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- Here is why I use PMMA Acrylic Tubing and why you should too! (NOT SPONSORED!)
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Can we all take a moment and applaud that Gycol edit? That was fantastic.
That edit is up there with the i fix it ad hahahaha epic job
yes.
I was lmao
what was the music used there?
Ain't the whole video an edit 🤔
“Today we’re going to talk about my tube and how I like to use it…” Jay 2023
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Lol
There was no inuendo in this intro, with the thumbnail and all he makes...
He likes to flex it and grind it out with a bit, seemingly....
The shock at the shatter resistance was probably a better advertisement for Corsair's tubing than they could ever have paid for.
I think for a chemist it's less confusing that the general term "acrylic" stands for a dozen different recipes and compositions with differing properties; they're the ones who come up with those recipes! Btw, it's the same with many other plastics. The name only really tells you the main ingredient. Additives and their amounts can vary greatly.
I'm just glad they stopped using plastic and rubber as descriptors.
@@timlaunyc now we just have "synthetic" instead :D
It does get a lot less confusing the more you know about it but admittedly that kind of in-depth knowledge is mostly irrelevant to everyday joe.
Seeing things get overgeneralized or mislabled, or whatever can be anywhere from annoying to funny depending on context but throwing around even more acronyms for people to juggle would probably get even more confusing really quickly, not to say make mixups even more of a problem.
Besides, I think Jay did a decent job of touching on the core of that topic, as far as normal people are concerned.
@@ShermSpinner Oh he did for sure!
I wonder... PVC tubes?
I did an 7900X3D upgrade and used the frosted Corsair PMMA tubing for it and loved it. There were PETG tubes in there till then (did it in october as my first custom build) and i liked working with PMMA a lot more tbh.
7900X3D how is it bro? Whats your idle temp?
What tubing our you calling Frosted pmma tubing our you calling the satin transparent Frosted.
@@chevy7912 I used the Corsair Hydro X Series XT Hardline Tube Satin 14mm to be exact.
@@dobbi6083 Thanks for answering thought I was misreading something on corsairs website I appreciate the answer back.
Should have just bit the bullet and went for the 7950x3d at that point lmao.
As someone who had no idea about this even existing until now, thank you Jay. Now I know the differences, not only in theory but in practice, and i will be using pmma in my own builds.
I liked the part where Jay suddenly whipped out his big tube. Astonishing.
Was thinking about doing a custom loop in the future. And one of the questions I found myself asking was what's the difference between the type of tubes. Thanks Jay for the video
Thank you for posting a video like this. Not only is it informative but also entertaining. I appreciate that you are still humble and make videos that take the time to explain, both you and Steve go out of your way to keep things simple.
These past few videos have been a lot of fun to watch. I am glad you are doing more build and custom PC videos!
I only use PMMA tubes. I'm not using cheap soft plastic tubes(PTEG) in a expensive high end PC. I've found that PETG being easier than Acrylic to work with overblown. Just use the right tools for the materials your using. A good heat gun with precise heat settings makes PMMA heating and bending far easier.
Cool! I think I know what I'm doing for my next hardline build. Used PETG for my first one. Second is definitely going to be PMMA, I need those tight bends
The g in petg means glycol modified pet. PET no g is what plastic drink bottles are made of.
The glass transition temp and melting temp are NOT the same. They are often close, but some materials have a gt well below their melting point.
Thanks for the video, it gave me a confidence boost to actually want to finish the custom loop that I've been putting off for months
Thank you so much for this video!! Answered some questions I was going over, while trying do my first water cool build. Frickin 30 years, all I have done is air cooled.
Jay you guys been killin it lately with the entertaining videos! Keep ‘em coming
I was just watching the video and saw you do the cut on the acrylic tube. While cutting by hand is fine, it is soooo much easier if you have a chop-saw with a plastic cutting blade on it. The plastic cutting blade makes great cuts on acrylic, and you don't have to go through the trouble of cutting by hand and having your cut be super slanted. That is how I made my build with acrylic tubes and it made things WAY easier.
A table saw works pretty good too.
Yeah, I got Alphacool's frosted PMMA in 10mm/13mm. This was definitely a nice watch. My last build was with PETG. Gonna have to work on those bends a bit now that I know what I was doing wrong.
due to your channel, i built my first pc. really mild sleeper out of an old gateway case. never built or loaded anything before but your information/content guided me through it. now i think i will start a major build. I thank you for instructing an idiot like me to accomplish what i set out to do.
Since I started custom watercooling, I've always used soft tubing because that was the fittings I bought and new fittings are expensive, but if I ever switch to hardline, I will 100% be using PMMA hard tubes.
Yea I use soft as well. I LOVE epdm. Shits amazing.
I work at a plastic speciality manufacturing company. You can use heated power strips to control where you on the tube you want heat depending on the material what kind of bind.
Glad you shared this about PMMA, didn't know it existed. I've used PETG and Acrylic in builds, the Acrylic looks so much better and holds up very well over time. Acrylic is brittle and just takes a little more patience when bending.
finished my 2nd hardline loop with the pmma tube corsair kit, even though i never used petg, pmma definitely seems worth it. you can get really nice bends, more rigid for nice straight runs, looks more glasslike and won't discolor as easy too.
Yo, I have watched this video half a dozen times. I have been planing another Watercooled EK build, This video has had has helped me remember to switch back to PETG 5 times. Thank you to the JTC team for all of their hard work.
Man Jay! You really gave yourself a scar on your frustrating personal computer build. I hope you heal well. Thanks for your sacrifice for all of us nerds.
Hey Jay.
Thanks to your videos, I went out and bought a Z790 board and i7 13700K today.
I'll be building my first computer this weekend, wish me luck.
Thank you Jay and the jayztwocents team
One thing that is worth mentioning that I found after bending all of my own tubes, were the pre-bent sets from EK (I'm sure others make it too). But the pre-bent stuff took so much work out of it, and for the price about 90 bucks gave me more than enough to do my loop with a few to spare.
Yeah, those are just the best. They cost a bit, but if you are doing custom loop you are already forking out tons of money. You get really good bends, and you most likely don't even need heat gun.
Agreed, but for a lot of us folks, that takes out the fun of it. Marveling at your bends and runs is a great feeling.
@@PowerPunch360 Oh, 100%. I spent 3 days doing my bends the first time. I was proud as hell, but at the same time, once was enough lol
@@mukkaar yeah, if you're doing your own loop and you know you just need 90s then those kits may save you a few bucks with not needing to buy a heat gun.
@@gamedevcarto Yeah, I agree. Going metal tubing for my Ryzen 7000 build and I ain't qualified to bend those, so just going to buy pre-bent lol
My first run of Corsair PMMA tubes scattered super easily. I was a bit frustrated. This was years ago. Happy to see the quality has improved.
Glad to see we all make the same mistakes. Once a tube gets folds like the back of the knee sucks. Love these kinds of videos.
Thanks Jay, was researching this yesterday and this video summed it all up
I would watch "Better Call Gycol" the intro alone sold me.
Through the keyboard hobby, I learned similar things about PETG and acrylic plates (what the switches ultimately clip into to hold them in place). Obviously, a keyboard plate has no thermal constraints unless something's wrong, but the flexible and durable nature of PETG gives it a very soft bottom-out switch feel. In contrast, acrylic is known to be very rigid and brittle, so it'll give a more solid bottom-out feel but you also run the risk of developing cracks without proper support.
That impact resistance test will prove very helpful as I build my water-cooled baseball bat.
I really appreciate the breakdown of the tubing materials, thanks boys
Watching Jay struggle to figure out why nothing ever works as intended on video is magical. "Watch this bend.... .... .... .... Okay then."
All your videos are very helpful and entertaining Jay. Thanks a lot 🙏🙏😍
Did my first custom cooling with Corsairs frosted PMMA and achieved a lot of bends including double S bends. So the material held up with my lack of experience. Good tubing saves you money with fittings also if you can manage to do it right. The only problem with the frosted texture is that you can get visible scratches on it if you are not careful.
Really wish this video would have come out like 6 months ago, It would have saved me so much time figuring out what I wanted on my loop
Phil, this is HANDS DOWN the best edit you have ever done on a video. You had me crying the first Snickers shot!
And this is why I watch your channel, bending tubes and fear of leaks spooks me because of the money involved. Thank you Jay!
I think I might just buy a low medium tier components to build pc and learn hard tubing .
@@0Blueaura TBH that's a pretty good way to go. Components so hot now you have to custom loop, then you can go all out in the future.
MASSIVELY informative Jay! I am actually about to endeavor on my first ever custom loop build! Thanks for the info dude!
Just finished a PETG build for my youngest and having watched your video I ordered 6m of Corsair frosted 10/14 plus the Primochill drill bit. Waiting for delivery here in the UK - plus waiting on the EK 4090 water block for Zotac Trinity OC.
That was a super informative video. Thanks for clearing all that up
That Better Call Gycol bit had me on the floor laughing
Bang on vid, Jay. Never a wasted/pointless video from you so never need to apologise for a vid, there's ALWAYS info for someone in every video.
Great video! I'm planning to use the Corsair Satin Black PMMA tubes in my build later this year. Great to see a video comparing different tube materials!
I love watching you break stuff. Just as fun when you do it intentionally!
Great Video as always. I am going to tube my system once i have all the parts. Your video has convinced me to go with PMMA. It is well worth the time it takes to do this and the end result looks amazing. Cheers Jay
As iam going to do my first water loop here in the u.k, your channel has been invaluable to me. Keep up the good work.
ive learned a lot from this. i actually feel more confident to try a making my own water cooled system.
Lol that opening had all the hardware ladies ready 🤣
Phil deserves a raise
I think my favorite videos are when Jay talks about all the different whys in terms of watercooling.
Wow. Definitely moving to PMMA on my next loop. Thanks Jay.
Thanks Jay, always great info.
I just love these types of intros!
For my build, I wanted to go with frosted tubing, but I had the 14mm fittings from EK...and there were few options at all for that size aside from Corsair. And I also just happened to have the Primochill drill bit...so imagine my surprise when I started trimming it down like you do with PETG and hear it sound like it is just fracturing and cracking all over the place, and then shatter on the end. So....I pulled out my fine tooth dovetail saw that I use for woodworking and gut it that way, THEN lightly used the drill bit.....
EXCELLENT results at that point.
Cool video jay! love the durability tests of the tubing :D
Watching Jay snack acrylic tunes like a man child, so soothing!
Informative jet super fun to know, Thanks Jay (and team) !
I'm glad you updated the recommendation on tubing.
I currently have PETG in my system, but tend to be worried about the temperatures.
I'm limiting the temperature to 38-39 C (0.7 overshoot on the PID control), but for some reason still a little concerned.
I've been water cooling for a while and since Hydro X PMMA came out, it is all I use honestly, I like that I can take my time with it and not be in a rush like other tubing, if your new to this then get this tubing and it will be a lot more forgiving then others, it might ne a few bucks more but again worth it when u do not need to order more.
glad i ran across this vid. i know what ima be using now. plan on going with a custom loop to try and solve a thermal issue.
Wow, it’s like you knew I was waiting on water cooling parts. Thanks for doing a video!
Actually loved this video thank you for the detail!
I am not interested in water cooling, well, not doing it myself anyway. I am MOST impressed at how many jokes about tubes and veins you got into this video! The perfect amount and super informative. Just 'cause I am not going to do it, doesn't mean it isn't worth knowing!
Thanks for making this video. I wouldn't do a custom piping and watercool build because I don't trust my own build quality around electronics let alone not having the right tools, but still an interesting watch to learn that there are different tube types. I'm someone who would slap in an arctic liquid freezer 420mm and call it a day haha, though frosted tubing with blue coolant in a white case/gpu shroud style would look pretty sick.
That person is exactly me. Thanks for the tip. Gonna go PMMA now
That little orange saw is so KYOOT!
I am about to make my first custom loop I have been watching your old videos as well... Thanks, Jay...
thanks Jay and team!
Holy crap nice job woth the editing phil 👏
I’m so happy u made this. It looks so good. I’m thinking of doing a new build in the Corsair 1000D and doing a double loop. I think I’ll do the pmma tubing but idk if I wanna do transparent or do satin. Cause I’d like the kinda opaque look without needing to do the maintenance required.
Very helpful! Thanks for sharing! Also - entertaining as always
Very interesting and informative video, Jay and team!
I'm not knowledgeable about custom water cooling at all but I definitely want to know about some I can someday build my own custom water cooled pc
Hey, love the dad with glasses vibe this video gives 😅
Nice opening lol 😂
I got that cutting guide in the Corsair water cooling kit. And had the same problem with it where my tubes cut at an angle.
Next build will use PEGT tubes.
I'm finding that some sandpaper does a good job of evening out the cut so it's straight. I use it and then the deburr tool and the ends come out great
The glasses suit you jay, looking good and healthy. Good video.
17:54 well i dont care about watercooling at all but this was still interesting for me ;D i like the way how you just show what you are talking about instead of just say it "and now believe me" and you just say it clear why you use something .. or not .. but at the same time you never blame someone for doing it different thats a big reason for me why i always love your videos like this showing any difference in some kind of products
thanks Jay, this was helpfull. I be trying PMMA next time aldo my pteg is holding up pretty well over the years.
Thanks Jay!! My first order of pmma just arrived an hour ago. I'm building a dual loop with the ek blocks you are using on your new build, considering making a twitter just to show you the end product.
LOVE that better call Gycol insert
I've always used traditional "acrylic" and just put up with it's limitations in return for the perfect glassy appearance. (Just used a lot of patience and a gentle touch) I'm certainly going to give PMMA a try. Thanks for a very informative video! Better call giecol!
That was fantastic. Thank you!
Used corsair tubing in my build I do love it!!!
Good overview of the different tube attributes. Thanks
PETG has a chance to deform at 40C and can cause leaks inside the fittings. (EK has special inserts for this problem). Since im running a SFF loop i definitely went for the more heat resistant acrylic tubing. It also looks more clear
that was awesome. I'm looking at the corsair case with the distro/pump combo at some point in the future and things like this help me to know which tubes to get.
I really enjoy these info vids on watercooling stuff, did my first custom loop with 14mm acrylic from EK, I also got the JTC block which looks great. I was considering corsairs pmma frosted tubes but dont want to deal with ICUE
THANK YOU FOR THIS! 🙌
I was getting into the blues rift.....! Great job editing!
The “finishing” tool 6:50 that you are referring too is a Chamfer/Deburring Tool.
Phil, you're the best!
10/10 for the BCS edit. Excellent.
I’ve used Corsair clear and frosted and I feel that the frosted is harder and takes more heat then the clear. But I will only use Corsair tubing from now on.
Thanks, this is a really good video guide.
Jay I did not think about it until you mentioned it
That's a good advertisement for Corsair's tubes. I've made my own frosted PETG tubes but considered changing to acrylic or pmma, so maybe I just get Corsair's frosted ones and give it a try.
The better call Saul reference was legendary