How to tile over tile in a shower floor?

in this episode I explained how to tile over tile in a shower floor. everything is explained and it is very easy to follow.
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Host: Mostafa Samadi [e-mail]
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[@Irh681]

What a fantastic tutorial ❤ you covered and troubleshooted so many different issues that so many DIYers encounter along the way. THANK YOU!!!

[@renovationschool8818]

You're most welcome. Thanks for watching 🙏

[@brendachurch3149]

Just followed this tutorial and my shower floor came out beautiful. Thank you so much for the excellent step by step instructions. I followed them to a tee, silicone next then job is complete. 😊

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@hwangysj]

best tile on tile tutorial video I've seen on youtube!

[@hwangysj]

@@wasntme7845 was comparing to other vlogs from Tile coach and Sal

[@Patrick-888]

Besthowto video I have ever seen. I joined RealityRenovision and Jeff couldnt even explain in simple terms or create a how to video like this. Perfect step by step and details

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊
My goal is to help out home owners and all the do it your selfers. Im very glad that my video are helpful to many people like you . Thanks again for the support.

[@georgemakary5127]

Tje music is great amd this man is a greatest teacher.

[@pamelabernier720]

Thank you very much! Watched 3 times to make sure I followed steps

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for the comment, please subscribe for more easy DIY renovation videos , we lave lots of new and cool videos coming.

[@LockNLoad777]

Great video! Just the information I been looking for! Thanks!

[@jackorth4619]

Great job, I know they sell a kit for raising your drain for $6 or $7, but it’s so exact and your drain opening must be exactly 3 3/8” center to center for the screws to align. Your way of cutting PVC outside the screw holes is much simpler and the idea of cutting the new PVC drain is brilliant. 😊 Thank You.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@user-ou3jw5my2y]

Excellent very detailed tutorial. I am definitely going to be doing this! Thank You!

[@mehisam5006]

Thank you for this! 💪🏻❤️

[@sabrinaaszkler7158]

You are meticulous. Thank you. I learned alot

[@renovationschool8818]

Thank you kindly , welcome to my channel. please subscribe for more tips and easy renovation videos and ideas.

[@johnbambo3686]

Great tutorial, but please remove that annoying music

[@daleronsin4756]

Great video. Excellent dialogue and explanations! Thanks

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks a lot for watching

[@miguelozorio3658]

Really interesting way to renovate!!

[@vincelebron7092]

Wow 👌 you are so detailed I can see you take pride in your work great job

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the kind words 😊

[@humayagubi3867]

mashallah good job 🧿👏👍

[@birdlover5593]

Wonderful video!!!

[@alimirebrahimi9244]

thank you it was very helpful

[@hsyedasif1]

Amazing job

[@charlescamen5225]

hi a very informative video.
When finishing off the corners with silicone, I would suggest first tooling off the silicone with your finger first, then spraying it with water, followed by a spray of soapy water and then another tooling off with your fingers.
If you spray the silicone before tooling it off, you prevent the silicone sticking to the tiles on the feather edges of the bead and mould will establish in these areas.
cheers

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for the tip 😊 and thanks for watching.

[@danstiles6541]

Excellent tutorial. My shower turned out great. !😊

[@renovationschool8818]

I couldn't be happier 😊
Thanks for the support and watching

[@stanleygavin9903]

Very well done! Thanks for sharing.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks alot for watching.

[@alejandro1924]

Great detailed, on point. You are a skilled compa, saludos.

[@cliffcarr2027]

Your video was very informative and well presented, thank you

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the kind words 🙂

[@70banksia]

You Sir are an artiste! Beautiful job perfectly explained. Thank you.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊🙏

[@rzrbob8205]

Great video and exactly what I needed for my future tile project.

[@renovationschool8818]

Im glad it was a help. thanks for watching.

[@JoseMaldonado784]

excellent video for my shower floor tile project, thank you well made.

[@renovationschool8818]

@@JoseMaldonado784 thanks for watching

[@rogerbritus9378]

This is an excellent video, possibly the best on this subject (I haven't watched them all...) and I send the link to everybody who asks me about tiling over tile in the shower. Even homeowners who won't do the work need to know how to do it to demand the best result from the installers they hire.
This was a superb job in all details, which unfortunately required many work interruptions and return trips that most professional installers would try to avoid by cutting corners to make more money. The results of this job depend largely on the detailed work that only a knowledgeable and careful installer can deliver **IF** they are paid enough for the time invested.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the nice words ☺️. Welcome to the channel.

[@chucklakeridge7944]

Great job! Great video presentation! Great Shower!

[@renovationschool8818]

thanks for watching Chuck
Welcome to my channel 🙂

[@VINDICATED806]

Nice video ,gonna try this ,thanks❤

[@haroldsingh7713]

Great job Sir🎉😊

[@meenasharma8514]

Very helpful thanks

[@aristarcomateo6055]

Excellent, this is the video that I was looking, thanks.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@kldamdka2933]

Super great work tums up.

[@robbieklein6162]

Nice. This simple process is exactly what I needed, and I never would have thought to do this

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks
Welcome to the channel 😊

[@DavidFung454]

Good presentation

[@ragaraga9399]

Jolly jolly good job mate!.. looks wonderful thank you for sharing details of your work.. Cheers!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@pacificodeluta7507]

Good job sir

[@TC-ju5bh]

Great job!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching

[@williamjohnson1126]

Great video!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@einsteindrieu]

Thank you nice work !!! 👽👽🛸🛸👽👽👍👍

[@llroman7823]

Why not have a "Thanks" button for tips? Great job. Video helped me know I can't do this as my shower pan is leaking. Thanks for letting me know!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks to you for watching 🙂 I have a new video coming for doing the easiest shower transformation please subscribe.

[@franb5964]

Thank you for you step by step instructions! I was trying to figure out a way to do this. Your instructions are easy to follow. Thanks for sharing!😊

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks a million for watching and also the nice words 🙂 welcome to the channel

[@docshielddocshield1910]

very precisè demo.thankyou.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@CUBANACAN64]

Thank you very much.. Your video is very useful..

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 😊

[@charlesomarbrock1234]

Awesome job

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@derekh5340]

Thank you great video

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching

[@sanacion7063]

Thanks for your help you save my life for be exact on the drain part

[@renovationschool8818]

Youre most welcome
im glad it was a help 😊

[@sanacion7063]

@@renovationschool8818 just quickly question is a little confuse so I have to cut and glue the first part than I have to cut the second one exactly like your video or is the pipe or the same drain??

[@renovationschool8818]

Please watch the video again
its very well explained ,just pay extra attention, im sure youll get it this time, i explained it very well 😉

[@Chicago_Clout]

Good vid

[@derekh5340]

Awesome thank you so much

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching. 🙂

[@user-ug6hn6rg9x]

Please more and more detailed videos,I know with thi your videos I don't need to be taught by anyone else.

[@NilsAndriessen]

very nice. music can be softer indeed but good instructional video. thanks.

[@user-vw6xu6kl6p]

Good work well done

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@mikenn9132]

Job Well Done.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@dennislerra7056]

This is one of, if not THE BEST, MOST COMPLETE, DIY video I have ever seen. Most videos skip some steps which the author feels is probably common knowledge. You left nothing out! Great job! My shower is on a concrete slab floor so I'm not as worried about leakage, but still plan to follow every step shown here. Thank you! :-)

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the comment 🙏❤️
Welcome to the channel 🙂

[@deb9806]

Nice job..we haven't used our shower stall because of small leak and grout being old. I would love to tile over it instead of digging it up. This looks very nice

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂
If you have a leak and you can see it, it's best to dig it up and fix the issue.

[@cruisingal2]

Nice job. I used the Mapei stuff also and the large tiles adhered nicely over old tile. I probably should have gave it 2 coats. And if you miss a place, go back and fill it in, because if you don't, you will pay the price, as the top tile will NOT adhere.

[@allsearpw3829]

Hi, nice work .

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the comment 🙂

[@gerrycosme6034]

by the way thank you very much for your demo sir, i have an idea to change my tiles on the bathroom flooring

[@renovationschool8818]

thanks for watching :)

[@lyndacarlson2371]

So beautiful! wish I could get you to do mine!!!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for the kind words lynda 🙂
we are based in Windsor Ontario Canada. if you are here also i can help you out.

[@charleswalker321]

Nice!

[@renovationschool8818]

Thank you 😊

[@rolandkeith5322]

very cool

[@Johnnyj775]

Nice

[@enidsmith]

Nice Job I am a new learner 😊

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and welcome to the channel : ☺️

[@kudakwashezingawo8987]

Good job

[@renovationschool8818]

thank you 🙂

[@traderfjp]

Fantastic video. Your instructions were clear and detailed. I appreciate the effort. I am going to pull out the walls in my shower but tile over my floor since it doesn't leak. Surprisingly I picked out the same exact tile from Lowes. Can you tell me what color grout you used. It looks perfect with the natural stone. Also, is it over kill to paint on a membrane like Redguard and if I did go that route would you suggest to put the primer over the Redguard? Thanks

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂 I don't remember the grout colour but I'm sure I showed it in the video you may be able to see what brand and colour it was if you watch the video one more time. just use any sanded grout that matches the colour of the tiles ( stay away from premixed grout they suck so much)
As far as applying redguard on the old tiles it depends, if your tile has a rough texture it should work, but if the floor tiles are shiny and big redguard will not stick as well as this primer. this primer adheres very well to tiles even if they're shiny. if the shower floor doesn't leak I suggest using the primer overall. If you want to use the redguard id say to apply this primer first and then apply the redguard on top if you want to. The primer is used for bonding the materials.
All the best 👍

[@frankparisi2433]

I've been doing a lot of research. I have the same drain as yours. Do I have to worry about weep holes not being in the drain? I have a sloped shower floor that drains to the middle but not sure if they used a motor bed? My plan was to sand, apply the tile primer, then a coat of Red Gard, and then install Kerdi membrane and a Kerdi curb to make sure the floor doesn't leak. I do have a small leak on the outside of the present curb which is probably wood and not sealed properly. Any thoughts?

[@renovationschool8818]

I think you already know what to do 👌😉

[@IanHigginson]

Yip the music no bro, your very good at prepping 👍

[@fredr.5723]

Great information
I have the complete opposite
Meritorious cove the pebble tile with flat tile.
Original Slope is off. Leaves stand water.
How can I use your method and add a slight slope for drainage
Hope you can respond.
It’s been 6 yrs. Everyone wants a complete tear out.
One video and I subscribed!!!!
Thank you in advance
God bless!

[@user-ug6hn6rg9x]

I like your videos,I want to be a tiller.

[@kelbaez]

This is an amazing video with all the steps needed. I do have a question, have you ever done a job and then figured that the grout color didn't look good with the tiles or bathroom? What would you do then?

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching
No I have not
I would remove the grout and re do it
There are ways to redo the grout
Thanks to CZcams you can get lots of ideas

[@teeandy100]

Great like greater cake

[@cody8772]

The shoes off and in the socks is the most accurate thing I’ve ever seen in a tile video on CZcams video lmao.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching , im glad you had fun watching it 🙂😂

[@marycheslo4694]

Excellent and thorough video! Thank you! How would you recommend tiling over a shower floor that is river rock, which obviously isn't a totally smooth surface like you have shown in your video?

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching and the kind words.
if u dont have any water and leaking issues , I would suggest washing the tiles super clean first and then when its bone dry, clean it with alcohol. Then apply the primmer that i used in the video. when primmer is dried up use modiffied thin set (that i showed in the video) and skim coat over the rock tiles till its smooth, making sure its slopped properly so when u tile over it the water goes to the drain. allow to dry up for a full day and then tile over it the same way i explained.
basically build a layer of modified thinset on top of the rock tiles after the primmer is dried up and make sure its slopped properly before tilling over it.

[@averymay7274]

@@renovationschool8818 Can I use modified thin set to improve the angle of drainage? My shower does not leak but water pools in one area away from the drain.

[@renovationschool8818]

@@averymay7274 after priming and following the steps that you saw on this video yes

[@maggiewang5887]

Hi,I'm looking for guidance on how to properly level current shower floor to prevent water from pooling in the corners for beginner
Thank you

[@paulmay9000]

Great video. I plan to also do the walls any suggestions and which should be first? Thanks

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching
Professionals always do the walls first. Be aware if u do the floors first establishing the first row on the bottom of the walls will be difficult for DIY guys because u need to get perfect grout lines. Since shower floors are sloped you need to cut the bottom of every wall tile according to the slope ( only the bottom row will be hard to do) but let's say if you are not very skilled with tile work you can do the walls first and hide the bottom row cut imperfections with the floor tiles.

[@ivanrojas9194]

Thanks for your video its excellent by far. I have a quick question; Can I install mosaic over the shower wall ceramic tiles in the same way you installed the floor?
Thanks again.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching , yes you can do that 100 percent 🙂

[@tommack2832]

I always lightly grind the tile first. Gives you a much better surface to bond to.

[@renovationschool8818]

the black stone was rough and i used the primmer on it.
using a grinder for shinny stone tiles is a great idea 👍

[@BecauseIamHere]

I've alway grind them too. I wonder if that's still needed if I use this primer

[@cocotookie3069]

Thank you for this! Quick question - If the tile type is not that where it is sealed, will water seep through and create a mold issue in between layers?

[@renovationschool8818]

hi, thanks for watching
if ur tile is porcellen you must seal the grout only. its very important to seal the grout so it dosent get dirty and also not allow the water to go bellow the tiles.

[@laurenroy6583]

Your video is very well explained. How did you cut the small stones around the edges?

[@renovationschool8818]

Hi
thanks for watching
i use a tile nippers to cut them. the tile nipper does and amazing job , if the edges are sharp u can use a fine file and file it down and you are good to go.

[@StarrTile]

@@renovationschool8818
Just a little Pro tip, you can cut those mosaic in the package through your wet saw to get a straight edge on the perimeter all the way around...
It sure beats cutting little pieces to fill the gaps ✔

[@michnoeldiy2722]

Can I have a Full description of your things you are using etc

[@ronniejack1795]

Thanks for the very informative video, one quick question, can it be done with 2nd floor shower? not sure if the added weight is substantial enough to be a concerned, but I just thought I check if there is any extra steps for 2nd floor shower floor. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thx

[@renovationschool8818]

Hi
this video was done in the second floor already. there is not much weight added . its 100 percent safe to do it anywhere in the house.

[@silentodhk]

Great job! I have a quick question, I have these stone tiles right now(the one you installed), can I do a tile over them? I want to get mono color square tiles.

[@renovationschool8818]

Hello
Yes . If you do the prep work exactly like what I did here for sure it will work out.

[@cinepost]

Geez, having to knife out all that thinset before grouting seems like such a pain.....but it turned out great!

[@ADudeNamedAl]

Cool video...the music though...

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching 🙂

[@konniclayton7879]

Great video! Am going to try it! Question: do you have suggestion for painting a shower that is tiled? The walls?

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching, I highly suggest not to use any kind of paint on shower tiles.

[@henryfalgout53]

Tough as tile paint can be used. It's a very good product

[@renovationschool8818]

@@henryfalgout53 it has lots of fume, it dosen't go on very even.

[@chuckhindelang8848]

Great video. Did you sand the existing tile first?

[@renovationschool8818]

The tiles were rough so I just cleaned them with alcohol (if you watch it again you will see it)

[@jpachon100]

Great job
Working in my bathroom
What did you use to put tile on tile. A primer?

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching
I showed every product that I used in the camera so you can watch this video again and see what exactly it was used

[@dadidoalex12]

Question! I have a shower ledge that has cracked tiles that have some water damage and mold should I tear down the shower ledge or do you think it’s safe to tile over if I make sure it’s clean ?

[@renovationschool8818]

Hi
no, do not tile over that moldy tiles , dont waste your money , tear it down , start over and make it right. I have tons of new videos coming very soon. i also have 3 new shower and bathroom renovation videos that are under edit as of right now. please subscribe to the channel so u dont miss those videos.

[@ranaaqeel2684]

Great 😃

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching

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[@TimeAfterTym]

Hi,
This looked great. My only question is how did you fill the area right around the drain? There was rock missing and then it was there.

[@renovationschool8818]

hi
I removed a few stones from a sheet of tile and then placed some around the drain and also at the very end part where the shower curb is
because these tiles have different sizes of rocks in them it made it easy and simple. i just placed whatever that fit perfect in that area.

[@stanleyfountain6537]

That's looks really good job could you do my place I'm a big fan of your page 😊

[@mcb89able]

Great video! I have a shower tile floor that has a low corner where water pools. Probably 1/4" drop in a foot, but in the wrong direction. How thick can you lay thinset like this? Enough to be able to correct that slope, or does the whole mudbed have to be redone at that point?

[@jaimerocha2974]

I have this same issue now. I came here with this question.

[@renovationschool8818]

Hello, thanks for watching
You can use the 10 sets and correct the slope first
Allow it to fully cure and then the next day tile over it

[@jaimerocha2974]

Wow fast reply! Thank you so much! Also, the original shirt drain is one of those long, rectangular drains. Is that difficult?

[@renovationschool8818]

That is depending on the style of the drain and your craftsmanship level.

[@marvindavis8793]

5:59

[@averymay7274]

If you have no leaks but want to improve the flow of water toward the drain, can you use tile over tile to change the slope?

[@renovationschool8818]

Depending on the type of tile and drain yes

[@renovationschool8818]

Depending on the type of tile and drain you can do it for sure as you saw it on this video

[@BecauseIamHere]

I know this is a year old video but I figure I'll try. I have the same issue and want to tile over top. Only problem is the drain is a linear type that can't be adjusted up or down. Its a Schluter system so the drain has a flange that is under the schluter. Any ideas how to extend some kind of drain?

[@renovationschool8818]

You won't be able to unfortunately. I know what exact type of drain you have . This will not work in your case. You have to redo the whole shower base.

[@messygreasyhand5465]

i am thinking about retiling on top of existing tile due to uneven low spot area of the shower pan and is pooling water. Other than the process you mentioned on your video, before actual retiling, what would be the recommended process to ensure on top tile will have correct slope down to drain?

[@renovationschool8818]

You can mix some thinset and fix the slope first and then tile over that when it's dry

[@mrs.conscious]

so did you wait in between the thin-set and grout? Did you allow the thin-set to fully dry first or just added the grout once you completed the thin-set application? Thank you

[@renovationschool8818]

I did the tile the first day and grout the next day. You need to allow the thin set to dry up completely

[@coburn_karma]

Great work. How often do you have to apply the sealer for the stones?

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching, it depends on the usage
I normally seal them once a year.

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching
It depends on the usage
I normally see them once a year

[@IsidroAlvarez68]

It will depend on the brand of sealer. The directions will provide the details as to how often to reapply the sealer.

[@mukeshvig174]

👍👍👍

[@ksmithkatcarving]

before you place grout place sealer over face of tile ,easier to clean grout off surface

[@renovationschool8818]

good idea
I wanted the maximum bond between the tile and grout thats why i applied the sealler after.
thanks for the comment.🙏

[@gerrycosme6034]

aside from silicone you use on the corner, what is the alternative coz i don't like to use silicone on the corner, can i use grout on the corner?

[@renovationschool8818]

OK, so grout will crack , the tile or better to say, walls and the entire house expand and contract, things shift in the house or the house settles after time , these will cause the grout to crack on the corners at some point. because grout is hard material. Silicon is soft and after the expansion and contractions happens the soft silicon will also move with the walls or shower floor corners and it stops the water from seeping in and causing mold or water damage behind the tiles, that is why you see pros use silicon on the corners. now there is a specialty silicon that has grout mixed in it, it looks exactly like grout but it has silicon mixed in it , it comes in a tube and it applies just like the regular silicon, I will leave you a link bellow so you can see it , you can get them from home depot , lows and any tile store. over all that's the idea behind using silicon on the corners. there is another type of grout also , its called polymeric epoxy grout , that product is a crack proof, but its very hard to find and its very pricey , its very hard to clean and it will leave a haze on the tiles when you're done. you need to wash the tiles with denatured alcohol many times after the grout job is done just to remove the haze. i used it twice and I regretted it both times. it will add a lot of unnecessary cost and labor to a tile project. I hope I answered your question , thanks again for watching.
here is a link to the silicon/grout mixture that I was talking about , it comes in sanded and none sanded packages depending on what grout you use.
www.homedepot.com/p/Custom-Building-Products-Polyblend-380-Haystack-10-5-oz-Sanded-Ceramic-Tile-Caulk-PC38010S/100678064

[@RichNationProds]

Question. My shower walls are concrete block. Should I tile the floor all the way to touching the walls or leave a gap for expansion and fill the gap with silicone ? Thanks great video

[@renovationschool8818]

Thanks for watching, I honestly have not seen a singel concrete shower wall in my life , concrete is very pours and it absorbs water like a sponge I don't know why or how come u have concrete walls to begin with!

[@RichNationProds]

@@renovationschool8818 I live in Florida and all homes here are pretty much concrete block . Yes interior walls have Sheetrock over them . However this shower was built out in the garage and all walls are concrete (heavily painted). Was built in the 1960s and has worked fine that way. Anyway my plan is to completely TILE the inside of the shower walls anyway . Starting with tiling over the floor.

[@renovationschool8818]

Wow that's very interesting
U can differently tile over it but make sure to apply redguard or some type of waterproofing membrane before u tile it because if the water leakes through the tiles or grout lines you don't want to have mold issues.