Leafs Scream | The Steve Dangle Podcast
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- On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 Do the Leafs have a giant VIBES problem?
14:00 It looks like William Nylander isn't getting an extension, UNLESS Matthews takes less
44:00 Mitch Marner isn't going anywhere
1:02:00 The Leafs sign Klingberg, Bertuzzi, and Domi over the weekend and are now over the cap
1:31:30 Max Domi trivia and projecting the Leafs line combinations
1:40:00 John Gibson trade request DRAMA
Recorded: July 4, 2023
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A show without a gambling section feels just right.
One or two segments a week would be lots
Maybe we should be grateful that they have sponsors who are allowing the guys we love to focus solely on this network instead of having to have two jobs?
Just because gambling doesn’t appeal to you doesn’t mean that it isn’t of interest to others. I have never bet on sports, but I enjoy the banter between the guys and David B.
Try to find the good, it’s there.
@@J-Rock12 Bless your heart.
@@J-Rock12 "I, for one, welcome our new corporate overlords."
I skip it every show. I don’t gamble and, even if I did, I’m not in Canada. I like Dave, I just wish it was less about the odds.
The tension between Adam and Steve during that nylander segment was outstanding. Adam was beyond annoyed love it
I was annoyed lol
Cause Steve is annoying at times, he acts like a 5 year old lol
He is kinda right on this one though.
Adam is annoying, I wish they'd drop him
@@Dan-hz4vfoh ya Steve gets into his “I hate the Leafs” mode and Adam desperately just wants to have a conversation but Steve is such a die hard that talking about certain aspects of the team makes him grumpy
“Ice cream has never let me down, the leafs have” Steve Dangle, 2023
Would be unfortunate if he developed lactose intolerance
@@heliumtrophy he'd still eat it
@@_HeebeJeebe_ Wouldn't surprise me
@@heliumtrophy after 1 spoon he'd scream LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
I felt like my parents were fighting during the Nylander segment
Real talk. As a child of divorce, that's exactly how it felt. 🤣
I agree with Steve. 13.5 million for Matthews is not a discount. Why is Adam so delusional.
He was taking term into account with that one but you're also (like steve) missing his point of the number not mattering lol
@@gromponsu8913he's not taking 13.5 on 8 years. This is Matthews were talking about. He's signing 3 years max. He wants the next big pay day
When you could sign for 15 on the open market, and instead you sign for 13.5 with your current club, thats literally the definition of a discount. If you don't think next year Matthews could get 15 from someone on the open market, you're dreaming.
@@KS-xk2so if that's his MO, Leafs need to trade him. Pains me to say but they won't go anywhere as long as the core guys are making so much. Gotta leave something on the table to improve the whole team.
@@rickma6363 So him taking less than he could get is bad and they should trade him for someone who will take less than they could get? Try making sense at least.
“Oh Steven” had me crying😂😂
Whose crying? IT'S MINE. MY CRYING
Steve’s right
@@ottomackensen I agree with Steve, just Adam sounded so defeated lmao
HOLYYY THE NYLANDER THE DISCUSSION WAS 🔥🔥🔥 THIS IS HOW PODCASTS SHOULD BE!!! WELL DONE BOYSSS!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
This was fantastic 👏🏼 👌
Could feel the passion in both sides of the argument. Great discussions.
They obviously hate each other. WWE cagematch coming up?
/s
Adam saying Mcdavid didn’t perform in the playoffs is hilarious. Especially him implying Matthews and Mcdavid are on the same level, let’s be real please.
Seriously man he hates McDavid for some reason. Matthews can barely crack ppg in the playoffs while McDavid leads the playoffs in points despite not making the cup finals ever
bruh all the best player on each teams where on him in the playoff and he still got 20 points
Danault shut down Matthews when he was in Montréal. He didn't shutdown or contain
Mcdavid when he went to the Kings with a better team. Matthews can't be making more then McDavid or MacKinnon on his next deal. If he eats up that cap increase the zleafs are in the same position when they signed him to that $11 million deal.
@@rickma6363honestly if it wasn’t for the massive tax difference between Toronto and Tampa, Matthews shouldn’t even be paid the same as Kucherov. Matthews has no cups, only 1 series win, won a Hart and Ted Lindsay when you could easily debate McDavid deserved both of those significantly more, has 22 goals and 44 points in 50 Playoff games, and has a career PPG of 1.12. Kucherov on the other hand has 2 cup wins, 2 more appearances in the finals, an Art Ross (him and Draisaitl are the only players to outscore McDavid in a season since 2016) a Hart and a Ted Lindsay, has 53 goals and 160 points in 142 playoff games, and a career PPG of 1.13. McDavid>Draisaitl>Mackinnon>=Kucherov>Tkachuk(imo)>Matthews
the point is the result is the same. Steve is all cup this cup that, win this win that, and the Leafs and Oilers ended at the same spot.
Steve is just flatly right about the big four re-signing, you get them at a home town discount or you move on.
He is - he's seen that the top 4's greed has killed the ability to build a cohesive team. Nylander's latest wage demands are the straws that broke the camel's back.
@@heliumtrophyI'm not sure if it was greed.
Fubas had total control, and decided it means nothing, just give them all 5-6 year deals, instead of 8. If you had another 2 years of Willy, 3 of Mathews and 4 of Marner as the cap jumps, you're in an amazing spot..
@@JJnSFarms 1000%
@@people3865 I can't believe Kyle Dubas didn't have the foresight to add an extra 2-3 years on all of those deals as a fallback in case a global pandemic happened three years in and stunted league revenue, forcing a delayed cap spike instead of it consistently going up for the last 3 years.
You can say the deals were a poorly thought out risk in hindsight or that he didn't do enough to get out of them, and I'd agree on either/both fronts. He made his bed and he's sleeping in a different one in Pittsburgh because of it. But expecting him to plan for a cap spike that's only happening because the world basically stopped functioning for a year and a half midway through those deals, and still isn't *actually* guaranteed depending on how this coming season goes, is insane recency bias. Dubas made plenty of mistakes as Leafs GM, I don't really get why so many people seem to get stuck on his inability to see the future
lose them all for nothing is so stupid
adam really said 13.5 mill is a pay cut for Matthews..... we are screwed
It is though because Matthews could get $15 million as an unrestricted free agent.
Its going to be 14
@@CarrieFlattsFan13 so could MacKinnon but he intentionally chose to take less despite already dragging his team to a cup.
@@CarrieFlattsFan13 This type of thinking is cancerous lol. That's not how it works in any other market.
@@CarrieFlattsFan13 Just because someone else is willing to overpay doesn't mean it's a discount. Take Mathews out of it. Lets say 31 out of 32 GMs around the league say they wouldn't pay player X more than 10M per year. But one team had a hard time attracting free agents, they have plenty of cap space and they're in desperate need of a star player for ticket sales, so they offer play X 13M. When player X decides to take 10M to play for a better team, he didn't take a discount. He got what he's actually worth and on a team where his career will likely go better than the guy trying to leverage teams in a bad situation.
A discount for Matthews is signing the exact same contract for another 3 years. 3x11.634. Willy at 3x8.8 is fair (keep in mind, he's making 7.5m a year now, not the 6.9m his cap hit would have you believe) . Mitch at 8x11.5 and Tavares at 3x5m, or 5x3.75m and not a penny more next year.
You are out of your f mind if you think those numbers reflect what they should earn.
I agree with Steve on the “Matthews gets more annually than Mackinnon automatically” debate. What has Auston done to just auto be highest paid guy in the league? No cups one 2nd round appearance and just had a down year for his standards with some janky wrist that seems like it’s never going to be the same again?? I’m by no means saying he stinks but he’s certainly not worthy to be highest paid player in the league.
Steve is being realistic.
It's the Leafs - they overpay. He knows it from experience.
But mackinnon was signed to be the highest player in the league BEFORE he won a cup also
This comment is so dumb 🤦
@@canadastamina37Avs won the cup June 2022 Nate signed his extension September 2022
Adam is just like Steve we are doing our show now play along and Steve just refused completely 😂🤦♂️😂
Dangle your in my head. I remember when that was said, I was shocked to hear the Leafs players had never been out as a team to dinner. MASSIVE red flag. But a lot of Leaf fans who watch the team have always known the mix was wrong.
I’m only 25:45 in and I have to say this is one of the best shows in a long time. I hope the rest remains as good.
Adam's repeated takes about matthews being as good as McDavid is probably the most insane stance on this podcast
Which is saying something. Every other take he has is pretty dogshit.
Mathews is the best leaf ever. But Mcdavid is arguably the best player ever…..Mathews is not in that conversation.
He’s talking from a salary standpoint.
@@ultraginge1990McMuffin isn’t even Top 50 all time.
@@TheEdog37 💀💀💀🤡🤡🤡
Willy just barely cracking 40 goals for the first time at 27 and wanting 11m is hilarious
he’s already 27 😮 jeez hadn’t done the math on that in a while, not a fresh daisy any more (thought process: no way he’s 27, he’s only a few years older than me! … wait 😬 guess I’m not too fresh any more either)
He's delusional.
Take it in, he played an unusuably high amount of time playing on Matthew's line than in season past which was a clear reason why he managed to get 40 goals. There's no guarantee that he'll be Matthew's linemate next year and honestly the best case scenario for the leafs is him playing on the Tavares line. But we have enough evidence to see that Nylander sucks when playing with Tavares, who happens to be a point per game center and a player who produces around his point range. If he cant be a 40 goal scorer when playing with a center around his skill range then how tf is he gonna demand all that money when a big part of his success, this season, is him playing with a 2 times rocket winning center. If he goes to free agency, good luck finding a team who has a center as good as Matthews. He's definitely not gonna score 40 goals again if he moves on to another team unless by some miracle, the oilers or the avs get him.
It isn't hilarious. He knows his worth to the team. It's 11 million. Then again Leafs fans weren't ready to give Bunting 5 million either since apparently most players should just play for free for Leafs and every player just love the leafs.
@@markiv2942 Bunting isn't worth 5 million. Just like Willy isn't worth 11.
Steve asking Adam if post-punk wasn't a good era killed me for a second. Adam carries this podcast when it comes to music.
Yeah no kidding lol
@@SteveDangledoes adam like shoegaze
Adam implying Matthews is on the same level as Mcdavid. Ooooof not this again. STEVE might be the only sane one.
Matthews isn't even comparable to MacKinnon.
@Pajo25ify I won't lie everytime I see McKinnon play he is absolutely insane. You notice him every time he hits the ice. Never realized how dominant he really is.
@@thealbinorhino8760 as an Avs fan I've had the privilege to watch him dominate for years now. One of the reasons Matthews shouldn't even sniff the money MacKinnon makes is because MacKinnon often centers second/third line wingers, and when the Avs need a game changing shift Rantanen becomes his winger. If Matthews can put up ~90 points with Knies and Järnkrok as his primary wingers he can ask for MacKinnon money. Also MacKinnon won a Cup before signing his deal.
I think Adam is under the assumption that Domi and Bertuzzi throw the body more than they actually do.
MacKinnon is not only a better playoff performer, but a better leader. Nobody is wondering who the heart of the avalanche is. Matthew’s looks asleep half the time. Also Mac took a huge discount after winning a cup. Leafs aren’t gonna win anything if Auston takes more
MacKinnon comparisons are so dumb. Did everyone forget how average he was when he joined the league? That's why his first contract was so low. He didn't score over 24 goals for his whole rookie contract. Then went from 6 mil to double after winning the cup. He's not sacrificing anything lol
@ShawnBlaque Everyone does forget that lmao.
Just like these Homer's comparing Draisiatl's number. Nobody seems to remember that Oilers fans were ready to riot, because "Draisiatl doesn't deserve that much money"
@@ShawnBlaque I never forgot thst. But that is how it is supposed to be done. Win when you aren't making the most and when you win, you are rewarded. The Leafs did it backwards.
Vegas bonded together by really leaning into their misfit status, that and respect for each other because no one else had any respect for them. They really leaned into the "us against the world" feeling and took it to the Championship
You can just see and feel the pain and heartache in Steve. I don't blame him for a second.
Steve's argument on Nylander was based in reality and Adam's argument is based in a fantasy world.
39:21 "Brandon Carlo - not a Bruin anymore". Me: furiously Googles to confirm. He is in fact still a Bruin according to the Google
No one can argue that Matthews deserves to be the highest paid player in the league, he’s not on the same level as Mackinnon or McDavid. It’s cringe worthy to think that Matthews could very well become the highest paid player in the league.
I'll make an argument. The cap is going up. One can argue that AM34 is a top 5 player in the league. MacKinnon takes up about 15.1% of his team's cap. With a 5M cap increase 15% would be 13.275. Taking 13M is a 275k discount.
@tdemko30 he's not top 5 though
@@romansmith6404 come on man
McDavid, Draisiatal, MacKinnon, Makar, Kucherov, Vaselevski are all above Matthew’s, he’s top 10, not top 5
@@austinkane3366kuch no vasy yes
If this team has truly learned and understands what’s at stake, Matthews will step up and take less and get 16 and 88 on board with him.
If Matthews went to Marner and Willy and said we are all signing for $10million there would be a press conference where they are building statues their statues tomorrow
Except Willy isn't worth 10 million a year.... at all.
Lol at the 5 minute tense af sidebar after Adam saying to ignore the number he gave as a “discount” for Auston
Matthews needs to be the leader he is supposed to be and sign his deal for a little less and get Willy on board.
😊 etenee2
@@RG-lr4pk You've been in the locker room to know that, huh?
I love that you all can argue so passionately yet be respectful to each other
To Steve’s point on the Leafs core taking less - Bergeron left $3M per year on the table to stay in Boston and keep the team competitive, about 35% less than he could have made elsewhere…I don’t see Matthews or any of the core four doing the same for Toronto…they might take a little less and pat themselves on the back for being team guys, but it won’t be substantially less like what Bergeron did, and that’s what would be needed to make a real impact
The Leafs sign Klingberg, Bertuzzi and Demi Moore.
I've been saying the core needs to take discounts in order to build a proper contending team.. Ppl think I'm joking or out in left field.. So glad u guys said what u said. Thank you!
I think what people miss about the sweetheart deals and hometown discounts guys take is that those deals were signed at the perfect time. They mention MacKinnon and Marchand, look at when those deals when signed, it was before those guys really broke out. Marchand especially, his deal was right before his first 80 pt season. Or look at Draisaitl, he signed just a season out from a string of 100 pt seasons. Guys don’t take discounts, teams get luck with timing and the Leafs didn’t.
EDIT: Watched more, the reason Draisaitl's contract is so good is because they burned a year of his deal. If they slide his elc another year he would have been coming off an even more productive year and the number likely goes above 8.5.
Now that Steve quit his job, I hope Adam and Jesse will take one for the team and do the right thing. Take less money, it is the right thing to do. Willie has to see the cap next year, and go for it. He will get his 10 mil.. Marner was the ticket to trade.
Adam and Jesse did quit well before Steve did.. He was the last to so but understandably due to sportnet deal with Steve. ✌🏾
But I totally get ur point tho..
DANGLE even going to be able to stream games this season without that SN connection?
@@markdaigle4030 Dangle wasn't streaming games because he wanted to, he was streaming games because he was getting paid by Sportsnet to do so.
Don't think Adam, Jesse, or Steve makes over 10 million a year each. Big difference I would say.
When you have a group that is divided by title; Given a separate identity, "the core" a group of Millionaires, and another group are working stiffs. That are short term, here today gone tomorrow. There maybe some separation by class? Or there may be clicks. It is the team managements job/responsibility to over come that.
Hey guys. Hope you are well.-me
"Hmmm" - the Witcher
Ain't that a lot
If the salary cap is the hill you want to die on, Adam, I only have one thing to say: Enjoy covering the KHL the next time the CBA runs out. That is not an option.
Really enjoyed this one, good job boys.
William Nylander is the only guy who said during the exit interviews that "I want to play IN TORONTO"
not the bullshit like Marner's "We're all still under contract."
I would take Nylander over Marner 100%, but now you can't move Marner.
If they could get Nylander on a 9.185 AAV over 8 years, and slap on a no movement clause since he wants to stay in Toronto, I'd take it. He wants to stay in Toronto, so an NMC should bring the AAV down.
Hey dont make fun of the Saddledome---home of many fond memories including the 1988 Olympic Hockey Games!----Nice sight lines!
I love the heat you all brought to this episode. Keep it spicy 🔥🔥🔥
Just a note on Jesse's comment about the core 4 not taking a discout, Tavares took a discount to come here. He was offered 12.5 mil by San Jose but chose to come the Leafs instead at 11 mil. And that's with the higher tax brackets here in Canada.
Then he made his contract a completely untradable unbuyoutable boat anchor.
Eh jesse shouldnt have a mic tbh
@@RandomGuyCDN which has nothing to do with my comment....
If you think 11 million is a discount, its not. Just because another team was willing to overpay, doesn't make the other team who overpaid better. They still overpaid. And that contract resulted in the cap problems you have now.
@@mrpenguin451 agreed
You guys are doing a good job getting better Thanks for the Hockey talk
this was such a fun one
The Nylander-to-Columbus talks start with Jiricek.
That's also the point where Jarmo hangs up on Brad.
steve is very stubborn on every stance he’s ever taken, he dies on the hill every single time
Damn Steve was so right about the red flag.
Banger episode today boys thank you
Can we just say what a great episode this was the title should have been in all caps..HEARTS ON SLEEVES ❤
Genuinely love the passion in that first segment, boys!
I love how the Leafs sort of go back to “truckulence” and everyone seems happy about it 😂
I remember cringing at the team meal thing back when it happened. I forget who said it but I remember thinking that going out for a team meal once in awhile should be a regular thing not a one off.
That Nylander segment is why I watch this podcast.
40 points for Willy in 50 and 47 points for Mitch in 50 in the playoffs. Both terrified of the corners and literally flee from puck battles, the way I do from my wife during her special time a month.
There's frankly no justification to Mathews making that money. There's more of an argument for Marner making that money. Marner is the guy that makes other players around him better. Marner is the guy who plays in every situation. Marner is the best overall player on the team. For guys to discount him because he's not a center is bullshit. He plays more like a center than Mathews or Tavares. He just doesn't take faceoffs. Mathews should be taking way less on his next deal because he was hugely overpaid on this deal. Same with Tavares. If Mathews thinks he's worth McDavid and McKinnon money he should probably be putting up McDavid and McKinnon numbers.
I really don't get why Toronto fans can't see that. The best three players on the Leafs are.
1. Mitch
2. Willie
3. Matthews
@@eddiereekie2403 Hahahahahahahaha wow...... this is a joke right? Marner is great, personally overall I think Matthews is half a notch better, but they are both excellent.... and both a FAR superior players to William Nylander... my god.
Ok Paul, whatever
The three stooges…Steve is Moe, Adam is Curly and Jesse is Larry.
Bringing in a 6'1'' / 199lbs guy (Bertuzzi) to be a physical presence on a line with a center who's 6'3'' / 220lbs (Matthews)... makes sense. I hope Reaves gives 34 a hard time until he starts playing like the big guy he is.
I also think Nashville will be a better team this year. When you consider the fact that Saros almost dragged an NHL roster of AHL players into the last wild card spot they're probably a dark horse because no one understands how good Saros is in net for the Preds.
They are also 1 injury away from the bottom 5 in the league. Long time habs fan, so I know how a good goalie getting injured derails mediocre teams.
Leafs fans ran Larry Murphy and Phil Kessel out of town so they could get Cups and Rings with other teams....
The Leafs signing Demi is crazy
Great convo guys! Some serious salt Steve-o
Love it, Steve got into his Internet Troll mode on Adam lol!
The "call out" videos where they all say Tavares is the hardest to reach and worst at texting back are such a red flag looking back.
Not really. Most of them are in their early to mid 20s and at most have a dog.... Tavares is in his early 30s with a wife and multiple children... he's probably a tad busy.
@@KS-xk2so It makes complete sense why he’s that way, but if they have locker room problems, that might need something else from a captain or the ACs to step up more.
@@rosependley7108 From what we saw in the 24/7 footage, this team has several leadership guys. Marner, Rielly, JT, Muzzin, etc. I'm sure there are 4 or 5 guys who step up, its not all on the captain, it never is.
I come to this podcast for entertainment and Steve just being a screaming old man really killed the vibes this episode. Surprised so many people loved that segment, Steve - please dont go in that direction
This is a great podcast today
Matthews at 13.5m is not a discount at all. He is not in the Mack, McDavid conversation in terms of delivering results. Matthews should be 10-10.5mil max.
Best intro of the year 😂😂😂
If Matthews is 13.5 Nylander is 11. Also if you compare Matthews to MacKinnon, Matthews can't even ask for what he is making now.
@@JJnSFarms Then again if you look at it from a players standpoint, I'd say Matthews is worth 85% of Nathan MacKinnon, and to actually get that sort of money with the taxes in Toronto his salary would have to be north of $15M, which honestly wouldn't be a problem if the NHL didn't have an absolutely moronic triple hard salary cap.
@@JJnSFarms we're actually approaching a situation where the best players are about to have such a high salary that under the current rules Toronto can't offer them the money they deserve. The richest team in the league being unable to pay players is absolutely absurd and the NHL has to change their rules.
Matthews is a centre. Plays physical. Can score 60 goals. Great defensive player, blocks tons of shots. Awesome of the faceoff.... Willy is a talented winger who can play PP.... and has a habit of being dogshit lazy about 33% of the games. If Matthews is 13.5, Willy is 9... 9.5 tops.
He pays Arizona taxes. He lives there in the off season, he’s also rich enough to have a good accountant to save even more of his money, probably only really pays more in property tax for his Toronto residence.
@@connorkenney6938 You pay taxes on your salary based on where the company that pays you is based man, not where you live. Property tax is a completely different thing.
I dont think the actual vibes are bad. I think they are not very good losers, and they panic sometimes under pressure. These new guys should inject some toughness and a different mentality. More room for the stars, more team unity, more guys who want to be here.
We Revo said that about bonding, my mind went directly to the Schenn quote about getting all the guys together. This is culture building
How many superstars does a team need? It clearly hasn't worked, 7 years and 1 playoff win. That's longer than the Blackhawks 2010s dynasty. Change it up, trade him already.
Adam/Steve: At eachothers throats
Jesse: Just vibing :)
Only on the nylander portion and already the beat pod from them in a while. Awesome job 👍
Beat pod? I'll stand by it
the Nylander segment was 🔥🔥🔥.
Dang this is heated
Adam never changes. He's delusional
Adam and Jesse are so far from being right about the Nylander thing it’s not even funny. And I am not saying that I don’t think the players deserve the money, they do. They are the ones putting their bodies on the line and playing the games, but to think that Nylander is going to just take less just because is just absolutely silly.
I think you're defending him because your name is William 😂😂😂
Yeah. Personally i think 11 mill is too much but after he seen Marner, Matthews & JT take every dollar why would he take a bargain? Marner and JT are hometown Toronto boys and they rinsed us so why should the random Swede take a discount?
@@8JFJK8 you realize that Nylander signed his deal the same year Marner and JT did, and he held out for half a season not playing he wanted to get every last dime he could... he's no hero. What they were saying is if Matthews signed first, and signed a fair deal, then he should too.
Also, discount or not, Nylander thinking he is worth 11 mill per is a god damn joke.
I think it makes sense that O'Reilly went to Nashville.....he is also interested in music.
Salty steve! Best podcast episode ever 🎉
adam, matthews getting paid 1m more than mackinnon is not a discount lmao...
I'm all worked up cause Steve got the salt POURING 😂
Mathew’s had less heart than bum tickling yourself with a plastic spoon 😂
Adam is right though, if matthews is serious about being here and sending message, he has to take a cut somewhere so the trickle down effect happens. Otherwise it won’t work to get them all back at reasonable numbers
Adam talking us down about him and Steven debating the same way my parents used to assure me and my brothers that they weren't getting a divorce after a heated argument.
Great episode boys!
Leafs are definitely tougher, maybe not better but it will be interesting to watch.
Here’s a thought, what if they bring Simmonds in the odd game on top of the others. Imagine looking across and seeing Simmonds, Reeves and Domi staring and licking their chops at you. There’s no team in the League that wouldn’t be scared shitless to do anything stupid. I would love to see that line brawl with those boys.
Cheers!
This Willy conversation is the conversation that broke Steve Dangle
Tavares was the biggest mistake ever, I would give up Nylander at this point to get some1 to take Tavares.
This would have been a great time to have Manscaped be the title sponsor again. Adam could have started with his shoutout of "Balls!" to get things going, because that's what the new look Leafs finally have.
Cleeks? You cliques (clicks)
Who is the Draymond Green of the Leafs? Lol
Steve was so insufferable during that Nylander conversation and I'm so happy Adam was calling him out. Good grief...
Yeah it was brutal and insufferable!
This whole Nylander discussion was highly entertaining 😂 ultimately I think all of the core four are overpaid (what have any of them won to deserve that?). They need to trade one of them, and Nylander is the easiest one to ship out.
1hr30 in I would like to say I am looking forward to what Matthew Kies turns into.
When u guys started getting a Lil pissy with each other at like 20-25 mins in. I loved it. Real conversation. Heated debates. It just seems like those 2 things are very scarce nowadays
Crosby 3 cups. $8.7 million
Nylander, matthews. 0 cups. 12 million!!?? Ok lol
Simmonds and Reaves would give the 4th line an identity
This is getting harder and harder to watch with Steve's ineptitude to listen to a counter-argument or understand the NHL all works because of a collective agreement, good or bad, work within your means. I see in the comments many of you enjoy, glad for you.
What's delusional is to not see that Nylander is worth $10m
Domi essentially won Game 7 for Carolina against Boston in the first round of the 2022 playoffs. That alone gets you fan favorite status even after just 33 games played.
Domi has said that he wants to be here long term to every team he signs at/ is traded to. No idea if every time he is truthful or just saying it.
But you will love him