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We souped-up our Honda ST1300 with a number of quick & easy performance mods that you can do to make your ST Pan European run better and reduce the amount of heat the rider feels off of the engine. If you're looking for more performance or to reduce the heat you're getting from your Honda, then this is the video you've been looking for.
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So I just reposted my results up here,, where it is more visible. I was as skeptical as any,, about removing the upper tuned intake stacks. I only have one test day on it,,, but no downsides discovered yet.
Okay,,, so in the past couple of days,,, I got the above done. First removing the upper curved velocity stacks. Leaving the lower short straight stacks in place c/w fastener safety rings, as they basically hold the airbox to throttle bodies. Also,,, I did throw in that freshly oiled K&N filter. And much to my pleasant surprise,,, I got a decent increase in useable torque. Very impressed,,, I then removed the x-long baffles from the 18" Del's. Sure it's louder now,,, but more air/fuel in and more combusted mixture out = even better results. This is just basic hot-rodding. The Bazzaz air/fuel map that I am using (13.2/1 roughly),,, is just rich enough for good power, and minimal afterburn. So far,, fuel mileage does not appear to be negatively affected,, despite me having a whole lot of fun. But tomorrow, I will tank up and do a proper mileage check at normal speeds. Standby for more good news !!
I appreciate and applaud your efforts Alan, your reward is more POWER which is always better than less and for rest of you naysayer armchair wrenches just four words... I TOLD YOU SO!😃
@@RodRidesWrenches So I was able to do a short 109km fuel consumption test,,, which was combined city/highway at about 10-15km over posted,,, so fairly tame. It was over known and frequently traveled routes,, during medium winds,, and not much in the way of performance driving. Good news,, is that there was an improvement in fuel consumption, as measured and calculated with pump volume and gps distancing. Average consumption was up about 1.5km/L. But I need to do a longer ride,,, mostly highway,,, of about 200km minimum to verify this. Should get a chance at weeks end,,, and I promise,, no hyper-mile-ing !!
So first of all,,, sorry for the delay. And also sorry that I only have combined city/highway results available yet. But,, I have done those twice,, because I couldn't quite believe the good results. And please remember,, that these results are from a Bazzaz modified F/I setup,,, that is no longer available. Anyway,,, the 3 elements modified, exhaust baffles out, F/I mod's, and upper velocity stacks removed (okay,,, maybe the K&N too). Mileage was calculated using pump volumes,, and gps distance measurements. Fuel was 91 octane. Speeds were posted limits, to +15kph posted. Maximum shift points 4500rpm. So conservative speeds, but not horribly slow. No large hilly terrain,,, and moderate side winds only. So before the upper stacks and baffles were removed,,, this fuel map produced between 16-18km/L. After the upper stacks and baffles were out,, and the K&N added,,, the consumption improved to about 20-22km/L, when driven at the same performance level. Not bad at all,,, especially considering there is more torque on tap now, should I choose to use it (and I do,,, frequently, lol) !! I hope to do a highway only check before the weekend. Cheers,, Alan
I added the Delkevic to my ST1300 and liked the tone with the Baffles in place...... but after several weeks, I missed the original quiet cruising of the original mufflers and went back..... The ST1300 is such a pleasure to drive just like she was sold to me back in 2006....
😭These bikes sound so good uncorked...
After owning two ST1300s I found the best thing to do for seals and brakes was to take the bike to Honda and have all the fluids replaced every other year. That was around 25-30k miles. It really renews how well the fork and brakes work, ensures your radiator and clutch fluid are in good kit.
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Wonderful video. I’ve been wrenching on bikes for 20 years. I learned a few things!
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Good information. I will be applying some of your performance modifications to my ST. Especially before I go back on the racetrack.. ❤️🤙🏍️
I subbed. I just bought a 05 ST.. Going to pick her up now.
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I just got two(yes 2) st1300 police bike in terrible states, for super cheap. Extra motor and tons of kit. Plan is for a commuter and a cafe project. Thank you so much for your break down and inspiration on how to make up for the cheap price of the bikes. Seriously, I really appreciate these videos!
Do you want to sell the ecm from 1 of them?
I been looking for a ecm from a police st1300
Since you asked, and yes I'm a bit late, I hate loud exhausts. I have a Delkevic full system on my ST1100 and I'm not that happy with the sound. Of course bafflers are still in. I much prefered the stock exhaust sound. Alas it was rusted out and finding a good second hand replacement is almost as expensive as the full Delkevic system. Which by itself is a good system, indeed good value for money. My 4th gen VFR (RC36) still has the stock exhaust and I much prefer this. Depends also on the engine type, at least for me. I also have a R1100 RS with stock system. It is relatively loud yet the sound of this boxer twin I find very pleasing. It is a very personal matter of taste. Although I do see your valid point about safety.
I have a set of pipes arriving sometime this week. Header wrap next. I've heard the ST with these pipes and I think they sound just fine.
Thanks let us know how it turns out!
I had Delkevic pipes.I don't like the excess noise, so I went back to stock. Too much noise can add to fatigue if you do long rides. The ST is after all a mile muncher. My neighbours are also grateful for more quiet.
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What is never mentioned is that after-market mufflers need to be serviced every 8-10k miles. They basically consist of a perforated pipe wrapped in fiberglass. That's why they're so much lighter than stock mufflers.
However, that fiberglass burns up after about 8-12k miles and needs to be re-newed. Otherwise there will be a lack of back pressure and it will also sound much louder and worse.
The stock muffler is built to never have to be serviced and has steel chambers for the back pressure and sound reduction, hence the high weight.
Are they for sale, i want to put a set on my bike, cheers
Glen Middleton, as above text cheers
@@sv650nyc7 While I have baffled 18" Del's on my '04. I have also run a '12 with stock pipes. Two main reasons are,,, it (the '12) has lower emissions and gets great/better mileage. It is also pleasantly quiet. It has performance equal to the '04,,, while doing other things even better. So it does not much sense to spend a lot of money on performance mod's for the '12. Question though,,, where do you find the re-packing recommendations for aftermarket mufflers, like the Del's ?? thx,,,
Great video and thanks for the 101! I’ve been wanting to upgrade the exhaust on my sewing machine but wasn’t sure which one to get 🙏🏼
Good stuff! Be sure to let the community know how it turns out and what your thoughts on the exhaust are. Thanks for liking & subscribing, new video coming in a couple weeks!
Exactly sounds like a sewing machine, you nailed it!!!!
Dang good video... quality information and a good understanding
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Love the new exhaust sound on your ST. Who says just because we ride a Honda it has to sound like a sewing machine? The Honda V-4's are famous for their awesome exhaust sound, now you can enjoy that glorious V-4 sound, oh and it's not too loud at all, I know, I own a Harley also with an aftermarket 2 into 1.
Exactly! Thanks for watching my vid, hope you'll check out some of my others.
Hello, interesting to see series of videos of a service/setup of a bike. Thanks for uploading!.
About the block-off plates, or removal of the air valve, I did it in my Yamaha MT09. It's not done because of performance gains, but to remove something that adds some complexity, with no gains and some obnoxiousness as well is added. Without the catalytic converter, the injected air mixed with the unburnt fuel, generates a lot more of explosions outside the exhaust when releasing the throttle. I just blocked the system to avoid that air generating more explosions than it should and having higher temperature in the exhaust.
Hi Diego, thanks for the feedback of your own experience!
Excellent video and advice. I find louder pipes on a touring bike annoying on long journeys, great on a commuting bike though to get you noticed.
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Hello from the UK and thanks for the very professional and informative video, however I'm perfectly happy with the bike in standard trim.The only modification I would consider is reducing engine temperature and that's only something I've experienced as a negative whilst touring through Spain ,in the UK it rarely gets over 60f lol!
See video if you have not already found this link, many steps to reduce heat. czcams.com/video/kM8SBjtVu6A/video.html
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These snorkels are not just for show and they most likely do not only restrict air flow.
You probably loose performance by removing them, not gaining.
I agree with the exhaust change and the DB killer removal. There is still a silencer inside the pipe, just not the Euro DB killer insert.
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I put a Black Widow on my 5th gen VFR and am very happy with it. Just the right db level. Ordered it from the UK to the US and received it crazy fast, less than 5 days I believe. I like being heard as well but a straight drag pipe Harley is a little much in my opinion. It doesn't bother me but not sure I would want it.
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I purchased a low mile used ST1300 2007. I had a bit of popping. Any time I purchase a used motorcycle I remove all the plastic and give it a good look over to see the disaster of mods the previous owner may have done. To my shock all stock but pipes were Delkevic also. After a good look at the exhaust front to back the pipes were installed very poorly. You could see the dark exhaust leaks where the mufflers joined the pipes.
Took them off cleaned and used high temp gasket maker at the joints. And bam no popping at all.
I tried the pair valve mod and lost the high idle as it reached temp. Once warm idle it stays at 900 rpm. Going to see if this causes any stalling in the next few day.
Since I had no popping after my exhaust re-install I may put the pair valve either back to stock or instead of blocking it just reduce the air to allow some through. When I had several Victory bikes I used an item called an idle air valve. you would limit the air by an between valve to 1000rpm to the start up idle. Once warmed up you could still achieve normal idle.
The purpose of the IAV was to reduce popping for Victory bikes.
I have a'94 ST 1100 and its getting a little worn out. I looked at the 1300 and like the look and performance, but its got too many issues that i dont like , like fuel mapping, seat discomfort, top heavy and its a bit of a pain to work on logistically, and has the potential electronics / software problems that cause you to be stranded. so tomorrow i am gonna look at another low mileage 1100, cuz they re just nearly bullet proof under 75 k miles. I do wish the 1100 looked like the 13 though, thats for sure, but i will take reliability over style. Enjoy your videos though, they are very well done.
When I upgraded from my ST1100 in 2011, I chose a Concours14 which I like. It was less expensive and made more power. It took quite a bit to make it fit me as I have short arms and legs and the bars were too far away and the seat was tall for me. In the fall of 2019, I discovered that ST1300’s were really reasonably priced, so I picked up a 2007 ABS. In 2020 I took it to Montana in August. The first day out, I melted some prescription pills that were in my luggage. Those mufflers get really hot!! I have never seen that with my ST1100 or my Concours14. The stock mufflers may have to go. A bit more power would be nice too.
I also found the Concours a bit of a stretch but it is a picnic compared to my K1300SP. I really enjoyed putting 3000km's on a Concours on one cross country trip and will have one again. Thanks for Liking & Subscribing! New Video Coming Friday Sept 17th...
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@@RodRidesWrenches I put “ape hangers” on my Concours and could have used some on my 350 mile ride on the ST1300 yesterday. I spent a week in August putting 4000 miles on the Concours around North Dakota, Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota.
appreciate the video's. And am going to be trial removing the velocity stacks on my '04. Although I am skeptical, it is an easy try. I have a spare K&N that I may throw in as well,,, although I don't expect much there either. What the heck,,, it is easy to do. My '04 currently sports Del's c/w extra length baffles (am not a noise guy),,, And, Bazzaz fuel mapping. Both those mod's work great,, creating stronger and smoother, more useable torque curve. All measured by the old seat of the pants dyno,, of course. But, I do have a carefully calibrated butt-o-meter, with about 50 years of street riding. So, Stay tuned,,,, heh-heh,, eh,,,
Okay,,, so in the past couple of days,,, I got the above done. First removing the upper curved velocity stacks. Leaving the lower short straight stacks in place c/w fastener safety rings, as they basically hold the airbox to throttle bodies. Also,,, I did throw in that freshly oiled K&N filter. And much to my pleasant surprise,,, I got a decent increase in useable torque. Very impressed,,, I then removed the x-long baffles from the 18" Del's. Sure it's louder now,,, but more air/fuel in and more combusted mixture out = even better results. This is just basic hot-rodding. The Bazzaz air/fuel map that I am using (13.2/1 roughly),,, is just rich enough for good power, and minimal afterburn. So far,, fuel mileage does not appear to be negatively affected,, despite me having a whole lot of fun. But tomorrow, I will tank up and do a proper mileage check at normal speeds. Standby for more good news !!
Being an ex Roadracer I really enjoy the ST. Thanks for the tips!! I installed a used two brothers pipe I like the noise saves me from getting hit by other vehicles!. I’m gonna try the air box mod and heat wrap.
Thanks for the vids ride safe
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As far as noise levels, there is definitely a happy medium. I love quiet stealthy bikes, especially off road or woods riding. But i find and V2 or V4 engines sound amazing with less restrictive pipes but they have to be modest or it wears me out on long rides. I dont always buy into loud pipes save lives. I think this used to be the case but ive changed my opinion. People drive with earbuds, radio cranked, and all the other distractions. As well as most drivers in populated areas being less courteous and more selfish. I truly think loud pipes are useless in today’s world as a safety tool. The only thing that can protect me as a rider is maintaining a safety bubble from others on the road. I think the highway is one of the most dangerous places to ride and takes the most attention energy to stay safe. Cheers on the great vids!
My st1300 is not even looked at by cops vs when I ride Supersports. It's great for zooming around and just vibing and doing roadtrips.
i wired a semi truck backup alarm to the forks… they’re well over 100 watts
had it on my Yamaha FZ09 as it was a lane splitting pro
snorkels, venturis, velocity stacks all tune the harmonics of the intake. you can do some math with the speed of sound and the length from the end of the venturi to the intake valve to find the rpm the first harmoc hits. even though it seems like a restriction it increases power at mid to low rpm. the longer the intake the longer it takes for the sound wave to make it back the lower the rpm its tuned for. probs best to keep them, by removing so mutch length you've propbibly pushed the first harmoic up and over the red line and you will never get any bennifit.
those burbley low rpm small block chevys make more power on a high tunnel ram then a low dual plane.
I could not handle the "George Jetson mobile" sound from the stock pipes combined with the whine. I ebayed a used set of Staintune mufflers with the baffles in. Perfect sound! It's a shame Staintune folded.
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I like her quiet but to each his own.
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I'm a proponent of 'loud bikes save lives'. Too many close calls with drivers who neither saw nor heard me.
Same Here!
Pipes make other motorists aware that you are there that is probably life expectancy extending also most bikers do not like an anemic sounding motorcycle some good ear plugs woodcut the noise to the bike rider and still make the bike audible to other motorist. Noise does sometimes get some beneficial attention
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Thank YOU for the GREAT videos. I have a 2003 Honda ST1300 and I would like to put 18" Delkevic mufflers on my bike. My question is, do the mufflers need to be repacked with silencing material after a some years of use. Again thank YOU for the great video with professional quality.
Not in my experience. These mufflers are really quite inexpensive, the cost of a set of tires, if they did get rattling why not just replace them? Again they will last years and years long than a set of tires and your bike would have what, another 100,000 miles on it? Thanks for the feedback & Ride Safe!
@@RodRidesWrenches Thank YOU for your timely reply. I am sold. Oh Yes I have subscribed to your channel.
I kept the stock exhaust on mine as i like to blast music but i also installed a horn from a volvo truck to compensate.
Same except I installed a nautilus air horn I found at harbor freight.
another great video!! thanks! im from montreal and going to pick up a 2000 st1000 tomorrow.where you located in canada?id like to come meet you, and go for a ride!!!
I live and what you see in the videos is the Vancouver area.👍
I am con on the loud pipes at a ST 1300. I only like them on Buells or Honda VTR's for instance. This bike is made to be very comfortabel for the rider. The loud sound would anoy me everytime I would ride or cruise on the bike. Same as putting loud pipes on motorscooters. These aren't race bikes. They are not meant to 'show off' or break lap records on the circuit where every gram or pound (or extra horsepower) counts.
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When measuring sound, use the California legal method, with their distances and angles for the meter.
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Wear ear plugs!!!!!!! Great vid...I have a stock ST but aftermarket exhaust will damage your hearing ...I learned this late ...ringing in the ear and I don't think it's because I got covid a few years ago..will look forward the replacing the exhaust and duplicating your mods 👍
Full face helmets were such a huge transition when I stopped riding HD. Now I get mad when I forget to put in my ear plugs. You gotta keep what you have left! Thanks for the feedback and views👍
Good video. With changes to the tuned length of the inlet, air filter and mufflers how have you remapped the fuel injection to prevent it running lean? Have you put a gas analyser on it?
The ST has a closed loop fuel injection system, in theory you should not have to remap since the O2 Sensor and the ECM are there to figure that out. I also wanted to limit the mods specifically to not use a mapping accessory like a Power Commander. We will see how it goes... Thanks for Watching & Subscribing!
@@RodRidesWrenches have you mad a conclusion to see if it is running lean?
@@rvman722 Bike is running a bit rich and not lean. I will remove the pair block off this year and see if there is more heat.
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You may want to consider reducing the air vs blocking the PV. Once I tried a small plastic cylinder inserted in the pair valve tube. I tried several hole diameters until I got close to 1000 rpm idle when warmed up. But reduces air enough to reduce the popping.
What was your conclusion after removing the pair valve plug. After you sold the ST there was no clarity after the mods , final thought? Plug or not?
Well done and produced video. I was told by my mechanic who has been racing since 1974, that exhaust wrap will make the exhaust brittle and fall apart in the wrap. The pipes are not designed to be that hot constantly. Thoughts? As for removing the velocity stacks, did you get actual gains? Dyno? Changes in low or high rpm operations? There has been a lot of debate on the forums and the general consensus is to leave them.
Regarding header wraps, minor expense to manage heat, headers deteriorate when water is trapped against the pipe, they rust. The exhaust gas is already running 600 -850 plus Fahrenheit so I don't subscribe to the issue of heat damage from the wrap. No dyno numbers but again you can try it for literally no expense other than your time and see what you think. Everything done I find the bike makes more torque, especially under load like riding two up. Thanks for liking & subscribing and a new ST1300 video is coming this Friday!
With the temp that the pipes get to water is a non issue. Also with this model bike the pipes are well protected behind the farings.
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I could get the front wheel of my st1100 off the ground. Until I sent it into a wall. Proud St1300 owner now.
Don’t ride an st1300 yet ( I’m getting one pretty soon ) on regards muffler sound I like to that “ happy middle) had loud pipes before and they they can get annoying on long trips , but I also like to hear my engine is music to me .
You don't know where I live. Uh-oh, one may easily see it in my road video's on CZcams.
I feel like only few motorcycles are spotted early with loud exhausts, mostly only from the rear. Some mastermind, so to say, tried with video to find out if his loud music, on four speakers that he had, could scare deer away from the road. No matter what he did, you just heard the motorcycle coming but the extra noise was noticeable for a second and not alarming.
Cars are well sound insulated and drivers are in an environment of their own, where they often play music or are in conversation.
It wouldn't be a mistake to run lights daytime. Everybody keeps good eyesight. My ST1300 has almost blinding LED headlights and LED taillights. We are not allowed to overtake vehicles on the right side down where I live and I think that matters. It makes it easy staying in both the mirrors and there are not so many cars in front of you. As a result the police in many countries would pull you over when the exhaust is worked on. It is unnecessary to make pipes loud. When you do, don't expect miracles, like "Now I am noticed." Rev. bombing also, never heard of in Europe.
Hello again, may I ask you a few more questions about installing Delkevic 18" slip o mufflers on my 2003 Honda ST 1300 non ABS. I now have the mufflers and would like to install them soon. If I choose just to slip on the mufflers without doing the other mods in the air box. And is the O2 sensor mounted ahead of the muffler so the mufflers just slip on the bike. Again thank you for all your great videos and I have subscribed to your channel.
Yes that's the way just remove the factory cans and install the delkevik ones.Straight forward but use map gas on the clamp bolts prior to loosing them. Without the heat they will break.
So, I started watching your channel because I got an ST, and I watched one of your other videos and liked it, but some of the things you say in this video is way off, those tubes you are removing from the intake have nothing to do with debris and everything to do with tuned intake length. They are designed to increase air velocity by giving a straight steady stream of air flow. When you remove them air tries to come from all different directions and combined with sonic pulses coming back through the TBs causes a lot of turbulence in the intake. As for the AIS, the bike is tuned to have that much oxygen in the exhaust so unless you are installing a 02 eliminator and a power commander or equivalent. Plugging the AIS will cause the bike to run leaner. The last thing is the header wrap, yes it saves you from the heat, but it pushes the heat further back in the exhaust. Keeps the Temps higher further back, if you are running aftermarket exhaust, you probably going to burn out the packing pretty quickly. The engineers actually know what they are doing sometimes.
What size exhaust did you install? I am thinking of going with 17" on my ST. Thank so much!
Here is a link to some delkevic mufflers, I used the 17" Delkevic Exhaust
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what do you think of the BMW R1100RT as a tourer?
I have a '00 VFR800 so have my dose of V4 and horsepower, and looking for a comfortable 2-up miles gobbler and those R1100RT are cheap now and seems bulletproof from what i read compared to newer 1150 or 1200
Yes as I mentioned in the high mileage video, the R1100RT has a very strong motor and yes they are now cheaper than other oilheads in the market. After owning 1st & second gen 1200 oilheads and the 1100, I lean toward the 1100/1150. I have even more data as a continuation to this video which will be out in a couple/few weeks on my channel. Thanks for Liking & Subscribing!
I want to use a st1300 v4 engine in a very light car. I want to remove emissions and add a turbo with better throttle bodies, injectors, and fuel pump. I'm wondering if a port and polish is needed for better breathing? A goldwing can easily make 200 up to 300hp but everyone says the 1300 can't do the same. A k1200 is better then this bigger Honda motor? How much power can this actually make?
I want real motor since it's not in a motorcycle. Any advice?
Hi, great video! I'm looking at a 2006 st1300. Would 70,000 miles be excessive for one of these bikes? Are there pitfalls on the horizon at this mileage? Thanks.
Hello Darren, there are no specific pitfalls with the ST1300 I would say. You need to be careful loading the rear of the bike up and adjusting the preload (more preload to compensate) out back if carrying weight in a tour pack or a passenger. It has never happened to me with three bikes, 2003, 2004, 2008 and some autobahn speeds but others claim to have had tank slapper moments on the ST1300. Keeping the front wheel firmly on the ground will prevent this. There is a whole series of maintenance videos on the channel for the ST1300 as well as other bikes that will cross reference. czcams.com/video/HSejFW3HUwM/video.html I suspect that you will need to do some work on any bike of that vintage and mileage - Good Luck!
Hi , Being an St1300 owner myself I have been following your videos with interest. Would you be able to tell me the exact model of Delkevic mufflers in the video please. There's a few different lengths I've noticed on their website 380mm or 450mm etc. I like the look of the ones you have on the bike. All the best.
No Problem, Delkevic Aftermarket Slip On compatible with Honda ST1300 (2003-2015) with Stubby 13" Stainless Steel Tri-Oval Muffle, SKU: KIT1141
UPC: 843789141935
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Would this like aftermarket muffler work on a 2016 model.
Any idea if that after market muffler will work on a 2016?
@@kevinmortensen7186 if you have a 2016 then yes it is the same bike. The ST1300 did not change.
Loud loud super loud louuuuuddddddd
I have a clutch related question... Mine seems to stay somewhat engaged still even with the lever pulled all the way in and the buke keeps creeping forward. And its worse when its warm. And yes i have rebuilt rebuilt both slave and master cylinders and vacuum bled the system. Do you have any idea what else it could be? My next thougt is to pull the feont crank case cover and look for defects in the clutch plates or hydraulic locking plates...
Hello, and thank you for all these interesting videos. Among the performances increase I am wondering about the air inlet hoses removal. Forums say that they are bound to fine tune the amount of air and balance it between the 4 cylinders and bring more torque at low/mid RPM. Did you have the chance to make your own impression before/after this mod ?
Hello Sylvain, Torque is definitely increased with them removed. If you want to increase the power output of an internal combustion engine, you need to allow it to breathe in and out. I recommend this mod! Thanks for Liking & Subscribing, new video out next Friday! 🤞
thanks for info, I removed cones and wow. I have my fi light come on if bike is not warmed up enough. After lookig at wirring diagram i am thinking of bypassing the temp that turns fan on. One method of clearing fault codes says you must wait until fan cuts in, why. The temperature sensor wirring goes through the ecu, maybe i can bypass it. Lots of testing to do first
Hi David, did the light come on after you removed the airbox intake funnels/snorkels? I think this could be a poor connection at the IAT (top rear of airbox) or a vacuum line. I have had no FI issues. I would check all the sensors, IAT, MAP, TP and replace before messing with the fan.
How many blinks when you turn on the ignition from the FI light?
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@@RodRidesWrenches thanks for feed back. No fi was a problem before i removed cones. I am an electrician and short story i put a switch in FI circuit and a switch in test point as an experement i switched fi off so no feed back to ECU and switched test switch on. So far no fi problems. Going for a 3 day ride soon, i will give you feed back. If what i did stops FI from putting bike in limp mode it will be massive info for st1300 riders
David Barter,,, what exactly did you experience when you removed the cones ?? Wow,,, is not very specific,,, but it implies a huge power increase. Can you confirm this ?? thx.
@@Porsche359 A lot more acceleration and power, I highly recomend it. Try it, you can always put them back
is a power commander gonna be required if i do these basic mods?
Hello Jonah, No you don't need to use a power commander on an open loop FI system for everyday use. Your factory system uses the O2 Sensor to adjust mixture. If you experience a lot of exhaust pop on closing the throttle, the power commander is a nice option to adjust the "Zero Fuel Throttle Close" mapping to allow for some additional fuel when chopping the throttle. But for most riders this is not required to experience additional gains from a pipe & high-flow.
The ST1300 is not the right bike for you I'm afraid. There's no point at all of increasing the power of this wonderful motorcycle over the standard level. It has plenty of it right from the factory. Also the argumentation about louder pipes is a lot of bullsh*t. More and more roads are closed down for motorcycles in order to reduce the overall noise level. Tell me what is better: Riding a silent bike or not being able to ride your bike on nice winding roads at all?
The technical explainations are pretty good and correct. Thank you for that!
So the Honda cannot be made better than it already is? Thanks for your comments and liking & subscribing! The improvement in mid-high RPM pull after the mods are strikingly improved, especially riding two up. Try it, you my find you like it!
Less noise is better for long distance travel
do you think these mods would work on the CTX1300?
of course.
NO BAFFLES!!!
Did it feel any better with the mods
Yes of course, more mid range torque, definite difference passing & with a passenger. Thanks for liking & subscribing!
Yep, quieter is far healthier for riders and the public! That said, put me on a race track with megaphone pipes and Castrol R in the sump of my CB 250 and I am zoned!
Great videos! Who's the heavyset bald dude riding around on your bike?
Not on board with the whole loud pipes thing. Sound radiates away from the rear of the bike, as you've demonstrated. As both a rider and a cager I can attest that I can't hear the stereotypical Harley coming up on me until he's in my blind spot. In that regard (safety) I feel it's a myth, and wrong to perpetuate misinformation to newer riders, giving them a false sense of security.
Changing the stock mufflers to ditch the catalytic converters though, I'm good with that.
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$500 for a little noise, pass!!!!
stock muffler
You'll regret removing the velocity stacks. 360 degree v4 droning make the bike sound like a gutless POS and upsets the flat torque response of the bike and not in a desirable way. I'm an '06 owner who found out first hand
100 mph, wobble...
-tire/wheel damage and/or balance
-steering head bearing
-fork alignment
-suspension preload too soft / fork springs/oil worn
-rear suspension rebound open
-windscreen too high
-damaged fairing
-unlikely but driveshaft true and bearings
Good Luck!
Its a myth about lound pipes being safer .its been proven its not direckinal .they dont know where its coming from .plus there in metal cage
Thanks for the feedback & comment - Agree to disagree based on 30 years of real world riding
Too loud, I like to listen to music and use comms to other bikes
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Louder pipes DEFINITELY gets other drivers attention which equals safer!
Ho-Ly! You must really love yor own voice! Your 20 minute lullaby of a video could have been 3 minutes.
Here is something more your speed czcams.com/video/uN4tnvjgMYw/video.htmlsi=I6EFdur2Rb73ENml
Awesome, most of your mods are illegal and loud pipes are a very poor substitute for riding in a way that makes you more visible. Loud pipes do not let the cars Infront of you know you are approaching because 80%+ of the sound is going behind you. They do however increase your risk of hearing damage.
I hope the climate change nonsense was just a joke!!! FJB
Lost me at climate change