Why is this 1000W $63 Amp BANNED from Amazon? [4K]

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  • čas přidán 27. 06. 2024
  • #AmpDyno #Amplifier #amazon
    This 1000W subwoofer amp branded Datasat N1 is rated to deliver:
    410W at 4 ohms
    600W at 2 ohms
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    0:30 Made By America?
    0:55 Unboxing the Amp
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    2:25 Inputs and Outputs
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    8:18 What's Inside?
    9:52 Banned?
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  • @darealestwon
    @darealestwon Před rokem +95

    Datasat doesn’t just make equipment, that’s the parent company of DTS, one of the biggest innovators in cinema sound. They make the audio codec that a lot of your movies use for sound

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +19

      Yes and I don't believe this product is an "official" DATASAT product. I'm waiting to hear back from them

    • @slycordinator
      @slycordinator Před rokem +15

      Datasat isn't the parent company of DTS. Datasat is DTS' old cinema division.
      In 2008, DTS divested themselves of their cinema division, forming the separate company DTS Digital Cinema. In 2009, it was purchased and renamed Datasat.
      DTS' parent is Xperi (a tech holding company).

    • @lyfandeth
      @lyfandeth Před rokem +5

      You don't MAKE a codec, you WRITE one. A codec is a software program.

    • @slycordinator
      @slycordinator Před rokem +13

      @@lyfandeth Are you saying that someone who writes a piece of software doesn't make it?

    • @darealestwon
      @darealestwon Před rokem +1

      @@lyfandeth we get all of that, I was making a larger point about the size, scope, and importance of DTS, now owned by xperi

  • @jordanciaramitaro6351
    @jordanciaramitaro6351 Před rokem +12

    It’s the same irs2092 iraudamp circuit used in many name brand amplifiers out. Great little amp, the ps fets and output fets are cheap and available. The irs2092 is unavailable right now for the average joe, but should hit the market again soon. Great amp that you could keep going for a long time with low repair costs when needed.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      👌😬👍

  • @wal
    @wal  Před rokem

    *it appears the amp is back in stock on Amazon. Not sure for how long!! See my affiliate link: **amzn.to/3bX79jC*

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      and back out of stock!

  • @turbokatzenburg5732
    @turbokatzenburg5732 Před rokem +9

    Datasat is the new owner of the DTS digital film sound patents. The AP25 was one of the last film cinema sound processors produced. Datasat still provides some support for legacy DTS film equipment, including the DTS-6, DTS-6D, DTS-6AD, and layer processors and film timecode readers. They also cover the DTS decoding on home audio equipment.

  • @wal
    @wal  Před rokem +9

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    *Video Index:*
    0:00 Intro
    0:30 Made By America?
    0:55 Unboxing the Amp
    2:00 Amp Adjustments
    2:25 Inputs and Outputs
    3:26 Amp Dyno Tests
    6:47 Subwoofer Tests
    8:18 What's Inside?
    9:52 Banned?
    10:47 Pro's and Con's
    11:29 Final Thoughts
    12:01 EXTRAS
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    • @ChannelZeroOne
      @ChannelZeroOne Před rokem +1

      I have bought a number of things from your links with that intent in mind. The ignite, Pioneer, Skar, and the JP8 were all purchased from your vids. I got the skar subs long before you tested them. Keep posting we love you. Talk to your boy JP about making a real bass head Bluetooth speaker and discontinue the over priced JBL clone.

    • @amadzack666
      @amadzack666 Před rokem +2

      could you measure the rail voltage on every amplifier you reviews next time? i mean you already open it to show us the guts, might as well probe the rail voltage on the diode legs too,i would love to see that thanks.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      @@amadzack666 Thanks for the suggestion 👌

    • @amadzack666
      @amadzack666 Před rokem

      @@wal thanks bigD for considering my suggestion,base on the rail voltage and data from your amp dyno,we know which section are the weaker point between power supply section and output section on every amp design.thanks again looking forward to watch more of your vids

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Available on Amazon again! (Affiliate Link): amzn.to/3bX79jC

  • @jimmy_jamesjams_a_lot4171

    They actually sheathed the leads on those FETs, but then it looked like they used construction paper for the little capes and toothpaste for thermal paste!! THANK YOU DOR SHARING THIS! It’s very educational to see you run those bench tests.

  • @charlesbarr3561
    @charlesbarr3561 Před rokem +1

    Another good one. I can't begin to tell you how much I've learned from this channel. So glad I subscribed.

  • @bojow8102
    @bojow8102 Před rokem +98

    Whenever Big D says "we'll talk about it later", you know it's going to be either very good or super bad 😆 Thank you D 👍👍

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +18

      Gotta keep ‘um interested 😊

    • @briank.2650
      @briank.2650 Před rokem +7

      Something you probably don't want to hear your Dr. say though.

    • @alphaomega8373
      @alphaomega8373 Před rokem +4

      There been some fair luke warm ones a long the way :D

    • @shonuff4377
      @shonuff4377 Před rokem +2

      It could only be good or bad though 🤷 just saying

    • @alphaomega8373
      @alphaomega8373 Před rokem

      @@shonuff4377 May favorite color is grey ⚖

  • @michaelzernie7092
    @michaelzernie7092 Před rokem +3

    Another awesome find! Love the videos man, always an awesome job 👍

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @justinshockley5684
    @justinshockley5684 Před rokem +5

    YES!!! The moment we've all been waiting for. Thanks Big D!!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Tfwac

  • @kalonsamulonis5782
    @kalonsamulonis5782 Před rokem +1

    Datasat N4 & N1 were both 1000W. N1 is for car audio.
    Thanks for posting this video. :)

  • @BlenderRookie
    @BlenderRookie Před rokem +130

    What a silly move for them to copyright infring datasat. They could have developed their own brand and word of mouth at that price and performance would have made them fairly popular, especially among the financially strapped.

    • @the_dark_defender
      @the_dark_defender Před rokem +37

      One must remember that companies that steal intellectual property and/or falsely market their products under another company’s brand name are looking to make as much money as quickly as possible, not the longevity of their business. They price their products very cheap to make a profit by selling a lot of units quickly before they are shut down. Then they start over again using a different name.
      Since they have stolen the intellectual property of another company, they do not have the expense of research and design.
      It is very common for Chinese companies who have been commissioned to build a product for a brand to make more of the product than the original brand ordered and then sell the exact same product at a lower cost undercutting the original brand.

    • @mysock351C
      @mysock351C Před rokem

      Given that its China, the whole thing is a ripoff from top to bottom. Its likely some company linked to the CCP wholesale stole the designs from a legitimate budget company that was manufacturing there, and decided to roll some knock-offs with the blatant logo thievery to put the cherry on top. Easy to make stuff for cheap when all you have to do is just bring a thumb drive to someone else's business. No R&D costs or anything like that. Edit: Basically a TL;DR of what he said ☝Still, its one reason I would like Dereck to show discretion in reviewing these types of amps and ensure they are at least a real company first. Giving some bootleg company good publicity just reinforces their profits and keeps the scam going.

    • @gregsuarez5205
      @gregsuarez5205 Před rokem

      China is where they are today because they steal. Almost all electronic components are manufactured in China . This is all supported by their government. If you design a product in some other country then send it to China for manufacturing, guaranteed, your design has been compromised/stolen. Countries should send their manufacturing to other places . Yes it may be more expensive but weighing against the alternatives of what this communist has done and what it now has the capability to do military wise , we should stop now. It might already be too late .

    • @TreesOnTheBeach
      @TreesOnTheBeach Před rokem +2

      This Chinese junk is probably going to blow after a week of use. And good luck with warranty service after that.

    • @AleksandarGrozdanoski
      @AleksandarGrozdanoski Před rokem +8

      @@TreesOnTheBeach warranty?! lol

  • @Bigislandguy
    @Bigislandguy Před rokem +10

    Thanks for picking up the amp I recommend. I had a great laugh at the box myself. I picked up this while browsing on Amazon looking for cheap amp with big fusing. I figured this out around 600 watts , who knew it would do more. Big D 4 da win.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +3

      Awesome 👏

  • @Coronado-nz7wu
    @Coronado-nz7wu Před rokem +6

    The work done inside the amp looks clean.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Agreed!

  • @thomasbartolome2595
    @thomasbartolome2595 Před 12 dny

    I saw the 4 channel amp demo test & bought one & took a chance. And it is working great still, almost a year later.

  • @fjb5894
    @fjb5894 Před rokem

    Love your art, your show, your work, your info, your humor….you be dizen my shizel!

  • @hvfd5956
    @hvfd5956 Před rokem +4

    Don't know how long you have been doing this. During the late 1970's up to about 1990, a friend of mine ran a car stereo shop (still does). During that time, he built several crank it up cars. We had a design we were going to put in an abandoned Rambler station wagon, but the shopping center had it towed off before we could do it. The design was based on the speaker that a company called LTV built in the 1940's to test the microphone used to record an early nuclear explosion. One of the cars he built was for a customer with a 1970's Chevy Monte-Carlo with the long doors. The owner decided to go all in and cut the guts out of the doors and put 2 15's in each door. 4-18's went where the back seat used to be. Since there was a little space left at the top, they through in some 10 inch Gauss for the mid-bass. In the truck were 6 Harmon Kardon CA-260 amps, with all but one bridged mono. A series of 5 inch across the top of the doors and some JBL studio tweets under the dash, rounded out the drivers. This was fed by a high end Nakamichi cassette deck with computer controlled azimuth and a high end ADS for equalization. The day of the contest came and we all drove to Dallas for the event. We get there and the same guy who beat our car the previous year shows up with a 1960 Cadillac Hearse. 7-1500 watt amps and a - no kidding 26 inch Woofer for the low bass. 2-150 amp alternators. Even with that, it still took 14 or so Marine batteries, just to turn the stereo on. Yep lost again, but just barely. The winner got a mini-pickup, but more importantly for the young gentleman, he got a job! A leading amplifier company hired him as an engineer.

  • @justinhiggins2210
    @justinhiggins2210 Před rokem +7

    The z44 power mosfet is arguably the best transistor ever in the car audio amp world. Due to their prevalence in many very good amps, including the early zed amps and countless others. Though there are many newer power transistors with higher performance they are a classic, timeless piece.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      😬👍

    • @kskate91
      @kskate91 Před rokem

      Nothing like the old Motorola brand mosfet they made a long time ago

    • @JusstyteN
      @JusstyteN Před rokem

      I think its one of the reasons why it has poor efficiency and big difference dynamic vs clipping. Those mosfets are pretty old and inefficient. I would change mosfets for something better and probably would see 1000w up to clipping if the transformer isnt saturating ofc.

    • @justinhiggins2210
      @justinhiggins2210 Před rokem +2

      @@JusstyteN yes, I did state that there were newer parts with higher performance. Efficiency being one of those parameters, I would probably put in some 3205s but years from now the z44 or it's crossover will continue to be used in amplifiers.

    • @JusstyteN
      @JusstyteN Před rokem

      @@justinhiggins2210 yea i still have a small bag of those for repairs.

  • @alanstant9356
    @alanstant9356 Před rokem

    Very awesome job on testing of the amp Big D. That really surprised me on those results.

  • @vladimir0700
    @vladimir0700 Před rokem

    I like how the output transistors aren’t even screwed to the heatsink

  • @h2opower
    @h2opower Před rokem +114

    I was shocked by this one as it did well and I thought for sure it would be like those other amps that straight up lied to us! Now only if they would have faith in themselves and come up with their own name, lol.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +4

      😝👍

    • @rahuldogra
      @rahuldogra Před rokem +3

      @@wal 2 30 Amp fuses ? Pulling 100+ ?? Somebody explain 😂

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +13

      @@rahuldogra yes it is possible. It’s the duration that will cause them to pop. They can handle 2-3x ratings for short periods

    • @MrGraywolves
      @MrGraywolves Před rokem +3

      No kidding. They could even up the quality of some of the "cheap" items mentioned...charge $75 and it would still fly off the shelf. Shame about the naming thing though...

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      @@MrGraywolves it’s back amzn.to/3QsWA6N

  • @mikegreen2229
    @mikegreen2229 Před rokem +6

    My teenager self from the 90’s would’ve been pissed I missed out on this amp for $63. 1000 watts was expensive those days! Woulda bought 3 of them just for spares!

  • @2down4up
    @2down4up Před rokem

    Digging the background music while running the amp in the dyno! Reminds me of Mass Effect.

  • @williamprentice9539
    @williamprentice9539 Před rokem

    I just looked and the 4 channel one is still available tonight. Somehow I missed this when it came out, just now watching

  • @MrDopey32
    @MrDopey32 Před rokem +6

    The case reminded me of a early 2000s alpine. Lol. To bad it was taken down, seems like a great budget banger. Great video and breakdown as always sir! Thank you

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin Před rokem +4

    Interesting bit of kit there. I have a Velodyne 150W sub that I've been running for about 20 years (not continuously). It's an 8" cone in a ported case with crossover. The box it came in is long gone and I have it right next to a reflecting wall. My question is, is it as nice as I think it is? Yeah, it is fraying a bit on the cover. But it shakes the whole house. It also cost a whole lot less than current Velodyne products.

    • @1oneguythat
      @1oneguythat Před rokem

      my boxes got smashed up but the one sounds decent enough, since the glue is holding up. they are cheap 12" passive speakers, so i use it in the house with a 200w car stereo (low power so a broke box isnt audible)
      . look at the corner of the box and see if you can pull/push the panels together. if the glue isnt holding and its loose youll hear it as the speaker flexes and shakes the box, making a god awful noise. shouldnt hurt the speaker any though.
      is the amp built into the speaker? might be fun to make a new box for the old active speaker. or find a prebuiltbox and fit the sub and amp into, idk.

    • @1oneguythat
      @1oneguythat Před rokem

      or make a box for the amp yea? xD idk that would be sick

    • @1oneguythat
      @1oneguythat Před rokem

      bro i took a piece of wood and glued it over a 12" whole. then fitted a 10" sub to said panel in place of the 12" speaker, giving it a bigger enclosure..... it sounded ok, needs a lpf though.

    • @Fudmottin
      @Fudmottin Před rokem

      @@1oneguythat I should proof read better. What's gone / going is the cloth on the front. The physical enclosure is fine. The amp is built into the same box as the speaker. It puts out an amazing amount of base for an 8" with no passive driver. Although my room isn't that big, it still resonates a good portion of the house because of modern home construction. When I was in an apartment, it nearly got me evicted. LOL.

  • @vanniproductions2849
    @vanniproductions2849 Před rokem +1

    I’ve been watching your amp dyno videos and absolutely love them! I was gonna suggest to dyno a nemesis audio amp! They’re are pretty popular here in West Texas, thank you

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the suggestion

  • @adampaffrath4299
    @adampaffrath4299 Před rokem +29

    Damn that amp was nice looking with the copper look on top and def could bump for 63$! It’s a shame it’s not around it’ll prob get sold on eBay now for 5x the price since big d did a video on it. Loved this and had those kickers slapping !🤘🏻🤘🏻🥇🥇

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +3

      👌😬👍

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před rokem

      If you love the looks of it just buy the Diamond Audio version. It more than likely has slightly more respectable performance.

    • @bamspay
      @bamspay Před rokem +8

      @@Assimilator702 That's a $600.00 dollar price difference. I doubt he likes the looks that much.

    • @danthemansrepreviews5644
      @danthemansrepreviews5644 Před rokem +1

      Psst available now om Amazon for $76 just got 1

    • @Assimilator702
      @Assimilator702 Před rokem +1

      @@danthemansrepreviews5644 You’re not afraid the amp will simply melt down? I've only messed with cheap amps once in my life and the result wasn’t good. I learned my lesson.

  • @shonuff4377
    @shonuff4377 Před rokem +18

    Hey Big D just and idea. Have you ever thought about dynoing two of the exact same amps? I know I'm curious to see how far they are different in power. I know I've bought two of the same amps and birth sheets be couple hundred watts different. (Kicker and fosgate in my experience). Just an idea something different

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +9

      I did this a while back with the Sundown SCV-3000. The results were amazingly close

    • @shonuff4377
      @shonuff4377 Před rokem +8

      @@wal what!! I missed a Big D Dyno video? Man I been watching you since you used to film inside the house on a little desk with old school amps stacked all around it.

    • @isidrosevier1125
      @isidrosevier1125 Před rokem +5

      Maybe do one that the company sends you to Dyno, the but one like a regular customer and see if the ones we get Dyno the same as the ones they send you to test.

  • @richpitty
    @richpitty Před rokem

    That box with 4L7 subs is super sweet I love those subs from back in the day I’m sure the newer ones are pretty sweet esp a box with 4 in there really like it!!

  • @RebursPsychogy
    @RebursPsychogy Před rokem +1

    Perfect sunday morning video

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @captiveimage
    @captiveimage Před rokem +5

    Would be interested to see the frequency response of these amps at various power outputs too.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +2

      Thanks for the suggestion

  • @bobgreene2892
    @bobgreene2892 Před rokem +11

    Although Amazon cannot inspect every prospective product pitched to Amazon by resellers in China, we might be curious about how long it took Amazon to come to its legal senses about Datasat-- especially priced as it was.

  • @djarcforceable
    @djarcforceable Před rokem +2

    Surprisingly good little amp for the money. Who knows if it would last a long time or not but for $63, I'd buy one.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +5

      I’ve paid more for dinner at Chick Fil A for my family

  • @rlevitta
    @rlevitta Před rokem +1

    Thanks for nearly breaking my eardrums for the woofer test using earbuds.

  • @kswis
    @kswis Před rokem +3

    Ya the advertising reminds me of poor translation on many, many other Chinese products, not like you could fit a sub in the box lol but bro, for the price. That's not a bad little amp. I don't remember seeing the legs of the mosfets wrapped in other amps especially in that price range. Def an interesting specimen brotha, thanks for sharing

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +2

      I thought the same although I didn’t mention it in the video! That seems like a higher end feature!

    • @briank.2650
      @briank.2650 Před rokem +1

      After seeing the first case of poor translation I tried to catch the next one before Big D pointed it out. Sort of a game. But right when he pointed out that both input & output we're labeled "input" I noticed that under them out was out but input was labeled "front". One would assume the only input could just be called "input". Google translator helped expose another fake 🤥

  • @pedroveliz4131
    @pedroveliz4131 Před rokem +8

    Crazy 😜!
    Imagine having 6 of them and 6 skar audio 600 watt rms 18’s for under $2000.
    God bless y’all!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +6

      Man you just gave me an idea 💡

    • @pedroveliz4131
      @pedroveliz4131 Před rokem +2

      @@wal that’s great bro I love your channel and if I gave you an idea you just made my day god bless y’all!

    • @Mr.Robert1
      @Mr.Robert1 Před rokem +2

      I would prefer to have one good quality amp , as opposed to six garbage amps. to each his own.

    • @pedroveliz4131
      @pedroveliz4131 Před rokem +2

      @@Mr.Robert1 I know exactly what you mean,I was referring to bass heads that have a certain budget and want a 6 sub configuration for a low price and take a risk that it’s not going to hold up.
      When I was in high school I knew someone that bought two 12 inch Sony explode subwoofers and a 1200 watt Sony amp and it was louder than a guy that spent allot more,but then we found out the other guy had inferior wiring lol 😂,I apologize for the long reply It’s just Mobil audio makes me happy 😃!

  • @Rs3abysss1
    @Rs3abysss1 Před rokem

    Nice , just picked one up brand new for 30 bucks at an auction going to power 2 punch 3 12”s with it Decided to go ahead and buy it after watching your video on it

  • @abdullah_fardm.9725
    @abdullah_fardm.9725 Před rokem +2

    1:55
    I still have 2 Diamond Audio amps, love them. Each is 2 channel.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      👌😬👍

    • @abdullah_fardm.9725
      @abdullah_fardm.9725 Před rokem +1

      @@wal Thank You Dereck, and I sent a message to your IG .

  • @KuntalGhosh
    @KuntalGhosh Před rokem +41

    The insides look okay. I was expecting crappy caps and used mosfets extracted from ewaste but those seem like brand new mosfets. Although in china they can extract parts from ewaste and make them look like they came out of production line the other day.
    I bought some used chips from utsource and it was unbelievable how good the cleaned those ic and ic legs

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +5

      😬👍

    • @johnhornbeak5735
      @johnhornbeak5735 Před rokem +2

      @@wal Did you notice how a couple of the legs of the I see were wrapped in some kind of condom have you seen that before?

    • @DieselRamcharger
      @DieselRamcharger Před rokem +6

      @@johnhornbeak5735 that is protective clothe braid. the two outside legs are your high voltage/high current legs. the middle leg is the "switched" one. If you think of them as relays....the braiding is to protect things from arcing to the heat sink in crazy conditions. probably cheaper than running a piece of plastic the whole length behind the mosfets. the chinese will cut ANY and EVERY possible corner to scrimp a penny. its how they sell these things for 63 bucks. 25% of which is import tax.

    • @especialistqap
      @especialistqap Před rokem

      Utsource solder new leg to used transistor and sell like a new with different number engraved with laser

    • @KuntalGhosh
      @KuntalGhosh Před rokem +2

      @@especialistqap i tested every part and they performed to datasheet specs. So i don't believe the parts have been faked like ebay stuff.

  • @PoXFreak
    @PoXFreak Před rokem +4

    Looking back at this, I see 2 weaknesses:
    The power supply MOSFETs and the output choke coil.
    Replace the 4 Z44n MOSFETs with something a little stronger and your certified/uncertified numbers might get closer to the dynamic results.
    The output filtering choke looks a bit small for even 600 watts at 1 ohm considering the 30 amps of output current available.
    I think if I could get one (change the name to "DataSnatch" for all I care), that would be the first upgrades I made.
    Too bad @barevids couldn't get his hands on this and confirm my theories...

    • @mefirst4266
      @mefirst4266 Před rokem

      AND THEY BLOWN UP IN 2 MINUTES GOING BY THE PEOPLE WHO INSTALLED THEM.

  • @positivevibes4966
    @positivevibes4966 Před rokem

    Love your videos would love to see you test the new ct sounds 2000.d

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for the suggestion

  • @MrILLryder
    @MrILLryder Před rokem

    Bid D! Is there by chance you could Dyno the PRV amps. I heard from a few buddies that they’re putting out a good line of amps. Appreciate all you do brother!

  • @2011joser
    @2011joser Před rokem +7

    The manufacturer made a bet that a niche company on the opposite end of the price spectrum would not notice its trademark being used. It lost that bet but it’s a gamble that often works for other chinese manufacturers. I would have bought that amp and the 4 channel if it had been as well priced. Thanks for another very interesting video Big D.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +2

      Yeah it’s crazy!

    • @danthemansrepreviews5644
      @danthemansrepreviews5644 Před rokem

      They also have products under the name plinius, which is like datasat, a actual usa company. a $15k a amplifier for home audio.
      I'm guessing they thought these companies wouldn't see them in car audio
      Plinius have like 8 amps
      Datasat even has a dsp amp!
      Have every type of speaker too
      I talked to the company
      N1 and n4 are still available on usa,
      I'm ordering 2 on August 10

  • @joeanderson444
    @joeanderson444 Před rokem +7

    I'd keep this amp. It'll be worth $65 in about 50 years!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Investment FTL

  • @halfmeout
    @halfmeout Před rokem

    Those subs are surprising slapping

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Slappin and Flappin

  • @johnebuckland
    @johnebuckland Před rokem

    Enjoyable.
    I am a fan of the copper look

  • @acts9531
    @acts9531 Před rokem +6

    The good news is that this thing would probably last about a week so maybe it's not so bad that you can't buy it on Amazon. I mean, if you have to be suspicious that the caps are carrying fake labels ... One of the reasons to spend more on known name-brand products is longevity. A $60 amp sounds like a steal until you have to replace it every couple months and the costs soon add up to what you'd have paid for something built better. Thanks for posting this video, it was very thorough and very interesting.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for the feedback!

    • @acts9531
      @acts9531 Před rokem +1

      @@wal You're welcome. I learned my lesson about this by buying cheap subwoofers that last 6 - 8 months. I finally woke up and decided to bite the bullet on a genuine Klipsch subwoofer that has now been in service for three years and is still working as well as the day I hooked it up. It wasn't terribly expensive and in the long run it's a *_lot_* cheaper than buying a pile of cheap gear at half the price. There are about 5 subs up in my attic waiting for the day I can either use some of the parts, repair them or chuck them in the trash. Those subs were all a loss financially, if I'd bought the Klipsch to begin with I'd be richer, happier and less frustrated.

  • @rjonzun5828
    @rjonzun5828 Před rokem +5

    I love these budget amp reviews but I wish there was a way to review their reliability/longevity. Easier said than done I know.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +2

      That would be cool. I like when car reviewers do this since many they review for short periods so good buy what about a year later?

    • @rjonzun5828
      @rjonzun5828 Před rokem

      @IamMike86 lolol

    • @primus711
      @primus711 Před rokem +2

      You could without speakers just use load resistors

    • @marcoperez7330
      @marcoperez7330 Před rokem

      Easy, buy one & go full tilt on it...It's affordable enough to do so!

  • @thethoughtmaster
    @thethoughtmaster Před rokem

    I recently bought a Lanzar Vector VCT2610, I have not tested it but it says inside the box it's true rating is 300 + 300 watts rms. It's for strapping so it will be ok for 2 x 300w subs and my second amp for the woofers at 250w per ch and 6" x 9" 125w per channel. Should pump when I make the enclosures. There are some bad reviews for Lanzar but I think they are pushing the amps too far and not testing their true output first, I will keep them to their lowest rating. Thanks for all your great video's.

  • @astro54541
    @astro54541 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s been over a year and I still have this amp running in my 4Runner on a Single 8” Hifonics Sub. Freaking slaps…and I’m not sure why 😂

  • @Ebacherville
    @Ebacherville Před rokem +3

    This amp is now back on Amazon for $70 as "Notherss Audio Systems N1"

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Yeah still playing games!

  • @TheElectronicDilettante
    @TheElectronicDilettante Před rokem +3

    It’s still on Amazon but under the “Crunch “ name for same price.

  • @Arthur-ke9vz
    @Arthur-ke9vz Před rokem

    Great video, as always

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @kmidst_kn6329
    @kmidst_kn6329 Před rokem +14

    At 53% efficiency isn't this thing going to get so hot that it fails some internal components? If so, then running at 1 ohm would not be safe.

    • @danthemansrepreviews5644
      @danthemansrepreviews5644 Před rokem

      I got mine 2 days ago...honestly my punch 601 gets waaay hotter... this doesn't get all that hot...I swear like...very touchable lol. Solid piece..I'm getting a n4 too just to keep before there gone

  • @user-cl2ls7kz7o
    @user-cl2ls7kz7o Před rokem

    Love the dyno runs. Keep it up! What happens when voltage is increased to 24v does it put out more and require larger amperes fuse?

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Most of these 12V amps will go into protect at 16V

  • @j.6756
    @j.6756 Před rokem +1

    I'd like to hear the cannon shots from the Telarc recording of the Cincinnati Orchestra's rendition of Tchiakowski's 1812 Overture... That's always been my bass response test.

  • @dewey7330
    @dewey7330 Před rokem +1

    Another great video!!
    I like this amp. Looks good,reminds me of the JL Audio amps. I wouldn’t use it at 1 ohm..LOL

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, it's pretty darn good looking... Like a colored JL amp.
      It would surely be overheating running at 1 ohm!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Yes I meant to mention it also looks like JL XD series

  • @olbluetundra881
    @olbluetundra881 Před rokem

    Dude a 1k amp for under a hundred bucks. Hat does rated power. That's impressive. Probably not the cleanest power but I bet for a budget banger it would sound good. Keep the vids coming.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @johndavies1843
    @johndavies1843 Před rokem

    I like the old "California Profile" Amps.. Cheaper circuits than a PPI, but same breadboard design..

  • @Chris-tu3xx
    @Chris-tu3xx Před 11 měsíci

    Interesting. I wish I had one of these when I was in high school. I would run stereo 25w on a 12 inch cerwin vega back in the day and I thought that was cool.

  • @1deadly187
    @1deadly187 Před rokem +1

    About half way through what is another great video Big D, and I'm thinking this thing is amazing for a sub $100 amp. Now I will get back to the last half of the video and see what happens..

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Sorry it’s so long but I had a lot to cover here 😬

  • @milescrissey1366
    @milescrissey1366 Před rokem +1

    Big D! I just ordered one of these off of Amazon for $70!

    • @swaybelly3212
      @swaybelly3212 Před rokem +1

      Same here! Under the name "Notherss".....

  • @ChippyOutdoors
    @ChippyOutdoors Před rokem

    I have found the n4 but no luck on the n1 I'd be willing to give this go. Been years being out-of car audio butnlack of thump in my truck I'm putting one together

  • @TheWarped45
    @TheWarped45 Před rokem

    As a tech this amp is class D those IR hexfets.

  • @airdreams1
    @airdreams1 Před 6 měsíci

    I wish I could luck onto something like this. Being on a fixed income sucks when you love having a decent sound system. Need a new amp but everything I look at is just outside my price range

  • @jtveg
    @jtveg Před rokem

    Thanks for sharing. 😉👌🏻

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Back in stock, maybe different brand. See pinned comment

  • @grocerygetter100
    @grocerygetter100 Před rokem

    Love the videos, Big D! Been a bass head since the 90s. Now I'm an electrical engineer!
    Are you in Williston, Florida? I'd love to see your lab and see for myself, Do It Bump Doe?!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Nawsa last name is my company name 😊

  • @chloeleedow7250
    @chloeleedow7250 Před 7 měsíci

    The terminal side of the amp layout is quiet similar to an old Pioneer PRSD1200M I have lol

  • @absalonw007
    @absalonw007 Před rokem

    Bought 2 one for daughter and one just because. Hooked up daughters at 1 ohm and after 3 minutes or so higher volume blew fuse twice so switched out with the just because one i had and it did the same so doesn't look like it like 1ohm. Sounded good while it played.

  • @farhankhan-dh2tu
    @farhankhan-dh2tu Před rokem

    Thanks 🌹 we appreciate ur hard working and investigating on such cheap amps ... Bringing the truth to us

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @DouglasHeyen
    @DouglasHeyen Před rokem

    Haha. Noticed you upped the fuses to 40s. Was curious how it would produce the proper wattage if it doesn't have enough amps coming in. Nice review. Just goes to show you don't always get what you pay for. In this rare case you got way more.bang for your buck. Thanks for the info

  • @Redmist370Z
    @Redmist370Z Před rokem +1

    As of August 19, 2022 they are available on Amazon. I purchased one last night . You’re just going to need to dig a little bit as they don’t come up in the multichannel amp section.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      I updated both the pinned comment as well as video description 2 days ago with this info 👌

  • @gillespage5489
    @gillespage5489 Před rokem

    LOL that App picture is my Radio Shack Boom Box from the 80's

  • @calholli
    @calholli Před rokem

    I still have my L7 Solo Baric 12" that I bought in the 90's. lol

  • @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn
    @fattnnvxbhjnccnvvcyn Před rokem

    Have you done a clamp test on a Power Acoustik Razor RZ5-2500D?

  • @anthonybrown6143
    @anthonybrown6143 Před rokem

    I wish Kicker would make this same box but built for their new SOLO L7X subs.

  • @brianmack6285
    @brianmack6285 Před rokem +1

    I expected a budget bust but instead it's the new Dual/Jensen/GenericName. Hope it makes it's way back under a new name. Go Amiraca!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      🤣👍

  • @scottiffanimccord1509

    Loved it D thx.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @Fr33dom89
    @Fr33dom89 Před rokem

    So should I get this will it blow on me in a week, Considering not over working it ?

  • @edwinkarani5593
    @edwinkarani5593 Před rokem

    Pretty good amp for starters.

  • @darrylduck6356
    @darrylduck6356 Před rokem

    What frequency di you test at?
    Being a sub amp I hope it was at least as low as 40Hz.

  • @HardCold-Alquan
    @HardCold-Alquan Před rokem

    It looks nice. I have a Sony 96K amp. Quality over power!

  • @mikei5526
    @mikei5526 Před rokem

    Thanks bought two

  • @DrHarryT
    @DrHarryT Před rokem

    For the money It's pretty good, the key would be to buy a few of them, run them @8ohm to get the efficiency up higher and run them well under their rated output to get the distortion down. No specs on the slew rate or signal to noise ratio.
    I have a Sound Craftsman PM860 Professional Mosfet amp. [120V] It's zero ohm stable which means you can short the speaker wires and power it on without harming it.
    The certificate of performance states Channel A 286W/Channel B 287W @8ohm, Channel A 401/Channel B 402W @4ohm all at .05%THD [Probably get close to 450W per channel @2ohm] With a Slew rate of 50V per microsecond. [It's really fast] I've paired it up with 4 EV Force 10 and 2 EV Force 12 musical instrument full range loudspeakers with 10lb magnets, 105Db SPL [1W@1Meter] 150W continuous. They accurately reproduce flat thought the audio waveform spectrum. [This means no matter what frequency you drive them at, they reproduce with the same intensity of sound pressure equally.] 10" 75Hz - 7000Hz/ 12" 65Hz - 7000Hz Oh yea, when you power it on, you hear a little pop, the speaker does a little flex in and out a couple of times and then... Silence and it stays silent using a Makie mixer at zero volume input. With this baby and the EV's, you close your eyes and swear the band is in front of you with accurate reproduction.

  • @Jake-tw8qr
    @Jake-tw8qr Před rokem

    They just rebranded to Notherss. The N4, 2-4 channel amp is still for sale on amazon.

  • @patrickbutcherine142
    @patrickbutcherine142 Před rokem

    I wanna get one for my guitar setup.

  • @danielmcgrew7545
    @danielmcgrew7545 Před rokem +1

    Love your videos boss. This one was really cool with you showing viewers what to look for, what reads what, how to calculate efficiency, why it matters- I watch your channel all the time so I've picked up on it but I got $10 your new viewers totally dug the info. Keep it up!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @CL-yp1bs
    @CL-yp1bs Před rokem

    actually has a diode for reverse polarity protection (hooking up pos and neg backwards) I am impressed for the price..

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      👌😬👍

  • @VencedorGamer
    @VencedorGamer Před rokem +2

    This is a Budget Gem, I wish Amazon hadn't gotten rid of it.

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem +1

      Maybe it will be back?

    • @VencedorGamer
      @VencedorGamer Před rokem

      @@wal I hope so, I would love to pick one or three up if they stay around that price. 🤣

  • @circuitsmith
    @circuitsmith Před rokem

    At that price I'd be tempted to gut it and use the pretty case for a project.

  • @BigEvil2005
    @BigEvil2005 Před rokem

    Have you tested any of the Cadence stuff as of late?

  • @HardKnoxAudio
    @HardKnoxAudio Před rokem

    Here we go! Sunday funday!

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Awe yeah!

  • @joeldawizzkiddandrews4147

    When are you going to do a old school diamond audio d6 or d6
    ..

  • @bonbont6912
    @bonbont6912 Před rokem

    if these were available and can strap together it be badass

  • @michaelblack5011
    @michaelblack5011 Před rokem

    impressive for that what have inside , nice

  • @jonathanscott799
    @jonathanscott799 Před rokem

    It’s back on Amazon!

  • @monera9675
    @monera9675 Před rokem

    Can't wait to see those D'amour engineering amps
    Apparently 400w rms at 6amps!

    • @briank.2650
      @briank.2650 Před rokem

      @ over 66 volts?

    • @wal
      @wal  Před rokem

      Yeah super interested in those

  • @hiscifi2986
    @hiscifi2986 Před rokem

    Apart from being able to produce voltages and currents, does it amplify music..?

  • @tedbrookins
    @tedbrookins Před rokem +1

    8:09 seems like a 35hz tuning frequency; the woofers stood still and clipped a bit. Thanks for the test!