AA vs. KK vs. KK For The FINAL TABLE Of The 2018 WSOP Main Event!
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- Phil Hellmuth makes history by winning his 15th gold bracelet at the 2018 World Series of Poker. A fierce debate erupts online about the final hand on the Main Event bubble, involving AA, and two players with KK. Joe Cada makes the final table of the 2018 WSOP Main Event, setting up a potential historic run as the first player of the modern era to win the event twice.
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Doug Polk Poker "seems like a fold". Lol
Doug, Phil has won 7 of his 15 After the poker boom and in large fields. Just facts.
Awesome video again Doug. Keep up the good work
@Doug Polk Poker One thing I was thinking is that if Labat puts Zhu on the range of aces (considering he jammed so large) he would still win a sizable put against Manion. Hope that makes sense and, more importantly, the correct way to think about it.
1:15 admittedly, "admittingly" is not a word. Good thing your 15th channel isn't an English language vlog. 😬
"Looking back on it, seems like a fold"
LMAO
Hindsight is perfect lol
Lmao i know right i started dying laughing
Postle could've gotten away from KK there...if the WSOP was broadcasting from Stone's....
Think Much? 😭
Honestly labat had a clear fold.
Idiot comment
Shut up Kevin
@@nsme6942 Please don't project your self hatred here. My random comment isn't the reason your mother hates you.... :)
How can someone like Phil Helmuth remain so humble after all these wins? Truly mind-boggling if you ask me.
anony moose evil Gandhi? 🤔
God bless Phil.
TheWoWGrind lol. Ma man.
TheWoWGrind evil Ghandi? From the civilization game?
Phil's patience and good sportsmanship are an inspiration to us all.
I’d love to see that 5th King come out 😂
Straight flush King high for Zhu
ever buy a deck of cards from the dollar store?
@@janvandeven906 9 of hearts and Q spades was already folded.
@@DavidSmith-rv2hw he was making a joke buddy you just cant process it
We play with a blackjack shoe now.
Liked how Lynsky folded the tens in about 3 seconds without the slightest grief.
He also laughed after folding. Look at his face.
Had he 3bet the open, he might have had enough information by the time it comes back for him to find the fold.
I think it is interesting that Mariah Ho is talking about folding KK, when she is now known for folding sets.
Leggo My Ego well it kind of makes sense
Reece Lightner what do you mean? Jw
@tommy lynch Reece is saying that if Maria can fold a set then it makes sense for her to talk about foldings kings preflop given the circumstances with 2 players already all in.
Have you EVER seen an Asian fold a set?
not just folding sets, but folding top sets
the best tweet in the history of twitter lmao
What an improbable chain of events.
The comments on this vid are amazing. Everyone's a pro when they know what the other players cards are 😂 😂😂🚀🚀🚀
Just like Postle......
You're the best at this type of analysis, Doug. I appreciate that you keep the poker channel alive with quality content.
You are doing Gods work Doug. After all, what is Doug really, but God backwards, with a little bit of u in it?
Does this mean that Doug is 75% God? Seems reasonable to me...
BW no, God is 75% of Doug
Boski, are you an alien? You're either my spirit animal, or the devil on my shoulder lol. You used to be my third or fourth favorite vlogger, but I'm pretty sure you've taken first place overall.
Maybe there's something in the poutine out in Vegas. Or is it something in the poontang? Don't get lost in the sauce, but there's a thin line...
Jeff Boski
"But god backward"
Sounds like your calling him a dog🤔
Bring back the Luke Schwartz graph
Make the Luke Schwartz graph great again!!!
congrats on 200k subs!
appreciate all the recent content! keep it up!
Content has become increasingly better Doug. That was a hilarious analysis.
I'm sure Phil will continue his history of sincere humility after this historic win.
SMaze17 Phil Helmouth: " I'm like the most humble guy in the entire world -- even when it comes to poker which needless to say, I'm extremely talented at."
Straight up humility
Hi Doug, I think there are factors specific to this hand that make calling good and that also make folding good.
The first factor is Labat's first 1.5 call. Is he doing that for pot control or to be trappy??? If it's to be trappy, then mission accomplished! Labat's flat MIGHT have gotten Zhu to shove light. And thus, if so, Manion COULD be lighter than AA more often. This spot can easily be KvJvQ. (exploitative)
Also, like you mentioned if he's good and wins here, he is finishing with top 3+ money in almost every simulation, the payoff is enormous. (theory)
Why not to call: apparently, based on the previous day's action Zhu was super snug so Zhu's "loose" 40 bb jam range is probably going to be way tighter than yours and closer to J+ AK and possibly AQs. He's probably not Jamming 9s or 10s, he's probably just calling. Maybe 3bet. Jamming is just a really weird thing for him to do here in general. In fact, earlier on the telecast he did the exact same jam with KK which got no action, but the players probably found out about. If Zhu's playing style is super nitty he's more likely to be over-jamming the goods like a 2005 amateur. (exploitative)
Why else not to call: the manner in which Manion went all-in. He's utg, the tightest player over-jams, and Manion took like 15 seconds before casually flipping a chip in. That's the live equivalent of checking the call box online, late in the main these guys think for eons if they actually have a decision. Ak and QQ needs at least a minute or two to decide. He didn't even bother Hollywooding JUST IN CASE Labat ever has specifically KK. It's late in a long session at the end of a long week of long sessions, it's as if Manion is saying "let's just get this over with and go to bed pls," because Manion is completely disregarding that Labat is sitting on a monster and not any ordinary portion of his range like JT or 55. Even Manion himself in the pre-FT interview the next night said "honestly I thought it was pretty obvious what I had." (exploitative)
Another reason to fold: Combined card removal, which you didn't really mention in this vid even though you usually do. If Labat has KK, then if Zhu has QQ then Labat almost never has AK or AQ. If Zhu has JJ Manion could have QQ. If they both had AQ the action would be completely different. The more narrow Zhu's range, the more narrow it also makes Manion's range and the worse it makes your kinds which is what the 2+2 guy is saying. (theory)
Fold: the amount of chips Manion and Labat have. It's too many to lose in such a dangerous spot at such an important time. If he folds he loses 2.2 bigs. It's like one of those times where it's correct to fold aces preflop at the bubble of a satellite. It's not the end of the world to let Manion and Zhu race for stacks, Labat is still 3rd in chips with a good seat draw for the next day. (theory)
In summary, calling is correct because he trapped and induced a squeeze. And folding Kings preflop is generally terrible almost always. However, calling here was incorrect because of multiple unique situational factors.
My biggest problem was that Labat simply didn't take enough time to decide. You yourself spoke for 15 minutes about all of the things to consider, but Labat called within 90 seconds. He didn't give himself the opportunity to fully consider what the hell was happening, he just went with "don't ever fold Kings preflop, you're not good enough." Which is fine, it's definitely winning in the long-run (esp online) but it was a once in a lifetime spot where he needed to go 1 for 1 but didn't. Cheers
Yeah I had no intention of reading your entire thesis here when I first expanded the "Read More" button and saw the screen begin to scroll LOL.... but I'm glad I did because it was pretty interesting. Good comment man (even if I am a few years late ;)....
dude, thank you again for another great video. I learn so much from these videos. Again, when it comes to hand analysis, you are the best.
The humor is just so fitting, love the timing. Great job Doug and keep up the fortnite funtages
Who is the female commenttor saying he should fold Kings,I would suspect Maria "fold sets on flop,flat AK on button to BB 3 bets,fold a flush draw with two overcards when getting 2/1" HO
I will probably cry after losing that hand w/ kings and busting the final table 😭
Looking back on it. Lmfao. Great way to end that video.
10/10
I feel like Doug should spend less time defending his analysis. It's perfectly reasonable, and people who don't like it can go watch someone else's. I'd rather just hear more about the poker.
Idk. A legitimate part of analysis is bringing up counterpoints and discussing them.
While God is 75% Doug, it's a fact that Polker is 100% poker. #PolkerHands
I think i would ever never go allin in a tournament if i'm not sure i 100% have the best hand. This Is prolly the reason because i'm playing Zynga poker in my bathroom taking a shit
Gabbiano, how did the shit aromatize? Describe her in vivid language. I wish to indulge in your Zynga experience.
you and phil helmuth.
@@musatebi486 che cazzo, cosa voi?!
Yeah and so then the blinds would swallow you up because you’d never make any money
This is a great way to almost never win or even make a deep run in a tournament. You should go all in in a lot of short stack situations where on average you are ahead of their hand (aka ahead of their range). Waiting until you have aces or flop the nuts is just going to mean missing out on massive amounts of EV.
I died at the "looking back on it" line.
Maaaan, no King on the flop... Shit luck.
0.0 % for the shortest stack's kings with his suits covered is heartbreaking
still 2 kings in the deck
The other two kings are in the other guys hand haha
Mark Jihanian running straight only so not drawing dead but very close
@@scabandecastro3337 3 queens and 2 tens were folded preflop too.
@@slimphotog If the table run lets say 2,3,4,5,6 it will split the pot with those 3 players If there isnt 4 same coloured cards to give anyone flush
Good hand, amazing video! :D
hahaha love your videos - "Looking back on it, seems like a fold" just died here;p - said with cold stone face:P
Lol don’t get old and tired Doug. I still love your content
I gotta say, I would have called too. But that's tourneys.
It’s quite simple: if you play to win as much money as possible, fold kings there. If you say i don’t care about the money i play poker to win. You have to make that call and hope to become chip leader. The way the hand is played, zhu could have QQ, AK or KK, manion could have QQ+. You might be in a good spot in the sidepot and you could even be ahead in both pots. Usually you will also have outs, so it makes sense to just go for the chiplead here.
Im here to get news about dnegs tbh
More of this Doug... mooore :)
Love your vids... much love from London ❤
If the rake is too high, it's actually better.
Why is Luke Schwartz not beasting the WSOP like he's beasting everything else?
/ Caxo / probably beasting it more than you
getting harder and harder to sell houses these days
+James wow nice diss Clark, can't believe you just got me. kids...
It’s not a diss I just find your childish comment ridiculous you may be laughing about Luke but he is 100x the player you, me or anyone else in this comment section will be
+ James You clearly don't get it. You're obviously not familiar with the joke. He once aggressively stated that he was beasting everything in poker and arrgh he was just beasting headsup and tourneys and blabla. Also he is not quite beasting the WSOP is he kid? And last very weak and unintelligent of you to assume almost 500 peoples skilllevel including me. I hope your day will get better
I do not even play poker, but I watch a good number of your vids Doug
ur gettin funnier man. good timing
Winning chips keeps you in the tournament longer than folding. A lot of people don't realize that.
What makes me laugh is the superficiality of those who want to fold KK. Do you know how sick I envisage Labat folding KK here and one of his opponents turning over an inferior hand? Why do people think it's not a reasonable expectation to see worse hands turned over?
@@onlyweatherlol93 I always mention KK also
@@onlyweatherlol93 Doug is spot on here. Sometimes it is your time to lose. Getting all in on KK? That is a positive EV against every other hand other than Aces. People are too focussed on outcomes. If you're all-in on a hand where you've got 50+ percent against the other dude, you're playing winning poker. Yeah, sure, runouts suck but you have to remind yourself that so long as you're getting all your bucks in at 50+ percent, that's a positive EV play. You don't have time to shit in tournaments, doubling up is why you are there.
This isn't entirely accurate. To win chips means you must risk chips. Risking chips means you can bust. Busting means missing pay jumps. This is a fundamental part of ICM: the value of additional chips in tournaments doesn't go one for one with dollar amounts. In general, ICM dictates playing tighter later in the tournament, when there are massive pay jumps that can be earned by just waiting around. There is risk involved in earning additional chips. People do overfactor ICM in the middle stages of the tournament, but by the end when the pay jumps are soon, they should all be cognizant that risking chips excessively can harm their ICM value.
Now I'd probably call with kings here (actually I'd have 3-bet, then folded to a 5 bet jam), because I've under-repped my hand and Mannion could be jamming worse not thinking much of my flat. That's what is not getting talked about enough in this hand. If Labat had just 3-bet, he easily could've got away from it.
So early I can't even watch the damn video
Imagine drawing essentially dead preflop with kings
Doug, that last comment. Ahhaha.... Looking back at it.. Dude you're a legend hahah
Yeah, I've seen the hand before. I'm trying to put myself in Labat's position, with final table on the line, and a significant pay bump. I think I fold my K's. I've got to beat TWO people if I call/jam, making my percentages of winning the hand greatly reduced.
But, unless they have aces, there's no reason to fold. Let's say they both have Ace King, or Queens, they play it the same way, as Doug explained. You are behind in only one situation. I think here the worst possible would be an Ace King and a pair of Queens, because that leaves 3 aces in the deck to beat you and one king gone. It's that or Aces, you really can't. Either player is doing this with worse hands than you every single time except 1 time.
Yeah but thats the reason your not at The main event final table
imagine having pocket kings and be drawing dead preflop
not completely dead....
99/20/04 Columbine Zhu was drawing dead with no flush draws since Manion have aces
Matthew nope could still get a straight and chop
@@Columbine-en3qc as dead as you can... just KK vs AA (same suits) vs KK vs QQ vs QQ (or JJ & JJ/ TT &TT, not Queens) can draw dead, but this is unlikely to say the least
@@Columbine-en3qc No he was completely dead. All the Queens were accounted for so getting a straight was impossible
hehehe, nice one doug.
Love, peace and happiness from the heart my brother.
Truly enjoy you analysis but love the sarcasm @ the end "looking back on it seems like a fold".
I was in the same spot in my first ever cash tournament and luckily was able to fold my KK. Never thought I would fold Kings preflop, but was the best lay down ever. AA, KK, KK, 99
you think youre some comedian or?
IT IS THE MAIN EVENT! BURR BURR BURR
BURR!!!
lol that bit is hilarious.burr burr burr
Lol I absolutely died.
"Ya know looking back at it, seems like a fold."
only doug could turn this into a 20 min video analysis.
You talk about "That time you folded KINGS"
... THAT WAS THE TIME!!
Teo G Poker Yep, stakes couldn’t be any higher to fold kings.
Teo G Poker You say that yet the fact is you could never find a fold in this spot... You literally couldn't.
Or it could be the wors fold ever. The fold that he would look back with regret and think "I could be the champion if I didn't let this hand.".
Phil Hellmuth is the GOAT when it comes to WSOP. I hope he wins 10 more.
Phantomgreen He only plays live donkfests LUL
he has a 60k pot online
I think he said he wants 24 before he retires.
Live donkfests? As opposed to what? Grinding your micro-stakes online with a HUD? GTFO. haha
Can you imagine if he was in Labat's position here?!!! He's already talking about heart problems.
Love this analysis. 👍🔥
Doug let’s face it, the poker community needs you. Start doing poker videos again.
Would have been so awesome if the clubs came and there was an 8 person final table.
Shadzilla does that mean the final would be played on November 8 instead? 🤔
I honestly have no clue. I cannot recall there ever being a time when there was a double knockout to enter the final table of the main, and I was really hoping for it to happen just cuz.
Love you Dougie, but it's "admittedly" not "admittingly"
admittingly works if we all know what he means
Go easy on our Dougy he's still an amateur
You're wrong, don't you think he should have had all of this written down , and just read this off the teleprompter and or had it memorized? one would assume he did go to College but I could be wrong most of the times I am. he's been doing this for a while so you can't call him an amateur, but then again maybe he just stumbled over the word, I'm sure we all do
you understood him so what's your fucking problem
He's obviously balancing his admittedly vs admittingly range here.
Lol.. "Looking back.." 🤣
What a cooler for your main event life....to be the guy who wakes up with the aces, no sweeter feeling - but to be either of the guys holding kings...sickening, this can be a very brutal game
Philly is proof that karma just doesn't exist
Deserve has nothing to do with it.
Why is that? Jw
Phil has done more for poker.than anyone.
This is actually deep. So very deep.
Karma does exist. Because Phil made amends to everyone, and was sincerely humble and repentant, he's at peace with the universe. Good things can happen when ur at peace with the universe
No lie Phil is my favorite! Phil loses hand: “Ten jack honey” this idiot puts all his money in with “10-J”! “That’s why I’m the best”
Love a lot of your analysis but man you went on and on this time
The artist formerly known as The Poker Brat now refers to himself as simply "The Icon."
rmx01indiana both names are fitting!!!
I can't understand why such a specific situation that you will never, ever be in again, needs to be GTO. It doesn't. Even going so far as to talk about other hands you "can have" to balance your range is ridiculous because this is the one time this will ever happen.
You know who would've folded? Phil "The GOAT" Hellmuth ...
Doug, you are a million percent correct on this one dude. Hands like this make snowmen look great
Sick man. Just sick.
Why is it the final table bubble at 10 people when they already consolidated to a 10 handed table? Isn't that just... the final table? I know there's a pay jump but it's one table and it's the final one!
Kevin Holt you have a good point, maybe because the November 10 doesn’t sound as cool as the November 9? 🤔
James Lourenco then why didnt they wait to consolidate until 9 were left? In a normal tournament it would be 5 and 5 until someone busts.
It's the main event, dude. It's not a regular tournament.
Kevin Holt They consolidate players at 10 handed call it the Unofficial Final Table. Then at 9 handed it’s the Official Final Table. So the guy who took 10th is not credited with a final table on his record, and he just bubbled the (official) final table.
Kevin Holt It is to stop time wasting and playing slow. One table can be playing normally and the other could stall by taking as long as possible, which is really unfair.
16:48 if you want to skip talking every possible outcome of the hand to death.
As a frenchplayer, I have to correct you Doug.
Mark Newhouse and Joe Cada are NOT the only 2 players who've made the ME FT !
Antoine Saout did in 2009 (3rd when Joe Cada suckouted him and won) and last year !
This hand happens like every 10 hands online LOL
I saw a AA/KK/QQ/JJ all in once. May have been TT as well but I don't remember. Was hilarious to see a triple/quad knockout
how much was he selling at again????
Sean O'Brien nice
Would be cool to play poker with you. Awesome videos. Good commentary.
I swear I've seen that room with the couch before but it was a much different type of video and it wasn't on youtube.
I think discussion like this is why I personally never play with ranges and graphs etc. Mind you I play 5/10 recreationally (lifetime profitable at this level) but I know if I was in that spot with kings in Labats shoes, I’m for sure folding. I play with my gut and what action has happened. I don’t construct ranges for myself or do any of those graphs per se- just theory. I know the Asian guy will shove tight. Almost snap call shows very strong hand. Aks+Kk+. There’s no way I would call here being on bubble of WSOPME. But everyone plays different which is why poker is beautiful.
Somes players are very aggressive on bubble. They know that peoples are more tight on this spot and they use this to steal chips.
Simon B I guess that’s the only caveat and I get the arguments for call. I’m just not going broke with kings at the brink of final table like this here
i just think doug is inputting the wrong ranges here
c4theNERD You could never fold KK in this spot, say it with a straight face and without being results oriented.
100% fold with kings ----> the player with AA call a 40bb push after 3-4sec thinking. He is no't going to call that fast with AK or QQ.
vazdas AZdas he had more than 4 seconds from when the guy shoved to think about it. Also if he was shoving AK QQ he wouldn't want to tank and look weak in case the guy behind had AK or QQ aswell. Doing it so fast actually looks less like aces, no hollywood is surprising.
If it was just Zhu in the hand, it is an instacall. However, when you consider 1) this is the bubble for the final table, 2) That Labat has a bigger stack ahead of Mannion, you have to consider that Mannion's not shoving with AK or QQ not knowing what Labat, who can knock him out of the tourney, has. Taking those things into consideration and that there is a possibility that someone could be leaving giving him a place at the final table; folding here was Labat's safest option. If Mannion had about as manychips as Zhu did, then I think it was a definite call. However, he had to know that one of them had AA, and as fast as Mannion called, it was most likely Mannion. Two people are going to put their life on the line this close to the final table with anything less than AA or KK? I doubt it
@James You don't think a quick call with that much on the line is indicative of KK or better?
ye, good point ---> "If Mannion had about as manychips as Zhu did, then I think it was a definite call."
synchronium24 a snap rejam is generally slightly weaker. People tend to hollywood a little with aces to get the overcall.
Can I post this link on the 2+2 forum to incite a theory vs exploitative war?
That's crazy I used to read Nerd E Trons poker goals and challenges thread all the time!
All of Hellmuth’s good play wasn’t along time ago Doug. He made 16 final tables in the last 6 years. Maybe you should put down the game controller and hit the felt. Have you given up at your young age?
There is a live stream so players do see how others play, and in a previous hand on the 10 handed final table Zhu didn't 3b AKs Vs an open and a call. So when he jams 40bb over an utg open and a call it seems he ONLY has AA/KK. When the UTG player rejams Vs Zhu he should have the same range, so overcalling KK here is actually terrible
He really overflatted AKs?? Link?
johan van til go to the main event live reporting on wsop.com and it's hand #168 on day 7
Doug do you sponsor people if they wear your gear? :)
"he practically LOST in the main event" lofl bhahaahaaaaa. dougie is so funnie
Yeah. Only $750K. Must have felt like such a failure going back to China.
does anyone else find it really annoying when he talks
I just come here to watch some good hands i always skip his commentary
Why would ZHU not just 3bet off a 40BB stack in position?! Like how tf do these crummy players make it this far is beyond me.
soccer123chris crummy players? The dude has 77 wsop cashes and 11 final tables, remind me again, how many do you have?
It's extremely hard to fold pocket kings.
Spot on Doug as always its the main you are never folding KK in that particular scenario!
Doug, did you say „suited aces“? Lol
Love him or hate him, you can't deny one thing - he is the best tournament player game of poker has ever seen.
Ephebophilio Chaoticus he would "do gooder"? WTF man
Right, it should be "he would probably do even more gooder"
Stu Unger, but drugs ruined his life and he died young.
not really, he plays more WSOP events than almost anyone else. if Ivey or Chan played as many WSOP events as Phil they would have 3x the bracelets. It's not like the baseball World Series where every team plays every year ... the really good players are playing cash + high rollers
its "do gooderer" ..sheesh
As much as people might think Phil Hellmuth is oldschool and kind of annoying.... because he is.... but the guy is a beast and an enigma.
Phil is awesome. He makes poker very entertaining. Like comparable to football entertaining.
He plays a roll for the cameras and sometimes his emotions get the best od him. Poker can be a stressful game and his tactic to deal with the stress is to let it out and cuss ppl lol. Anyhow, no doubt probably the best tournament player in the world today
It's the main event! Brr brr brr
Ok that Newhouse bit was fantastic
Yoo doug, i was at a homegame yesterday, and a pretty interesting hand happend. Would be interesting if you could analyze, what i did wrong there..
I raised in the cutoff to 5bb with
2 of clubs and 3 of clubs. Big blind calls
Flop is AcAsAh, he checks, bet pot, because i got backdoor flushdraw and backdoor straightdraw. Turn is the Kh. He bets half the pot. I call because folding is weak, and i dislike it. Turn is the 2h.
He goes all in, i call. He shows me Ad and Ah... ,my question there is: how sick is this cooler? I mean.. never seen 5 aces before.
I freaking always loose to such sick hands ffs
Wow man you were basically handed a license to stab your opponent and take all of his chips for cheating and instead you chose to complain on youtube? Weak.
uhm.. are you serious?
Should have 5 bet jammed with your triple merge range as a value bluff
@@yawgmoth5662 I'm dying of laughter rn because of that comment and this reply
It was an easy fold for labat. If one guy had an underpair (let’s say QQ Or JJ Or even 22) and the other guy AX (let’s say ak, aq, Aj or even a3) then labat has a 50% chance of winning the hand against two opponents. (The underpair has 20% chance and the AX has 30% chance), so at best he is flipping a coin against both opponents. Why play for seven days to flip a coin.
1. because it isn't a coin flip. KK is about 56% in that scenario.
2. it's poker. If you'd try to wait around for 7 days, you wouldn't make it past Day 1.
Michel Charbonnier But that is the best case scenario - doesn’t seem too attractive to me. And even Doug - who hates ICM ;) - admitted this is a tough spot for KK. If it’s that close of a decision folding KK here can’t be that bad. ICM is a huge factor here when you are sitting on a somewhat deep stack and there’s a decent chance the final table will be set after this hand. It’s definitely tough, I can see calling but folding is more than understandable as well.
Id flip a coin to triple up all day.
Michel Charbonnier 56% is as close as flipping a coin as it gets. I’m not saying to wait around ALL tournament. I meant in this specific hand and specific situation FT bubble. U can’t play the same way in every situation. Adapt or perish.
It’s obviously a very tough spot, but I think I would be folding here. I know my KK could be good more than 30% of the time, but with such a deep stack and a table i’ld be able to take advantage from in easier spots just makes me wanna let this one go. Looking back on it, it could have been one of the worse folds of my life, but I’m totally ok with that. This Utg guy is also snap jamming, and I think if he had QQ/JJ/AK it would have taken him more than 3 seconds, especially with the insanely high ICM pressure.
I don’t mind the call tho, it’s obviously not bad and in the end it’s a standard cooler, but it’s one of these situations where you can get away and wait for better spots.
Entertainment portion of the video starts @ 17:00
Wow does this guy like the sound of his own voice. Thanks to CZcams amiright
Just to pick up on what you said, Doug. Ben Lamb has two ME final tables since 2011 and got 14th in 2009 too.
Antoine Saout also finished 3rd and 5th in 2009 and 2017 respectively.
Maria ho is just bad at color commentary and she isnt even a pro so she doesnt really add anything to the team. Norm and Chad are fine by themselves. Shes to fake imo, on the outside and inside.
Fake enough to make it into the Poker Hall of Fame?
the womens hall of fame is verrryyy different than the actual hall of fame
really cool, productive, insightful and positive comment, jogb jones.
incel spotted
Adam Benghellab no surprised a bunch of cucks responded to me, assume im sexist cus im critical of a women. I respect many ladies in the poker world. Liv, bicknell, Fatima, xuan. maria only got the job cus shes got the required insta followers to attract idiot.(you losers who jerk off to her selfies) shes washed up in poker and realized she needs a new source of income.
Damn I was expecting an epic cooler.
Hilarious as always!
How do you get "suited Aces"? I don't know how things work.
But Doug IT'S THE MAIN EVENT BURR BURR BURRR