Big Brazilian 3k? Banda Electra Bass 3k1 Amp Dyno Test (4K)
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- čas přidán 21. 04. 2018
- Another Brazilian 3000 watt amp? Yep, this time it's the Banda Audioparts Electra Bass 3k1 (1 ohm version). We'll take a closer look at the design, compare to other Brazilian offerings from SounDigital and Taramps, then wire it to the Dyno for some power output testing.
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Always good to see these amplifiers being tested 👍
Not bad. Banda definitely made a cool looking amp that matches it's performance. I like the plexi where the terminals are. Nice little detail from Banda.
My boy bigdwiz did it again man thanks man for taking your time and going that extra mile to save us time and money.
Just doing it for my peeps 😬
Your marshmallow candies? Or ppl? lol :-P
A qualidade de montagem da Banda é sempre uma excelência!
Achei engraçado eles manterem aquele ajuste que os modelos mais antigos tinham, onde você mudava a posição das placas para modificar o crossover.. eles mantiveram a porta embaixo com um botão on off.. quem não conhece a marca fica sem entender a lógica disso, quando na verdade eles só estão mantendo a cultura dos módulos Banda
Nice, finally a Banda on the channel and a new model at that! I have an ICE3501 and barevids (UK distributor) tells me that this is similar but with a few extra features.
I have the icex 3k1 can’t find a dyno for it tho I’d love to see
Another great and informative video @BigDWiz
Thanks brother!
Dude with all the information you have gathered you should have a video where you rate all the amps so far and put them into categories
It’s in the plans. May hire a high school kid for some hours over the summer
BigDWiz ill do it
I agree, like how the torque test channel listed all review and dynos and prices showing best over all value. Let you download it for pdf
Another great video Big D! I have to say that I find all these Brazilian amps somewhat interesting, but I still can't see the appeal of these over more traditional designs that we're used to. With that said, I think I like the overall design of this one the best of any that you have tested up to this point. I kind of like how they incorporated the cooling fans into the corners of the heatsink. Pretty nice design all around. Keep 'em coming, Big D!!! Great job!
The biggest appeal is the size. They are not cheaper until you get to the 5k or larger amps
Thanks for the review brother. The Brazilian amps always seem interesting.
Those Brazilian outdoor public venues we always see look insane. It'd be interesting to experience how that display feels.
Making da ground shake yo! That’s got to be an insane experience 😱
there was a couple of them at slamology last year might be there this year as well
Black eyed peas has that song with the line "off the richta" pretty much sums it up me thinks
*You are the best, congrats on you vídeos*
Brazil sendo hell 👍
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Very thorough review with a field trip - Thanks
That ground shaking bass was impressive, yes??
Excellent test sir
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Very interesting Big D. Another great video!
Loved the footage at the end of all the subs pounding. Thank you brother.
How about some home audio stuff huh? Vintage if possible please.
I’d love to test more home audio, but way too much car stuff lined up right now...maybe in the future
BigDWiz A likely story. Lol
Thanks man. Keep up the good work. 🙂
Great video Big D!!!
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I love all your videos man! Blessings
Thinking of getting back into the life. I used to have a Soundigital 8K powering 2 DD 18s. That was around the time Brazilian Amps were just coming over. No one wanted to believe the power they were putting out because of the small wire inputs. I didn’t push it hard, but that 8K never got hot.
If I even go brazilian I will go with Banda and Powerus. Nice share DWiz. Peace and Bass!
Thanks for watching and commenting! 👌
No problem bro. Ive been Sub'd to the channel for a while now. Always hit the like tab. Keep up the great work when I want to see amps properly tested and real input. I come here or wait for amp test tuesdays haha.
Why banda?? Are they Better than soundigital for vocal??
Thanks for the video big D
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I ran the Viking series, version 1 amps about 6 years ago. Loved them things. Had a pair of 5k's on two 18's I built using Treo CSX motors, in a 6th order. I never had problems with the amplifiers, at all. Tried the v2 amps, and they were notorious for having weak solder points. Was a shame, lol...so back in the v1's went. I still enjoy Banda products.
Bummer!
Holy shit. That shock wave moving the grass at the end was awesome.
You know that must be INSANE in person!!
I use Banda in my car and recommend it. Good frequency response, good construction, good adjustments, it has the power it promises and it is beautiful. The disadvantage I see is that it is not as small as Soundigital.
Banda beautiful? Which model?? Not the beat version.
Which model do you have? I just ordered an Electra bass 8k
Unlike MC Hammer you Sir Big D Wiz are to legit to quit. As always
unbias, very subjective, clear, concise testing. Thank you.
Another great Brazilian amp. Thanks for the vid.
I failed to mention the fans never came on during the tests. Good sign the heatsink was doing its job
BigDWiz yep I think they have smart fans they only come on when it's hot. But my taramps hd2500 amp fan comes on as soon as the amp turns on
I like how you make conclusion.... @the end every body need to know.... Whats good & bad..... Awesome...
Thanks for watching and commenting! 👌
Big D I would like to know if the full range Banda amp sound clean? Please test one of them.
Hey Big D, another great video! Are you going to do a sound quality comparison video between the Banda, the Soundigital and the Taramps? I look foward for it!
SQ is subjective, not sure I can notice a difference between the Brazilians. That said, I do notice a difference with the Brazilian full bridge and the traditional Korean/Chinese half bridge designs. To my ears the bass is fuller, deeper and more controlled with the traditional amps
BigDWiz thanks for the feedback 👍
Big D!!! Have you ever dyno’d a Powered Sub? In particular the P300-12 from Rockford Fozgate....would like to know your thoughts and see some results. Love your vids!!! Keep up the excellent work👍🏻👍🏻
Did you do a 4 channel amp for the Banda Amps
I need this amp in my life 😁👍🏻
Well there ya go 👌
That's mean you need my address so you can send me this amp 😁😂👍🏻
A marca Banda aqui no Brasil se empre representou potência e qualidade..
That 4ohm efficiency!!! So nice :) Would have liked to see a 10hz test on it (with the switch on/off) :)
As large as the heatsink is, it’s a bit unusual you have to access a crossover switch in the bottom 🤷♂️
Brother bigd asking a question can a rockford punch 500.2 can this amp be bridge at 2ohms for mids an highs ?
Is the Dyno AD-1 reading RMS or peak power? I ask because in another video you ran dynamic mode with some music into the TP3116 and the reading went to 96 and stayed there.
All measurements on Dyno are RMS. The dynamic tests are pulse tracks, so you will see power jump up quickly on those tests. You can see the manual on DamoreEngineering.com for the AD-1 Amp Dyno if you have Q’s about the modes.
I love your black Seiko Monster. I rock the orange version myself.
Yeah boi!
is there an easy to understand how to calculate efficiency of a given amp?
Finishing amp rack for two Banda beat 3k one red one green. When I had just the one hooked up it was okay I just wish they made more aftermarket alternators for my do you have any suggestion on anyone that makes or takes old alternators and makes them bigger anywhere close to Texas?
Would you be able/willing to do a most efficient top 10?
Yo big d have you ever dynoed an old school crossfire vr1000d? I recently got a hold of one literally brand new with bass knob and evwrything. Its a korean made amp and im sure it put out its rated power just want to see how much it actually does lol
Love your show ! Quick question what four channel amp with a small foot print do you recommend for does Latin style voice box ( chucheros) ? And what do you think of them?
banda elite 3500
nice crisp vid!
Thanks my brother beats 🤙
Heyy Williston,
I truly love your videos they are very educational and interesting!!!🙂
Can you review the Banda Elite 4000.4
Im looking forward to buying these amp
So I curious as too the power rating and your overall opinion of the amp🙏
Would really appreciate it if you look into it .....
Thanks once again sir....🙃
Why you didn't put a Y Split rca so you could've used the left and right side for input?
Big D Wiz have you seen or heard of the Crunch PD3000.2 3000 Watt 2-Channel Pro Power Car Audio Amplifier Class AB Amp on Amazon? Its been a while since I've hear from the company. Was just wondering.
Crunch is now owned by Maxxsonics (with HiFonics, MB Quart and Autotek). That 3000 watt rating is a MAX number
Hey bigD do you have a video on specs of your power source on your youtube channel? I’m trying to get one going for myself. Thanks!
Planning an update vid. Currently (8) XS Power D1400 14 volt batteries and a PSC30 Intellicharger. I also have Maxwell Ultracaps, but not really using them right now
The clip of the crowd running away from the trailer while they're all dressed the same cracks me up every time I see it. Did you use your torx bit to cover up the serial number on the board? Pleeze tell me you didn't drop it into that high voltage amp by accident!!! Thanks for another great vid big D
I love that clip too. “get me outta here!” Yeah I just covered the serial number in a few pics 😊
BigD how about a video a PPI. Sedona Series S760.4 and Sedona Series S2000.1D. I have these both brand new in plastic in the boxes. I want to use them in a current build but want to know what to expect. Thanks Mike
Did you have a problem with preout voltage from the hu? Ik the older bandas didn't like higher preout voltages.
No problem with HU. This amp required gain all the way up with HU volume all the way up. Otherwise it would not reach full output potential. Most modern amps are set around half to obtain max output during the 10 sec test
In one of your videos you mention the bass from these Brazillians is "different" in what way?
I swapped my Sundown SCV 7500 for 2 Banda 8K, yes the 2 Bandas was quite a bit louder but sounded different, less aggressive than the SCV 7500. I wound up selling the 2 Bandas and a loss and waiting for a Wolfram 7.5K to arive.......So disappointed in the Brazillian on bass.
Was the clipping indicator in alignment with your clipping measurements? I wish all amps had accurate clip indicators.
I honestly didn’t check it that closely. These indicators are usually pretty accurate
I'll pass on the Banda, but great video! I appreciate the extra info, pros and cons, and your opinion. Keep it up!
I appreciate the feedback
BigDWiz Your videos have helped me a ton since I got back into car audio after a 20 year break, so big thanks for that! Now I own a Xtr 2500.1 because it was a beast on your bench. Never paid so little for so many watts!
Off topic BIG but what do you think about the old school Mb quart q series component speakers? I have a friend that just paid big bucks for a set and am curious of your thoughts.
Those are great. I prefer the Boston Pro Series, but the MBQ’s are way up on the list too!
BigDWiz Just found your vid of the eBay unused boston pro's. Nice find! Friend gave $750 for Mb quart q series new in box unused. That's pushing the edge of "focal" price in my opinion but...that's just my two cents.
How many watts is that infinity sub? I see you beating the hell out of it sometimes
Is the beat model good for vocals??
Can you do a amp dyno on the pioneer gm-d8500m I really want to know it’s true power
Amplificadores Brasileiros são os melhores, banda áudio parts/soundigital/Taramps bass 😍, tops de linha para sub grave ! 🇧🇷
Vai me desculpar mas com 60% de eficiência ... tem muito chão pela frente, não sei as linhas novas mas essa eficiência de 60% é um lixo.. até parece um amplificador classe AB kkkkk
thank uuuu thank u, u jst saved me from blowing $250 on this amp, u da man big D
I guess 4000w for $200 just isn't enough anymore 🤣
Hey BigDwiz my favorite Brazilian amp is the taramps are they reliable for long term use? Am excited about quality sound system in my rides, your test on amp has help greatly.....
That is the question...who has the answer 🤷♂️
Ok what is your amp of choice, i always used rockford fosgate for my set up never fail me once you know your stuff, just want to try something different with quality......... mmats but price high
I bought a Banda 2k and for some reason it makes a pretty loud high pitched beeping noise. Not really sure why but it will also pulse my subs constantly when I don’t have them turned up. Any ideas?
I also agree the sq was not that great. Comparing to my sundown saz1500 and jl slash 1000/1
Nice looking amp
That massive sound at the end of the video was amazing yeah!
Imagine in person!!
1.When i see a new BigDwiz release,I drop whatever im doing and put that sucker on.
2.Before I ever click play.I click "like"...youd think that would just be my default practice,but in reality,I dont click like for anyone else..BigD is the best!
3.Never trust a brand of amplifier who doesnt take the time to properly transcribe their manual/instruction leaflet.
4.Im already out of steam
5. refer to 1 & 2
Thanks brother!
BigDWiz what exactly does the bass boost knob do? would the amp produce more wattage if the bass boost was turned up maybe the manufacturer uses the bass boost to get the RMS rating?
@bigdwiz dont those brazil amps fry up on 14.4.. i am scared to buy one cus of that cus my truck has a powerful mechman alt... i be over 15v often
Some maybe, but all the ones I’ve tested can handle 15 volts just fine
Ive heard these are built better than Taramps?
Banda . This amplifier is the best in Brazil .😎. I have an 8000w and it plays a lot. 🔊🤤
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are they good for midrange speakers?
@@yan5362 It will play well too, depending on the power of your speakers.
the ideal would be for you to research the available models of the Banda line checking the powers of the modules to see which would be best in your system
@@andersonbrene9497 the banda beat 800.4 is available at a good price here in mauritius. Need to power 4 deaf bonce midrange speakers of 180 watt rms each
Two 12” 1500 Rms each one. Stetsom ex3000eq, Soundigital 3000.1 Evo 4.0, Banda Ice X or Banda Electra Bass 3K1? Let me know Guys..
You need to dyno a Hifonics XXV-Maxximus from back in 2005 era. 10kW rms apparently.
Id love to see any of the XX or XXV class amps from hifoncis back then!!
It’s definitely a cool looking amp
Hi BigDWiz.. i wanted to ask you,what do you think about kicker L7 subwoofer? or what would you recomend me for a nice clean bass around 800 watt rms.. i own a pioneer GM-D9601 and a kicker compRT 500 watt rms but i´m not happy with the output..what would you recomend me ? maybe you can make me a better recomandation for both sub and amp,for a clean loud punchy bass..i also don t have enough space for a pair of two 12s in my car, an audi a3 sportback.. thanks
Subwoofers are personal preference. I like JL Audio subs, but I know they are expensive. A single 10W7 would rock your Audi as it does my Accord. Maybe check local listings for a good used one? I got mine for around $200 used
BigDWiz.. Thank you BigDWiz :)
Can we get an update on the banda amps?
what is the song at the start?
My word, those unfortunate people fleeing in terror
Video was entertaining, as always!
Those vids are hilarious to me. At first they are all like “bring it on!” Then a few seconds later like “get me outta here!!”
carreta treme treme is a beast!
BigDWiz hahaha, stay out of drugs kids!
Social distancing ftw. I have to build me one of them walls.
BRA-SIL (in my best street fighter 2 voice) seems like a nice enough amp, but what’s up with the manual and website being different? Dats no bueno!
Honestly? I think the numbers in the manual were obtained at a higher frequency...not a “bass” one 😝
BigDWiz you’re probably correct!
BigDWiz or maybe it was burst
A bed time story about the cheater amp that could, would be nice BIG D ,I enjoy all your videos, nice work man !
Sounds like a great children’s book. Let me get to writing 😜
Where’s the in car test you mentioned in the other video?
Would love to see a Memphis amp on the dyno!!! Not much footage on Memphis amps that you can look up on CZcams
Brazilian amps are not on my top list Big D. Thanks for the testing :-). After seeing their demonstration wall of speakers, I wonder if they taken their technology from the US Military and the HARP program. LOL
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Tammy Forbes yeah if you look the the power supply transformers weren't glued to the board just floating. It was heavy gauge wires but they should protect it from vibration.
Im from Brazil, and Soundigital, Banda and Audiophonic is our best car amplifiers blend. If you like this Model, i can send you for less price direct from Brazil!
HARP!! LoL
@@ulisseshonor4784 how we now you not going to still money
I have a Banda 2000/4 it’s a beast
Can you make a video explaining on why they use single rca jack input and single rca jack output on these Brazilian and smaller full range amps. I have a sfb2000 that has the same issue and I'm hesitant to use a y splitter because I've never encountered an amplifier like this
Great question
Well they use single inputs because its quite common to use it with sound processors/crossovers that mixes the audio beforehand.
Very powerful especially for its size... Power hungry but still efficient
Daqui uns dias pode até testar os amplificadores do Carlos mergulhão e Luís Coelho 😄
My friend has the 5k one on two 15 sound good
Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹🇹🇹 watching
The best amplifier in the Brazilian market together with sondigital
Why are bass boost controls on the amp not recommended to use?
Typically bass controls on amps are at a set frequency and not matching the true frequency most people want/need boosted. Look for variable frequency bass boosts if you really need it or use an external EQ
I have radio 4 eqs going to a crossover that then goes to 3 amps all of them share remote and power, ground share distribution blocks and I’m getting no bass.
Great Test Mr D. How about temperature reading?
Cool as big D with sunglasses 😎. Fans never came on during Dyno or speaker testing. Other Brazilian amps I’ve tested (SD and Taramps) fan’s come on after first Dyno test
7:48 So what'd the difference between "1% mode" and "Clipping" mode? Clipping is a form of the general term distortion. So if we're talking 1% total harmonic distortion and we're using sine waves, how is that different from clipping? Me thinks a term is being used improperly here?
Amp Dyno distinguished tests between the two. The certified test stops measuring at 1% THD. Whereas the uncertified continues to the point of clipping and continues the test to see if any more RMS Power can be obtained at this point of clipping. With many amps there can be a significant difference in the results (4-7%), but most show 1% or less difference between the two tests
How do calculate efficiency? Also why are u clamping the negative instead of the positive
Current measured x voltage. Then take watts shown on Dyno and divide by the (current x voltage). Doesn’t matter which wire you clamp (positive or negative), same current flows through each
How this things make 3kw with nothing in it if you compare a sundown amp have lot more things in and same result
All I can think of when I hear Brazil is Sepultura/Soulfly. Not a bad thing!
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Can we please get a dyno of the soundqubed 4500.1? There aren't any videos on CZcams of this amp on the dyno.
That’s a pricey one brother. Stay tuned for an upcoming shootout of 3-3.5k Korean amps. It’s gonna be a shocker to some 😱
BigDWiz I'll work with it.. But I'm still looking for the soundqubed video.. Eventually someone will be just as curious as I am to see if those $734 are a must or bust!! 😂 😂 😂
BigDWiz Oh hell yeah. Looking forward to that one!
Shaun Jay we got 4300 rms clamped consistently inside and outside the lanes on a SQ 4500, wired to 0.5, rising to 0.9 at 12.2v. This particular vehicle was running a northstar agm34 under the hood, a 300 amp GP alt, and a single northstar smsagm80 (the 35lb northstar) as the entire rear battery bank accompanied with sufficient wiring. This vehicle consistently busted out of the 4k rms class in many runs until things were aligned and dialed back properly. Unless any parts qualities have changed since they first came out, this is what you should expect.
The new Soundqubed S line is a lot more reasonable. The 1250 amp is only 179. The 2250 has already been dyno'd.
Anyone know what to do with the single RCA? Do I just use a Y splitter?
Yes it is preferable to use a Y splitter so both channels are combined from the source
I have a question I have a MTX audio Thunder 300xd 300 watts RMS mono amp I bought it at the pawn shop for 50 bucks I can't find any vids on it I was wondering do you have any information on the quality of the amp
MTX makes good amps. Google should help you
BigDWiz thank you
Have ever ran any on the Dyno
Can you bench test a Memphis mcd1500?
Can you put 0 gauge adapter inputs on this amp ?
Not unless they are custom
Imma click da BigD link and get me some more fancy screwdrivers!
Yeah boi!!
You know id really like to see you test an old-school cadence acoustics amplifier
I think I tested one but didn’t make a vid. Or was it the one that popped? Yeah that may have been it
BigDWiz I'm just curriois if they make they're power ive been a cadence fan since I was young my dad had 2 tx series 12s on a 4k
@BigDWiz I’m a new subwoofer enthusiast, and I noticed you said do not use bass boost on the amp. Can you explain that to me? Or anyone?
Bass boost on many amps can add distortion. Also, unless the bass boost has a variable frequency, then the default boost frequency is usually not the correct frequency. In this case it's 45Hz, which may not be low enough for your application. Also, most remote bass knobs these days adjust the gain of the amp, not a specific bass frequency (and this is the proper way to increase your sub's volume)
BigDWiz appreciate it! Already subscribed
Keep the vids coming
@@wal seria melhor usar reforço de grave no próprio processador ou player ao invés de usar no bass bosst do módulo?
In the words of Ice cube, damn that sh*t is bumping. Shaking the dirt on the ground
No doubt!!
Awesome