Got mine last week, so far so good (I'm using it with 1x10 mtb as long as I can buy a proper Road bike) - Heavier than my previous Tax Flow but smaller: Happy days - A lot silent than previous: Happy days - Mine came with adapters for different tru axles: Happy days - No issues with calibrating or upgrading firmware: Happy days Came with 1mm cassette spacer but instead used a 2mm to fit ten speed cassette and as you said, it handles well long cage rear derailleur. Cheers
Hey Shane, I like the addition of your “ride feel” chat straight after you jumped off the bike from the 1st ride. Please do this more when doing other reviews, it adds an interesting dimension to the review. Brilliant as always 👍🏻
Another excellent review Shane. Production is super slick these days too, 5 stars mate. Still really like the frank information/comments without unnecessary drama.
@@jimbojonesporfavor That's the companies key! The COVID-19 issues won't be over (partially) in at least one year, that in the best case when we're lucky enough to find a good treatment or vaccine.
@@davidmoreno790 What I've learned is there's no replacement for outdoor cycling for true 'road feel'. Indoors cycle equipment needs to get much better and much cheaper
@@jimbojonesporfavor I agree, but when there's no many alternatives, we have to adapt to this somehow. Good indoor cycling is literally a luxury that most people can't access in these times. I hope someone will find a better way to take all of this to a better level in all directions.
I just got this trainer and had the same calibration issue too last night. I just thought it was just me and was doing something wrong.. Total newbie to smart trainers. Love your channel and work.
@@gplama under the name taxc flux 56329 Is a serial number .this is on the devices screen. When I try to calibrate I get the exact same message as yourself .
Did you try spinning up to 30kph? On the original flux I found the calibration guidance a but mixed, but generally, get up to speed and you'll eventually get a prompt showing speed and telling you when you hit the magical mark...
thanks to you and dcrainmakers review i purchased a elite direto just over a month ago, i notice occasion quirkyness that i have adapted to. as a fitness tool i love it. mind you i had no roadbike and didnt want to use my mtb on it full time so my local bike shop let me know of a well taken care of old road bike. granted its a 1990 trek 1420 it does very well i was worried it wouldnt fit as it was a 7 speed but it works great the oddity in zwift i had to adjust to was in sim mode passing people up hill and getting passed going downhill. being a clydesdale both of those are opposite what happens on the road. your content is valuable for people and is greatly appreciated. living in northern maine US where winter has already set in(30+ inches of snow on the ground already) having the bike and positive social interactions on zwift are great and keep me moving forward. out on the roads most skinney cyclists look down on seeing my fat self passing them :P in game we all look skinny
The reviews come thick and fast. You are really ON IT with the content these days :) Love it. Great review once again. Tidy Lama lab DOES make a big difference by the way. :) Also, whenever you get on it and break into a 1000+ watt sprint, I'm always a bit worried, that you're going to break something. Haha. As for the Flux S and its limitations, I'm really thinking about getting into the direct drive trainer game but I have trouble deciding on what to get. Mid range aka Flux S or go for the higher end stuff (Core, Direto, Flux 2). Any chance you could do a head to head between those three at one point between those three? It would be interesting to get your take on it. Maybe it will help with the decision on what to get. :) Thanks. And as always keep up the awesome work. You've really stepped up your CZcams game over the past few months and it's really showing.
I can't believe these are still being manufactured. I got rid of mine 2 years ago after 2 failures. Just look at the Tacx flux owners FB page. Even the S model which is fundamentally the same design is having problems with noise etc. You'll get fitter watching t.v than if you buy one of these.
Looks good. I can still see why I would buy a Neo over a Flux. One reason being serviceability. The Neo can be fully taken apart and serviced and parts replaced. I've not seen that with the Flux.
don't get the Wahoo. Bought one in December 2018. It wouldn't work for more than 10 minutes at a time. Sent it back. The replacement worked for 3 rides, then quit entirely. Had a friend buy one at the same time. He had a completely different problem, he had issues with the flywheel. They are currently garbage...
Hi Shane! Been hooked on your channel for the last few weeks, so thanks for the great content. I was wondering if you could help me: do you think a brand new Flux S for 450eur is a worthy deal? Just for some background: I abandoned hardcore cycling a couple of years ago as I was quite devoted to it and it took up way too much of what little free time I had from work. So I took up other sports like CrossFit, gymnastics, running, etc. But I really miss the cardio fitness and the zen feeling when you hit the spot on a ride and just stay there, mindlessly suffering away! Recently the Crossfit gym where I workout got a Concept2 bike erg, I connected it to zwift and my addiction came flooding back. I can never go back to spending 5 hours+ on a bike ride away from home, but zwift really has become a wonderful way to kill my addiction and be home at the same time. Do I get the flux s, or do you think I should just take advantage of the bike erg at the gym, as I’ve done? A video on the concept2 bike erg and zwift would be awesome!! Thanks again and forgive the long message!
Newbie question but how do you know what kit you need to purchase with this? What cassettes ,tool, bolts etc you would need to buy if you started with nothing
Hello Shane and everyone! I was wondering do I need to buy a front wheel raiser? Or is it not needed ? Nothing comes in the box so I guessed it was not needed. Will I do damage on my bike? Or is it just a more pleasant experience having a front wheel raiser? Thank you!
All these trainer and equipment manufactures seem to fail on the QC of new releases. Just seems their just not fussy and thorough enough. Learnt my lesson with the KCKR 18 issues as an updated model and went with the time tested Neo 1.
Have had 2 rides on this now and really struggling with ERG mode, power seems off and its killing me to complete a trainerroad workout. I've also had to change gears to get it right, I tried resistance mode then and it seemed much better. Is it possible there's something wrong?
I have a TACX Vortex. I've not been able to calibrate the trainer lately. Decided to uninstall the App on my Samsung S7 and reinstall. Logged in and was able to calibrate. Hope this helps.
Noob question here :) if this can only simulate 10% gradient and you're racing on zwift with people using trainers that represent 20% gradient. Does this mean it will give you a huge advantage over them ?
Someone please help; I’ve installed this but for some reason the cassette (11 speed Shimano 105) is wobbly. Everything seems correct and tight but I can’t figure out where or how to tighten it up??
I figure the less resistance the trainer has to deliver, the less power it consumes, so I always pick the gear just below the one where I outride it. I know that's not really the point of erg mode, but I think it's the greenest option ;-)
Hey Shane, I realize this video is 1 year old. However, I need advice.. The options I have are 1. A used Tracx Neo 1 (2018 model used for ~2K KM), and option 2. a new flux S (2020) model... Which one would you go for? both are almost at the same price.
Hi there, I just got my Flux S, and it's class. However when was performing a ramp test on Erg Mode, the trainer got to about 360W and then did not continue to ramp up....I kept the cadence at 95Rpm or thereabouts. Is there anything I could be doing wrong? I know this is rated to 1500W. Cheers Jake
Can anyone tell me if low temperatures have a negativ effect on the Fluxc Trainer? I‘d like to leave it on my enclosed balcony (not heated) Thanks for the answers
These trainers have electronics that are designed for indoor use. Storing them outside isn't ideal. Condensation/extreme temperatures/etc doesn't play well with them.
I am sure you have already answered this before but I cannot find right keywords. Do we need to calibrate Flux before each training session? I mean after plugin power cable. Or it saves initial calibration settings. Thanks
New viewer, former music pro. Can I HIGHLY recommend looking into some simple plug-ins for processing the audio on your vids? Specifically some compression and de-essing would do wonders; your delivery is great, but sound-wise it's spikey and sibilant. It would not be difficult for you to address this.
Dear Shane, My girlfriend is currently on my old trainer a Tacx Bushido. While she enjoys it I am thinking about upgrading her to the Tacx Flux S. Currently she is using the Tacx smartphone app for training. She creates herself workouts and rides them while watching Netflix. So from my point of view Tacx is a good choice here because the app delivers what she needs for free. Seems like Wahoo can’t do it without third party integration and Elite seems to have a subscription model. My goal is still to have her ride with me on Zwift or similar. From your point of view would it make sense to upgrade from the Bushido to the Flux S? Have fun in Amsterdam. Unfortunately I recognized too late that you will be at Rays party with Von otherwise I would have signed in.
Shane, i'm trying to decide between Flux S and 2, did you know if thru axel compatibility is "native" in Flux 2? also, any chance tacx have fixed the known problem with ERG Mode ? great channel, always very imformative, i would love to hear you in a trainerRoad podcast :p
I don't believe any of the Flux units have native through axle support. Only the Neo 2T from Tacx has this, as I'm aware. The Flux series of trainers have been.... interesting. If I had to choose one trainer from what's on the market today, the Flux wouldn't be one of them.
Quick question: is this a viable trainer in 2022? I want to get a direct drive trainer that won’t break the bank. Any thoughts. Thanks and keep up the great work!
I'm using the Flux too...but the watts shows on my garmin is always more 15w-25w than my Stages Left Power & Vector2s....anyone facing this issue? i tried warm up 10mins, calibrate and also updated the firmwares....but its still showing additional Watts...
I wanted to get the FLUX S on black friday...alas no. My Taxc Flow Smart does the same calibrating sometimes...Usually when the trainer has already connected to the PC via Ant+ and the calibration uses BlueTooth. I have to unplug the ant+ dongle from PC then turn trainer off and on again, it will then connect to my Android with out problem.
Thanks Shane for a great review. Any issue with disk brake caliper clearance to the unit on the non drive side ? I am looking at direct drive trainers to use with my old Boardman CX Bike with mechanical disk brakes. Standard 135mm rear fork width.
i've been using a Tacx Satori until now because I mainly use it for short enduro intervals so I've been using the resistance lever to quickly switch it around. How do you do that with fully smart trainers? (they don't have any levers I think?)
Just a quick question how do you know what size cassette you need to purchase I’ve just got a carrera karkinos road bike second hand and looking at a smart trainer. Do you use the cassette of your bike or purchase one for this. Only new to the whole sport and turbo trainers and for this particular model do you have to purchase an ANT+ usb to use Zwift with your computer much appreciated
Best to match the cassette that’s on your bike. No need for ANT+ if your system has Bluetooth. Drop into a local bike shop and they should be able to sort you out with everything you need.
There's a few things to check: - Indexing (and limit screws while you're at it) - Chain / cassette wear. - Gear cable (if mechanical). - Gear cable housing. - B-Tension screw to set the guide pulley (top) in the optimal position.
Shane Miller - GPLama thank you for your answer. The cassette is brand new and the shifting is perfect with the wheel on. I’ll continue to try adjusting it based on your suggestions. Thank you very much.
Hi everyone, i have ordered a tacx vortex for 250, and now realising by the time i buy myself a trainer wheel/tyre/tube/cassette ant+ etc i wont be far off the price of a FLUX S. Anyway i only have an 8 gear rear cassette on my btwin bike for now, can i fit those on this? or does it not matter? a reply would be very appreciated from anyone as i have no idea
Nice review again but a little outdated now? 2 years old review and the Flux S is still one of the most popular machines. Time for a new review maybe to see if they have fixed some of the issues you had in this review(hope so)?
Its this unit or an elite zumo. Dont know what to pick as im new to turbo training. What is the better unit out of the two please? You gave the zumo a more favourable review but the issues with the tacx are possibly well resolved by now.
@@gplama Thank you. I just bought the tacx as a local bike shop that has helped me out a lot was selling it whereas the zumo was through a large chain of shops. The local bike shop also said they would throw a cassette i have on for free. Happy days, great vids and thank you.
It depends what the offer is at the time. Tacx are now owned by Garmin, so what they include now days may be different. Reach out to Garmin Support for the latest.
the sticky feeling is due to the resistance of the unit is too high even at the lowest setting. the unit would free spin for 5 seconds only no matter how hard you push it. it not good compared to other trainers.
Picked up one of these yesterday, 6 months old still under warranty for £400, cassette included. All good except when connecting to zwift via bluetooth 4k apple, connection shows the same as above at 5:10 but with speed connected no cadence. Is that because it's running through Apple (not sure how the above was connected.)
any updates on this trainer ?? planning to buy from a friend and he's worried id be to powerful for it and it'll break on me ? i do ride a relatively high level. thoughts ??
Great review! Question about the Hub: If I have two bikes, one SRAM cassette and the other Shimano cassette, will this hub accept either or do I need to swap it out for the specific cassette?
@@gplama Thanks Shane. Always enjoyed your straight-forward and in-depth reviews. How about this question - what trainer can you recommend that don't break the bank? :-| thanks again!
@@gplama Unless empirical, everything is subjective! So lets just assume it's subjective and then we all don't have to be so obtuse! I was thinking NZD/AUD$1,000 (USD$6-800) - do you need the cents too :-) It will be interesting how the indoor trainer market fares post-Covid19. I think what the lockdown has shown is that, whilst indoor trainers are great when you can't cycle, there really is no replacement for going out for a bike ride - certainly for mental health and enjoyment. It's usually the most accurate for 'road feel' too :-) Some of the trainers prices are obscene too - $2,000+ ! Could well be the new market stars, or they could become only for the elite professional. Interesting times! Thanks again for your great videos!
Personal preference. There's no accelerations indoors, no steering, nothing to take the static pressure off hands/wrists. A lot of people elevate their bikes an inch or so even when it's "level" indoors.
I have the fluxs (1st gen) and have trouble about bluetooth signal keeps droping out (on my acer gaming laptop)(i dont have the tacx ant+ antenna, just bluetooth). But, when doing zwift on mobile, no problems at all (until battery drains out lol). Anyone have the same issue or it's just me?
Hi and thank you very much for your very interesting videos. I am a newbie in this area even if i do road cycling since a decade now, i've never used an indoor training. Considering the lockdown i am now keen in buying one to use also in winter season, and this one is my favourite. Since I only have one bike, a carbon frame Trek, I am a bit worry that Home trainer might stress the frame of my bike. What's your opinion on this topic? I generally think that direct drive trainers are less stressful, but. i really don't know "how much", therefore i'd like your opinion! Thank you in advance!
Alin Daniel No, i just bought my Flux S a week ago and im using my phone to connect via Bluetooth with the Zwift Companion app and them stream the signal via Wlan to my Computer were i am running Zwift on.
Morning, firstly I love your videos bud :) wondering if I could ask some advice. I am newish to cycling but have got the bug big time. I am looking to purchase a trainer though haven't got much support in some shops and online can be a mine field off information I don't really understand :( I am looking to use Swift as with winter in the UK, I have only been averaging 50 miles per week. Ideally I would like the trainer to respond to hills etc app controlled resistance. Cant decide which one is best. My current bike is a boardman SLR though it only has 8 on the back cassette. Would this work with the Neo Smart S? the other trainers that seem popular are the Wahoo Kickr snap, kinetic road machine control. Wondering can you offer any advice? Much appreciated Shane.
Best drop into a local bike shop with your bike and have a chat to them about what you need. There’s a lot of options, and it’s best left up to the people who are experts in customer service (before and after sales) to make sure you’re 100% happy.
I wonder if flux s smart and flux 2 smart are able to reproduce the feeling of road condition in zwift like neo smart. Do they convey the feeling of pebbles, slight steps and level difference on road?
hi Shane. I have the opportunity to buy the Saris H2 for $750 used. but i was also considering the Flux S for $815 new, with tax. which would you recommend?
@@gplama thanks for the quick reply. I just purchased the feedback omnium with the resistance for $325 USD, based on your video. Not all too concerned about ride feel, coming from a bare bones peloton machine in the excercise room. Merry Christmas!
@@gplama Check it out. He does a very funny take on amateur diy machining, making and engineering. I know, it sounds like a laugh riot, but trust me. And you'll see what I'm talking about. Great minds think alike.
I don't know why anyone would buy one of these. Having recently purchased one, I was surprised to discover that the Flux line only connects with the Tacx Training App and cannot be used on Zwift. I emailed their customer support to see if I could somehow purchase an unlock to be able to hook up to Zwift, but they don't answer emails. It is no better than my old fluid trainer that I rode while pairing my bike's power meter to Zwift. There "controllable" features are only available on Wahoo trainers, not from Tacx.
@@gplama I've tried for five days to get a response from Tacx Customer Care , but out of the box my unit was visible to Zwift for five seconds and then never again, despite working with the Tacx app and reading accurate power. I've listed it to sell on second-hand at a loss because Tacx ignores their customers.
Zwift Support would have been a better bet. It’s likely you were using Bluetooth and the Tacx App had held the connection open. Either way, this trainer works fully with Zwift.
Shane any ideas why, after I've done a workout on Zwift in ERG mode, the next time I do a group workout the trainer does not adjust resistance on hills?
Kinda sounds like you're saying "Fluxus". Oooh, if they called it that they could follow Final Fantasy spell naming conventions! Flux, Fluxus, Fluxaga!
Kind of off-topic, but have you ever ridden 53-42 chain-rings? Or 55-42? I'm kind of tempted to buy Ultegra or Dura-Ace cranks with close ratios like that and using a 14-34 cassette at the back. Btw, Shimano now make a 14-28 11s cassette in the R8000 range. I'm tempted to try it, since I don't care about downhill speed, and it would give lovely usable and efficient gears with great chain-lines in the big ring.
Got mine last week, so far so good (I'm using it with 1x10 mtb as long as I can buy a proper Road bike)
- Heavier than my previous Tax Flow but smaller: Happy days
- A lot silent than previous: Happy days
- Mine came with adapters for different tru axles: Happy days
- No issues with calibrating or upgrading firmware: Happy days
Came with 1mm cassette spacer but instead used a 2mm to fit ten speed cassette and as you said, it handles well long cage rear derailleur.
Cheers
Hey Shane, I like the addition of your “ride feel” chat straight after you jumped off the bike from the 1st ride. Please do this more when doing other reviews, it adds an interesting dimension to the review. Brilliant as always 👍🏻
Another excellent review Shane. Production is super slick these days too, 5 stars mate. Still really like the frank information/comments without unnecessary drama.
...the price is quite expensive. i'm not sure if my wife is gonna be as quiet as this tacx smart trainer if I buy it...
😂😂😂 I think my wife will be thz same... 😕
Nice to see some direct drive competition in that 750 or so range. Now it just needs to drop another 250 or so! 😀
Totally agree
Far too expensive! Think these companies will need to re-think post covid19 as people will be sick of indoor training
@@jimbojonesporfavor That's the companies key! The COVID-19 issues won't be over (partially) in at least one year, that in the best case when we're lucky enough to find a good treatment or vaccine.
@@davidmoreno790 What I've learned is there's no replacement for outdoor cycling for true 'road feel'. Indoors cycle equipment needs to get much better and much cheaper
@@jimbojonesporfavor I agree, but when there's no many alternatives, we have to adapt to this somehow. Good indoor cycling is literally a luxury that most people can't access in these times. I hope someone will find a better way to take all of this to a better level in all directions.
I just got this trainer and had the same calibration issue too last night. I just thought it was just me and was doing something wrong.. Total newbie to smart trainers. Love your channel and work.
Out of interest, does the trainer serial number show up in the Tacx Util app on the control panel or just the firmware version?
@@gplama under the name taxc flux 56329 Is a serial number .this is on the devices screen. When I try to calibrate I get the exact same message as yourself .
Did you try spinning up to 30kph? On the original flux I found the calibration guidance a but mixed, but generally, get up to speed and you'll eventually get a prompt showing speed and telling you when you hit the magical mark...
5:22 in I gave you a Ride on!!!!!!!! This made my Friday!!!
High five! What would I do without Shane‼️
thanks to you and dcrainmakers review i purchased a elite direto just over a month ago, i notice occasion quirkyness that i have adapted to. as a fitness tool i love it.
mind you i had no roadbike and didnt want to use my mtb on it full time so my local bike shop let me know of a well taken care of old road bike. granted its a 1990 trek 1420 it does very well i was worried it wouldnt fit as it was a 7 speed but it works great
the oddity in zwift i had to adjust to was in sim mode passing people up hill and getting passed going downhill. being a clydesdale both of those are opposite what happens on the road. your content is valuable for people and is greatly appreciated. living in northern maine US where winter has already set in(30+ inches of snow on the ground already) having the bike and positive social interactions on zwift are great and keep me moving forward.
out on the roads most skinney cyclists look down on seeing my fat self passing them :P in game we all look skinny
The reviews come thick and fast. You are really ON IT with the content these days :) Love it. Great review once again. Tidy Lama lab DOES make a big difference by the way. :) Also, whenever you get on it and break into a 1000+ watt sprint, I'm always a bit worried, that you're going to break something. Haha. As for the Flux S and its limitations, I'm really thinking about getting into the direct drive trainer game but I have trouble deciding on what to get. Mid range aka Flux S or go for the higher end stuff (Core, Direto, Flux 2). Any chance you could do a head to head between those three at one point between those three? It would be interesting to get your take on it. Maybe it will help with the decision on what to get. :) Thanks. And as always keep up the awesome work. You've really stepped up your CZcams game over the past few months and it's really showing.
thanks shane. i have been waiting long for this video from you!
Thanks Shane. Another great review! As a software guy, I laughed out loud at the text placeholder. Lol
I can't believe these are still being manufactured. I got rid of mine 2 years ago after 2 failures. Just look at the Tacx flux owners FB page. Even the S model which is fundamentally the same design is having problems with noise etc. You'll get fitter watching t.v than if you buy one of these.
Looks good. I can still see why I would buy a Neo over a Flux. One reason being serviceability. The Neo can be fully taken apart and serviced and parts replaced. I've not seen that with the Flux.
Nice info Shane, thanks :)
I experience those same 'jumping numbers' in ERG mode on the Neo 2. Made me worried in the beginning, but indeed averaged out these are spot on.
Next is a review of the dyson?
Hi Shane!
Tacx Flux S, Elite Direto or Wahoo Kickr Core?
Which is the best choise?
don't get the Wahoo. Bought one in December 2018. It wouldn't work for more than 10 minutes at a time. Sent it back. The replacement worked for 3 rides, then quit entirely. Had a friend buy one at the same time. He had a completely different problem, he had issues with the flywheel. They are currently garbage...
Hi Shane! Been hooked on your channel for the last few weeks, so thanks for the great content. I was wondering if you could help me: do you think a brand new Flux S for 450eur is a worthy deal? Just for some background: I abandoned hardcore cycling a couple of years ago as I was quite devoted to it and it took up way too much of what little free time I had from work. So I took up other sports like CrossFit, gymnastics, running, etc. But I really miss the cardio fitness and the zen feeling when you hit the spot on a ride and just stay there, mindlessly suffering away! Recently the Crossfit gym where I workout got a Concept2 bike erg, I connected it to zwift and my addiction came flooding back. I can never go back to spending 5 hours+ on a bike ride away from home, but zwift really has become a wonderful way to kill my addiction and be home at the same time. Do I get the flux s, or do you think I should just take advantage of the bike erg at the gym, as I’ve done? A video on the concept2 bike erg and zwift would be awesome!! Thanks again and forgive the long message!
Newbie question but how do you know what kit you need to purchase with this? What cassettes ,tool, bolts etc you would need to buy if you started with nothing
Hello Shane and everyone! I was wondering do I need to buy a front wheel raiser? Or is it not needed ? Nothing comes in the box so I guessed it was not needed. Will I do damage on my bike? Or is it just a more pleasant experience having a front wheel raiser? Thank you!
All these trainer and equipment manufactures seem to fail on the QC of new releases. Just seems their just not fussy and thorough enough. Learnt my lesson with the KCKR 18 issues as an updated model and went with the time tested Neo 1.
Have had 2 rides on this now and really struggling with ERG mode, power seems off and its killing me to complete a trainerroad workout. I've also had to change gears to get it right, I tried resistance mode then and it seemed much better. Is it possible there's something wrong?
Can you do a follow up on these, have they sorted their issues?
Hey Shane. Any update on accuracy after calibration???? Have you used a flux 2 yet? If so what do you think?
Shane has bared the F*** from the lama cave until something changes :)
I have a TACX Vortex. I've not been able to calibrate the trainer lately. Decided to uninstall the App on my Samsung S7 and reinstall. Logged in and was able to calibrate. Hope this helps.
Noob question here :) if this can only simulate 10% gradient and you're racing on zwift with people using trainers that represent 20% gradient. Does this mean it will give you a huge advantage over them ?
No. In game speed/gradients never change. You still need to produce the same w/kg in real life to move in-game.
Someone please help; I’ve installed this but for some reason the cassette (11 speed Shimano 105) is wobbly. Everything seems correct and tight but I can’t figure out where or how to tighten it up??
I figure the less resistance the trainer has to deliver, the less power it consumes, so I always pick the gear just below the one where I outride it. I know that's not really the point of erg mode, but I think it's the greenest option ;-)
Cripes Shane I thought it was back.to the future for a moment there..flux...flux..
I was hoping for a vacuum.review :-)
This just popped into stock on a website, but considering the extra cost of a thru axle adapter and a cassette i'll hold out for a kickr core.
For this price range, the best options are the Kickr Core and Saris H3. It has to be one of them.
Good pronunciation !! Flux this flux that Flux MS max!!
Hey Shane, I realize this video is 1 year old. However, I need advice.. The options I have are 1. A used Tracx Neo 1 (2018 model used for ~2K KM), and option 2. a new flux S (2020) model... Which one would you go for? both are almost at the same price.
Neo
which trainer do you use and recommend
if i may ask one question: will you do a long term test?
If I get the time and have put enough kms on the unit, sure.
Hi there, I just got my Flux S, and it's class. However when was performing a ramp test on Erg Mode, the trainer got to about 360W and then did not continue to ramp up....I kept the cadence at 95Rpm or thereabouts. Is there anything I could be doing wrong? I know this is rated to 1500W.
Cheers
Jake
Local bike shop has discounted end of line flux for £450 & a flux s for £549 - worth the £100 extra?
If you need long cage support, yep.
I’m waiting for mine to be delivered any day soon 😁 Hurry the f up GLS
Would you buy a Flux s or a waho kickr core? I had a Flux 1 but he broke after. 200kms of use..
Witch one should I choose between the Elite Zumo and the Flux S
Can anyone tell me if low temperatures have a negativ effect on the Fluxc Trainer? I‘d like to leave it on my enclosed balcony (not heated)
Thanks for the answers
These trainers have electronics that are designed for indoor use. Storing them outside isn't ideal. Condensation/extreme temperatures/etc doesn't play well with them.
I am sure you have already answered this before but I cannot find right keywords. Do we need to calibrate Flux before each training session? I mean after plugin power cable. Or it saves initial calibration settings.
Thanks
It will save them. I’d calibrate the Flux every few weeks, depending on use.
New viewer, former music pro.
Can I HIGHLY recommend looking into some simple plug-ins for processing the audio on your vids? Specifically some compression and de-essing would do wonders; your delivery is great, but sound-wise it's spikey and sibilant. It would not be difficult for you to address this.
Hello any issue with the flux unit?
Looks nice and smooth.
Dear Shane,
My girlfriend is currently on my old trainer a Tacx Bushido. While she enjoys it I am thinking about upgrading her to the Tacx Flux S.
Currently she is using the Tacx smartphone app for training. She creates herself workouts and rides them while watching Netflix. So from my point of view Tacx is a good choice here because the app delivers what she needs for free. Seems like Wahoo can’t do it without third party integration and Elite seems to have a subscription model.
My goal is still to have her ride with me on Zwift or similar.
From your point of view would it make sense to upgrade from the Bushido to the Flux S?
Have fun in Amsterdam. Unfortunately I recognized too late that you will be at Rays party with Von otherwise I would have signed in.
I know you have been busy cleaning the DCR cave but let me pull this up 🤔
Shane, i'm trying to decide between Flux S and 2, did you know if thru axel compatibility is "native" in Flux 2? also, any chance tacx have fixed the known problem with ERG Mode ? great channel, always very imformative, i would love to hear you in a trainerRoad podcast :p
I don't believe any of the Flux units have native through axle support. Only the Neo 2T from Tacx has this, as I'm aware. The Flux series of trainers have been.... interesting. If I had to choose one trainer from what's on the market today, the Flux wouldn't be one of them.
Quick question: is this a viable trainer in 2022? I want to get a direct drive trainer that won’t break the bank. Any thoughts. Thanks and keep up the great work!
I'd lean more towards the CORE. The Flux and I have bad history.... ;)
If a Tacx can report cadence from the unit, I wonder why Wahoos cannot. Not an issue for me, as I use Assioma pedals, but curious.
I'm using the Flux too...but the watts shows on my garmin is always more 15w-25w than my Stages Left Power & Vector2s....anyone facing this issue?
i tried warm up 10mins, calibrate and also updated the firmwares....but its still showing additional Watts...
Find yourself a known good power source and compare to that. The Vector2 can be statically calibrated (Or checked) if you want to go that route)
it's the Same on my Flux with stages pm
I wanted to get the FLUX S on black friday...alas no.
My Taxc Flow Smart does the same calibrating sometimes...Usually when the trainer has already connected to the PC via Ant+ and the calibration uses BlueTooth. I have to unplug the ant+ dongle from PC then turn trainer off and on again, it will then connect to my Android with out problem.
Thanks Shane for a great review. Any issue with disk brake caliper clearance to the unit on the non drive side ? I am looking at direct drive trainers to use with my old Boardman CX Bike with mechanical disk brakes. Standard 135mm rear fork width.
One for Tacx Support. I don’t have a disc bike to test with.
i've been using a Tacx Satori until now because I mainly use it for short enduro intervals so I've been using the resistance lever to quickly switch it around. How do you do that with fully smart trainers? (they don't have any levers I think?)
Smart trainers need something to 'control' them. Be that an app like Zwift, TrainerRoad, FulGaz, Rouvy, RGT, etc.
Will this pair with my Fenix 5? Will I need to but any other sensors to get all my data to my F5?
Just a quick question how do you know what size cassette you need to purchase I’ve just got a carrera karkinos road bike second hand and looking at a smart trainer. Do you use the cassette of your bike or purchase one for this. Only new to the whole sport and turbo trainers and for this particular model do you have to purchase an ANT+ usb to use Zwift with your computer much appreciated
Best to match the cassette that’s on your bike. No need for ANT+ if your system has Bluetooth. Drop into a local bike shop and they should be able to sort you out with everything you need.
@@gplama thank you and popping into a bike shop would be easier said than done when we’re in lockdown here in the UK and everything is shut haha
i got this and i need to install for my bf surprise birthday gift what gear/tool i need? hope can give me some advise thx
Best hit up Garmin/Tacx Support or where you purchased it from.
Why put the power cable so it hangs in the air ready to be tripped over!?
Hi, great review. Any tips to making the shifting better on the flux s? I’m having big issues with gear shifting. Thank you very much.
There's a few things to check:
- Indexing (and limit screws while you're at it)
- Chain / cassette wear.
- Gear cable (if mechanical).
- Gear cable housing.
- B-Tension screw to set the guide pulley (top) in the optimal position.
Shane Miller - GPLama thank you for your answer. The cassette is brand new and the shifting is perfect with the wheel on. I’ll continue to try adjusting it based on your suggestions. Thank you very much.
Hi everyone, i have ordered a tacx vortex for 250, and now realising by the time i buy myself a trainer wheel/tyre/tube/cassette ant+ etc i wont be far off the price of a FLUX S. Anyway i only have an 8 gear rear cassette on my btwin bike for now, can i fit those on this? or does it not matter? a reply would be very appreciated from anyone as i have no idea
Nice review again but a little outdated now? 2 years old review and the Flux S is still one of the most popular machines. Time for a new review maybe to see if they have fixed some of the issues you had in this review(hope so)?
Its this unit or an elite zumo. Dont know what to pick as im new to turbo training.
What is the better unit out of the two please? You gave the zumo a more favourable review but the issues with the tacx are possibly well resolved by now.
The Zumo performed well. As to which one to buy.... entirely your call.
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Thank you. I just bought the tacx as a local bike shop that has helped me out a lot was selling it whereas the zumo was through a large chain of shops. The local bike shop also said they would throw a cassette i have on for free. Happy days, great vids and thank you.
So you don't get the software included? Only a month's trial..AND ...you'll need Zwift membership? Is that correct? Thanks.
It depends what the offer is at the time. Tacx are now owned by Garmin, so what they include now days may be different. Reach out to Garmin Support for the latest.
the sticky feeling is due to the resistance of the unit is too high even at the lowest setting. the unit would free spin for 5 seconds only no matter how hard you push it. it not good compared to other trainers.
Picked up one of these yesterday, 6 months old still under warranty for £400, cassette included. All good except when connecting to zwift via bluetooth 4k apple, connection shows the same as above at 5:10 but with speed connected no cadence. Is that because it's running through Apple (not sure how the above was connected.)
The FLUX will be a single BLE connection for power, cadence, and control. If that's not happening, this is one for Zwift Support.
any updates on this trainer ?? planning to buy from a friend and he's worried id be to powerful for it and it'll break on me ? i do ride a relatively high level. thoughts ??
Does it come with the tools to install the cassette on the trainer?
No
@@gplama Damn. A visit to the store is in order then. Thank you.
If you calibrate your trainer inside the Tacx app and then again inside of Zwift will it change anything or is it not necessary to do both?
Not necessary. It does the same thing. Just use Zwift calibration.
Great review! Question about the Hub: If I have two bikes, one SRAM cassette and the other Shimano cassette, will this hub accept either or do I need to swap it out for the specific cassette?
SRAM components are compatible with Shimano except for the last version, the AXS.
Hi, does this trainer comes with a 11 speed cassette or we have to buy it separately? Thanks in advance?
@@pierremongin62 Does not come with a cassette. You will have to buy one separately.
Great review - thanks v much! I have through-axle so an adapter is annoying.
Would you say the wahoo is good value and sector leader?
Value is subjective. They’re always mentioned in the ‘top trainer manufacturers’
@@gplama Thanks Shane. Always enjoyed your straight-forward and in-depth reviews. How about this question - what trainer can you recommend that don't break the bank? :-| thanks again!
@@jimbojonesporfavor Subjective again.... that depends how much money you have. Let's go with Kickr CORE as an answer.
@@gplama Unless empirical, everything is subjective! So lets just assume it's subjective and then we all don't have to be so obtuse! I was thinking NZD/AUD$1,000 (USD$6-800) - do you need the cents too :-) It will be interesting how the indoor trainer market fares post-Covid19. I think what the lockdown has shown is that, whilst indoor trainers are great when you can't cycle, there really is no replacement for going out for a bike ride - certainly for mental health and enjoyment. It's usually the most accurate for 'road feel' too :-) Some of the trainers prices are obscene too - $2,000+ ! Could well be the new market stars, or they could become only for the elite professional. Interesting times! Thanks again for your great videos!
Why do you use a front wheel raiser? I thought that was not needed for the flux?
Personal preference. There's no accelerations indoors, no steering, nothing to take the static pressure off hands/wrists. A lot of people elevate their bikes an inch or so even when it's "level" indoors.
Thanks for the video. What additional equipment do i need except from the cassette?
A bike :)
@@gplama :D
Is it worth it to buy Flux S?
I have the fluxs (1st gen) and have trouble about bluetooth signal keeps droping out (on my acer gaming laptop)(i dont have the tacx ant+ antenna, just bluetooth). But, when doing zwift on mobile, no problems at all (until battery drains out lol). Anyone have the same issue or it's just me?
Contact Tacx Support on that one.
Hi shane! It's me again hahaha, is the FLUX S a good option for 2-3 time ride a week, today in 2022? Thanks!
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Hi and thank you very much for your very interesting videos.
I am a newbie in this area even if i do road cycling since a decade now, i've never used an indoor training.
Considering the lockdown i am now keen in buying one to use also in winter season, and this one is my favourite.
Since I only have one bike, a carbon frame Trek, I am a bit worry that Home trainer might stress the frame of my bike. What's your opinion on this topic? I generally think that direct drive trainers are less stressful, but. i really don't know "how much", therefore i'd like your opinion!
Thank you in advance!
There is no issues using carbon bikes on indoor trainers. czcams.com/video/ISsrgn3YyGQ/video.html
@@gplama Thank you very much for your answer! Enjoy your rides!
If you only had one trainer to use which one would you pick
Lemond Revolution
How about trying to calibrate it from Zwift, On the startup menu there is the option to do that...
I’ve never trusted that in-game calibration. Not enough to have Lama Labs results rely on it.
Hi, for this kind of trainer or kinetic r1 to use with zwift, i need to buy separately an ant+ dongle for pc? Thank you
Alin Daniel No, i just bought my Flux S a week ago and im using my phone to connect via Bluetooth with the Zwift Companion app and them stream the signal via Wlan to my Computer were i am running Zwift on.
@@christopherrei1156 Thank you, than i will do that. Cheers
Morning, firstly I love your videos bud :) wondering if I could ask some advice. I am newish to cycling but have got the bug big time. I am looking to purchase a trainer though haven't got much support in some shops and online can be a mine field off information I don't really understand :( I am looking to use Swift as with winter in the UK, I have only been averaging 50 miles per week. Ideally I would like the trainer to respond to hills etc app controlled resistance. Cant decide which one is best. My current bike is a boardman SLR though it only has 8 on the back cassette. Would this work with the Neo Smart S? the other trainers that seem popular are the Wahoo Kickr snap, kinetic road machine control. Wondering can you offer any advice? Much appreciated Shane.
Best drop into a local bike shop with your bike and have a chat to them about what you need. There’s a lot of options, and it’s best left up to the people who are experts in customer service (before and after sales) to make sure you’re 100% happy.
I wonder if flux s smart and flux 2 smart are able to reproduce the feeling of road condition in zwift like neo smart. Do they convey the feeling of pebbles, slight steps and level difference on road?
No they're not. They're belt drive and the resistance unit isn't as responsive as that in the Neo units.
Thank you so much for your swift reply !
I have the Cycleops Power beam pro (wheel on) which is ANT+ only. Is it worth spending another 360 GBP for the Flux S? Any views would be appreciated.
Give one a test ride first and see if you think it’s worth it.
Is the Flux S worth the extra money over the original Flux??
I’d go with yes... given it’s a newer unit.
@@gplama Thanks! Love your videos!
How do you connect it to a big screen?
Connect what to the big screen?
@@gplama yes, big screen...how do you connect it?
@@felipea.7901 Likely what you're looking for is Zwift or similar software.
Is the Flux 2 worth the extra $150 (usd) over the Flux S ???
I haven’t ridden the Flux 2, so I don’t know sorry.
hi Shane. I have the opportunity to buy the Saris H2 for $750 used. but i was also considering the Flux S for $815 new, with tax.
which would you recommend?
I’m not much a fan of how the Flux units feel to ride.
@@gplama thanks for the quick reply. I just purchased the feedback omnium with the resistance for $325 USD, based on your video. Not all too concerned about ride feel, coming from a bare bones peloton machine in the excercise room.
Merry Christmas!
@@gplama How about Elite Suito vs Flux S? Thanks.
Hi do I need to use the tacx ant+ specific usb dongle, or can I use any other ant+ usb dongle? 🙏😬
Any ANT+ will work mate.
Shane, have you been watching the 'This Old Tony' CZcams channel? It looks like he's inspired your b-roll.
I’m not aware of that channel, nope.
@@gplama Check it out. He does a very funny take on amateur diy machining, making and engineering. I know, it sounds like a laugh riot, but trust me. And you'll see what I'm talking about. Great minds think alike.
I don't know why anyone would buy one of these. Having recently purchased one, I was surprised to discover that the Flux line only connects with the Tacx Training App and cannot be used on Zwift. I emailed their customer support to see if I could somehow purchase an unlock to be able to hook up to Zwift, but they don't answer emails. It is no better than my old fluid trainer that I rode while pairing my bike's power meter to Zwift. There "controllable" features are only available on Wahoo trainers, not from Tacx.
This unit works with Zwift. That information is incorrect.
@@gplama I've tried for five days to get a response from Tacx Customer Care , but out of the box my unit was visible to Zwift for five seconds and then never again, despite working with the Tacx app and reading accurate power. I've listed it to sell on second-hand at a loss because Tacx ignores their customers.
Zwift Support would have been a better bet. It’s likely you were using Bluetooth and the Tacx App had held the connection open. Either way, this trainer works fully with Zwift.
Does the trainer work with no power? Can you use it without an app/computer?
No
Thank you...
Will this work with road bike and mtb 29er bike too?
See the Tacx website for specs
Time for new video: Deep look on coffey maker 2 and allso do i like dyson?😁🤪
Is there anyone who can run Tacx app via Android ???
Shane any ideas why, after I've done a workout on Zwift in ERG mode, the next time I do a group workout the trainer does not adjust resistance on hills?
One for Zwift Support. That shouldn't happen.
Kinda sounds like you're saying "Fluxus". Oooh, if they called it that they could follow Final Fantasy spell naming conventions! Flux, Fluxus, Fluxaga!
Kind of off-topic, but have you ever ridden 53-42 chain-rings? Or 55-42? I'm kind of tempted to buy Ultegra or Dura-Ace cranks with close ratios like that and using a 14-34 cassette at the back. Btw, Shimano now make a 14-28 11s cassette in the R8000 range. I'm tempted to try it, since I don't care about downhill speed, and it would give lovely usable and efficient gears with great chain-lines in the big ring.
53/39, 52/36, 50/34. On road bikes. Anything from an 11-21 to 12-32 up back iirc.
@@gplama Gotta love a Dura-Ace 7900 11-21 cassette!