Roman Segmentata Armour VS Medieval Brigandine Armour

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  • čas přidán 26. 01. 2021
  • A comparison between these very interesting types of armour used in ancient Rome and in the Medieval period in Europe.
    An armour (spelled armor in the US) is a protective covering that is used to prevent damage from being inflicted to an object, individual, or vehicle by weapons or projectiles, usually during combat, or from damage caused by a potentially dangerous environment or action.
    The word "armour" began to appear in the Middle Ages as a derivative of Old French. It is dated from 1297 as a "mail, defensive covering worn in combat". The word originates from the Old French armure, itself derived from the Latin armatura meaning "arms and/or equipment", with the root armare meaning "arms or gear".
    Armour has been used throughout recorded history. It has been made from a variety of materials, beginning with rudimentary leather protection and evolving through mail and metal plate into today's modern composites.
    Significant factors in the development of armour include the economic and technological necessities of its production. For instance, plate armour first appeared in Medieval Europe when water-powered trip hammers made the formation of plates faster and cheaper.
    Well-known armour types in European history include the lorica hamata, lorica squamata, and the lorica segmentata of the Roman legions, the mail hauberk of the early medieval age, and the full steel plate harness worn by later medieval and renaissance knights, and breast and back plates worn by heavy cavalry in several European countries until the first year of World War I (1914-15). The samurai warriors of feudal Japan utilised many types of armour for hundreds of years up to the 19th century.
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Komentáře • 558

  • @moreparrotsmoredereks2275
    @moreparrotsmoredereks2275 Před 3 lety +377

    Medieval armorers: even our cheap armor is fitted to place the weight on the waist, rather than the shoulders.
    Modern manufacturers, military and police departments making carriers for plates 3 times as thick: Nah, it'll be fine.

    • @irradix213
      @irradix213 Před 3 lety +43

      thank you, i've talked to cops who didn't get that compromise gets no one what they want

    • @34566454332
      @34566454332 Před 3 lety +18

      Labour was cheap, iron was expensive

    • @oranjeboven9622
      @oranjeboven9622 Před 3 lety +55

      @@34566454332 Iron was not expensive, high carbon spring steel was

    • @PJDAltamirus0425
      @PJDAltamirus0425 Před 3 lety +35

      Army size has ballooned to the point that we haven't figured how to such tailoring logistically feasible.

    • @BigWillyG1000
      @BigWillyG1000 Před 3 lety +40

      @@PJDAltamirus0425 That's one area where medieval soldiers or say even Roman soldiers had an advantage. Even the professional medieval soldiers like condotierre weren't so much issues kit as much as they were expected to turn their pay and loot into kit so getting personal tailoring wasn't that hard. Armor and weapons makers were as common a part of the camp follower train as food sellers and prostitutes. Even the "professional" Roman legions post-Marian reforms are commonly described as having equipment guidelines that any miles who could afford to upgrade on could do so. A gladius had to be X length but you could buy a nicer quality one than you were issued has long as it was X length fine.

  • @mrh4900
    @mrh4900 Před 3 lety +379

    Just trying to imagine being Raf’s neighbor and watching him out on the balcony... lol

  • @Johnny_Tambourine
    @Johnny_Tambourine Před 3 lety +122

    Neighbor - "Dammit Raf I told you to stop parking your Ballista in my spot!"
    Raf - "Testudo!"

    • @maximgun3833
      @maximgun3833 Před 3 lety +6

      Just imagine it all being shouted in Italian. Much better!

    • @jchen8792
      @jchen8792 Před 3 lety +3

      @@maximgun3833 even better: it all being shouted in Italian, with typical Italian "talks by the hands, to the hands"...

  • @karliikaiser3800
    @karliikaiser3800 Před 3 lety +169

    I think the medieval people had a stronger sense of fashion. The Romans did primarily want function whereas the medieval people did also want funktion, but status, appearance and fashion was more important to them.

    • @decus9544
      @decus9544 Před 3 lety +66

      That's in large part I believe because the Roman armour was equipment developed and distributed by the State, where they would want something functional and easy to mass produce. In the Medieval period people had to buy their own equipment, so would care more about the details. Actually if you look further back in history at the Republican era, the Roman armour also had a bit more character I would say, with more features that weren't entirely practical such as we see with the Italo-Corinthian helmet worn primarily by the Triarii.

    • @troydevol8760
      @troydevol8760 Před 3 lety +4

      I have one thing to say toga praetexta

    • @lucascastro2802
      @lucascastro2802 Před 3 lety +6

      "stronger sense of fashion" is a really relative term.

    • @asloii_1749
      @asloii_1749 Před 3 lety +7

      I find Roman fashion to be more appealing but that's my opinion

    • @michaelpettersson4919
      @michaelpettersson4919 Před 3 lety +4

      That is like talking about modern soldiers fashion sense when making comments on their uniforms.

  • @Francescomonti60
    @Francescomonti60 Před 3 lety +136

    Crush: do you know how to dance?
    Me: 3:05

  • @depressedcheeseburger3598
    @depressedcheeseburger3598 Před 3 lety +204

    With the vast knowledge this man possesses, he should make a full fledged documentary on a medieval topic. Heck, the entire community of swords should collab in one.

    • @OnlyKaerius
      @OnlyKaerius Před 3 lety +17

      So, him, Skallagrim, Scholagladiatoria, and Shadiversity? Lindybeige maybe?

    • @josephgallo5170
      @josephgallo5170 Před 3 lety +8

      Ngl itd just endup being a massive cringe fest

    • @omarabe26
      @omarabe26 Před 3 lety +8

      @@josephgallo5170 Why is that?

    • @depressedcheeseburger3598
      @depressedcheeseburger3598 Před 3 lety +2

      @@OnlyKaerius that's the dream team.

    • @OnlyKaerius
      @OnlyKaerius Před 3 lety +8

      @@depressedcheeseburger3598 Could also toss in Tod's Workshop.

  • @ktheterkuceder6825
    @ktheterkuceder6825 Před 3 lety +217

    I only have one question: when are you going to make that italian masterpiece cooking video?

    • @ctrlaltdebug
      @ctrlaltdebug Před 3 lety +2

      I mean, even Wranglerstar made a cooking video.

    • @TheMCcreepermen
      @TheMCcreepermen Před 3 lety +2

      I mean, even DragonForce has made a few.

    • @ktheterkuceder6825
      @ktheterkuceder6825 Před 3 lety +3

      @@ctrlaltdebug and to make things worse metatron is italian and there are shit ton of italian masterpieces of food

    • @cahallo5964
      @cahallo5964 Před 3 lety

      @@ktheterkuceder6825 He did cook pasta twice in his video about painting some figures

    • @ktheterkuceder6825
      @ktheterkuceder6825 Před 3 lety

      @@cahallo5964 Yes. But I want him to cook and shows how he does it.

  • @shadowrunner8014
    @shadowrunner8014 Před 3 lety +77

    *motions to the brigandine*
    This is brilliant!
    *moves back to the segmentata*
    But, I LIKE this...

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 Před 3 lety

      more like the other way around

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 Před 3 lety +15

      @Bold it wasn't abandoned by the Romans because it was badly designed...otherwise they wouldn't have used it FOR 300 FUCKING YEARS
      They just abandoned it for Lorica Hamata (roman chainmail) because it has less strain on logistics and maintenance and more comfortable for the soldiers

    • @muhamadsayyidabidin3906
      @muhamadsayyidabidin3906 Před 3 lety +2

      For me brigandine is more aesthetically appealing. Heck, even late chinese officer uniform are basically true studded armor. They just mimicking the outer profile of their brigandine, without actually had metal plates inside.

    • @steyn1775
      @steyn1775 Před 3 lety +1

      @Bold ok lol, believe the lies you tell yourself lol

    • @rango854
      @rango854 Před 3 lety

      @@steyn1775 End because of economic crisis that they had.

  • @MLCloneCODgamer
    @MLCloneCODgamer Před 3 lety +49

    Roman armour just has that "je ne sais quoi" that adds the sexy factor that nothing can compare with

    • @nicklab1927
      @nicklab1927 Před 3 lety +15

      Well, it's an iconic design, kept for quite long by a long-lasting powerful empire. It has some prestige attached to it.
      But I prefer the esthetics of the brigandine. The color contrast between the rivets and the fabric is really pleasing.

    • @toropazzoide
      @toropazzoide Před 3 lety +4

      @@nicklab1927 from an aesthetic point of view, the brigandine has the huge pro that since it's fabric on the outside it can be whatever colour you like, while an iron armour can have some variations yes but not nearly enough compared. I personally love the segmentata, but I just love the colour of steel and how shiny it is, if my favorite colour were, say, green, probably a green brigandine would fit my tastes more.

    • @nicklab1927
      @nicklab1927 Před 3 lety +10

      @@toropazzoide I don't know how long the steel would stay shiny though. Unless if you polish it and protect constantly (I'm quite sure the legions would have some sort of routine to keep their kit nice and clean).

    • @arkenarikson2481
      @arkenarikson2481 Před 3 lety

      Especially cause you can selfhug that little bit more in it! XD

    • @andreasolsson4539
      @andreasolsson4539 Před 3 lety +2

      Well they were italians. Off course they would want to look sexy. That's why they were always fighting with their neighbours. It's all about looking hot for those red haired fair keltic hotties and buxom germanic maidens.

  • @BNRmatt
    @BNRmatt Před 3 lety +18

    That is an exquisite looking brigandine. I've long said my character in my D&D game wears a brigandine; now I was able to send this video to my group and say "His armor looks just like this, only green." *chef's kiss*

  • @jarongreen5480
    @jarongreen5480 Před 3 lety +56

    We need more of the "Silly Hat" in videos. Anyway this was a very interesting look at the two pieces of armor. Honestly I really love the Brigandine. For my next Tales Of Orlen graphic novel I've been working on figuring out how to draw Brigandine's easily, because obviously with all those rivets it could quickly become a nightmare, I've managed make it kind of easy but at the moment it's still fairly complicated to draw so I think I'll have to limit its use to that of main or special characters so that I don't have to draw thirty men wearing Brigs in one scene.
    Thanks again for the video and have a wonderful day, Metatron.

    • @amirhosseinmaghsoodi388
      @amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 Před 3 lety +3

      According to Shad's video on the brigandine there were solid plate cuirasses(I think thats the plural) that were riveted to fabric and they had less rivets so maybe if you like that version's look and function you could try it on a richer character that needs to be drawn a lot

    • @jarongreen5480
      @jarongreen5480 Před 3 lety +5

      @@amirhosseinmaghsoodi388 Yeah I did end up going with the cuirass with less rivets design that you mentioned. Still pretty tricky to draw but definitely simpler :)

  • @livrasyt166
    @livrasyt166 Před 3 lety +81

    the last time I was that early, rome was still some town owned by the etruscans

  • @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight
    @TrueMentorGuidingMoonlight Před 3 lety +25

    The side by side comparison is beautiful! I love the yin-yang qualities of nighttime on the brigandine side, and daytime on the segmentata side, as well as the blue vs red coloring on your respective outfits. And the medieval background on the left juxtaposed with the ancient Roman artwork on the right is just so satisfying. 10/10, Metatron :D

  • @ScorpioMartianus
    @ScorpioMartianus Před 3 lety +42

    Glorious! I’ve been waiting for this one. I wonder which one you’ll prefer ultimately! My heart is definitely fixed in Ancient Rome, but the brigandine is exquisite. ⚔️

    • @TeutonicEmperor1198
      @TeutonicEmperor1198 Před 3 lety +3

      I love the CZcams history loving community

    • @magister.mortran
      @magister.mortran Před 3 lety

      Yeah, nice to look at, but impractical in the field.

    • @fuferito
      @fuferito Před 3 lety +3

      @@magister.mortran,
      Both of these are faithful reproductions of historical armour, so they were both _actually_ used in the field in their heyday.

    • @FalconWindblader
      @FalconWindblader Před 3 lety +3

      @@magister.mortran The brigandine was ARMOR worn in battlefields, for goodness' sakes! Watch the video before you decide to say stupid shit like that!

  • @marion_roberts
    @marion_roberts Před 3 lety +243

    I like how the brigandine protects a knight in battle and then can hold it's own on the banquet afterwards.
    Edit: Hi,Raf. If you're reading this, I think we found a next great topic for you to explore.

    • @Overlord99762
      @Overlord99762 Před 3 lety +7

      Doubt the nobles at court would see the brigandine as nothing more than a modern plate carrier

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 3 lety +31

      @@Overlord99762 I don't know about that, wearing armour at balls and festivities happened even after armour was abandoned as a military item. not saying it was definately done all the time, but it was fashionable to wear armour, or partial armour sometimes in the post medieval era. there is armour even specifically made for festivities and balls (that is too thin for protection and that we have records saying it wasn't for protection).
      so it happening in medieval times too would not supprise me.

    • @Overlord99762
      @Overlord99762 Před 3 lety +7

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 I imagine military leaders and d}such, like wearing a cuirass with the medals and all, but I have to research that, I cannot picture a knight going to a ball or feast clad in full plate.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 3 lety +13

      @@Overlord99762 oh for sure, but then again there was that one french hussar general that went to a ball in full battledress, horse and all. (if the tale i remember reading about is true, when i make these statements i tend to try and find them again. and couldn't in my relatively quick research, i feel like it was LaSalle. Edit 2: found it, yes it was General Lasalle)

    • @Overlord99762
      @Overlord99762 Před 3 lety +3

      @@matthiuskoenig3378 what an absolute chad

  • @spiffyracc
    @spiffyracc Před 3 lety +31

    The helmets look like they are gigantic sitting on your table closer to the camera

  • @richardmoore5347
    @richardmoore5347 Před 3 lety +74

    I will be perfectly honest, after seeing this, I want to see Raph try out a set of landsknecht garb now.

    • @rudiruttger
      @rudiruttger Před 3 lety +1

      Yes!

    • @cegesh1459
      @cegesh1459 Před 3 lety

      Reissläufer.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před 3 lety

      @@cegesh1459 : Wasn' t this used for swiss mercenaries?

    • @cegesh1459
      @cegesh1459 Před 3 lety

      @@brittakriep2938 You are exactly right.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před 3 lety

      @@cegesh1459 : At school we read the theater piece ,Wilhelm Tell' from Friedrich Schiller. There i first saw the word ,Reisige' and was rather astonished, because i knew only ,Reisig' as thin branches.

  • @marcelogonzalez8547
    @marcelogonzalez8547 Před 3 lety +5

    Listen to that music, he's not even hiding the fact this is armor porn.

  • @Ryan-dp4rs
    @Ryan-dp4rs Před 3 lety +2

    Love the production quality of this video! Keep up the good work, Raf.

  • @cliffordjensen8725
    @cliffordjensen8725 Před 9 měsíci

    Enjoyed the video a lot. Good job!

  • @eyesofstatic9641
    @eyesofstatic9641 Před 3 lety +2

    That beginning though... 👌
    Your collection is quite amazing!

  • @jamesmckay8776
    @jamesmckay8776 Před 3 lety +1

    Love your videos Metatron. Very informative and engaging!

  • @s.w.4409
    @s.w.4409 Před 3 lety +35

    Can you make a video about the coat of arms and colours used by medival knights, men-at-arms and peasants in an army? How would an medival army actually have looked like color wise?

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před 3 lety +6

      With the exeption of small bodyguard squads the ,fighters' had not been uniformed. Perhaps they had the same simple sign painted or sewed(?) on their jacket. When in late 17th century uniforms became common, there had been up to the end of colourfull uniforms arround 1910 in every army allways some troops, which had uniforms in other colours than usual. When now troops of the same army had different uniforms, it became a problem, when allied troops fought together, who is enemy and who an ally? For this reason, armbinds or sashes had been used, or simpler, the soldiers fixed, for example a little branch or a handfull straw as sign at their hats. I don' t know, if it is true, for a special ceremony the royal danish guard still apeares with some straw at their hats.

    • @s.w.4409
      @s.w.4409 Před 3 lety

      @@brittakriep2938 Hey, thanks for the answer! Markings like arm patches, sashes and so on make sense, but do we actually have any historical evidence for that? Unfortunately i wasn't able to find any...
      Would knightly orders be more uniform? For example the knights templar or teutonic knights? In modern depictions those orders always seem to be in pretty much one color scheme.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před 3 lety +6

      @@s.w.4409 : For the case, you visit Germany, in the town Bad Mergentheim , in state Baden- Württemberg there is the museum of the ,Deutscher Orden', because this territory was the largest one, they had after the loss of Prussia. When i was there in 2019, i remember that they had a kind of uniform in Renaissance Time, depending on the rank ( for example Komtur), but in medieval time i don't remember, if they realy had a uniform in modern sense, or only of similar style and colour. Also in the same region is a museum of the Johanniter or Maltese Order, i think in the rather small town of Kirchberg an der Jagst (?) .

    • @BigWillyG1000
      @BigWillyG1000 Před 3 lety +1

      As colorful as the average civilian population which is much more colorful that movies show. All but the poorest could afford dyed cloth and stuff like madder red or woad blue is dirt cheap. I think Skallagrim has a video on it.

    • @brittakriep2938
      @brittakriep2938 Před 3 lety

      @@BigWillyG1000 : But you perhaps don't know, but in Germany there had been ,Kleiderordnungen' ( dress-/ clothorders) in which was regulated, what kind of dress was allowed to the different classes of society. This lasted at least to 16th/17th century.

  • @ktheterkuceder6825
    @ktheterkuceder6825 Před 3 lety +3

    I ask for it. My man delivers. Great video.

  • @wolfancap6897
    @wolfancap6897 Před 2 lety +3

    My opinion about asthetics is that the brigandine wins because it has cloth on the outside, resulting in more varied designs and patterns while keeping the protection unchanged. The segmentata while it has a gorgeous design, it can get a bit old because its plates are on the outside so you can only get so creative without harming It's functionallity.

  • @phosistkar6425
    @phosistkar6425 Před 3 lety +3

    one thing that is worth mentioning in your comfort/mobility tests that may have favored the brigandine is you omitted any form of shoulder defense. With a high quality example like yours it's very likely that whoever was wearing it would have some form of defense for his arms as well even if that was just in the form of mail sleeves or a 3/4 length sleeved shirt of mail. plate options would also be appropriate for that particular brigandine but not always used. Cool video though, I really love that style of brigandine and the blue velvet with the brass rivets is a great color combination.

  • @jonfernandez8027
    @jonfernandez8027 Před 3 lety

    This was fun comparing two sets of armor over a thousand years difference! Thank you for sharing.

  • @alyssadeva383
    @alyssadeva383 Před 3 lety

    Kudos pure effort!

  • @Jazmillenium
    @Jazmillenium Před 3 lety +5

    Salve, Metatron! Nothing can match the peak aesthetic that is the Lorica Segmenta in my humble opinion, but both sets of armor you have are so GORGEOUS! Amazing and educational as always.

  • @johnspera8369
    @johnspera8369 Před 3 lety

    Hi M! Man you are so good; and precise with your explanations; much applause!!! Thanks.

  • @liger7275
    @liger7275 Před 3 lety +47

    I love the slightly porno intro.

  • @elcuencodelafelicidad
    @elcuencodelafelicidad Před 3 lety

    Great video.. keep spreading these wings 👍

  • @DLockholm
    @DLockholm Před 3 lety +13

    I've asked this question in another video but I'll do it again:
    There are a lot of different types for pretty much all the military equipment used by Roman legionaries, for example:
    Gladius Mainz
    Gladius Fulham
    Lorica Segmenta Coldbridge
    Lorica Segmenta Kalkriese
    The different variations of the Roman helmets from the Montefortino to the Imperial Italic
    That being said, what are the most effective types of variations for each of all those weapons? is there even a better version? If not, when is X version the most optimal weapon for Y situation?
    We need a lot more in depth videos about Roman warfare!

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions Před 3 lety +6

      All the design variations are more about manufacturing than effectiveness. I personally like the Mainz Gladius by aesthetics and you could argue the longer tip compared to a Pompeii could assit with piercing through mail.
      But ultimately its more about manufacturing processes and mass production for such a large Empire and Army.

    • @francesco3772
      @francesco3772 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ArmouredProductions not entirely true, even when equipment was issued by the state a lot of legionaries could and in fact would buy at least armour fitted for them, so the local manufacturers adapted their style to the preferences of the legio/nes which was influenced by what enemy they fought or by the specialization of its troops.

    • @ArmouredProductions
      @ArmouredProductions Před 3 lety

      @@francesco3772 then tell me the advantage of a Fulham Gladius versus a Pompeii Gladius.

    • @francesco3772
      @francesco3772 Před 3 lety

      @@ArmouredProductions ask the romans

    • @SuperFunkmachine
      @SuperFunkmachine Před 3 lety

      @@ArmouredProductions Better thruster, better tapering across the blade.
      The Pompeii type is parallel sided and has a 45 degree triangular tip, all made to make the swords easy an cheaper to make.

  • @ctrlaltdebug
    @ctrlaltdebug Před 3 lety

    Yes!!!!! I've been waiting for this.

  • @Obi-WanKannabis
    @Obi-WanKannabis Před 3 lety +6

    Both are state of the art for their time. Brigandine, at first glance, might not appear like a much better armour than the roman segmentata, but all it's little design improvements add up to something much more comfortable to wear, and that is hugely important.

    • @Obi-WanKannabis
      @Obi-WanKannabis Před 3 lety

      @Bold Mail is great but it clearly doesn't offer the same order of protection as plate.
      Mail also got abandoned in favour of newer armour, that doesn't mean it wasn't state of the art for a long time.

  • @Surrealiantx
    @Surrealiantx Před 3 lety

    Amazing comparison! I love the lorica segmentata at the end of the day, so majestic and badass

  • @fohat50
    @fohat50 Před 3 lety

    it's beautiful, in that colour in that kinda silk, you are very lucky to have the kind of support which makes it possible for you to obtain and then show us such pieces, nice one Metatron

  • @Vaedran
    @Vaedran Před 3 lety

    Thanks for explaining how the front of the brigandine works, I was really curious about that!

  • @JoseManuel-is4yc
    @JoseManuel-is4yc Před 3 lety +1

    I´m triying to figure out why you put Flamenco music, but I love it!

  • @silas__3994
    @silas__3994 Před 3 lety +4

    where can i get such a beautifully silly historically accurate medieval hat?

  • @trentweston8306
    @trentweston8306 Před 3 lety

    My comment is totally irrelevant but I wanted to say again how brilliant your Soul Calibur video is. Genius idea and a daunting level of work.

  • @irradix213
    @irradix213 Před 3 lety

    thank you Raph, i want to try to do one of these in modern materials and ballistic plate

  • @siekensou77
    @siekensou77 Před 3 lety

    these comparison videos are fun

  • @SigmarSich
    @SigmarSich Před 2 lety

    The best fashion channel :)

  • @Xerroc22
    @Xerroc22 Před 3 lety +1

    Very interesting comparison between the two. I see how the lorica segmentata is advanced for its age but the brigandine is put together so nicely and it is very easy to remove

  • @thebigone6071
    @thebigone6071 Před 3 lety +8

    Those Romans were clapping armored cheeks even back in those olden times! You da best ever Metatron!!!!!

  • @TheKunLaszlo
    @TheKunLaszlo Před 3 lety +1

    Hello Raff! First of all, thank you for your vids, for your working, I have learnt a lot. This is the first vid, in which I have different thoughts. As you mention, the brigandine is more labor intensive and requires more plates etc. OK, so this needed for the more tailored qualities. In the other hand from design perspective the segmentata was able to give the adequate level of protection, with much less components. If we consider the technologies of the periods, and the numbers required to sustain the armies, I would say from design perspective the segmentata is the winner. Easy to produce, much cheaper, easy to maintain, yet still tailor able for the individual solder till a certain level, and gives a reasonable protection, especially used with scutum. The other point is the weight of the shoulder protection. As I am not a specialist, but still can see, the difference is significant in protection. The roman piece covers more of the shoulder area, and lot of the upper arm, what brigandine is not.
    Maybe, I am wrong, but I would go for the segmentata, especially if I have to fulfill the needs of an army. Again, just design aspect.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  Před 3 lety +1

      As I did write but forgot to say, the brigandine can be supplemented with shoulder protection, which would be suspended through points, so you woulnd't feel them at all. Also early brigandines had a lot less plates, but in the late 15th century they specifically chose to increase the number of plates, because it gives more mobility and a lot more flexibility.

    • @TheKunLaszlo
      @TheKunLaszlo Před 3 lety

      @@metatronyt Firstly, you honor me with your answer. Thanks, I see the point. And understand why a good brigandine is a better piece of craftsmanship. But still the gear of the legiones for me. ;) Freakin' fanboy! Keep up the good work man, and Roma invicta! :D

  • @GiulioImparato
    @GiulioImparato Před 3 lety +3

    i think the reason they preferred to individually lace each fastener for the segmentata's front is because in case of blade damage with a one lace criss-cross tecnique you would find yourself with an open front in one go.

    • @andreasolsson4539
      @andreasolsson4539 Před 3 lety +1

      I was thinking the same thing. Also it's hard to fix when you're in the front line. Personally i would want to be as sure as i could be that nothing like that happens.

  • @mnk9073
    @mnk9073 Před 3 lety +1

    Amazing video as always my good man. One question: Is the corrazina with it's bigger chest plates simply a contemporary variation of the brigandine or a later stage of it's evolution?

  • @HeadCannonPrime
    @HeadCannonPrime Před 3 lety +1

    During the mobility testing I can't help being reminded about all those toy articulation reviews on youtube.

  • @angelmg8902
    @angelmg8902 Před 3 lety

    Mmmm...
    Love your vids, been following you since the very beginning, your channel has evolved in something way more professional and dedicated, but too many ads mate, watch out with that.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  Před 3 lety +2

      Thank you! And I dont control the amount of Adds

  • @darkmattergamesofficial

    Armor videos never get old

  • @SuicV
    @SuicV Před 3 lety +3

    Am I the only one that imagined that a deep low pithed voice would start describing the armor in the intro?

  • @Baraodojaguary
    @Baraodojaguary Před 3 lety

    I like your choise of music

  • @eyeballpapercut4400
    @eyeballpapercut4400 Před 3 lety +2

    At some parts you look like you're preparing for a roman/medieval themed adult movie

  • @Conservative_crusader
    @Conservative_crusader Před 3 lety

    Great starting music

  • @Slayer119988
    @Slayer119988 Před 3 lety +1

    When you brought up the point that a lorica would seem as ancient to a medieval warrior as the brigandine does to us, I thought of how *advanced* the brigandine would be to a legionary. The weight distribution, hourglass shape, plate connections and fasteners, and flexibility, just a few of many improvements over a thousand years. Propelled by science and driven by battle tested observations.

  • @HYSTERIA-we6fg
    @HYSTERIA-we6fg Před 3 lety

    Shad looses this brigandine show off the vivid blue you have is exquisite.

  • @wesleydecasere9832
    @wesleydecasere9832 Před 3 lety

    3:05 NOW THIS IS THE CONTENT I NEED

  • @lionofpersis
    @lionofpersis Před 3 lety +3

    Yo @metatron, I know you cover Romans a lot. How about covering the Roman/Byzantine rival of Parthia/Sassanid Persia? Give us insight into tactics, armor, weapons, etc. it’s a ridiculous amount of content that you can use and also helps understand why the Romans adapted to warfare on the Eastern front.

  • @Riceball01
    @Riceball01 Před 3 lety

    Great video, I never thought about how comparable lorica segmenta is to brigandine until this video. One thing that you should have done in this video was to compare putting on each armor like you did taking them off. To me, it looks like your brigandine would be a tad faster and easier to put on than the segmentata.
    Btw, if I may ask, how much did you brigandine cost? I'm sure that it's well beyond my budget right now and I have way too many other things I'd rather get with the money. But, if I happen to get the money, I'd love to get a set of brigandine like yours. As nice as both Matt Easton's and Shad's are, yours is far, far nice looking (in my opinion).

  • @thatonenerdwhoreadsbyhimse5429

    If I was a medieval knight, I definitely would were that during banquets or social gatherings. It's comfortable and fashionable, aslo a decent amount of protection.

    • @jonc2914
      @jonc2914 Před rokem

      It rusts and impossible to fix

    • @REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS
      @REALPEDROGAMEPLAYS Před rokem

      @@jonc2914 I guess so, but theres methods to combat both of thoss

  • @REX-gq6ur
    @REX-gq6ur Před 3 lety +4

    Meanwhile in Australia: "Mom! The polka dots man is outside again!"

  • @phoenixinvictus9880
    @phoenixinvictus9880 Před 3 lety +2

    Me just listening to this video: We now interrupt this historical comparison for a snazzy guitar number.

  • @BertzTriscut
    @BertzTriscut Před 3 lety +1

    Another benefit to the brigantine is that the outer fabric can come in any color or material, provided you have the money. Shadiversity's is maroon and I'm thinking of picking up a black one myself.

    • @nicklab1927
      @nicklab1927 Před 3 lety +2

      Scholiagladiatoria's got a black one if I remember correctly. Skallagrim has a green one. Lot of choice :)

    • @laisphinto6372
      @laisphinto6372 Před rokem

      go go brigadine Rangers

  • @j.d.j9574
    @j.d.j9574 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey just a cool suggestion can you make a podcast. I would love to see a podcast

  • @Alceste.de.Tôtes
    @Alceste.de.Tôtes Před 3 lety +9

    Le velours bleu de ta brigantine est vraiment sublime!

    • @Harrowed2TheMind
      @Harrowed2TheMind Před 3 lety

      Bien d'accord, et c'est d'autant plus le cas avec le contraste des rivets en laiton!

  • @darkxarchon
    @darkxarchon Před 3 lety

    I was thinking the inside looked a lot like segmentata when you displayed your brigandine the other day. It's like you read my mind.

  • @davidfletcher6703
    @davidfletcher6703 Před 2 lety

    I like that you included some Iberian music, lol

  • @powergaminggg8730
    @powergaminggg8730 Před 3 lety +1

    While watching the video few thoughts popped up in my mind.
    1) Roman legionary would look at Medieval Brigandine like we some kind of super-advance technology, they would see the difference
    2) technology progress matters, as Shad said in his video about Jericho sword - and how he suggested that the origin of 'magical' weapons and armors may come from technological differences. A steel sword facing bronze weapons and armor would look magical with it's ability to pierce them. A steel armor (especially full-plate) would look invincible by a previous era standards.
    3) You should've put normal everyday cloths moving routine near the other two with armor, for comparison.

  • @jeremywashburn562
    @jeremywashburn562 Před 3 lety

    I really like the copper alloy fixtures on the shoulders of the lorica segmentata.

  • @kevinhernandezretana2170
    @kevinhernandezretana2170 Před 3 lety +7

    5:44
    Metatron packing, huh? 😆

  • @UncleRJ
    @UncleRJ Před 3 lety +2

    Intro song makes me feel I am in a Dating Sim.

  • @sirduckoufthenorth
    @sirduckoufthenorth Před 3 lety

    You should get the brig that Shad bought, looked more mobile, nice and comfy

  • @joesierolon5171
    @joesierolon5171 Před 3 lety

    I would like to learn and see more about the spanish navaja and maybe the arms manual and it’s tactics 🙌

  • @hasselnttper3730
    @hasselnttper3730 Před 3 lety +4

    The Roman armor *looks* way better imo. It's so iconic!

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 Před 3 lety

      but with that blue velvet cover and brass studs the brigandine wouldn't be out of place at court during a banquet, if worn over a nice doublet, the lorica however would be totally out of place in a high society enviroment.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 3 lety

      it looks cruder, which has its own kind of beauty.

  • @Vercingetorix.Fantasia

    Metatrons neighbors:
    "Hes doing calisthenics in mid-evil armor, again... "

  • @stoneagealienz874
    @stoneagealienz874 Před rokem

    4:07 his face is like "fuck what did i do with the Brigandine again? ahh fuck it just do some moves"

  • @Eitan.moskovitz
    @Eitan.moskovitz Před 3 lety +1

    You mentioned it briefly, but I want to talk a little more about balance. In my experience with modern body armour, its elevates the centre of gravity. Its more difficult to stay stable while walking, especially on a challenging terrain. We where all traind soldier, but every few seconds someone fell. We walked with us a citizen, that wasn't wearing an armour, and he walked more easily than all of us.
    The armour on the shoulders in the segmentata probably elevate the centre of gravity a lot. I think that for long march, the bridandin will be way more comfortable.

  • @nantha7357
    @nantha7357 Před 3 lety +3

    I want more videos to begin with a guy in armour and sexy music playing ;)

  • @Ezyasnos
    @Ezyasnos Před 3 lety

    That brigandine is really lovely 'Valois'-style blue and gold :)

  • @srinjoyroychoudhury7034

    Can you make a video on legionary food and rations?

  • @herobrinesblog
    @herobrinesblog Před 3 lety

    I need that smooth intro song

  • @justinscott1691
    @justinscott1691 Před rokem

    Thank you once again for a real and authentic teaching of those armours, if only our modern war fighting generals, politicians and metallurgical scientists and material chemists could get together with you at the same time over a nice cup of tea what could we create. But then again maybe that's not a good idea, maybe you should retire into a small unknown town with your family and know that what you have done thus far is more then what most people would ever hope to achieve, you have always been a stable and constant reminder of not only what we were capable of , but whats possible now, and for those almost as smart as you , what's install for our future, please take time to take stock of all your works, your best days may still be ahead of you. Jus

  • @havoc1zero
    @havoc1zero Před 3 lety

    Love the music at 3:45

  • @mgunfighter
    @mgunfighter Před 3 lety

    perhaps you can do a comparison between your manchira armour and brigandine armour, cheers

  • @franortegaguardia8361
    @franortegaguardia8361 Před 3 lety

    Video suggestion: historical evaluation of the new age of empires II DE civilization, the Sicilians

  • @FirstnameLastname-py3bc

    Interesting will be comparing brigandine with lamellar armor

  • @dreysantillan
    @dreysantillan Před 3 lety +1

    3:04 i like this scene
    The brigandine being blue have blue tone bg and the lorica segmentata having red-ish or warm tone

  • @michaelmitchell8410
    @michaelmitchell8410 Před 3 lety +1

    Could you talk about different kinds of full plate and witch you think are the best

    • @plot6520
      @plot6520 Před 3 lety +2

      The one you can afford, affects your mobility the least and covers you the most.

  • @michaelsmith8028
    @michaelsmith8028 Před 3 lety +1

    The music in the intro makes me feel like it was meant for a different site.

  • @doms.6701
    @doms.6701 Před 3 lety

    When you have a fancy dinner party at 7 but needed for a battle at 8

  • @nerofoxkrell
    @nerofoxkrell Před 3 lety

    What would you say would be a good style of gambeson for alternative to use for say an 8th century set up preferably norse

  • @hic_tus
    @hic_tus Před 3 lety

    during the mobility test i was expecting a wild zorro breaking in lol

  • @Dragosescu999
    @Dragosescu999 Před 3 lety

    Hi there, Metatron. Could you make a historically accurate video on the Norse iconic characters? We would be forever grateful :D

  • @siekensou77
    @siekensou77 Před 3 lety

    overlap protection. nice

  • @Blondie42
    @Blondie42 Před 3 lety

    Your brigandine armor is more asthetically pleasing to me.
    If you stood next to Shad in his, even with his matching pauldrons, I would go with yours. 💙

  • @reybladen3068
    @reybladen3068 Před 3 lety +1

    Metatron really be setting up the mood with the music😂

  • @TheArcadianKing
    @TheArcadianKing Před 3 lety

    It would be horrendously anachronistic, but I'd be fascinated to see a hybrid of the two.

  • @ozansimitciler5781
    @ozansimitciler5781 Před 3 lety

    that intro music though.