rooted in unresolved trauma, usually SA. As an adult, she did say that her father had raped her as a child, but because she's been branded a pathological liar (which is a symptom of childhood trauma!) people don't believe her.
We know for a fact that she was in a relationship when she was 14 with a man in his 20s, who went on to be the father of her children. Probably, as she got older she realised how fucked up their relationship dynamic was when they were younger, and that triggered her. I also think her parents didn't do enough to deter the relationship, they should have gone to the police and got him arrested.
I know people are critical of her that she was a 'bad mother' to her kids- but think about it, she had those kids with a man who groomed her as a 14 year old. She was also a victim in that situation. He ex-partner sounds like an absolute creep and it was sickening how he was in the media talking about Joanna, when he was a predator and had molested her.
Also, who says she had a 'happy childhood'? Her parents, well of course they would say that. Maybe she was abused by a family member, family friend etc. For a child to have such a drastic change in behaviour and personality- drugs, truanting, running away, trauma could have been a trigger.
You are SO good telling stories. Intetesting, captivating, and yet so respectful.
That part. Like genuinely kind.
@@jules4080 Ugh she did not steal anything. If you go to her channel's "About" page, you will see how she gives credit to Bailey and says that she was inspired by her. But anyway, she studied Criminology so she had interest in true crimes before Bailey was on CZcams!
@@jules4080 bailey has literally said she’s happy that people are starting to do makeup + murder mystery cases because she’s in a place where her livelihood isn’t threatened by the competition and it only bothered her when she was smaller. plus, danielle credits her. she literally says bailey inspired her to start doing these videos. she isn’t stealing individual video ideas. she’s just making content she likes
No death sentence 😏
And they still say black women are mean
"She had a thing for older men" no most young teen girls enjoy the attention from older guys because it makes them feel more mature, that's not their fault. Those older guys should have stayed away from a child.
I was thinking the exact same thing... 15 year olds dont have a thing for anyone... You are 15?!
That’s not true. Girls definitely don’t like attention from older people. It’s gross and creepy
@@masillah1018 teenage girls being hit on by older guys is a common thing and many do like being told that "You're mature for your age" especially by an older attractive guy
@@patienceRachel correct
@@catherinefulton4963 that's not completely true💀
John and his dog both being okay and reunited really helped me get through this awful case
IKR 😭
I am a 50 years oldt man, and I don't give a flying f about make-up, but I most say i am impresed of the way you put that stuff on...
LOL
Lol fascinating isn’t it .. I think there’s an art to it . They make it look so easy too .. it’s not! I end up looking like some meth head that has been out partying for days and stuck in between a man a woman and a clown by the time I’m done ... it’s all about the eyebrows
@@honeybee6858 he he he
It reminds me of chatting with my girlfriends while we get ready to go out. It's a really good format.
Impressive the way her eyes stand out at the end of it ! Like she's looking into your soul ! Kkkkkk 😂
Threatens to kill Rose West.. At least Joanne has at least THAT redeeming quality, if there's one woman that deserves to die in a horrific way, its Rose West!
I'll have to look into this woman I've actually never heard of her
I wonder if it was because Rose West's crimes were against children and young girls.
Me either Berlyn, interesting one, huh.... Probably Brazy, exactly why she would have deserved it.
@@berlynwall1956 She's a peach. Fred and Rose West. Horrific story.
Just from the name I couldn’t remember who Rose West was, so found myself feeling bad she couldn’t bake her cakes 😭 but then I searched her names and it all came back to me 😂😂 yeah she don’t deserve to bake cakes lol
I full heartedly believe there was some sort of child abuse that happened with a man. Whether it be sexual or physical abuse something happened. Maybe it could be true that her father abused her? But I'm not sure because of her behavior, it could have been someone that was close to her/ her family but just not her father, but her father didn't protect her.
It's just a feeling I can't say it's true. It's just theories
I have the same feeling.
I have a theory that backs this up... she wanted that guy she violated the corpse of to wear a black dress. When do people (especially children) usually tend to wear black clothing? Funerals. It was likely a relative and either her parents never noticed (I'm confused as to why they didn't get her any help. I know support like this would've been thin on the ground in 1996, but did they really not do anything besides telling her off???), the abuser really pulled a number on her psyche to make her not tell anyone and it was a relative her parents got on really well with, or she just convinced herself somehow that she couldn't tell anyone.
@@pinkfakecheez women wear black dresses to dates and clubs, the whole "little black dress" thing. I like your imagination but this seems pretty far-fetched. Not saying it isn't possible, though!
She probably told the truth when she talked about her abuse minus the part where she killed her father....it may have just been something she wanted to do or maybe thats when he became dead to her.....
yeah.... and see the scar marks in the picture of her? she was self-harming as well... obviously it's just a theory, nothing provable, but seems likely....
I am SOOO happy John was reunited with his dog -- Honestly I was concerned & I am so thankful you found that out!
“Idk what happened to the dog I know that’s what you’re all thinking” 😂😂😂
She actually wanted to keep one of the dogs. She really loved dogs so she tried to kill the owner and keep the poor guy's dog. She even asks about the dog in the police video and says "he's lovely".
This pattern of her becoming normal during pregnancy and going completely off the rails after giving birth reminds me of a family member of mine who suffers from bipolar and also PMDD a hormonal disorder that causes extreme mental symptoms and distress and apparently those symptoms can lesson or go away completely if you’re pregnant. Just a fun fact.
My mom said the only time I was "normal" was when I was pregnant. I have bipolar and borderline personality disorder. Of course I diligently take my medication now so I'm probably the most "normal" I've ever been. It's really difficult living with these disorders
I thought the same, it sounds like her hormonal levels changed very drastically during pregnancy and mellowed out her moods. Biology is wild
I have PMDD myself and it's a bitch. I'm on birth control and three different meds to keep it under control. I never did what Joanne did, but I was severely depressed and suicidal at times. Also had a problem with abusing Diphenhydramine. Which by the way is awful and not worth it. I call that drug "the desperate man's high" for a reason.
I was thinking pmdd too! I have that, and I was a really happy child, but as soon as hormones became involved (12-13) I almost completely lost the ability to regulate my emotions (adhd had a hand in this-diagnosed at 24) once I got on medication I've been completely fine. My mom even jokes that she "got her old daughter back"😅
So I wouldn't be surprised if this was hormone related/ trauma
Considering her seemingly overnight change as a young teen to start binge drinking and doing drugs, I'd definitely believe she was sexually assaulted as a child. Maybe continuously, and maybe the realization of what was happening came crashing down on her when she was that age and she turned to drinking and drugs to run from it. It may have even been a man with a dog, maybe that's where her interest in attacking men with dogs came from, but this is obviously all speculation.
Over time, her alcohol and drug abuse would have changed her brain chemistry, and if she already had markers for personality disorders then the drugs and alcohol most likely exacerbated it.
I am NOT trying to excuse what she did. Whatever her past, whoever hurt her, those other random men did not deserve to die or be brutally stabbed at random.
However, I do see this as a sad case of a young girl who clearly endured some trauma and did not receive proper help after the fact. Maybe her parents didn't know what happened and maybe she kept it hidden from them and maybe not. Maybe it was her dad and maybe it wasn't. Maybe it was a family friend and maybe it was a stranger. Either way, she clearly didn't think she would be believed, she turned to substance abuse to numb herself, she became overly flirty with men most likely as a trauma response (it's a common one), and her substance use exacerbated or triggered an underlying personality disorder. Perhaps if she had come forward and gotten help, perhaps if she hadn't turned to substances and went to therapy instead, or perhaps if she had never been assaulted as a child to begin with, none of this would have happened. I think almost everyone is capable of heinous actions given the right (or maybe wrong) set of circumstances and/or triggers, and in this case unfortunately there was a perfect storm of events to send someone over the edge.
Again, not an excuse and she absolutely made her own choices and is where she belongs. But it does beg the question: what if she'd gotten the right help as a child? Could her life and her choices have turned out different?
perhaps, many of us, have been abused as children, raped by 2 men within an hour at 15, but do NOT hate men nor kill
A rope and a tall tree.
You know how many evil people on this channel we’ve learned experienced abuse in their own pasts? Why do I suddenly see so many more “oh she was actually probably injured and that’s why” comments on this woman’s case? Shes evil.
Oh stop ffs . There was literally no proof she was ever abused just the word of a liar . Some people are just evil and there’s no reason for it . Stop accusing behaviour
Dont think it is fair to say she "had a thing for older men" she was groomed, she was only 13. Loving these videos anyway, good to hear your Midlands accent? Sounds close to home x
Birmingham.
When I was younger I had a "thing" for liking older men, never pursued any relationship with an older man tho. The only person I've ever been with is my husband that I met in highschool and he's only 6 months older than me.
I like older men, always have, I wasn’t groomed. It’s an attraction, but as I’ve got older…..older guys are still my thing.
It is not JUST a thing for older men under 18. Especially in puberty. You can argue its not just grooming but attachment issues either way she is a child and she doesnt know better that small part is not her fault. I also liked older men and could not consent LEGALLY
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"have a thing for older guys" orrrrr she was repeatedly groomed? Most people who are abused do not only get abused once unfortunately because we learn that that kind of manipulation and control are okay. Most kids like attention from older people but it's the responsibility of the older people to not take that further. Especially if you have issues at home, that kind of positive attention can be so much more valuable to a kid and therefore easier to manipulate. Idk, to me that kind of sudden behaviour change speaks of someone who snapped from their negative surroundings. I've seen it happen often. People also don't take hard drugs for no reason, drugs are an escape from reality. And it's extremely common for abuse survivors to then develop addiction issues. So yeah. Idk I wouldn't find the parental sexual abuse hard to believe. But of course none of that excuses what she went on to do. But I do think because this kind of thing is v common with people who do not to awful things that it's important to portray accurately.
It´s said in the video she was diagnosed with anti-social disorder. This kind of people normally lack of any emphaty, that´s why they become masters in manipulating others. The feel no shame about it, it´s always all an act, a way to get something else from a certain someone or a situation. If she would have been diagnosed early in life, maybe she could have been allowed to have a normal life (with constant watch from relatives and mental care workers). But if these cases go on an adult age without the proper conditions. It´s over, there is really a slow chance that anyone with this kind of disorderd don´t end up stealing, abusing, killing others as if they were things. That´s how they feel, as if others were things waiting for them to be used. I had a brother with this kind of problematic who wasn´t diagnosed in time, so of course he was in jail and now is death. So yeah, mental health is important.
@A M 100%
I’ve always found older men more attractive than people of my age, even today, guys younger than me just don’t do it for me. People have types they like, I’ve not been groomed, I just like older guys. And winner winner older guys have got coin in the bank lol lol. That’s a joke by the way.
@@stephenellwood161 Okay, but that's you. Women being conditioned to be more sexual at a very young age is pretty common in abusive homes. The term "daddy issues" comes to mind. When a girl is mistreated by the male figure that's supposed to protect her, she could turn to older men for comfort and protection because they usually have something that younger guys don't have. Jobs, money, maturity etc. Also, people that say they weren't groomed, don't actually always know that they were groomed. They don't just go around telling people they were molested and when she finally DID, no one believed her bc she was considered "a liar." Of course her dad is going to say he didn't abuse her. He doesn't think he should be responsible for his actions that put all of this in motion.
@@ontxtteredwxngs ugh i cant believe im explaining this for the 24th time...18 y/o with a 27 y/o boyfriend here. I have dated guys my age before and they are just to put it bluntly "useless" then i started dating my bf who is 9 years older and for the first time i dont have to put up with dumbass bullshit in a relationship. I havent been groomed, my parents are actually 20 years appart and they have been happily married for 18 years. Has it ever crossed your mind that some people are just attracted to older people just cuz?
I know it seems like a big thing to process for ppl like you that go around dropping the word grooming without actually knowing the concept of other ppl's relationships
To be honest, from what she's said about not killing women or children, it's perfectly in character to go after Rose West. If Myra was about still, she probably would've been on the shitlist too.
I am a diagnosed female with ASPD and it’s shocking that this is the first time I’ve heard of a crime that involves a female with the same condition
John Rogers is the REAL hero for surviving all THAT trauma to his aged body. Bless them all*
Hi! I just watched all your true crime videos after I found this one😂 I really liked the uk ones 'cause I hadn’t heard of them (being a fan of Bailey Sarian and the my fav murder podcast) I think you should focus on those cause they’re not that much talked about. I hope you continue with this series. I really liked how you told the story and even though there were a lot of names you made it easy to follow.
Aww thanks so much! I'm definitely planning on doing a lot of UK cases and I will definitely be continuing with this series 😊 I find researching these cases really interesting and I'm so glad you're enjoying them! 💜
@@DanielleKirsty11 do you you do not have to do everything Bailey does. 💜
Agree. Everyone will be flocking your way to hear about cases in the UK. You have a new subscriber here in the US. CHEERS!
Agreed. I've watched everything and these cases are fresh! Thanks Danielle!
Nicole you should also try the podcast Morbid! I too love Bailey and used to listen to MFM religiously but Morbid is my new favorite!
I love that you quickly scupper to reassure us that the doggies were ok, you truly know your fan base and I'm here for it 🥰
You are like the UK version of Bailey (that’s meant as a huge compliment) and i love it!! I’m so glad i found you. 🥰🥰
5 seems to be her number. There were 5 years between her and the men she had her first 2 relationships with. 5 stab wounds in most of her victims. And she had 5 victims, although only 3 died.
As someone who was abused as a child and had a big behavior change. I’m would assume she was being molested or something. Anti social problems are very common after experiencing that
drugs , mental illness or medical imbalance of hormones at puberty (13yrs). Older boys make girls feel grown up and practically have a car, buy drink drugs etc not always innocent victim
I’m a certified true crime addicted and haven’t heard of the other two female serial killers you mentioned, would love a video on them. I’m binging all your true crime videos today hahaha love from Brasil!
Myra hindleys story is on elenors channel
So I’ve watched a ton of your videos and I love how you just off hand state that you have a degree in criminology, which is amazing and so are you!
Hi, I'm from Wisbech in Cambridgeshire. Once lived down the road from her, her then boyfriend and two daughters, in Holmes Drive, Wisbech. Their eldest daughter went to St. Peters Primary School around the same time as my children. Didn't know any of this until she was arrested for murder, but remembered her going to and from the school chillingly.
What were they like ?
Omg that’s so wild. The world is so small I guess…. But that’s so creepy
I literally just discovered your channel literally an hour and half ago... You're fantastic... I'm now down a rabbit hole on your channel... Binge watching all your videos on this gloomy, rainy day here in the States...
I think she threatened Rose West not just to be top dog though, you think Rose West killed a child. Might have had something to do with it if she thought she was "protecting" children.
When she didn’t see her own kids because she didn’t care enough to change her behaviour
I have heard from multiple people that being stabbed feels cold and they don't realize it right away which gives me extreme anxiety
Saw this in my feed, and immediately started clapping excitedly, LOL.
I think the fact that Rose West is accused of killing her 8 yr old step daughter is what set off the death threats.
Yeah but she also killed her own biological child aswell
She's not accused of it. She did it. She has a life sentence for her child abuse, among other crimes against adults.
The 18 year old dating a 13 year old and criminal behavior made me remember this. When I was in middle school there was this guy who failed 8th grade 4 times he was 19. He dated the middle school age girls. It was super weird. He had his own studio apartment and worked evenings at the mint mart down town. I think most parents didn't saying anything because they thought he had learning disabilities but he really didn't. My oldest sister is very blunt and asked him once why he kept failing. He was failing because he would only show up few days a month. To this day I think he kept getting held back because he thought it was easier to date middle school girls.
Was this in the US?
Yeah where was this?
@@tylerlienau7548 Pennsylvania this was back in the early 90's. It was 93 & 94 when I was middle school.
In the early 2000s we had a 17 year old guy at our middle school. Dating 14 year Olds 🤢
Just found this video! I actually played Joanne Dennehy on TV (Britain's Most Evil Killers)... Joanne and her pen pals HATED me 😂😂
She also apparently convinced them to send me hate mail.
That's so interesting!
Wild!
Crazy!! Must be glad she will never get out
O.M.G.
No way🤣 that is great!!! How the heck did they get your address tho?! That’s kinda creepy!!!
New category: Spreerial Killer. Scary stuff. Love your coverage of all these cases and your make up is on point.
Great work 👍🏼😊
Can you please cover the Ana Kriegal case? Ireland's youngest killers at 13
I'll definitely add it to my list and take a look into it. I'm currently researching a case from Ireland that I might be filming very soon! 💜
@@DanielleKirsty11 Thanks :) I have some sources you could use. Boys are known as Boy A and Boy B. It's a really sad case, happened in 2018 x
I feel like Boy B should be let go I feel that Boy A had done most of the things yes Boy B is guilty of somewhat but he ran and didn't do anything to Ana. Which I don't know I haven't read it all so I guess I will see.
This story is so fascinating. While Joanne's diagnosis seems clear -- antisocial personality disorder, she actually meets all 7 criteria and you only need 4 -- the "why" is so unclear here. We've got two alternatives: one, there was some sort of early-childhood neglect or abuse that served as a trigger which went undetected and unreported, or two, that she had some sort of genetic or physical abnormality that caused this. Something did cause her to become exceedingly dangerous with both pronounced psychopathic traits as well as truly horrifying inability to control her impulses, and I doubt we'll ever know what it was.
I do agree that there is something there with the way she wants to protect children; it does indicate perhaps that she either witnessed or was victimized at some point in her childhood. I do think her overall profile is also notable for this over-the-top persona of being a tough and intimidating person; it is suggestive of some sort of over-compensation for a history of vulnerability. If she was abused as a child by either a party in the home or outside the home, I can easily see her refusing to disclose this event, as it isn't consistent with her projected self-image. She never wants to be seen as as victim.
The beef with Rose West is the only funny part of this story. I agree that picking this fight was likely a play for power, but she picked Rose because Rose abused and killed her own children.
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Out of ALL of the true crime and make up ladies you are my fav!! You are genuine, not fake. You make the stories sooo interesting with all of the details you provide as well as your opinions.....you make me laugh too ☺️
Even living in Canada, I've heard about this woman! Amazing makeup as always and I love these videos. I definitely look forward to them
I think that something happened to her when she was younger. I remember reading or hearing from somewhere that when you are assaulted you tend to go 1 of 2 ways, you become a recluse or you become a sexual deviant. It makes sense why it is easy to fall for this chick because she had to learn to play on with her strengths which was her charm. The 3 unfortunate souls that didn't recognize that before she murdered them didn't even get a chance to put 2 and 2 together. I am in no way making an excuse for her, I'm saying this is how serial killers come to be. I'm coming to learn if we just loved each other more and set our differences aside, we could make the world a better place but humans will be humans.
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Alot of the cases you cover i have researched before and already know very well but I will ALWAYS click on your covers of them because your presentation is always captivating and I love your personal opinions.
I hope you always keep giving your analysis of the case, it is often super interesting and opens my eyes to some things I didn't think of before.
Youre amazing 😘 love your content! And you are also great at shutting down stupid beliefs in cases (like the tiktok trend murder where people were copying the murderer) thank you for always being real and voicing your opinions 🙏
Have you done Rose West's story yet? It's fairly well known, even here in the States, but I'd love to hear you tell it. 😊
I don't know it ! 🙋♀️ Please do it !
I’ve never heard about this case
This was the first I’d heard of her and would love a story done
Never heard of her. I'd love for her to make a video!!
@@mumtazamiri6409 it’s horrific
Hi Danielle, bored musician here in the UK 🇬🇧, just wondering if you wanted a theme tune composing, all services free 😊
That's a beautiful thing to do for her or anyone. Love and respect from Sweden 🇸🇪❤
@@angieashkar76 that means a lot thank you 😊
What a nice gesture. It shows that sometimes you do get something for nothing.
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@@c4stlevania i am so sorry you are going through this Gabriel. Life is rarely fair. You are in my thoughts. Stay strong.
I'm listening from USA and have been to UK many times in the past. I love your accent and often listen to your channel with head phones on while going to bed. I catch myself having to rewind back to where I remember before I fell asleep. Your content is top tier and you make content on really unheard of cases.
I love your channel! I have heard this case before but the way you describe the details and your theories makes your channel one of a kind. Plus your make up is always on point!
For women with mental illness, that act crazy it starts when they hit puberty typically. That could be it. I personally have a female family member who changed when she went thru puberty and has acted differently ever since then calmed down after menopause
I just made a comment similar to this before I saw yours! This is very true. Hormones have a significant impact on mental health. Hormonal birth control can cause severe issues with women’s mental health as well. Even if they’ve never had any problems before.
yep, and I think the hormones through pregnancy helped stabilize her moods, as well as the fact that she wanted to have a healthy pregnancy i suppose, but then the postpartum hit and it was back to her old ways.
True, my depression and menstrual cycle started the same damn year. It's very common for things to start to manifest at that time.
However, in this woman's case, her other behaviours point to some sort of sexual trauma, not just a mental illness spurred by hormonal changes during puberty. You don't usually end up with a personality disorder out of the blue.
Interesting. I can't wait until menopause is over, and see if anything changes. I'm so hopeful everything will be better.
This was such an interesting case. I had never heard of it! What a terrifying woman! Love these videos please keep making them!
OH MY GOD THAT EYESHADOW LOOK IS MY FAVORITE SO FAR. SLAY QUEEN.
I love how excited you are at the beginning of this one. Lol. I’m late commenting on just about all of these cause I’m new to the whole true crime thing but you,Bailey,Brittney & Sherilynn IM OBSESSED! And Thank You for my bad dreams at night lol
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Thank god the dog was okay!
"well, gary. i'll tell you now... it wasn't" is such a funny line
Danielle: 'Managed to call the police.'
My brain for a split second: 'WAIT...the dog called the police!?'
I like the path your channel is going down recently. These videos are great and you're so good at them. Enjoyed this one xx
Aww thanks so much! I'm so glad you're enjoying them 💜
I feel like she hated her ex so much for taking her kids away. I know he should have and I'm glad he did! But that's what it sounds like
Imagine a serial killer being threatened by another serial killer...like what are the chances we are both serial killers? Pretty high it appears 😳☠👀
I sit here every morning watching these girls while doing my makeup
I'm addicted to true crime channels I'm so glad I found you.
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How she "changed overnight" makes me think someone (an older man) was abusing her, in that way. Maybe her dad. And it was her turning point and it switched something in her. If not her dad, maybe a neighbor and he used his dog, to get her. Like come see my dog, and pet him inside. That's my theory
Oh damn that does explain why she wanted to kill a man with a dog! I didn’t even think about that.
I love your true crime videos🥰. Can’t wait for more ❤️
New to the channel loving the cases you’re covering and how detailed the retelling is, HOOKED!!
Also really loving watching the makeup applications, beautiful 🙂!
Honestly you are my favourite true crime teller.. I've only recently found your videos and i literally watch like 3 in a row because you explain them so well!
Being a survivor of S..assault I can't help but feel something traumatic happened to her and she never told anyone,sadly most SA do not tell or it's much later in life that they reveal what happened to them. It doesn't excuse anything, it's completely tragic all the way around. Prayers for ALL victims involved
She doesn’t “have a thing for older men”, she was groomed, language about sexual assault is important, please. Be careful.
yeah britney vauhgn said some crap like this about teen boys being assaulted and saying they probably liked it and I immediately unfollowed.
@@ontxtteredwxngs really? Which video?
She wasn’t sexually abused she just wild
Not every teenage girl has be 'groomed' to like older men.. When i was 15, i like older guys and i was never abused or groomed or anything like that. So don't assume that's the case every time, sometimes we just like older men. It's quite a normal thing, actually.
@@claragillespie1063 the problem here is that she never had a "thing for older men" she was downright groomed and was probably told things along the line of "you're so mature for your age" adult men sought out a young teenage girl and pursued a romantic and sexual relationship with that child .. this is sexual assault and you don't just go round saying that a victim of childhood SA had a "thing for older men"
I’m just obsessed with your channel! Your are by far, my favorite to listen to. Thank you for everything you do!
I live in Peterborough and I remember this so clearly as a teen. One of the victims sons was a close friend at secondary school. I can never normally bring myself to listen to this case on any true crime channel but thankyou for executing this brilliantly
I'm so glad she was caught before she could kill, and attempt to kill, anyone else. She began literally, randomly, choosing her victims off the street.
Kudos to law enforcement!
Not only do I binge watch your videos because I love the content and you make things SO easy to follow along-but also to practice the different UK accents/dialects-you keep my midlands accent convincing.
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Please dont stop doing you, with your degree and passion AND COMPASSION. I love what you do.
I'm so glad I found your channel, it's so interesting! By the way, your eyes are amazing!
Oh dear God we have the same birthday! Us Virgos don't claim her😂
me too!
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Oh my goodness!!..your end makeup result is so so amazing!!..really stunning..
I love seeing the makeup progress as the story of the case progresses its quite unique and I'm now inspired to do makeup more now haha I can always look for certain looks you do now haha but I love those rainbow eye shadows you did great job :)
Great video. Thank you for doing all this research. I love true crime but I'm also lazy so being able to just listen is very helpful 😄
Aww thanks so much! It does take a lot of research but I enjoy the process and love making these videos, I'm glad you find them helpful 😊💜
I love how you always mention their zodiac as well. I personally don't do anything with zodiacs, don't really care for them but I think it's a cool small detail for your subscribers who are interested in it. might be interesting to them to see if a certain sign keeps reoccurring
Addicted to your channel 😂 also thank you for all the makeup tips sis. From watching you my makeup has been on point lately!! ❤️❤️❤️🎯
I love the sarcasm you have lol. I’ve only known about ur channel for a few months and have already watched ever crime and makeup video you have posted love ya 💗😋
I think that Joanne had hormonal problems. Her behavior suddenly changed right when she would have started puberty. As she went through her teenage years, when hormones are typically crazy, she becomes worse. Yet when she unexpectedly became pregnant, she suddenly stabilized. After the baby was born; bam, right back to crazy town. When the next pregnancy came, the same thing happened.
It would be fascinating to have an Endocrinologist study this woman.
I have a friend that has this condition, since I was little, I was never scared of her /she never threatend me, many times I saw her switch flip (not to this extent), for years her mum and drs just did nothing just labelled her wild,violent vicious & vile, which simply wasn't true ,the only time she had peace and full control, so calm was when she was pregnant, she suffered so much but after her second pregnancy and a second opinion she got her diagnosis and the help she needs and now is who she was always meant to be balanced
Agreed I know everyone wants it to be sexual abuse but there are hormonal disorder
It’s actually pretty common which is why so many women have trouble using hormone based birth control like the pill. I could never personally use anything hormonal and love my copper IUD! The best I’ve ever felt in my life was when I was pregnant… except for the nausea, vomiting, back pain, sore feet, etc. lol
I'm not deffending Joanne Dennehys actions here, but something was done to her in some point of her life, wich made her a disturbed killer. It's 2021 now, so let's forget about all that "evil" bullshit.
Cry me a river...
Exactly nobody is Born evil its all Psychology 👏👏👏
Even if she was sexually abused or something like that happened to her, you don't become a killer, lot of women get assaulted, harassed but they don't go around murdering people, she was sadistic by nature and that incident was just a trigger
I’m watching this in order to help make a case study for my ALEVEL criminology homework and omg I love your content! (:
So I've been binge watching your channel since my sister recommended you because we both love Bailey Sarian! And well girl, you're freaking awesome too!! I love that you have a background in criminology and you use your knowledge to make educated theories, just love you! Keep it up. I'll be watching :)
Joann may have targeted RoseMary because Joann seemed to want to protect children while RoseMary and her husband actually killed one of their own daughters and abused all of their children.
actually joanne didnt care about that, it was known she did it cause she wanted to show everyone who the top dog was. that's why she did it
I’m not convinced by that. Joanne wasn’t bothered about protecting her own children was she? She only cares about herself
Didnt remember who rose west was... but makes sense Joanne would go after her bc she (Rose) preyed on women and children 🤔. Fascinating case- never heard of it!
Interesting. I didn't know about rose
Yeah and Rose and Fred (her Husband) bumped off their own teenage daughter and hid her under the patio and they was sexual abusers/torturers
YOU ARE THE BEST STORYTELLER! Love your content!!
You have a new subscriber..i love the way you tell stories !
Just conjecture, but I wonder if the reason she targeted men specifically with dogs is because a male predator (as you suggested might have related to her previous trauma) might have used a dog as a lure before sexually assaulting her.
Sad story. I'm relieved that some of her victims survived and hope they are doing well
You’re a great teller of stories 🥰
Love your videos. Didn't love the beginning of this one though due to the fact that she was clearly assaulted. She was 13 with an 18 year old. That's not consensual no matter what. She was groomed and assaulted by a legal aged adult. I'd guess that wasn't the start of her assaults. Please make sure that's always the story line. It's important. Especially when you have a platform (ever growing 😉). Children can't have "a relationship" with adults. When we use language like saying they were in a relationship with an adult it normalizes it.
I'm loving your videos and just found you a few days ago. Been bing watching! Love the depth you go into with thinking and clearly your depth of research.
Thanks and keep it up!!
Honestly thank you for clarifying what happened with the dogs! It was making me anxious
I love your true crime videos!! I have been binging !!
I have yet to also listen to your previous one but I’ll do that once it’s easier to take walks due to the snow that we got in the northeast of the US😂
I love how she knows we're all concerned about the dog too. 😂
Thank you for sharing Danielle ❤️
Okay I’ve recently found your channel & i an OBBBBBBSSEEEESSED. I’m binge watching everything 🥰🥰
God i remember dating a 21 yr old wen i was 14 n he asked my parents to marry me w/o even asking me! My mom said absofuckinlutley not, but my sick ass dad took him behind my moms back gave his consent & helped look for states where the age legally allowed was 14 n only needed one parents permission. They then approached me n wen i said no i was made to leave n move in w/ my grandma. The whole relationship my bf was pressuring me to get pregnant! My father said he wanted a secure future for me n bc he was a marine etc dad thought id be taken care of n he n my mom could be child free to do what they wanted lmao so yea the most bizarre things can happen w/o anyone's knowledge n fuck you up.
Oh dear, that's such a selfish thought process for a parent to have. I hope you're doing better now, I suppose you ended up living with your grandmother for a while?
I always got worried about my friends as a teenager, when they were dating guys in their 20s.
You should talk about the case study which is also a movie now called perfect sisters, I am loving these videos 💕💕💕
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Just found your channel! I’m big on tones..not everyone can tell a story with knowledgeable info as well as hold someone’s attention. I appreciate the channel and lol forward to watching all your videos!!
I really don't think it has anything to do with her dad. I don't get that from her. There could have been abuse by an older man but it didn't have to be her father. She could have had uncles and the like. I just don't think it was her dad. And didn't she start skipping school? Could have been a teacher.