Lorica Segmentata

Sdílet
Vložit
  • čas přidán 9. 12. 2022
  • A church Christmas pageant became an excuse to try something new.
    Although the exact time at which the Romans adopted the armor remains unknown, it is possible that the lorica segmentata was introduced after Crassus' defeat at Carrhae in 53 BC. Another possibility is that the armor was adopted in 21 AD after the Revolt of Julius Sacrovir and Julius Florus. One form of the armor was used as early as 9 AD. Because the soldiers at the Battle of Teutoberg Forest wore the lorica segmentata, it must have been in use before 9 AD. Around the middle of the third century the lorica segmentata fell out of favor with the Roman army, although it did remain in use during the Late Roman Empire.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_...
    Images:
    vroma.org/vromans/bmcmanus/rom...
    mindhost.tumblr.com/post/1221...
    www.realmofhistory.com/2016/1...
    Music:
    Return Of The Hero - Soundmopi
    • Soundmopi - Return Of ...
    Track: Bloome - Daydream
    Link ► • Bloome - Daydream ★ Ch...
    • Bloome - Daydream ★ Ch...
    Lost in Translation - Steam Phunk ft. Lydia Ford
    Track: Shizaru - Lilac Fields
    Link: • Shizaru - Lilac Fields...
    Ben Tomer Ari - Alice
    • Video

Komentáře • 40

  • @ROMA-CYBER-pd4xr5ee7p
    @ROMA-CYBER-pd4xr5ee7p Před 3 měsíci +1

    🔴🔴🔴 ¡¡¡ GLORIA ETERNA A LA DIVINA ROMA , HIJA DEL DIOS MARTE Y DE LA DIOSA VENUS !!! 💜
    Es impresionante ver gracias al trabajo de ustedes , LA CAPACIDAS DEL INGENIO ROMANO , ESTA ARMADURA FUE IDEADA POR UNA RAZA DE HOMBRES PRACTICOS CON UN PROFUNDO AMOR POR SU PATRIA , nunca hubo ni habra una armadura como la segmentata .

  • @bakters
    @bakters Před rokem +6

    Great work. Your humility is touching. We need more people like you.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      Thank you. The whole process is a learning experience; fun but challenging; especially when stuff doesn't quite work out.

  • @ajibaroajibaro
    @ajibaroajibaro Před měsícem

    Excellent work, I aspire to as handy as you! 🙂

  • @joesierolon5171
    @joesierolon5171 Před rokem

    The look is authentic 👍

  • @NilsLindstrom
    @NilsLindstrom Před rokem +1

    Your passion and dedication are admirable. I especially like how you include your family in the project.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      It's impossible to not have kids around at some point; and they like being involved.

  • @southernfreediving9501

    Somebody spent alot of time editing video as well as building a Lorica. Very Good Job on both projects!

  • @user-eg6ze8jt7x
    @user-eg6ze8jt7x Před rokem

    это сколько же надо бло сделать таких же доспехов в ту эпоху если у римлян была такая большая армия я даже и не представляю

  • @valleyforge1264
    @valleyforge1264 Před rokem

    You are talented.

  • @Evan-rj9xy
    @Evan-rj9xy Před 10 měsíci

    Very cool!

  • @bravomike4734
    @bravomike4734 Před rokem +4

    The flexibility and the ease of movement from segmentation and lamellar overlapping armour allows parallels to be drawn with Samurai Heian, Kamakura and Sengoku periods. Only that the Romans invented them 1200 years before the Japanese did.
    Of course, not to say that 16th century european plate armour was too heavy or clumsy they were neither but these are great designs for their time and technology.

    • @bakters
      @bakters Před rokem

      " *16th century european plate armour* "
      That's like comparing a Ford T to a modern top level car. Segmentata was easy to make, hence cheap. They went back to maile at the first chance.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      @@bakters Absolutely. armorers could have loads of assorted hoops and then rivet and lace together to the wearer's specifications. I also love maile; but I don't have an hamata. maybe some day.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      While this was just a fun project and learning experience; I was pleasantly surprised with how well it moved around the torso. I cut a few shortcuts on the shoulders; which I think I why they ended up a little stiff. I've never tried anything Asian; maybe one of these days.

  • @pauloinventostube7533
    @pauloinventostube7533 Před rokem +1

    Ótimo trabalho 👏 sucesso aí irmão 🤜🔔🤛

  • @joesierolon5171
    @joesierolon5171 Před rokem

    Some brass fittings and hinges and leather instead of cord but looks GREAT

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      A good eye. Thank you. I want to make a set that's more accurate to history.

  • @LoLFilmStudios
    @LoLFilmStudios Před rokem

    1k views In two months?
    This needs more views.

  • @denvercolorado811
    @denvercolorado811 Před rokem

    VERY VERY COOL MAN

  • @bosseli9641
    @bosseli9641 Před rokem

    wow that's amazing, thank you for doing what you are doing.

  • @commenterminator
    @commenterminator Před rokem

    Nice! Really accurate work, looks great

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      Thank you. The pattern's reasonably correct; but I did take some short cuts in material, rivets, and other bits. But it was a fun learning project.

  • @jgoldenf
    @jgoldenf Před rokem

    Amazing job dude!

  • @winedarkemperor
    @winedarkemperor Před rokem

    That's some pretty great work.

  • @hannibal230
    @hannibal230 Před rokem +2

    From what i see it's already historically accurate i dont know why you say it's not unless there are minor hidden details that can't be seen then only you are the only one who knows.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem +1

      There are details I glossed over, and shortcuts I took. But it was a fun learning project....and dare I say it, inaccuracies and all, is still more correct than most Hollywood productions.

    • @ducomaritiem7160
      @ducomaritiem7160 Před rokem

      Except for the hinges, those are awful...and the loops for the front and back leaher thongs... They mustn't hinge.

  • @blackandgus
    @blackandgus Před rokem

    I wish I had seen this a few months ago. I don't consider myself an "expert" on Roman armor either, but I've been studying the different types for some years and have paid a lot of attention to details and construction methods used by the armorers in the old Empire. You may not think your work is all that historically accurate, but I really have to hand it to you for getting all the basics down, and you did an excellent job of shaping the rolled edges of the top girdle plates under the arms, etc. The overall look of the lorica would, I'm sure, please the legion armorers for quality and simplicity, and I think they'd be anxious to have you work with them. Some of the latter types of armor were modified greatly to eliminate a lot of decorative detail, and now I'm curious about your system of lacing the plates together. I'll have to go back to the books and see if there were ever any examples found of rings used. If there were none, I can't help but imagine that there were at least some replacement sets of lorica made in the field on campaigns that incorporated such. Very effective!.
    I am making some articulated scale model lorica sets using plastic and tin plate, but still keeping faith with the archaeologically sound examples discovered. My work is not "historically accurate" in all details, but it looks as though it is, right down to the suspension straps inside. And my only suggestion, if you ever repeat this project, is to add an additional set of plates at the bottom that aren't fitted with lacing rings, so they allow freedom of movement, adequate flexibility, and personal comfort. The bottom edge would be rolled, as well, both to protect the wearer's tunic from wear and tear, and to keep any belts (the cingulum) worn over the armor from slipping off. Hardly a necessary suggestion, but it would be an interesting experiment to add to your already magnificent accomplishments. I was really impressed, and it looks like you had some fun doing this project. I can't wait to watch some more of your work.

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem +1

      That's a lot of praise for a learner; but thank you so much. If you have links to any of your projects, you should share them; I'd love to see the results of your efforts, even if they are in process.

    • @blackandgus
      @blackandgus Před 11 měsíci

      @@noviceprojects6600 I'm sorry it took a while to get back to you. I don't have any posts on other sites where I've left some pictures, but some of the pieces I've made are in 1/6 scale, and they're all miniature representations of gear actually used by Roman soldiers, or people of other historical eras. The lorica segmentata and related accoutrements are all articulated like life-sized recreations, but I'm still working on making some better forms to press heated plastic over, which I smooth down with a rubber roller until it holds a shape that will closely fit against other bands. My first resin cast models just looked like copies of cheaper commercial models, but the ones I built up from individual girdle plates on a harness of polyester grosgrain ribbon look more realistic and move well. The plastic strips I use are all from (get this, believe it or not) cat food containers. I feed my cats Sheba cat food, that comes in little tubs with fairly straight, flat sides that can be cut and formed into the plates of a lorica. The plastic is flexible, so once the metal loops are fastened to the plates and the lorica is laced up, the plastic flattens out and looks pretty realistic. I paint the plastic with an automotive polyvinyl primer that any acrylic paint will stick to like glue. That's a painting technique I've used on plastic figures since I was a little kid. The PVC primers used back in the old days were only popular because they dried like a shrink wrap on metal figurines and any kind of paint stuck to it, but I discovered that I could use it on plastic 1" figures, and the paint jobs were almost indestructible. I'm still trying to perfect forming up the girdle bands so that they have more consistent shaping and mate together without any gaps. I'll get there before too long. Warming those plastic blanks with a heat gun and then rolling them against a hardwood form leaves a band that holds its shape pretty well, and when mounted on a ribbon harness, they look pretty much like the real thing. I'm also going to try my hand at using tinplate to make the segmentata, which will be nice to have in the collection, but I worry a little about them being too fragile. Only more experimentation will tell.
      Anyway, seeing you video and some other armour-making vids, helped quite a bit to clarify some ideas I've had about getting everything to fit better.

  • @eagleguy7
    @eagleguy7 Před rokem

    well done

  • @eugenerim
    @eugenerim Před rokem

    It's good Roman armor. Thank you!! And also make segments on your arms and legs. And of course the helmet!!

    • @noviceprojects6600
      @noviceprojects6600  Před rokem

      Helmets are tricky. I've made a greathelm and a spangen helm; and attempted to draw out a Norman helm from a single plate; but that's one heck of a learning curve.

  • @quincalleriaandres
    @quincalleriaandres Před 10 měsíci

    eres todo un otaku tu familia te ayuda con tus aficiones