Dragon GT/X1 Display Programming
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- čas přidán 24. 03. 2021
- Hey there everyone!
Today I'm going to show you how to program your Dragon scooters, Dragon GT and Dragon X1 is covered here and the new X10 and X11 video will be coming soon!
I do go over how to unlock the speed of your scooter in this video, so if that's what you're after watch till the end.
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PINEAPPLE45 - GTS v2
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To those of you that have the new version of the ESC for the X1, they are being shipped with p8 already set to 100%.
I am working on a solution for unlocking these models, I'm really sorry I don't have a solution just yet!
Dude. It's an LiNiMnCo 48 13S battery that. discharges to 2.8v per cell P1= 36.5v.
@@Rand0mManic the Dragon scooters use Li-Ion cells.
2.9v dead flat, 3.2v suggested minimum, 4.2v fully charged. The 48v batteries 13s 54.6v fully charged, 39v dead flat.
I have a few of the batteries stripped down to the cells being prepped for a rebuild, they’re Dynavolt/Dynabatt li-ion cells.
Unless you’ve put a different battery in there 🤷🏻♂️
Did you manage to find out yet? I have a newer one already set to 100 and still maxes out
@@plonkosbrazoon I would suggest getting in touch with BikeScooterCity with some photos of the esc (silver box with all the wires) and they’ll sort you out.
There is no way to unlock the esc’s with the black plastic end caps on them. This is an issue that BikeScooterCity are trying their hardest to resolve!
what is the top speed of the newer one
Thanks so much for the help
No worries at all ✌️
are both gt and x1 same speed when unlocked. Does this effect the battery duration and range to much
I have the moovway S11. How can we increase the brightness please ? And for reset the device ? Thank you very much !
I went for a test drive one the dragon X1 and they are a really good scooter
They’re really nippy and light, great for short trips at low speeds.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt a lot of people love them around the Sunshine coast due to how reliable they are the practicality of them and how it doesn't take that long to fully charge
@@ryanwalter757 spot on, they're usually allowed on public transport so it's a no brainer.
No scooter takes long to charge when you charge at their max capability.
I never wait more than 2.5 hours, no matter the scooter.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt I've heard my GTS V2 is supposed to be perfect around Redcliffe due to the practicality it's reliability plus its max weight load as people tend to buy the seat mount and they get themselves a wet suit bag as people tend to mount them to the seat mount and they use them to carry their groceries plus keeping it waterproof at the same time as it tends to rain quite a lot on the coast line due to moisture lingering offshore which I was planning on doing the exact same thingbut I just have to save up and get the front tyre replaced as well since it looks a bit odd with just an all terrain tyre on the back
@@JamiePineappleWyatt images.app.goo.gl/RJpsAJfPDJP4kXDC7 that is the wet suit bag that I have seen people use to mount to the seat mount from behind the seat
I must add one important thing : I thought the battery could do 20 km, I only do 8... I'm not thin, but that's quite a loss of range! Is there a setting to change this? Thanks a lot!
What about the Hunter x10
Great video mate. Just wondering if these P settings would be the same on the Urban X5? I can access the P settings by pressing mode and power, but i'm not sure what the settings are.
They’re not the same at all mate, there has recently been a 2nd generation of them ship out and everything is different again to the first few lots.
I do know P2 is for cruise control on or off though!
If I work out any more I’ll make sure to post them though!
Thanks for the comment!
@@JamiePineappleWyatt No worries, thanks for that. You have probably given me the setting i was looking for the most though!
@@muggwump9 too easy mate, I prefer to turn it off myself, cruise control tends to turn on at the worst of times! 🍍
Would you recommend the X1 or the GT for a first timer looking for something to carry in our caravan just to get out and about not looking to do long distances, weight 83kg
For a first timer either are a great choice!
Your weight shouldn’t be a problem for them at all. If you find that it’s not enough for you, there’s always an upgrade to the GTS that would give you more range and comfort
@sultry pinapple what do they mean by getting 35km/h 'unrestricted'.. because I've changed setting 8 to 100% and the GT maxes out at 25km/h..
Youll need to talk to BSC as theyve made some hardware changes since this video was made
How do I find the speed limiter
Hi do you know if the dragon x9 can be unlocked the same way? Thanks
The X9 should have different different settings, P8 will still handle max speed though. P11 handles regen strength and P12 handles throttle curve. 1 being low for these settings and 5 being the highest.
Do not change any of the other settings as you can cause damage to your battery.
i’m thinking about getting either the gt or x1 but not too sure what. i’ve read some of the comments and was wondering if there was any way of unlocking the speed of either scooters so that they go faster than 25km/h? Thanks
Hey there Sam, as far as I’m aware the controllers were changed after the making of this video (for both the GT and X1) there is no way to make them go faster than 25km/h, the hose that claim they have, have actually just reset their displays and stuffed with the wheel dimensions ✌🏻
@@JamiePineappleWyatt i’ve messaged bsc and they’ve said that both the gt and x1 are able to go 30-35km/h and that you can unlock them
@@realfiremansam1812 only if you go and get your esc replaced by them because the ones out of the box are hard limited to 25 with no option to unlock them. Only the old ones from last year (what they’d be putting in there if you went back and complained that they don’t go 31km/h) will do what you’re asking.
Believe whoever you like, no skin off my nose ✌🏻
Have a look at the number of comments on this video with the issue you’re discussing 😅
Is there a way to ‘reset’ the scooter? I have a blue box appearing on screen and it starts-stops etc and won’t ride continuously.
Andrew, your ESC is broken and needs to be replaced.
Something could be wrong with your display too, take it into BikeScooterCity to get it serviced and they’ll sort you out in no time!
@nick sirillas your esc has a fault mate, get in touch with BSC and send them an email with the fault your suffering.
The USB port on the displays is for programming, max 500mah output, I wouldn’t suggest using it to charge one of today’s phones as they need a shitload more power than that to charge, not to mention the dc-dc in the displays can’t really handle the strain
Hey there. Is this the same for the Dragon X10?
Sorry mate, not even close.
I have a video coming for it though!
@@JamiePineappleWyatt cheers
What is the little red light on the top right of the screen ? Its the one at 9 seconds once you turned it on . Mine is on that and has stopped running. Everything els turns on it just doesnt take off
You will have either a bad brake sensor of a short sonewhere in the cable, that icon is telling you that the brake switch is actuated
@@JamiePineappleWyatt oh ok thankyou so much ill have a look over it
@@Rexx90 no worries ✌️
@@JamiePineappleWyatt oh its not the light when you put the brake on its 2 more to the right. The on on the end. Its a nother little red symbol
@@Rexx90 what does the symbol look like?
What’s the max speed for the x1 and which one is better x1 or gt
They’re both the same internally (battery, power, motors).
Both should top out at 31-32km/h when unlocked.
As for which one is better, it depends on your use case. The GT is best for water resistance and has a solid rear tire with a tube tire in the front, whereas the X1 is lighter and has solid tires on both the front and rear.
Why is my dragon x1 stayin under 24 kmph I did the p8 menu too can you please contact me on Instagram for help
Can you change the scooter from rear wheel to front wheel on the dragon x1?
Not easily, no
@@JamiePineappleWyatt dam would you recommend if it’s a good idea to change the battery to a higher voltage and watts for a higher speed, and would you also need to change the motor pull engine if that’s what it’s called
I mean if you're looking for more power sure, but by the time you're done, you'll have spent quite a lot more money.
May as well go for a Kaabo Skywalker 8 at that point.
There is a Bluetooth symbol on mine do you know what is for and how to connect it
What scooter do you have?
Vmax r25
How do I unlock my dragon x1 so that I can go faster
I would contact BSC as they have had a few iterations of controllers since this video was made unfortunately.
Some cannot be unlocked.
Hi, sorry for bothering you. I was wrong, on P1 I clicked the voltage up to 60. I want to go back to 36. Can you help me thanks ... Luca
Just go back to p1 and keep pressing the button to change the setting until it says 36v again
@@JamiePineappleWyatt Thanks for the technical advice 👍
Heyy how do I turn the lights on
Depends on which scooter, the X1 hold the mode button, a light will show up on the display, same for the X10. Urban X5 double tap the power button. GT - GTR v2 have a switch on the left side of the handlebars :)
Why do shipping codes not change?
What do you mean?
Hey, I have a VMax R-20 Pro-s with the same display, but it doesn't go above 16km/h even with p8 at 100. Do you have an idea what might be wrong?
To add, I have tested the motor without touching the ground with the same measily 16km/h.
No idea, more than likely that your controller doesnt support changing the settings.
Have a look for some loop connections on the controller, try disconnecting them and you might get somewhere.
Also from what i can see in amazon listings, theyre not the same displays, theyre close, but not the same, be careful with that.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt I might add, that I bought it broken and fixed it. The red and black display cables are a bit burned up and 4 cables (grey, brown, pink and purple, purple is on 36V) from the display arent conntected to the motor controller, but the motor controller doesn't even have pins left.
I tried shorting the grey, brown and pink in different confugurations, but no result.
I think, I'll just buy a new motor controller, do you have any suggestions for the Jh-01?
And how could you spot s difference? The displays look identical to me.
@@jackarolax5770 there is a red ring around the display on the Jh-01, I have a fair bit of experience retro-fitting hardware and have seen more displays than I could name haha.
Any controller and display combo will work as long as it's for a scooter, it only has an 8ah battery so you want something in the 250w output range or you'll hurt the battery.
I would suggest just getting a full combo kit so you can rest assured everything will work properly, here's a link for a 36/48v controller and display combo, should also come with a display cable for you too. www.aliexpress.com/item/4000143167855.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.743b57f2qAMeTj&algo_pvid=70f282b3-cc60-4b94-8839-17117a96c813&algo_exp_id=70f282b3-cc60-4b94-8839-17117a96c813-8&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2210000000433949760%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21AUD%21%2134.85%21%21%2114.81%21%21%402103250d16529381181022345e7592%2110000000433949760%21sea
Dont go shorting random pins, every 6-pin can be very different and you could straight short the battery. Orange and red is usually for the on signal though.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt I have upgraded to a 50 cell 36v 13,88 Ah(500wh) battery and the legal speed limit in Germany is 20km/h(with a tolerance up to 22km/h) would you still recommend that combo? If yes, I would straight up buy it. And you should really make a motor controller buyers guide or sth like that, because there kinda aren't any videos about escooters and motor controllers on youtube.
Will this affect the warranty of the scooter
What in specific are you asking?
There’s a lot of settings displayed in this video, it depends on what you change. There are ones that you should not change, otherwise you will cause issues with your scooter, for example setting your low voltage cutoff too high will stop your scooter from turning on, whereas setting it too low will hurt your battery and void your warranty.
If your speed setting is set too 100% then will that affect your warranty
@@thesl1ckrick164 no, that’s perfectly fine. If you do change the other settings and break something that wouldn’t be covered though.
I disagree about not changing P0 Wheel Diameter settings
Scooter speedos are notoriously inaccurate and changing wheel diameters until they correspond to you GPS speedo app on your phone will solve that problem.
Best to use the trip odometer readings to aling the two sets of readings rather than the speed readings as you can make safer more accurate comparisons after you finish your ride.
Don’t change the wheel diameter, change the pole pair count to 15 and it should be right, most are set incorrectly to 14 in the first place.
I was trying to mess around with this to stop the scooter from auto turning off so I could use the lights on it when sitting around in dark
Sorry mate, display timeout is not a function on these at all.
Probably best off grabbing a bar light (especially if you’re using the X1)
The X10 does have this feature though. Up to 60-minutes I believe.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt for your own preferability do you prefer the X10 or gtrV2 without considering any price points
@@dusk1673 X10 all day, not even a question about it tbh.
I turned the speed up on the x1 and the speed didnt change, any suggestions of how to fix it?
If you changed P8 to 100% and you got nothing extra out of it I'd be surprised.
A few things come to mind, such as;
- was your test done on a flat path and not a climb?
-what's your weight? (personal I know, but completely relevant, If you're over 110kg it will really struggle to go faster than around 28km/h)
-did you change P8 to 100 and if not what setting did you change?
-was your test done at full battery voltage or half flat/nearly dead? (speed is directly relative to the voltage of the battery)
Hope the questions aren't too invasive, just needed to ask before I can really point you in the right direction.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt i weight 50 and yes it was on flat surface with full charge, when i got into p8 it was already on 100, also i think i might have cruise control on but i dont know how to turn it off
@@bradharvey9807 you’re also riding in “Mode 3” right? Your weight should get you nearly full speed (31-32km/h).
If you’re in mode 3 and everything is set properly then there will be a limiter loop on the esc and it can be easily disconnected. It’s best for you to send me a message on reddit if you’d like me to walk you through it :)
To turn off Cruise control, just change the setting under cruise control (from the video) from 0-1 or vice versa.
@@JamiePineappleWyatt ok, also the brightness on the main screen ive noticed that it is hard to see in the daylight is there anyway i can turn it up
@@bradharvey9807 there is no setting for backlight brightness, what you’ve got is what you get.
My GTS
P0= 10"
P1= 48v T 37 should to correct. Mine might not be working correctly. It works of a 66v pack There is no settings between 32 and 37 to calibrate it more correctly.
P2= 15 (slots)
P3= 1 Stuck
P4 KPH MPH
P5. 0= Zero start mode. ;)
P6 = 1= Cruise control. (Hold throttle in at X speed for 10 seconds. Releases by throttle or brake)"
P7. Insane torque dual motor mode.. I'm 70kg and the GTSv2 jumps off the ground, . Its unusable for my needs.
P8 Speed limiter.
P9 Nope I got it wrong.
Doesn't seem to be able to disable regen braking, Oh well.
P1 needs to be 41.5v. Lowest it can be is 39 but you’ll be draining your battery right to 0.
P2 is magnet pairs. I usually set it to about 17. 15 is the default. I’ve counted the magnet pairs in most scooters BSC sell, they’re usually 14 but the speedo won’t read correctly if it’s not set to either 15 or 17 depending on the riders weight. (I suggest 17).
P3 you don’t touch, that’s comms protocol. Bad things happen when you force it to change.
P4 is right.
P5 is know as PAS (Push assist) 0 on 1 off.
P6 is not a setting I suggest having enabled, it usually comes on just as you don’t want it most of the time, especially if you ride in fairly crowded areas.
P7 is acceleration, 0 normal, 1 high. (Punchy on some of the latest batches of scooters) be careful with this one if you use it, be ready for a good kick and don’t pull on the handlebars.
P8 is speed limit, 100% is unlocked.
P9 is brake strength.
This video is for the GT and X1, there is an independent video for the GTS-GTR v2.
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