so many variables in attempting to test saw performance like this. The best position to take is that ANY power saw is far better than you on the end of a manual saw! The Echos, 680 in particular, tend to be detuned, the production goal of Echo is longevity, reliability. They can be altered to be hot rods if that is your intent but for me the reliability and longevity counts far greater.
Greetings from Long Island. Nice job on this shoot out, and a nice stable of saws. The 620's are great high quality saws with quite a bit of grunt stock, and easily ported/tuned up. I gave my son in law a 4910 with a GearHead Performance billet deflector which woke that saw up nicely after a limiter trim and re-tune. No denying Husqvarna has there formula dialed in with their XP monsters. I just ran the first tank through my brand new 555, which Fedex dropped off today ($600 delivered!). Almost bought a 545 new, but for the price of the 555, I had to pull the trigger on it. Compared to my ported '94 54cc 029, it's close, but the Husqvarna anti-vibe and Auto-Tune is priceless, not to mention the overall cutting experience with the Husky is certainly a bit nicer than my Stihl, although I really dig that 4910 for an ultra light weight ripper. Always cool to see the run-off's. Let's face it, all the major brands are making nice stuff these days, and those Echo's are fairly inexpensive, and really rip with minimal shop work.
That’s a nice price on the 555. You are right about the easy modification on the echo saws. I’m planning on getting one of my 680 ported. Thanks for watching.
Last year, I was looking for a 60cc saw that could run a 24" bar for personal firewood. I was very interested in a Husqvarna 555, having a Husqvarna 450e (Rancher). The local dealer was at least $750 for the Triple Nickel. There is an Echo dealer less than 2 miles from my house. He sold me a CS620P for $625ish including,tax, an extra chain, 2 files, and a "Six Pack" of 2 stroke mix. With 4.5hp, the CS620P sporting 24" is the best saw, best value for my 5-6 cords a year!
That's a great group of saws you got there. I'm jealous. Your 7310 runs alot better than mine ever did before I got it ported. That muffler must have really woke it up.
Thanks for watching. My 7310 was dull at first, I ran it hard for a year and she did seem too brake in. Since I put a dull port on the muffler and adjusted the carb it’s become my favorite saw. I’ve ran it against a stock 500i and it keeps up.
Great video. I ran my Echo 620 against my Makita 6100 this past weekend. Both ran great with 24" full comp chains. IMO, the Echo felt it had more torque when buried in 20" cedar.
The 620 is hard to beat for the price! I forgot to mention in the video, but all the saws are running 24 inch bars and full comp chains. Thanks for watching.
The 680 is a slow cutting saw for this type of ccm. I would recommend a 8 pin rim. Specially in soft wood its boost the cutting speed up if you dont run a very long bar. If you going to use 18-22" 8 pin rim is better. A few years ago I switched from Husqvarna to Echo and some Stihl saws because Echo didnt have a bigger saw in Europe than the 680 at this time. Later I switched my Stihl 461 to the Echo 7310. The Echo 7310 have better AV System, better Airfilter, better handling, less weight... The 461 otherwise have more ground torque. Overall I hoping Echo is continue their way with the new style, airfilters, design and cylinder ports the 7310 and 4310 have. Would be nice if they bring a replacement for the 501SXH based on the 4310 as a pro saw. Also something in the 90ccm range would be nice but I think they need to sell far to much saws so its not profitable for them to make bigger saws then the 7310. Thats why the still make the 1201 for country s that dont have emission regulations. The 1201 was designed in the 70ths as 1200 and got a light make over in the 2000. Mainly used and sold in countries like Brazil where they need a damn reliable saw and dont care about they weight so much. Also the 620 need an upgrade too. If you pull hard when the bar got stuck, the airintake can get a crack. Other than the crack in the intake, I never had an issue with the Echo's. Even after 2-3 years in service the didnt show much wear at all. The Autotune and M Tronic saws need to replace after 2-3 years as a full-time logger because they start getting worn out and the electronic trys to compensate it. At the beginning you wont notice because the electronic can compensate for it. When the saw starts to make wired things, its already to late. You will have some serious wear in the cylinder and piston, wear in the AV springs and mostly with Husqvarna saws, worn out bolt-threads. I never have a loose bolt on Echo or Stihl saws. Dont know why Husqvarna cant get it right. Thank you for making this Video. Its nice to see the difference. Top notch would be if you have had used the same bar and chain on every saw, but yeah that would be a lot of work.
They really do. When most people try them for the first time they are usually impressed. Very easy to modify as well. Open up the exhaust and they really come alive. Thanks for watching.
@@whatsthebuzz1 It wouldn’t seems watching from here but I trust you. However, my stock 572 will smoke any stock 7310 for sure so my doubts are still there…….
I just bought used 7310 I'm new condition as my big saw. I'm really anxious to have it ported. Also, couldn't you have jacked up those logs a bit to keep your bar and chain out of the dirt? 😮
Thanks for the video comparison, I like the simple approach. I’m about to pull the trigger on a new CS 620p (albeit I can get the 680 for nearly the same price) but I’ve got a preference for the magnesium chain cover and weight/power of the 620. Whats your opinion on a 24” vs 27” bar? I.e balance, notable differences etc? The longer bar may allow for more “stand up and buck” but I’m uncertain if the 27” will be too tip heavy/unbalanced. Thoughts
I run mine with a 24”. I’ve had a 28” on it once and felt like I was forcing the saw to do something it wasn’t made for. But if you were to run a skip tooth chain, I’d bet a 27” would pull about the same power as a 24” with full comp. Also depends on if you’re cutting soft wood or hardwoods. Thanks for watching.
@@whatsthebuzz1 thanks! All soft woods up here in Alberta from spruce, pine and aspen except for some birch. With the diameters being cut a 24” sounds perfect. Keep up the great videos!
so many variables in attempting to test saw performance like this. The best position to take is that ANY power saw is far better than you on the end of a manual saw! The Echos, 680 in particular, tend to be detuned, the production goal of Echo is longevity, reliability. They can be altered to be hot rods if that is your intent but for me the reliability and longevity counts far greater.
Greetings from Long Island. Nice job on this shoot out, and a nice stable of saws. The 620's are great high quality saws with quite a bit of grunt stock, and easily ported/tuned up. I gave my son in law a 4910 with a GearHead Performance billet deflector which woke that saw up nicely after a limiter trim and re-tune. No denying Husqvarna has there formula dialed in with their XP monsters. I just ran the first tank through my brand new 555, which Fedex dropped off today ($600 delivered!). Almost bought a 545 new, but for the price of the 555, I had to pull the trigger on it. Compared to my ported '94 54cc 029, it's close, but the Husqvarna anti-vibe and Auto-Tune is priceless, not to mention the overall cutting experience with the Husky is certainly a bit nicer than my Stihl, although I really dig that 4910 for an ultra light weight ripper. Always cool to see the run-off's. Let's face it, all the major brands are making nice stuff these days, and those Echo's are fairly inexpensive, and really rip with minimal shop work.
That’s a nice price on the 555. You are right about the easy modification on the echo saws. I’m planning on getting one of my 680 ported. Thanks for watching.
Last year, I was looking for a 60cc saw that could run a 24" bar for personal firewood. I was very interested in a Husqvarna 555, having a Husqvarna 450e (Rancher). The local dealer was at least $750 for the Triple Nickel.
There is an Echo dealer less than 2 miles from my house. He sold me a CS620P for $625ish including,tax, an extra chain, 2 files, and a "Six Pack" of 2 stroke mix. With 4.5hp, the CS620P sporting 24" is the best saw, best value for my 5-6 cords a year!
@@whatsthebuzz1echo 7310 oil mixs 2t ? 1/4 ?
That's a great group of saws you got there. I'm jealous. Your 7310 runs alot better than mine ever did before I got it ported. That muffler must have really woke it up.
Thanks for watching. My 7310 was dull at first, I ran it hard for a year and she did seem too brake in. Since I put a dull port on the muffler and adjusted the carb it’s become my favorite saw. I’ve ran it against a stock 500i and it keeps up.
Great video. I ran my Echo 620 against my Makita 6100 this past weekend. Both ran great with 24" full comp chains. IMO, the Echo felt it had more torque when buried in 20" cedar.
The 620 is hard to beat for the price! I forgot to mention in the video, but all the saws are running 24 inch bars and full comp chains. Thanks for watching.
What length is the bar on the 7310p? And what brand is the dual port muffler?
The 680 is a slow cutting saw for this type of ccm. I would recommend a 8 pin rim. Specially in soft wood its boost the cutting speed up if you dont run a very long bar. If you going to use 18-22" 8 pin rim is better. A few years ago I switched from Husqvarna to Echo and some Stihl saws because Echo didnt have a bigger saw in Europe than the 680 at this time. Later I switched my Stihl 461 to the Echo 7310. The Echo 7310 have better AV System, better Airfilter, better handling, less weight... The 461 otherwise have more ground torque. Overall I hoping Echo is continue their way with the new style, airfilters, design and cylinder ports the 7310 and 4310 have. Would be nice if they bring a replacement for the 501SXH based on the 4310 as a pro saw.
Also something in the 90ccm range would be nice but I think they need to sell far to much saws so its not profitable for them to make bigger saws then the 7310. Thats why the still make the 1201 for country s that dont have emission regulations. The 1201 was designed in the 70ths as 1200 and got a light make over in the 2000. Mainly used and sold in countries like Brazil where they need a damn reliable saw and dont care about they weight so much. Also the 620 need an upgrade too. If you pull hard when the bar got stuck, the airintake can get a crack. Other than the crack in the intake, I never had an issue with the Echo's. Even after 2-3 years in service the didnt show much wear at all.
The Autotune and M Tronic saws need to replace after 2-3 years as a full-time logger because they start getting worn out and the electronic trys to compensate it. At the beginning you wont notice because the electronic can compensate for it. When the saw starts to make wired things, its already to late. You will have some serious wear in the cylinder and piston, wear in the AV springs and mostly with Husqvarna saws, worn out bolt-threads. I never have a loose bolt on Echo or Stihl saws. Dont know why Husqvarna cant get it right.
Thank you for making this Video. Its nice to see the difference. Top notch would be if you have had used the same bar and chain on every saw, but yeah that would be a lot of work.
Those echos hold their own to be honest.
They really do. When most people try them for the first time they are usually impressed. Very easy to modify as well. Open up the exhaust and they really come alive. Thanks for watching.
@@whatsthebuzz1 you're welcome. Thanks for the honest comparison between brands. Not many people do that.
How is possible that a 562 cut faster than a 572??? Was the 562 ported? I’ve got a 572 and it cut a lot faster than that. Could be a dull chain?
The 572 and 7310 were cutting on a bigger log. It performed really good.
@@whatsthebuzz1 It wouldn’t seems watching from here but I trust you. However, my stock 572 will smoke any stock 7310 for sure so my doubts are still there…….
I just bought used 7310 I'm new condition as my big saw. I'm really anxious to have it ported. Also, couldn't you have jacked up those logs a bit to keep your bar and chain out of the dirt? 😮
Thanks for the video comparison, I like the simple approach. I’m about to pull the trigger on a new CS 620p (albeit I can get the 680 for nearly the same price) but I’ve got a preference for the magnesium chain cover and weight/power of the 620. Whats your opinion on a 24” vs 27” bar? I.e balance, notable differences etc? The longer bar may allow for more “stand up and buck” but I’m uncertain if the 27” will be too tip heavy/unbalanced. Thoughts
I run mine with a 24”. I’ve had a 28” on it once and felt like I was forcing the saw to do something it wasn’t made for. But if you were to run a skip tooth chain, I’d bet a 27” would pull about the same power as a 24” with full comp. Also depends on if you’re cutting soft wood or hardwoods. Thanks for watching.
@@whatsthebuzz1 thanks! All soft woods up here in Alberta from spruce, pine and aspen except for some birch. With the diameters being cut a 24” sounds perfect. Keep up the great videos!
Your welcome. Good luck with your saw.
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no stihls allowed on this channel, just the way i like it 😎
😂! That’s not necessarily by design. I like my 400, but other than that I find better value in the other brands. Thanks for watching.
ECHO can run with the best but they cant breathe somewhat stiffer regulations.
Yeah, they run a lot better with the muffler opened up. Thanks for watching.
Echo are really restricted from the factory. As soon as you open them up some they really wake up. I have a 501p, 620pw and a 372xp. All great saws.
You are absolutely right. I’ve done some videos showing the difference between stock and modified echo saws. Thanks for watching.