And So It Begins! Shogun Episode 5 Breakdown
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Shogun Episode 5 Review
Shogun is finally here, and so far, it did not disappoint. Here we have our Shogun episode 5 breakdown review recap titled "Broken to the Fist". The story of Shogun centers on John Blackthorne, an English navigator shipwrecked in Japan. He becomes embroiled in the complex political dynamics of the region, navigating between two powerful daimyōs, Toranaga and Ishido. Thanks for watching, please like and subscribe!
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I'm noticing that there is a growing fandom for Fuji.
Fujiko was my favorite in the original show
Fuji is good but I don't know why people are hyping her way too much she doesn't do that much anything I like her some scenes but they weren't that impactful to me and people may be a hyping her just because she is cute and calling her waifu ( I really hate this word ) that's why and people are also neglecting Mariko's character to, which is very weird because her character is growing and very much complicated but people are not putting the attention to that but they are putting their attention to Fuji
I’m team fuji all the way !
@@jxhxhkzhjz8032 In my opinion I think people like romantic relationship, etc. in any type of story there is. While Mariko seems obvious as a main female character and love interest for Blackthorne, she is very complicated character and most of the time uptight compares to Fuji (who by the way has her tragedy as well). We often see Fuji in an uplifting way since Blackthorne has his house (I love when she points the gun to Omi scene). That brings the cuteness in the character, and a lot of people like cute girl and uncomplicated relationship.
@@peethasaccent I understand I have no problem people liking Fuji I also like her too but the fact that some people are calling her waifu ( I hate this word )and best girl even we have seen nothing of her as a character ( hope we see more in the future ) besides being with Blackthorn and some people neglecting Mariko and saying that she is not good as Fuji and not treating both of them equally that's my real problem and considering the fact that in this episode we get to know more about Mariko's past and the mystery surrounding the character but people just only see Fuji just because of her cuteness and not her character but I am excited to see what is going to happen next with both of the female characters and lady Ochiba to
I think Toranaga only laughed because he knows the real story behind those swords. And that he think John is actually sincerely offering those to him as respect to Fuji's father.
It’s funny on so many levels. Toranaga doesn’t know that John knows.
Poor John, he’s gotta convince people raised on Japanese food which is an S Tier cuisine to try his English Naval cooking.
The pheasant was funny until it wasn't 😢 Great episode!.
😂
Fujis actress is out of this world
Agreed. Every casting is amazing in this show and all the actors are phenomenal
Glad *someone* else saw that look Ochiba gave Toronaga 😅 she was either jilted and went to his house willingly or just wanted him to bow to her will 👀
Thank you, Smokescreen 👏😃
I am Japanese, but I cannot understand the way people thought in the 1600s. There is a gap between generations, even between parents and children, so it is natural that they cannot understand the feelings of people centuries ago. Some of their customs have been handed down to the present day, but less than you might think.
It is very interesting to see such a faithful portrayal of medieval society with its status system, which can be hard to watch. Japanese period dramas do not portray this much, so this drama probably expresses Anjin's anxiety and conflicts of living in a different culture.
A period drama from 1,000 years ago is being broadcast in Japan this year, but it has been modernised considerably for the broadcasting time.
Their customs have not been transmitted to the modern world. But we are the same people, so our feelings are the same. So I also watch this drama focusing on human emotions.
I guess it's very good idea to put Fuji as your thumbnail her eyes hypnotised me to click this video
There's something about Fuji that's very attractive.
@@danieldiaz698I agree. It is not just not her beauty, but her slowing becoming that “ride or die” type of woman to Blackthorne is amusing. Not gonna lie. You can see their respect for each other is growing especially at the end where Blackthrone was concern of Fuji’s safety after the earthquake.
It is simple... Fujiko is smoking HOT...and Mariko is the ICE MAIDEN in comparison... Interesting that, in both the 1980 version, and the 2024 version, Fujiko seems to be very attractive... IMO the lady playing the part of Fujiko, should have been cast as Mariko.....?
@@richardruff8712 No Fuji does not know English well
@@danieldiaz698 Actually, this matter has been discussed at length elsewhere... To briefly explain... The lady who plays Fujiko apparently cannot speak much English.... Guess what !.... Actors and actresses have to learn their lines ! ... She could have been taught certain sentences, and specific key words in English... Not an insurmountable problem...The other comment is that, the lady playing the part of Fujiko, was about 7 years younger than Anna Sawai ?.... Really ?... Like, would anyone have been at all bothered ?... I think that, if the roles had been reversed, we would all have been charmed by the very cute lady, and Anna Sawai could have used her ' Ice Maiden ' style very well, as Fujiko... Just my opinion...
Buntaro was married to Mariko for two years before her father betrayed the shogun.
That shot of the arrow whizzing by Mariko’s face… just stunning! 👏
Best show I’ve seen since the early seasons of Game of Thrones (or House of the Dragon).
Why is it important to show the arrow scene on 5 occasions.... One will do ?
Literally just finished it and your notification popped up!
Good timing!
I think the title is excellent, and Toranaga move of placing the canon regiment under Yabu's nephew is exactly what the title means, effectively putting Yabu under his fist. You see, if Yabu now wants to submit to Ishido, Ishido has doubts as to whether Yabu can be trusted since the canons which killed his samurai are effectively under Yabu's command through Omi. Yabu is damnned if he switches sides, and so is broken to Toranaga's fist!
Yes I wish this series was longer per episode but absolutely love it
I love all your knowledge of the source material, it makes me get more interested in seeing the shows you talk about that weren't already on my radar.
I honestly dont blame yashibe, hes just trying to maneuver in a difficult situation🤷🏿♂️
This episode felt like a movie! I was interested in this show already but after this ep i am hooked
Liked the show from the start but now I’m totally hooked! Thanks for the reviews because they always help.
Glad you like them!
Thanks for fast upload. I'm loving this show ❤. So happy you're reviewing it!
Glad you enjoy it!
As someone from nomadic clan ancestry of Turks of Anatolia
Blackthorne could've get a tip from Hacı Bektaş-ı Veli, one of the big mystics of 13th century Anatolian Turks, who mixed shamanistic worldview, Buddhist mysticism and Islam.
''Mind your hand, mind your body, mind your tongue'' is one of his key ideas about living around folk of different cultures. Not saying much ,not making bold claims and always considering how people will interpret what you say. In his days, Turks were taking hold of Anatolia, where a lot of christians with different ethnic groups were also living
Blackthorne is just blatantly saying words without understanding to whom he's speaking, bird was rotting there, he didn't even notice it. He was preoccuppied, not realising he had complete power in his own household, it's not a hotelroom.
Also I think the concubine to Omi who planted the idea that he should be lord instead of his uncle, yabushige, may also be an agent for Toranaga
Interesting. Definitely I can see her as a plant by Toranaga.
@@deliteful1991 He's not the type to just have one plan going, right?
@@Mizuma10000 correct.
Toranaga, has spies everywhere, Omi, better watch his mouth, and hope, he doesn’t hear about it
Note: the problem with the pheasant was not that it stank but that it was incurring defilement according to the Japanese religion of Shinto. That is also why "tatarigami" is mentioned several times -- a god that was angered or disrespected (in this case with the defiled carcass of a bird).
Yeah, I may do a video on Shinto and the Kami.
@@SmokeScreenVids Great!:) I think it would help the audience put some things in context.
Why did he even want to leave the pheasant there anyway? He knew it was going to rot?
@@julianbeatty2909This is my question as well. I don’t understand why John wanted to keep that dead bird up there.
@@niax782I was wondering the same thing and did some research on it. To skin birds and pheasants you hung them out so the body would shrink after. So he was going to skin it later. My "reaching thought" was when he was tell them, that if the mishandled the bird they would die from preparing it the wrong way. He didn't realize he was telling them they would die because his words held power. Just an idea I had
Fuji so cute!
It will be hard for anyone to flat out beat Toranaga when he is so far ahead of everyone... plus he now has European cannons. 💥I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I was able to put the pieces together that there must have been a time jump because J.B.'s Japanese is improving. Plus John & Fuji's growing mutual respect over the time-jump is very evident (i.e. he does not treat her like a sexual object, while Buntaro on the other hand ungentlemanly asks Fuji about being a consort to the barbarian). The show tells me Japan women at this particular time are not to be in a leadership role, so I am still a little confused about Ochiba's chances of a successful power-play even if she is the mom of the young heir-apparent? That aside, it is fun seeing her channeling her inner-Cersei Lannister! 👑
Toranaga's army just got washed away by the tsunami though. And the cannons aren't just European cannons, they are relatively newly developed English naval culverins which shot much further and with more precision that what most European armies were still using (mainly for blowing holes in castles).
These Shogun videos are epic man, keep it up and thanks 🙏🏼
Glad you like them!
I’m loving this show. My only complaint is that there are too many moving parts to it. Hard to keep track of who is who. The scene between Blackthorne and Buntaro is gold.
I am really liking Fuji, and her growing relationship with John. This episode, in particular, had great moments between them, that showed how much they are starting to respect each other. I hope we get to see more of this, and wonder if they might end up romantically involved.
We all love Fujiko...Very cute...
I like this series. Its taken me a couple play throughs in the earlier episodes to really understand whats going on but I really still dont know whats going on exactly lmao. Its a good show.
Just enjoy until the end... Then, read the book, then watch the 1980 version, then rewatch the 2024 version... It should all make sense then !
@richardruff8712 when I saw random 4 year old videos of history start popping up on my feed explaining the real life events it really sucked me in. The show gives a brief explanation of the political dynamic in the beginning but for the most part the show just throws you in it. No character development ppl already established etc. Just an observation. Iv looked into the history to try and better understand the show lol
One thing is certain: When Toranaga puts a person in a position, such as Omi over the cannon brigade, the recipient is forced to show his hand, as well can be closely watched. That person definitely cannot decline because will mean instant death in my mind. Toranaga is truly a puppet master- a Japanese Don Domenico Clericuzio.
Fuji is likely a spy for Taranaga. That's why she's being so cooperative & respectful. Plus Blackthorne isn't interested in her as a consort. I'm assuming Blackthorne has been there for a year or more. If he & Fuji were ever going to be an item that would've likely happened already. Also, the lack of bathing and rotting animals Blackthorne likes shows why Europe had so many plagues happening during those times. Also, Blackthorne had a firearm, not a sword when he went after Buntaro. That's probably why Buntaro chose to apologize instead of chopping his head off.
The son will not be called "Taiko". That was the name his father held as the retired Kampaku (imperial regent). His title would be something else.
Correct, I said the heir.
Thank you buddy !
Well noticed about Lady Fuji. Good review.
Glad you enjoyed it
This episode really highlights how Machiavellian Toranaga is. He is playing real life chess with these people. However, he has no control over nature.
Great summary. When the city was devastated, the footage was hard to see, but I thought it was a landslide rather than a tsunami. I was confused what was happening while watching it myself. I initially thought it was some sort of enemy raid.
Yeah mud slide I guess
Yes, to be honest, I don't think the footage is very easy, or clear to the viewers... In this aspect, the 1980 version was much brighter and easier to see what was going on... This 2024 version seems to be in a rainy environment most the time, and so much action in dark rooms...
He blamed it on the alcohol. But hit that post 🤦🏽♀️😆
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But I also believe that Toranaga sent him there to curtail anything occurring between Mariko and Blackthorn, even though we and he may know that something already has.
After all, if it's verifiable, Toranaga will have no option but to kill them or have them killed, which would truly throw a major monkey wrench into his military plans.
If he does not kill them, Bontaro, who is a mighty samurai and proved his loyalty by accepting his fate and staying behind for Toranaga, could defect and likely take others with him, especially with Blackthorn being a barbarian. Toranaga could have a mass exodus on his hands and seal his fate. After all, he already knows that he is outnumbered.
It's a delicate situation.
Old man could be still alive since no death scene was shown. 🧐
It's not about public face or anything between the remaining four. It's because each one does not want to give a reason for the others to kill betraying their master's last wish.
As for sepuku(harakiri), it is reserved for men only. Female's suicide is slits their own throat and is called Jigai literally meaning suicide. That is why the wife of a samurai carries a knife almost all the time. It's the same as the shorter katana, wakizashi hung by the samurai used mostly for sepuku.
I think the Tsunami wipes out his army not the village.
Buntaro only took about 20 days to escape from Osaka to Edo, then traveled with Toranaga to Anjiro. I don't think 6 months passed.
True, still some injuries. But I should have clarified since he arrived.
Great show, great vid. Chris you should play and stream Shogun: Total War or whichever is the latest version. I played the original for countless hours on pc back in the day. Rome and Medieval too. If you didn’t know about them, you’re in for a treat
I've been wanting to play Shogun TW
That wasn't a hawk or at least it shouldn't be. He does use them, but it's his falcons that her adores.
It's not about public face or anything between the remaining four. It's because each one does not want to give a reason for the others to kill betraying their master's last wish.
As for sepuku(harakiri), it is reserved for men only. Female's suicide is slits their own throat and is called Jigai literally meaning suicide.
A very good episode. Yes, I like Fuji too.
Just finished 10 mins ago! Good episode
I think Toranaga is really the taikos father. All those women and the emperor had no other children?
The taiko was much older, but if you mean the heir, I think that's highly likely.
Even in our culture it is respect between men and women that is the foundation of emotions between them. Is respect an emotion? Emotions are like the actions of nature, a falling cherry blossom or a Tidal Wave. But it is handled from the respect that is part of the eightfold fence space between the walls and can be used between men as a home's peace should not be disturbed therefore apology is offered in humility for that offence to the master of the house. Hereto, respect is the foundation as both men holding to emotion should have torn each other apart instead found a space between walls to discharge both emotion and show respect. While Fuji found space to act in her restored agency to exert control in being consort to a samurai - to serve as a samurai, again.
can someone explain why john hang the bird in the first place? is he upset with his gift and he doubles down on it or something?
oh he said to wait for it to mature. but what? thats not how you cure meat. im still wondering if he is actually mocking or what, im quite lost
Apparently it is to cure the meat, I looked it up and the decaying process not only makes it easier to skin and feather the bird, but it also tenderizes the meat. Although I think the temperature matters.
@@SmokeScreenVids It still doesn't make sense. You're supposed to leave it the meat in controlled temperature and room. The flies indicate that it was straight up rotting, completely inedible.
@@julianbeatty2909 Blackthorn is probably just dumb about such things. He was trying to bring some Englishness to the neighbourhood
im asimple man , i see Fuji i click
3:48 Those who know the later history can see that the crest of Toranaga in the background bears a striking resemblance to the crest representing the Tokugawa family in the real world.
In the books he says he loves Marko completely, likes Fujiko (her name is a little different in the book) totally.
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As a matter of fact the Anjin ends up being liked & respectec by many of the high born ladies in the story, even Lady Ochba likes him.
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Loving fugi
Smoke and a pancake.. 🥞
I can't understand why they didn't show his attempted suicide. It was his rebirth and everyone treated him as a n equal... They left out "The Hornpipe" too...
It shows what a complex person who isn't above a little fun.
Yes, two good points... ( I guess you have also read the book ? )... The attempted suicide would have added too much to the time limit to the episode... And as for the Hornpipe dancing, it was shown so brilliantly in the 1980 version, but maybe for the 2024 version, it does not look so good for men to be dancing, from the point of view of the Japanese audience ?
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The pheasant significance went over my head?
He was just trying to cure it
When you create a commotion in another's home in Japan that you are a guest in, you have greatly shamed yourself. And owe an apology to the owner. So when Anjin came out and contfronted him, he was WELL within his rights. Had Buntaro attacked Blackthorn, and won, he would have been executed.
As he is supposed to be a general in Toronaga's army...it would have been a waste...for a woman that is a traitor.
Am I the only one who see village and also the army camp which torronaga brought destroyed in earthquake?
Going to rewatch myself
Would do Buntaro dirty if he just survived in Osaka just to die in an earthquake
Smoke and a pancake.. 🍻
Lucky that they didn't do it like Marvel does with the NEW YORK huge ass words like we are dummies.
Team Fuji💪💪💪
Why did Blackthorne hang the dead bird outside of the house?
To cure the meat
@@SmokeScreenVids Rotten is not cured. Don't you need salt to cure?
Can someone explain to me why torunaga had the heirs mother taken from the palace in the first place?
For his own safety. Kept in his castle in Edo.
Uh... Where did you get the idea Ishido doesn't care about the Taiko or his rule? He's the main guy trying to maintain the status quo and uphold his will.
He's trying to uphold the status quo in order to rid himself of Torunaga. When Torunaga is dealth with, he will then focus his attention to christian daimyos.
It's not like he's really keen on letting a bunch of arrogant fanatics having a sway in Japan.
@@subutaynoyan5372 How he plans to handle the Christian regents doesn't affect his view of the Taiko though. Whether you think it's true or not, Ishido genuinely believes Toranaga wants to be shogun (which threatens the heir's position).
Yeah but what makes you think he actually does? He says it in public that he does, but we don’t really know his intentions.
@@vayne-he9yi He just makes that assumption because it gives him a justification to antagonise Torunaga.
Torunaga is playing a deep game but they're all just despising him for his lineage.
They expect him to weaken himself or else he's a threat
V from BTS was in this show?
So 6 months ? So Fuji is no longer required to be there ?
Just a guess based on when they said he would return
Toranaga wanted Fujiko to be the Consort of Blackthorne, for ONE year... But Fujiko agreed to be his Consort, but only for SIX months... It seems that most of the male viewers, would have wanted Fujiko as Consort, for life !!!
Team Fuji.
Also, sometimes I don't understand this Buntaro dude. Just weird vibe or it's his acting
As for the actors in the 2024 version, here are my top 3... no.1 is Toranaga, no. 2 is Fujiko ( very hot lady ) ... and no. 3 is the Erasmus ship !... Not keen on any of the others... Cosmo looks as if he should be in Stargate SG1, with Jack O'Neill and co... Whoever was the Casting Selector, must have been having a bad day !
Damn teenagers
The acting is fantastic, the settings and costumes really well done, and the cinematography is first class. But they've made a big mistake in the writing.
The issue with the 1980s series was that they concentrated too much on Blackthorne, and you didn’t get the full spectrum of the Japanese politics. This series has done the opposite - they are focussing on the Japanese side and minimising Blackthorne.
The problem is that Blackthorne is the heart of the story. His journey to understanding and embracing the language and the culture is the audience / reader’s way into the world. This series has missed out the importance of those scenes - as with the story of the gardener and the pheasant - and the audience is left outside the world it is trying to vicariously inhabit.
They’re also dumbing-down and treating the audience like idiots.
None of the main story points seem to have any nuance and the characters are too one-sided. Mariko has never laughed, she's always so depressed, and I really don't believe her suddenly wanting to pillow with Blackthorne after disliking him so much. It’s the opposite of GOT.
In the book of Shogun, the story of the gardener and the pheasant was a massive learning experience for Blackthorne, and also for Toranaga as they began to understand each other more. But in this series, Toranaga is just contemptuous of Blackthorne, and then Blackthorne miraculously redeems himself in the earthquake. Too simple and far less engaging.
And did they change the name of the village from Anjiro to Ajiro because they thought the audience would confuse Anjiro with Anjin? It didn’t confuse anyone last time around ...
I’ll continue watching because it has enough of the book in it for me to want to see the rest. But so far, I’d watch the 1980s series out of preference, as the storytelling was so much more enjoyable that I can forgive the lack of resources and the 80s conventions.
Absolutely perfect comparison... So far, I have only found ONE scene which is better in the 2024 version... The map drawn by Blackthorne is better, and easier to see how the Dutch fleet got through the Pass of Magellan, and across the Pacific Ocean to Japan... I thought the map drawn by Chamberlain was not so clear ? And, as for the actors in the 2024 version, here are my top 3... no.1 is Toranaga, no. 2 is Fujiko ( very hot lady ) ... and no. 3 is the Erasmus ship !
@@richardruff8712Absolutely right that the map was far clearer in this version, and I found myself understanding the geography much better! I agree with your rating of the actors although, for me, No 3 is Omi :D
@@fredsutton927 Thanks for the support... I was just joking that, in my opinion, the Erasmus ship has more personality than many of the apparently ' wooden ' actors !
Buntaro couldn't have killed all those guys amd he's not a runner. Wouldn't he just take his life?
Said he had help from some Ronin. Also, the Bushido code was fairly modern and not really adhered to as much as people think.
He didn't fail anything. His duty was to let Taranaga escape, not to kill all those guys.
Those Ronins mentioned are actually Toranaga’s subordinates. He planted them secretly in Osaka for emergency. So they are actually samurai but acted as masterless ronins.
S...S!!!!!
The show is slow af . I need some action
It’s coming I’m sure
One thing to note. I believe it was Mariko that the gardner knew his role to play.
When the spy was told to "find another spy", I think the gardner knew that he didn't have much time left and volunteered to not only take down to pheasant but also serve his "purpose" to his lord.
I agree