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  • A star enveloped by black fire that causes madness and insanity wherever it appears. But what could it be exactly?
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  • @perturabo7825
    @perturabo7825 Před 7 lety +955

    Kitten-"Should we be worried about Malal trying to escape my emperor?" Emperor-"Hell no, he is a total push over, probably wrote that letter himself to make him sound more intimidating."

  • @SangTheCryptek
    @SangTheCryptek Před 5 lety +428

    "The Chaos God of Chaos."
    Lol, I heard you like Chaos, so I put Chaos in your Chaos, so you can heresy while you heresy.

    • @inkedseahear
      @inkedseahear Před 4 lety +40

      "Are you one of the Chaos gods?"
      "I am, but I got so good at it, I'm the Chaos god of Chaos."

    • @HydraDominus
      @HydraDominus Před 4 lety +22

      *ANGRY INQUISITORIAL SCREAMING*

    • @elijahkelley7616
      @elijahkelley7616 Před 3 lety +2

      Yo dog, we heard you like Chaos, so we're gonna put a Chaos in your Chaos.

  • @Kalnafein
    @Kalnafein Před 7 lety +739

    I wonder if Horus ever made that cup of cocoa for Malal.

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 Před 7 lety +94

      Kalnafein Well the 40k is made of grimdarkchocolate so yeah He made cocoa for Malal

    • @cheems4301
      @cheems4301 Před 7 lety +4

      Kalnafein I don't get it

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 Před 7 lety +20

      Luke Feeney well it a joke on Channel call Alfabusa

    • @Sereze001
      @Sereze001 Před 5 lety +10

      @@cheems4301 TTS Episode 18.5

    • @carlosthejakl8493
      @carlosthejakl8493 Před 4 lety +6

      Id like that. Id like that alot

  • @godemperorofmankind7255
    @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +597

    It's chaos. It's always chaos.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +57

      Or Cthulhu. Though he hasn't reared his ugly head since the 1900s (Call of Cthulhu)

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton Před 7 lety +18

      first you say It's always chaos.then you say Cuthulu. for crying out loud there comes nothing after "It's always(insert anything here)

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +33

      (Maniacal laughter is heard in the background with tentacle like sounds drowning out the growing insane laughter)
      THE GREAT OLD ONES ARE COMING MORTALS!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! (CTHULHU chants are heard in the background.)
      Well....at least chaos will be dealt with

    • @simongrundyreiner
      @simongrundyreiner Před 7 lety +21

      It's always gonna be warp fuckery

    • @60sSam
      @60sSam Před 7 lety +20

      Chaos this and chaos that. Give it a rest Dad.

  • @franciosdeaeruiu7555
    @franciosdeaeruiu7555 Před 7 lety +216

    My hyper-realistic kirby plushie cried six hundred and sixty six liters of blood for as many seconds

  • @gabrielaubry1334
    @gabrielaubry1334 Před 7 lety +155

    Malal: "When I get out of here, I will be the greatest Chaos God ever! I'll fuck 'em ALL UP! Just you wait... I will become RELEVANT AGAIN!"
    Horus: "Malal... Just stop."
    Squat: "You just can't keep doing this to yerself."
    Malal: "STOP DOUBTING ME! I WILL BECOME CANON! I WILL I WILL I WIHIHIHHIIIILL..."
    Horus: "Come. I'll make you some hot chocolate."
    Malal: "...I'd like that..."
    Horus: "There there, Malal...There, there..."

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +1

      Gabriel Aubry but Horus is cannon? :0

    • @HaloFTW55
      @HaloFTW55 Před 7 lety +11

      Pyroskies
      He means Horus' soul.

    • @clonetf141
      @clonetf141 Před 7 lety +6

      Gabriel Aubry
      sanguinius: FUCK YOU HORUS!!!!!

    • @gabrielaubry1334
      @gabrielaubry1334 Před 7 lety +10

      Pyroskies
      He is, but the Emperor blasted him literally out of existence, putting him with the other things that got rubbed out (for one reason or another).

    • @lordinquisitorsec7532
      @lordinquisitorsec7532 Před 7 lety +2

      How's life in the Retconium Malal?

  • @peterquint3816
    @peterquint3816 Před 7 lety +173

    An 1100 year ritual at the end of which 11 people died?
    I bet when Malal appeared they said "Can we just make your sacred number 2 from now on? Also 1, 1 is a good number, 11 not so good."

    • @Thalanox
      @Thalanox Před 7 lety +35

      Each of those 11 people are the winners of a ritualistic contest that the best, most ambitious members of the Sons of Malice chapter have been running every time they regroup for the get-togethers they have every century.
      You should read the story. It's pretty decent, and not too long.

    • @MrMrjimbo96
      @MrMrjimbo96 Před 4 lety +7

      "YOU FOOLS! IT'S A BINARY NUMBER NOT ELEVEN!"

    • @Sirhc2003
      @Sirhc2003 Před 3 lety +3

      @@MrMrjimbo96 so... 3?

  • @nicolaseisenberg7650
    @nicolaseisenberg7650 Před 7 lety +678

    The Tyrant Star is a peephole into the AOS universe. The madness comes from GW ending Warhammer Fantasy.

    • @lekhaclam87
      @lekhaclam87 Před 7 lety +71

      No wonder it brings madness whenever it goes.

    • @emetanti
      @emetanti Před 7 lety +48

      so it turns people insane by sheer butthurt?

    • @nicolaseisenberg7650
      @nicolaseisenberg7650 Před 7 lety +12

      Red Oblivion Age of Sigmar.

    • @Flamethrower1942
      @Flamethrower1942 Před 7 lety +6

      A steaming pile of Shit!

    • @kaisercollins3097
      @kaisercollins3097 Před 7 lety +5

      I find it so odd that there are people who have so little empathy for other players

  • @MidKnight2142
    @MidKnight2142 Před 5 lety +119

    Malice: I shall foil the plans of any and all Chaos "gods!:
    Tzeentch: Just as planed

  • @deep_fried_analysis
    @deep_fried_analysis Před 7 lety +233

    Black hole sun
    Won't you come
    And wash away the rain...

    • @darrianweathington1923
      @darrianweathington1923 Před 5 lety +11

      Drago is going to eat it.

    • @OMartinez91
      @OMartinez91 Před 4 lety +5

      @@darrianweathington1923 NO SUN!

    • @modakkagitplugga
      @modakkagitplugga Před 3 lety +1

      Saw that dude live in concert 2 days before he hung himself....and i'm still unsettled by that music video

  • @unlimitedpanda5433
    @unlimitedpanda5433 Před 7 lety +477

    its Matt wards soul.

  • @strongback6550
    @strongback6550 Před 6 lety +47

    this is why you don't shoot chaotic artifacts into the sun

  • @conradshtock3039
    @conradshtock3039 Před 7 lety +199

    Why do I get the feeling that Malice is gonna be directly tied to 40k's version of The End Times?

    • @dlordjoeaus
      @dlordjoeaus Před 5 lety +20

      Yeah The lawsuit GW would lose for using Malal again would probably cause 40k to no longer exist.

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 Před 5 lety +29

      @@dlordjoeaus They replaced Malal with Malice, it's the same guy just different name, Malice is canon bro.

    • @cobrastorm5722
      @cobrastorm5722 Před 4 lety +23

      Plot twist! Their lawyers are so afraid of being sued they will no longer even call him Malice! He shall henceforth be called Mario!

    • @sethleoric2598
      @sethleoric2598 Před 3 lety +5

      Imagine if Malal decided to wipe out all life in the Galaxy because he figures it would starve chaos to death lol.

    • @conradshtock3039
      @conradshtock3039 Před 3 lety +3

      @@sethleoric2598 still think that had Malal been allowed to stay, he'd have gotten turned into the Warp Revenue Service.

  • @FieldMarshalFry
    @FieldMarshalFry Před 7 lety +76

    well, Malice being involved with the Tryant Star would explain why daemons are scared of it, however I like the theory that it is connected to the Haarlock dynasty of Rogue Traders, the last one went mad over the death of his wife and went to the use the Star's power for..... something, causing all sorts of crazy time and space shit in the process

    • @silent_stalker3687
      @silent_stalker3687 Před 8 měsíci

      Guy goes to star
      Demon rips him off and caused an pretty solidly ducked event.
      Mala: “hey boy, do this thing to get back at that guy who ripped you off”

      Horrible things happen
      Other gods: “uh, wait you said you ripped that guy off what he fuck did you do?!”
      Demon: uh, I did not do that
      Gods: *make demon try to solve issue*
      Demon: *eternal screeching and maddening sounds as he has to deal with Mala*
      Also
      Same demon: *goes to other gods and warp creatures for help and gets ripped off making the situation worse*
      Same demon: *tries to find traces of that guys soul and being him back to find out what the fuck he did*
      Slaanesh gets involved because it seems like a fun daycare to send her kids to
      Her kids make things worse and leave once it stops being fun via even they are becoming scared of it and not even having a good death
      Demon and guys soul: “what the fuck…”
      Also then: “well we just need this sword that has a shard of a god in it for help”
      Warden of the sword: *grunt*
      Sword: *maddened screaming*
      Solution: 404 not found

  • @stargoyle9226
    @stargoyle9226 Před 7 lety +313

    Sounds like an irrelevant, minor warp being going through a midlife crisis.

    • @christiandauz3742
      @christiandauz3742 Před 6 lety +32

      The Grey Knights are sometimes called in full force to kill the BILLIONS of people the corrupted star has driven mad or mutated EVERYTIME it appears in Imperium territory
      The Tyrant Star causes Chaos Rebellions everywhere it goes!

    • @danielstephenaguilos9346
      @danielstephenaguilos9346 Před 3 lety +3

      @@christiandauz3742 Ok. Someone didn't get the reference.

    • @callumleslie1680
      @callumleslie1680 Před 3 lety +3

      Malal stop being such a pushover

  • @dropdead234
    @dropdead234 Před 7 lety +32

    Maybe the physical manifestation of the Sixth Chaos Lord, Matt Ward!?

  • @MyrdinAnnoth
    @MyrdinAnnoth Před 7 lety +14

    I love the idea of Malal making an appearance, staging a open war on the other 4 Chaos Gods who became to "stable" in their representation. A true God of eternal chaos, where it is chaos against all, even against itself. A true Beastly god... now we need more Beastmen in 40K as Malals children who hate both the non chaos and the chaos factions alike.

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 Před 3 lety +5

    Malal: I will become relevant again!
    Fucking Horus: Malal, you can’t keep doing this.

  • @SSecularScholar
    @SSecularScholar Před 7 lety +303

    How did you escape the warp after Magnus teleported you there?

    • @Warrior-Of-Virtue
      @Warrior-Of-Virtue Před 7 lety +84

      He followed Russ, Fyodor, and the others through the gate of Kain, I would assume.

    • @bobmarine7392
      @bobmarine7392 Před 7 lety +61

      Warrior of Virtue Or his Daemon Girlfriend help him get out from the warp

    • @trialb
      @trialb Před 7 lety +17

      The Emperor protects.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +40

      He did.....And it was glorious.

    • @TearDownGenesis
      @TearDownGenesis Před 7 lety +16

      He gave a call to Matt Ward

  • @toxicmongerofthehatefulbro5745

    I mean, I can see the Tyrant Star being related to the Tyranids. After all we know the TRUE Tyranid Hivefleet still hasn't reached the Galaxy yet, so the Tyrant Start could be where the Orignial Mind of the Hive Fleet the Biggest Boss brain, is peeping into the Galaxy and it has such an overwhelming Psyic effect it warps everything it's near.

  • @ryanlorenzo5003
    @ryanlorenzo5003 Před 7 lety +20

    When the Tyrant Star appears over my system:
    "Well this is shrakk, how am I gonna get a tan now?"

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +9

      Well you could get a tan from the burning cities filled with the screaming children.

    • @ryanlorenzo5003
      @ryanlorenzo5003 Před 7 lety +5

      Seems legit, get some of the local Arbitrators to start a mutant burning too.

  • @zenoblues7787
    @zenoblues7787 Před 7 lety +320

    It's Malal, It's Malal the Tryant Star is the sign of his coming

  • @666kingdrummer
    @666kingdrummer Před 7 lety +30

    I think it is an embodiment of Malice. I would love for GW to do something with Malice again but in 40k, and the Tryant Star sounds perfect for him and legit unnerving

  • @ShadowWulfGaming
    @ShadowWulfGaming Před 7 lety +48

    i think you are like the Ancient Aliens of 40k

    • @alexstapleton6339
      @alexstapleton6339 Před 6 lety +10

      Shadow Wulf Gaming “I’m not saying it’s Chaos, but I think it goes without saying it was fucking Chaos!”

  • @patricksmith9700
    @patricksmith9700 Před 7 lety +152

    personally I'm leaning towards the tyrant star being the outsider

    • @obnoxiouspriest
      @obnoxiouspriest Před 7 lety +6

      Lord catsworth it's a C'tan I believe.

    • @shadoershad4741
      @shadoershad4741 Před 7 lety +44

      Makes sense, the Outsider needs to feed on something and his presence does create madness. Also would make sense why the depictions of events change as he has a Dyson sphere. Some encounters may just be his sphere landing behind the star he intends to consume, while others are his sphere landing in front and eclipsing the star.

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton Před 7 lety +8

      so op you are saying dishonored are linked to 40k?

    • @shadoershad4741
      @shadoershad4741 Před 7 lety +9

      The Jim Reaper Let me clarify. The Dyson sphere landing between the star and the observer would block it out, and then the C'Tan going out to feed on the star would create the fire. When the sphere lands behind the star from the observers point of view and the C'tan goes out to feed, it would appear as the star is burning brighter than normal.
      And by land, I mean dropping out of warp, the webway, or whatever means of propulsion the C'tan spaceships use.

    • @dannygelbart6827
      @dannygelbart6827 Před 7 lety +4

      @RC5664 Comet, There's not a snowball's chance in hell that it is Malal either.

  • @Demonic_Emperor
    @Demonic_Emperor Před 7 lety +17

    I suspect it's most likely something C'Tan/Necron. But, hey... who knows. Maybe it's something entirely new to the entire universe.

  • @alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723

    I think G.W, watched Transformers G1 & decided to add Unicron just for kicks

  • @ShermTank7272
    @ShermTank7272 Před 5 lety +15

    While TTS did joke about Malal being in there, I do think about this being a “portal to nonexistence” has *some* merit to it. If someone were to be wiped off the face of existence in both the materium and the immaterium, where would they or their soul go? And, should nonexistence ever come into existence, it could make sense if a type of “k-class” reality restructuring event happened and those affected were driven mad as a result.

    • @cryw1092
      @cryw1092 Před 4 lety +2

      I mean, if something is rendered nonexistent, it doesn't go anywhere. It just ceases existing.

  • @Aravaganthus
    @Aravaganthus Před 7 lety +9

    It's a Darksign! Toll that ancient bell in Terra, we need to wake up the Adeptus Undeadus and Adeptus Unkindlus asap!

  • @Thalanox
    @Thalanox Před 7 lety +3

    Things like this are why I love the Warhammer 40k setting.
    You can introduce an idea like this in the setting. An idea that, in any other setting or story, would be the one, singular, biggest evil monster ever, and it's just one relatively minor mystery in one small corner of the galaxy that most will never hear about. There are several plausible explanations for what it might be, each of which is it's own element with their own storied histories and implications, but you're left wondering what it might be.
    Just this one small, relatively insignificant idea could serve perfectly as the core to a massive blockbuster trilogy of movies or series of books if it was nurtured right.

  • @Thebluesniper477925
    @Thebluesniper477925 Před 7 lety +4

    I've always wanted to know more of the Tyrant Stars after seeing that Q&A by Bruva Alfabusa, well done!

  • @r603burakkusuta2
    @r603burakkusuta2 Před 6 lety +8

    I keep forgetting that there are other chaos lads. I like the Malice idea. The big bad of bads.

  • @Spellbound7
    @Spellbound7 Před 7 lety +14

    I'm not entirely familiar with the details of Warhammer 40K lore, so I hope I'm not saying something stupid, but what if when pariahs die their 'un-souls' find one another into the Immaterium and merge together? It's like they've been coalescing together throughout the millennia like some sort of psychic black hole. That could make the Tyrant Star a pariah god.... anti-god? -The Tyrant Star is appearing, after all, in the Culexus Sector ;P-
    Wait, were the C'tan pariahs?

  • @wardogs667
    @wardogs667 Před 7 lety +3

    I know I couldn't have been the only one to ask for this topic, but I remember about, I wanna say, a year and a half ago when I found your channel to see if you could cover this. you were not kidding in the podcasts when you said you plan years ahead... Thanks for the vid and keep them coming!

  • @maniacaltwit
    @maniacaltwit Před 4 lety +2

    In my opinion this sounds way more like the C'tan "The Outsider". As he is known for his voracious appetite that lead to him devouring his own kind and going mad from their remnant shards still speaking from within him, in fact his insanity became so potent that he was exiled from the war in heaven out of fear his madness would infect the other C'tan. His current form is on the galactic edge and shown to be covered in rocks, waste and possibly himself forming a moon like structure. No ones stopping him from moving about and "nibbling" on stars to feed himself, and also cause the madness by simply being nearby. After all the C'tan as a whole did develop a taste for emotions such as horror, fear, etc. Only problems with this theory is the calixis sector and the Outsider (last sighting) are possibly in two different corners of the galaxy.

  • @OMartinez91
    @OMartinez91 Před 4 lety +3

    I love the idea of a Chaos god whose sole existence is to grief the other Chaos gods

  • @Hellheart
    @Hellheart Před 7 lety +75

    Lovecraftian Heresy!!?? Not in my Imperium!! For Cthul..... err.... the Emporer!!!

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton Před 7 lety +7

      I smell Heresy..

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +8

      HAY, I'M NOT CTHULHU!!!! Though I am friends with him and the Great Old Ones. Though if they are real...they could help me defeat chaos. (Maniacal laughter grows rapidly with a hint of squid)

    • @Hellheart
      @Hellheart Před 7 lety +5

      Yes, of course. I am but a humble (and, now, very confused) Astartes. I beg for your forgiveness, Your Imperial Squidiness... HOLINESS!!! I SAID HOLINESS!!

    • @offcenterprofilepicture6274
      @offcenterprofilepicture6274 Před 7 lety +2

      i want the god emperor to cum inside me till i pop.

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +1

      Ricky Ray *eats calamari* :3

  • @thijsjevanderlee3489
    @thijsjevanderlee3489 Před 7 lety +4

    My own theory was that the Tyrant Star is actually a representation of the God-Emperor in the same vein that the Gates of Moment might be an eye of Slaanesh. I have several reasons for this.
    - The tyrant star also appears in the Screaming Vortex, the Chaos cultists are dismissive that the Imperials consider it a chaotic thing. It is represented as being far more destructive there then in Imperial space.
    -There are hints that the Tyrant Star also appears in other sectors and even segmenta (Achilles crusade). In all cases there is a human aspect, there are no known appearances of the Tyrant Star to aliens. I admit that this is the weakest argument but until a bunch of Orks start a Waagh because a giant black sun tells them to it remains a valid point.
    - The coming of the Tyrant start causes religious fanaticism in the imperial worlds that it touches. In a mad, raging kind of a way the Imperial Faith burns brigher in the world the Tyrant Star visits, much like a pyre. In essence having the religious warp energy that has coalesced around an antitheistic über psyker that is both disgusted and devoted to 'modern' humanity connect to worlds brimming with religious fanatics opposed to everything the Emperor fought for but utterly devoted to what the God-Emperor has become. Yes this is destructive but in a similar, if more excessive vein as the actions of Cypher. Some would survive, maybe even thrive as they could resonate with the schizophrenic dissonance. Again this is counter to its effects concerning Chaos cultists where it leaves only ashes.

  • @ricywright8296
    @ricywright8296 Před 7 lety +5

    one of my favorite theories so far. thank god the upload and keep up the great work good sir.

  • @joshklein987
    @joshklein987 Před 5 lety +8

    Well, imperial experts seem to be at a loss for explanations of just about everything

  • @Ryan-gw3yv
    @Ryan-gw3yv Před 5 měsíci +1

    "no one knows why they get aggressive with the tyrant star" my man never been vitamin d deficient. XD
    Great video.

  • @daswordofgork9823
    @daswordofgork9823 Před 7 lety +6

    I'd say that it is a reality peep hole for Malal to poke his head out. It is only to make him seem like an actual threat.

  • @obnoxiouspriest
    @obnoxiouspriest Před 7 lety +16

    nice work yet again. Any more curse of knowledge episodes planned? I really liked that original series.

  • @ideletemyinbox
    @ideletemyinbox Před 7 lety +1

    Cracking episode Remleiz, very thorough. Speaking of stars, how about an episode about the Black Stone Fortresses of the Gothic War and their eventual fate?

  • @jaakkotoivola4619
    @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 7 lety +5

    Many possibilities exist, but I am saddened that so few put much thought into Komus. Educated quess is the best that can be made. I have researched the Tyrant Star for five years already. It has become a hobby, an exhilarating use of my free time. The mystery is deep, but what I can tell you is that we are most certainly, and with proof, dealing with forces even Chaos and Necrons could never hope to comprehend.

  • @1985Cyrus
    @1985Cyrus Před 7 lety +1

    Malal has returned!
    He has to pop in and out of the Warp to avoid his brothers noticing him and ending him.
    That or like the Ocean comparison maybe there is something worse than the Chaos Gods in the Warp and this is an extension of this being, in other words the Chaos Gods are sharks cruising near the surface, where this thing is a legend like Leviathan/Kraken of the deep waiting to rise up and drag down whatever it can feast on.
    Or maybe an insane Old One who has been corrupted after hiding for so long.
    So many possibilities, so much fun to speculate.

  • @jaggon8588
    @jaggon8588 Před 9 měsíci

    The writing of DH1-era FFG books was truly remarkable. Whole Haarlock's story, Tyrantine Cabal, Komus itself.. the aura of horror, mistery and eeriness was so fascinating, even thought the campaigns (Haarlock's Legacy especially) were quite a mess. And the best thing was that the writers never actually explained what the Tyrant Star is, leaving it to the GMs and players to theorize and debate over.

  • @albertcapley6894
    @albertcapley6894 Před rokem +1

    I think... The Tyrant Star might be the Craftworld know as Lu'nasad or Dresil'ach (forgotten ruin) which is detailed in the Rogue Trader adventure "Fallen Suns". This is the interpretation I am running with in my own Dark Heresy/Rogue Trader campaign, and of course linking Erasmus Haarlock with the lost Craftworld requires a bit of GM legwork but I hope it will be suitably epic.

  • @elijahkelley7616
    @elijahkelley7616 Před 6 lety +1

    "Or could something even darker and more sinister be at play?" Like what? What could possibly be worse than the C'tan, Tyranids, or Chaos?

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 6 lety

      Quite a few things, considering it could be literally anything. The lore was left incomplete to allow the GM of a game to make their own story around it, but Komus´ true nature has been hinted at... And if those clues are interpreted as a whole rather than a single clue at a time, the implications are quite nightmarish.

  • @Ralndrath
    @Ralndrath Před 7 lety +2

    That's one thing I love about the Tyrant Star is the GM can make it whatever they want. I only Gm'd up to the first scenario of the trilogy, but I would've made it something different something even more unknowable than Malal or the other chaos gods. Something i haven't even thought up yet lol

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +1

      The best shit in 40k tends to be the stuff we have little knowledge on as it leaves us wondering and afraid. The best type of fear is the unknown after all. :3

  • @valyrian1360
    @valyrian1360 Před 7 lety +2

    I should probably post this somewhere else but the question of Malal is too much to ignore so I'll try to keep this short. Whether it's name Malice, Malal, or whatever, (I will just refer to him as Malal for now) Malice's existence is inevitable to begin with. Chaos God's represent a force fueled by the material realm, thus (especially with the tyranids) anarchy and nihilism is a huge factor within the universe. In fact I would go as far as saying the chaos gods all together fuel Malal's existence with all the "trouble" they cause. A good example of this which most can probably understand would be what happened to kreig, it was (essentially) plummeted into anarchy and civil war because of corrupt leaders who didn't believe in the Emperor.
    EDIT (can't believe I forgot to add this): The tyrant star is also proof enough of the God's existence.

  • @superhooper9490
    @superhooper9490 Před 7 lety

    since seeing this is ttsd i have been looking forward to this vid and i was not disappointed. Great use of dark theme in the background and great creepy vibe in general.

  • @riftdragon8421
    @riftdragon8421 Před 6 lety +1

    Who else is terrified at the thought of this star. A black star that causes madness and mutation. Damn you Malal

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 6 lety

      Rift Dragon well, I most certainly am absolutely exhilarated of the lore behind the Tyrant Star. Whether it is Malal's doing or something even worse (protip: it is much worse), the Tyrant Star provides us with a great unknown, a view of alien vistas of terrifying implications. It provides us a view of powers beyond the comprehension of gods, and my greatest desire for the future of 40k is to see the truth that unfolds and the struggle against the darkness that will consume the stars from the heavens, leaving only Komus, the Last Star to shine its hellish light of madness upon mortals.
      "And there will be no difference between Man and the Beast, for All Shall Be Returned."

  • @liamatkin1628
    @liamatkin1628 Před 7 lety +2

    "Money is of... no importance. I... want... the... STONES..."

  • @StylesV13
    @StylesV13 Před 7 lety +125

    Cthulhu?

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt Před 7 lety +4

      he lives in what was the ARCTIC OCEAN!!

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +3

      Damn it Cthulhu. Get outa here.

    • @PervyAutomaton
      @PervyAutomaton Před 7 lety

      It depends on the god Shekelstien.

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 Před 7 lety +23

      You called?

    • @phoenixdblack
      @phoenixdblack Před 7 lety +13

      Cthulhu the Omnipotent
      C҉͇̥̟͉̤͉͡ţ̵̵̩̺͖h̷̛͉̝̻u̧͙͙̖̼̻̥͡l̫͙͜h̶͏̳̬̱̖̝ù͈̻͞ ̸̭̰͔̪̗̞̩̜͘F̛̦̩͈̜͙͞h͕̮͇̥̻̗̲t̯̮̠̙̼̮̗͞͞ͅḁ̯͖̻̙̣̟͜ǵ̶̱̲̦n̸̼̱̙̦̼̕!̧̲̣̜͈̖̭
      ̨̱̞͚C҉̫͉̜͍͕̬̰͕͡t̷̟h͏̜̯ͅu̟͍̕͜͡l̴̷̤̰̙̟h̡̟̤̭͝u̴͓̗͕̗̩͇͍ͅ ͚̻ͅF̀͏͚̟͚̬h̪͈̮̩̰͕͟t̴̴̻̯̦̘̹̥̳̺͞ą͈̪̺̺̼̲̫g̲͚̤̻n̶̢̖̠͉̫͓͙̣̮̦!͇̳͇͞
      ̞̟̝̬̩̱E̷̢̫͙̼̖a̢̡̤͖͈̖̮̱̤t̨͈͚ ̛͈͇̮͙͔̩̮͈m̢̗͡e̶̩̤̠̣̠͟ ̴̧̤̭f̴̵̗̣̫̯͢ì͉̫̗͔̜̱͜͢ͅͅr͇̩̣̯͙̘͈͢͜s̙̬̪̻̭͇͎̬͜t̶͍̹͓̤̻̲͢!̛̠̩͎

  • @Kamen_Hammer
    @Kamen_Hammer Před 7 lety +15

    God-Emperor Damn it Malal!
    How many times do we have to tell you!
    YOU.CANT.BE.CANON.

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 Před 6 lety

      Trazyn The Infinite not really

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 Před 5 lety

      @@the_dropbear4392 Yes, yes he is, they just renamed him to Malice.

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 Před 5 lety

      @@bobross9581 he's not. Unless you have statements that it's the same.
      All we know about malice is that the sins of malice follow it. And the talked to a deamon.
      It might just be a warp creature or a deamon of Tzeench messing with them

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 Před 5 lety +2

      @@the_dropbear4392 He literally just got renamed Malice, it's the same side, but to avoid copyright problems they changed his name and gave him a warband, don't be dense.

    • @bobross9581
      @bobross9581 Před 5 lety +2

      @@the_dropbear4392 He literally just got renamed Malice, it's the same dude, but to avoid copyright problems they changed his name and gave him a warband, don't be dense.

  • @Xarcht
    @Xarcht Před 6 lety +1

    The Tyrant star could be the prelude to the old ones coming to aid their creatures.

  • @rustkarl
    @rustkarl Před 6 lety +2

    In regards to the madness brought by the star, doesn’t the C’Tan known as ‘The Outsider’ have the effects of madness attributed to it?

  • @AzzaKTM
    @AzzaKTM Před 7 lety

    I really like the ambient music in this vid. Very foreboding and eerie.

  • @gregharris9397
    @gregharris9397 Před 7 lety +1

    Could we have a video of the Necron C'tan the Outsider. Since a lot of people are speculating the Tyrant star may be the Outsider.

  • @Cyrus-rodn45
    @Cyrus-rodn45 Před rokem +2

    The tyrant star could be the hive mind of the Tyranids.

    • @MasterIceyy
      @MasterIceyy Před rokem +1

      What if it's just a ridiculously large piece of Blackstone that the Necrons use to make their anti-warp pylons, that amount of negative psychic energy could explain why it causes madness and such whenever it appears

  • @BaronPraxis8492
    @BaronPraxis8492 Před 7 lety +2

    Thinking about the daemons being extensions of the gods and how they can be summoned got me wondering: Is it theoretically possible to summon one of the actual Chaos Gods to the material realm, for however short a time?

  • @mikelthomas7112
    @mikelthomas7112 Před 4 lety

    Malice possessed the ethereal form of a long dormant C'tan. Let's go.

  • @Invictus828
    @Invictus828 Před 6 lety +3

    Sounds very lovecraftian

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 6 lety

      It is rather Lovecraftian, especially its implications. While many jump to the conclusion "Cthulhu in 40k", it is not quite that simple. I would even argue that Cthulhu is already implied to be in 40k, or at least something similar to him already exists, and is but a part of the Tyrant Star´s prophesy rather than the end of it.
      The truth behind the Tyrant Star is practically impossible to pinpoint with what I know, and I have gone through the source material several times: It was intended to be vague so the GM of the game could tell their own story. There is only an implied "truth", which, if it was ever included in the 40k at large, would necessitate a vast story to establish its place at the current time, its current state and most importantly, its results.
      While I won´t say what the implied "truth" is, as I am unsure myself (my theories change with nearly every reading as I realize new connections or misconceptions I previously had), I can state with certainty that the result of this "truth", should it become reality for 40k, is the End of Days, the Eternal Night, the End Times.

  • @mattmorehouse9685
    @mattmorehouse9685 Před 6 lety +1

    The first theory has something of a problem: If the tyrant star is something of the tyranids why is it so far ahead of the hive fleets? Going so far ahead it would give the imperium time to recover and brings up the question of how the hive mind communicates with such a thing. Also, wouldn't there be specific signs of genestealer infestation?

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 6 lety +1

      Matt Morehouse Those are the exact points raised by Inquisitors to counter the Tyranid argument. All these theories have the same issue that the Inquisition faces: None of them can be proved to be true or false with certainty, as the key pieces of evidence one way or the other either do not exist or are nearly impossible to find.

  • @barrybend7189
    @barrybend7189 Před 6 lety +1

    Wow Five Star Stories nomadic black star is making quite a ruckus in Warhammer 40k.

  • @derharlekin5205
    @derharlekin5205 Před 7 lety

    I also read a theory, that the Tyrant Star is actually the warp-manifestation of secrets, mystery and the not understandable. It imitates patterns until an observer (an inquisitor for example) finds out more about it, than it changes these patterns, changes the mystery to remain non-understandable.

  • @EmpPeng2k7
    @EmpPeng2k7 Před 7 lety +1

    Malal fits reasonably well but Personally I would associate it as its own entity, wither material or warp bound.

  • @Veellinn
    @Veellinn Před 5 lety

    For being god of chaos and it's self defeating nature, ritual for his summoning sure must have taken lot of effort to do without any issues.

  • @aBoogivogi
    @aBoogivogi Před 5 lety +1

    Basically a chaos corrupted c'tan

  • @MyLPMaster001
    @MyLPMaster001 Před 2 lety

    Never forget that there is a mad lad, that can actually control or at least predict the cycles of the tyrant star (according to an official Warhammer dark heresy triology). The guy is a rogue trader of the Harlock dynasty. The dynasty was a key part of the initial collonialization of the Calixis sector, so they basically had time to study the phenomenon from the beginning of the sectors existence, probably predating even the Tyrantine Cabal.
    I also wanna comment on the theory of the tyrant star being the C'tan devouring the star of the system. It does sound nice, until you reallize that some of the reports on the tyrant star talk about it being a second sun besides the one of the system. With the additional lack of an explanation for the madness the star is linked to, I find this theory especially unlikely.

  • @manu_spawn
    @manu_spawn Před 7 lety +2

    your best video so far

  • @chubles42971
    @chubles42971 Před 7 lety +35

    My favorite characters in 40k are the Dark Gods. They remind me so much of me, especially Tzeentch.

    • @godemperorofmankind7255
      @godemperorofmankind7255 Před 7 lety +10

      BUT AREN'T YOU IN THE UNIVERSE?!!

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 Před 7 lety +8

      God Emperor of Mankind I am and am not at the same time.

    • @angrylizardman1472
      @angrylizardman1472 Před 7 lety +10

      hey look two gods arguing

    • @chubles42971
      @chubles42971 Před 7 lety +9

      angry Lizardman Don't call him that it irritates him.

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +9

      Cthulhu the Omnipotent Oh hey, have you found a new home yet since the seas disappeared on Terra millennias ago?

  • @AquaStockYT
    @AquaStockYT Před 2 lety

    I would not want to be haunted by the Dark Souls Logo

  • @dr.sweetlove7859
    @dr.sweetlove7859 Před 3 lety

    Anyone else looking out for the Tyrant Star this 2020? This year is just tearing human civilization apart.

  • @Mascifin
    @Mascifin Před 6 lety +1

    The Dark Traveler approaches.

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 6 lety

      "And now the veil rent and the key turned,
      Of bloody gyre flowing wide and lamented stars murdered cold,
      What rough beast, its hour come round at last, draws near to be born..."
      The Dark Traveller will sadly be never seen again in all likelihood, as far as official lore goes. It is as if it never existed, as Calixis Sector is remembered only for its armies outside its dedicated fanbase. If it ever returns as the diverse and deep setting, it will not be in the foreseeable future.

  • @shawnshultz8601
    @shawnshultz8601 Před 4 lety

    I like the idea of this being Malice and am now modifying my earlier theory about the ritual to include this.

  • @Trollioli
    @Trollioli Před 7 lety +16

    BRING BACK MALAL/MALICE!

  • @somedipshtinthecomments2507

    I think the Dark Heresy writers put it in there to give GMs a hook for thier campaigns. It's deliberatley vague so you can decide for yourself.

  • @knightlord5962
    @knightlord5962 Před 7 lety +54

    Chin chin created it

    • @TheChris1299100
      @TheChris1299100 Před 7 lety +33

      Welcome to the rice fields...heretics!

    • @pyrosauria7444
      @pyrosauria7444 Před 7 lety +10

      Alberto Fleitas Ore wa ochinchin ga daisuki nandayo!

    • @linearman0245
      @linearman0245 Před 7 lety +6

      Is Chin-Chin still sore about his size?

    • @ExternalDialogue
      @ExternalDialogue Před 7 lety +5

      NYEAS!

    • @jesusisherelookbusy
      @jesusisherelookbusy Před 6 lety +5

      *"THE DARK LORD IS HERE!!"* - Sons of Malice upon summoning C̶̷h̶̷i̶̷n̶̷ ̶̷C̶̷h̶̷i̶̷n̶̷ Malal from the C̶̷h̶̷r̶̷o̶̷m̶̷o̶̷s̶̷o̶̷m̶̷e̶̷ ̶̷R̶̷e̶̷a̶̷l̶̷m̶̷ Warp.

  • @hitomisalazar4073
    @hitomisalazar4073 Před 7 lety +2

    Remleiz, is there any citation or reference for that theory about the Tyrant Star being related to Ynnead? Just curious, not accusatory. Since Ynnead came second it'd have to be some detail I missed inside of that lore. Closest I can think of was a reference I had seen about the coming of Ynnead being prophecized in some massive star charts in a cave where some madmen studied them.
    But seems like a loose association of "A strange star named phenomenon" and "star charts predicting Ynnead".

    • @40KTheories
      @40KTheories  Před 7 lety +4

      +Hitomi Salazar the reference is just "might be eldar in origin" in fairness. But given how Ynnead is the only major development of note with the eldar in the past decade

  • @jmagowan12
    @jmagowan12 Před 2 lety +1

    Embrace the Darkness? Like believe in a thing called love?

  • @skspreeo10
    @skspreeo10 Před 7 lety

    It could be the Outsider fitting the C'tan theory and mutations due to radiation is possible considering what happened to the Necrontyr. The outsider was also driven mad by consuming the other C'tan and so may have an effect on others.

  • @wolfmirebacta8710
    @wolfmirebacta8710 Před 6 lety +1

    I would like to see Malice come back, Being the Chaos God that turns the imperium. on it's head as they try to figure out what the hell is happening and why chaos is fighting each other more than usual

    • @the_dropbear4392
      @the_dropbear4392 Před 6 lety

      Wolfmire Bacta
      Chaos fights itself all the time, it would be nothing unusual

  • @Erikjust
    @Erikjust Před 7 lety +3

    So since GW doesn´t hold the rights to Malal who does, since he´s no longer officially part of the pantheon of 40k.

    • @elijahkelley7616
      @elijahkelley7616 Před 6 lety +1

      I think I read somewhere that the employee who created Malal back in the 80s quit and took all the rights to Malal.
      If the employee dies, does that mean they could get rights back or something?

    • @AnonymousAnonposter
      @AnonymousAnonposter Před 5 lety +1

      This guy explains the situation czcams.com/video/ryeT8CbE9g0/video.html

    • @Duppyman695
      @Duppyman695 Před 3 lety +1

      I believe it was writers from 2000 AD ....... thats right we might see Judge Dread VS Malice/Malal

  • @billrich9722
    @billrich9722 Před rokem +1

    Would be pretty funny if it was just a normal eclipse.

  • @kingMeNow2012
    @kingMeNow2012 Před 5 lety +1

    Could this star be some sort of tyranid organism that feeds on energy, perhaps even an extension of the source of the hive mind with the madness being due to a stronger version of the white noise.

    • @jaakkotoivola4619
      @jaakkotoivola4619 Před 5 lety

      The main theory related to the Tyranids (as far as the Inquisition is concerned) claims the Tyrant Star is the manifestation of the Hive Mind's presence. This would imply the Hive Mind is focusing its attention where the Tyrant Star appears. This could explain the lack of Genestealer cults on most of the world's visited, but also implies the Hive Mind is placing an unbeforeseen focus on a single sector. It could be Calixis Sector is the target of the main Hive Fleet for unknown reasons.
      This theory, however, has even less evidence than the theory claiming the Tyrant Star is called by witches and/or heretics or the presence thereof, which is concidered a foolish proposition by most Inquisitors and a sheer impossibility.

  • @themariofiend1144
    @themariofiend1144 Před 7 lety

    It is probably the will of the Emperor himself. He has been bound to the Golden Throne, exposed to the raging hole in the Warp from his failed webway project for so long, he probably has become a greater demon or Chaos God himself, feeding off stars within his Imperium, possibly even absorbing Malus himself, as the Emperor and his Great Crusade likely created Malus. If true, how fitting that the force of nature that cause Malus to form should then devour him after becoming a Chaos God himself. Food for 40K thought ^w^.

  • @MrVoidbringer2002
    @MrVoidbringer2002 Před 7 lety

    wow lots to think about. thanks for your videos they help me when i work on my armies...

  • @VonKuro
    @VonKuro Před 7 lety

    If it's Malal there is a condition to verify: can chaos cults be find on the planet after the passage of the tyran star?
    If yes : it can't be Malal itself because he would not leave the planet as long as cults would be on the surface.
    If no : We don't gain any hint.

  • @stupididiot4034
    @stupididiot4034 Před 2 lety +2

    Who else secretly hopes the malal is the emperor?

  • @ravenstrategist1325
    @ravenstrategist1325 Před 7 lety

    It's the void dragon. He is comig back,the prison on mars has failed

  • @Arei1283
    @Arei1283 Před rokem +1

    It’s a reality peephole for Malal

  • @ministryofwrongthink6962

    it’s probably just an Ork playin with heavy Dakka

  • @dualityomk9854
    @dualityomk9854 Před 6 lety

    every time the emperor farts a tyrant star is born!

  • @vrapbrap
    @vrapbrap Před 7 lety +2

    That's some spooky shit my space man.

  • @MutatedPixelation
    @MutatedPixelation Před 6 lety

    I like it being Malice/Malal because he's such a fun god. But it also being some alternate dimensional being ala Cthulu could work out to I guess.

  • @Chris-6ul
    @Chris-6ul Před 3 lety

    The first demon would be classified and wants to become the chaos God

  • @firetarrasque4667
    @firetarrasque4667 Před 6 lety

    The consensus seems to be its Cthulhu coming to kill the Chaos Gods.

  • @zahndrekhsb1080
    @zahndrekhsb1080 Před 7 lety

    Comus a Greek god that is said to represent CHAOS and ANARCHY, sounds like an old god that is sat between dimensions