Springfield Saint vs Savage MSR-15 - AR15 Comparison
Vložit
- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- In this video, we will be discussing the differences between the Springfield Saint and the Savage MSR-15 Patrol. This is a tabletop review and NOT a shooting comparison. If you enjoy this video, please like and subscribe. Thanks!
- Sport
I just bought a Savage MSR Recon. Very very satisfied with it as my first AR.
Those things are as accurate as rifles double the price or more. Sub moa with the right ammo and shooter. Almost bought one. I may still buy an upper if I ever find one cheap. I dont like the flip ups or the blackhawk furniture though
I forgot to add this was a great in depth review. Thanks!
This is a good review. Thank you for posting.
Hello! Do you know how to remove the stock on the MSR? I can’t find anything on it. Thank you!
Question: does the Savage Recon have a chrome moly vanadium barrel?
If I wanted to change the hand guard for the Savage MSR to a piccatinny rail system, what kind of rail system is it compatible with? I've noticed in other videos the plate that holds the handguards at the front is not your traditional round holding plates. Thanks
Did you great that Springfield just released a Saint w/ free float barrel. If possible, can you do a comparison video b/w the Springfield Saint Free Float vs. Savage MSR Recon.
I love my Saint Edge
You should compare the Saint Edge and the Saint Edge pistol. The quality is excellent. The triggers are amazing right out of the box.
Wow mine did not come with the blaze trigger. Should I be making a call to Savage?
Good review, I just picked up the Saint with the Free float handguard for $851 shipped. It is one of the best feeling rifles I have shot on this platform. Not to mention you get a real case vs a cardboard box. Nice added touch. I wish my military issue rifle was as nice as the SA Saint.
Where did you get one of those for that price?!
The saint doesn't even come close to a military issued m4 you either never served in the military or are a complete moron... I'm betting a combination of both... So absurd to even compare the 2...
I love that Mounted Deuce shirt!
hey can you guys do a review on the saint with the free float hand guard and the new saint edge? thanks
Purchase 3 different AR15 in the last year. the ruger ar556 and the 2 shown here, the Savage and the Saint. Of the 3, the Saint had the worst trigger and in my opinion shot the worst groups. It was also the most expensive of the 3... So I sold it and now only have the ruger and the savage. Of those 2, the savages is clearly a better weapon, with a better trigger, better sites, better components and a bit more accurate in my hands. The ruger is it cheap backup AR, and works well, plus the cost was low, sub $500, so that's why I kept it.
Is this according to their website? Because I could've sworn the Savage MSR with a free float handguard has 5R whereas this one had your standard 6R, if that's what you call it.
Hey, I don’t know if you you’re going to respond to this after 3 years lol. But I’m tryng to put a free float quad rail on my msr15 patrol model I got last year. But the A2 front sight seems to be fixed. There is a hole in the barrel where the gas back goes. Do you know the savage a2 post is fixed in there? Thanks!
Very good review. Thanks for the info.
I appreciate it - thanks for watching!
Excellent video. Very informative. I'm on the fence b/w the Saint and the MSR Recon. I live in Indy so I would like to stop in your shop, learn a bit more and hopefully make a purchase.
Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching. Yes- please come by any time! Thanks again for watching!
I got the Saint. Nice reliable shooter bcm furniture it’s great
Great reviews
Shot both, own one
hands down saint is the win
Love my Saint! It's my first AR
Does anyone know if it is a 4150 CMV or a 4140 cmv?
Great review. Thanks.
Thought about getting the Saint, but might go with the MSR-15. However, both look like quality purchases!
hulksmash865 I absolutely love the accuracy of Savage rifles! Get yourself a Savage, and take it to a gunsmith & let them change out the stock..
$50
=
www.primaryarms.com/hogue-mil-spec-overmolded-collapsible-buttstock-black-ho15040
I'm so glad I went with the Savage Recon. The upgrade was worth it and I don't have to worry about supporting a bad company.
Nelson LeDoux I too went with the recon for those same reasons. Plus I wanted that 5R rifling and the Wylde chambering. M-lok is nice too.
why have a bayonet lug if the bayonets dont fit correctly? what does springfield say to this?
hi all . thanks for the review . I like the look of the savage looks the jod . easy too use . an too clean . thanks for your time an sharing . ATB Andy
Thanks for watching! The Savage does feel and look very nice
MarksmanTV just a shame we can't have em over here in England . I'm looking in too getting a GSG 1911. Never had one before so that should be fun . Is it ok too share your post on my forum? ? I liked the Ruger psp you did some time ago . Thanks once again . Andy
I noticed you didn’t mention the accu-tight screw on the Springfield. Is that a newer feature? Thats one of Springfields main selling points on the Saint.
Can anyone tell me gas block size for the savage msr15 patrol
Bench racing is fun but dozn't tell us WHAT we want to know. which one puts 3-5 rounds in a tight group at the center of a bulls eye. When the green flag drops the bullshit stops. My money is with the SAVAGE.
Sooo...which one? Great video, subbed. Cool shirt
Another great comparison. Maybe some AR10s next?
BTW, did you design your Marksman title screen, or is that a service that does that?
Thanks! I will hopefully do some AR10's in the future - I don't have any in stock currently, unfortunately. My brother actually did the title screen for me. Thanks again for watching!
Well done. Thanks.
i live about 30 minutes away first ive heard of the shop ill come check it out
Love my saint.
Does anyone know if the saint has the 4150 CMV barrel or 4140? Also the same question for the Savage? Thank you
Fairly certain both are 4140 melonited.
The barrel and chamber sell me on the Savage. The furniture and sights are sub-par, though.
I was looking at those to went w the msr
I bought the Savage MSR patrol 15 a couple weeks ago. I took it out on Saturday and there were several instances where it seemed like multiple rounds were being fired with one trigger squeeze. Could this be something I am doing or is this indicative of a malfunction?
It could be an accidental bump fire, but the circumstances would have to be somewhat coincidental... When you shoot it, keep it tucked firmly in your shoulder and give the trigger a good push and hold it to the rear, not allowing it to reset. If you are not getting a second round fired, then it is likely the firearm is fine. If you are holding the rifle too loosely off your shoulder and allowing your trigger finger to move off the trigger after the shot (this is difficult to explain) the rifle could be bouncing off your shoulder, sending the firearm slightly forward and bumping the trigger on your finger (this would all happen very quickly casuing a bump fire). If, while holding the trigger firmly to the rear after firing, the rifle still sends off several rounds per pull, send it back to the factory or take it to a gunsmith as there is a problem with your disconnector.
Ok, I will try that. I really am hoping it is me and not the rifle because that seems like an easier fix. Thank you!
@@necronorris was it you or the rifle?
@@talonbrown4619 it was the rifle. I had to send it back for warranty repairs. They installed a new trigger. Shoukd have just done my.own upgrade, but it was the principal of the thing. There was another guy on youtube with the same issue as me.
6:47 the finish will help keep the aluminum from rusting??
Yea... alittle bit of a misstep there lol
Is the free floating barrel worth the extra money, for a guy on a budget?
Until you can outshoot the typical precision/accuracy of your chosen carbine, using high-quality ammunition, it probably doesn't pay, on a cost-benefit basis, to get a free-floated barrel. If you are on a budget, and want to shoot more-accurately, concentrate on trying out different types of ammunition and loads from various manufacturers and seeing what your carbine likes best. The quality of ammunition used has a large - very large, in fact - effect on your overall accuracy and results obtained. Obviously, you should also seek out the necessary high-quality instruction to become well-schooled in the fundamentals of accurate shooting. If you are young-enough, and are willing to consider military service, the Marine Corps does a fine job training their recruits to be riflemen.
You never left the link in your description bud haha
whats that red rubber thing on the hand guard?
Savage I use it as a grip
Maciel7
I will stay with my bcm.i love it.
I want both
So which is a better option: Ruger 556 or the Savage MSR?
The Savage.
But the Saint is #1
i have the ruger 556, saint free float, and saint victor. the saints are made with quality in mind. with that being said the ruger is an excellent rife as well. the ruger is less expensive, cold hammer forged barrel, crappy trigger but you get the ruger lifetime warenty. Ruger has a carbine length gas system where as the saint has mid length system. both ruger and saint variants are excellent shooters and either one can be modified over time. buy one or both you won't be disappointed.
Yeah I don't care about where the rifle peeps stand, The rifle is freaking bad ass... I love the rifle and I live in Arizona a true gun state
I have the saint and I love it but the upper and lower don't line up worth a crap. Not really that big an issue but I have OCD and it bothers me. I added a 15" ffr and dual charging handle from bcm. Overall for the price it is an unbelievable deal. But the savage recon I would really like to get. Looks very nice. Even though it has a 4140 barrel. But not that big a deal.
You can adjust that fit...
thank you
I love my Springfield saint.
You get what you pay for. Quality is my only concern. It has to perform time and time again flawlessly. Saint Edge delivers this for me.
Get the savage sub moa with 223 ball ammo, not so accurate with 556 though.
Why is that? Does it have something to do with the twist rate of the barrel?
Back when there were guns for sale.
$800? I'm glad I got my Savage Patrol for $512+free shipping+$50 transfer, so $562 :-D
Seriously, just shop around online and you will get some amazing prices... Sportsman Outdoor Suuperstore has great prices!
They have this little Ruger AR 5.56 in FDE for $549! The M&P 15 for $499, and then the Patrol for like $600, and the Recon for like $100 more! Check it out... You won't be sorry :-)
Justin Todd hey man need a second opinion the best I found price wise is 620 after tax and all. What you think?
I just bought a Savage Recon for $599 before tax!
thefatjunior1017 I'd jump at $620 because you'll never see it for $500, again... The stock sucls, so buy something like this and take it to your gun smith... I think, this was the exact one I bought: www.primaryarms.com/hogue-mil-spec-overmolded-collapsible-buttstock-black-ho15040
Sorry for the late reply, but I never got notified... Good luck, Buddy!
Iflew727 Damn... The only thing I didn't like was the 13" forrnd, so I got the patrol & put on my own 9" forend.
I want that savage msr 15 or msr 10
so they recalled all of the lemons and gave every one back a new rifle
Build one
But side beautiful excellent!!!
But side beautiful awesome!!
My saint came in a soft carry bag 🤔
Same for me. Cannot decide if I should be upset by that!
Mine did too!!! Like you idk if I should be upset although the soft bag is not to bad either oh well LOVE LOVE LOVE MY SAINT!!!
So did mine, I also got the saint model w the B5 furniture. I'd rather the soft bag tbh. I think they only did the hard case in the first year or so of them.
Call me Petty but I gave it a thumbs down because you didn’t tell me which one you would choose
Where did you get the idea that he’d be saying which one he prefers? That was never mentioned in the title or the video. No reason to think that all.
Aluminum doesn't rust. Just sayin
Doug Castetter no carbon steel rusts. Aluminum corrodes. Both need to be protected . Just saying
Hey dude if you want to do a fair review do a even price point at least . This Savage MSR Patrol is around 599.00 and some change . Compare the Savage MSR Recon to the Springfield Saint that would be a fair review and the Savage MSR Recon will shoot rings around the Springfield . If you compare the Saint to the Recon for the same money you get way more gun with the recon .
You should study how to properly use the word "does".
the saint wins on the case alone
Amir Kazemi
They did away with case a long time ago. Now you get a soft bag... I got mine almost 2 years ago and was bummed when it came with the bag
SA SAINT all day!!!
Joshua Reyes
Dipshit
Rus ridge shut up!
Bought my saint for 950
sorry id go with the saint! lol both guns are nice but the saint is a bit nicer! lol
Michael W. Urban Sr. S.A. is a SELLOUT company!
How is SA a sell out?
Don't go with saint garbage
savage wins by default.....SA IS A SELL OUT
Savage is junk. And good luck getting parts when it breaks, and it's going to break.
For the price of these bottom tier AR's, you are much better off spending $100 more and getting a Colt.
Are you really comparing a Springfield saint to a garbage salvage savage lmao this is no comparison it's like comparing a dirt bike to a Mercedes. Lmfaaoo what a joke video
ali nahli Similar pricing and features. It’s obviously a solid comparison. Chill with the personal bias.