#3 Electric Guitar: Amp Volume & Positioning
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- čas přidán 28. 02. 2016
- In this instructional video for Church musicians, Grant Norsworthy speaks with electric guitarist Evan Redwine about setting appropriate volume levels and the best position for the amplifier.
THE BAND of volunteers from City Church East, Nashville, TN. USA
(www.citychurcheast.org):
- Evan Redwine - electric guitar (www.evanredwine.com)
- Jonathan Truman - drums/percussion
- Zach Vinson - keyboard
- Aaron Sands - bass guitar
- Emily Roig (www.emilyroig.com) - vocals
THE CREW:
- Chris Raines - videographer (www.bullhornmedia.tv)
- David Lim - live audio engineer
POST PRODUCTION
- Grant Norsworthy - Producer/Director (www.grantnorsworthy.com)
- Chris Raines - Video Editing (www.bullhornmedia.tv)
- Evan Redwine - Audio Mixing (www.evanredwine.com)
Shot @The Anchor Fellowship
629, 3rd Avenue South “SoBro” Nashville TN 37210
(www.theanchorfellowship.com)
Thursday, 1/14/16
When he cranked the amp it was magic
I agree! Great tone from Evan Redwine - especially when he gets to crank the amp just how he wants to. But I am very pleased that he's mature and musical enough to be willing to compromise his electric guitar tone for the greater good.
@@Morethanmusicmentor can't agree more. Thank yoh for your content and very loving approach in responding to comments.
@@ezer0923 You're very welcome. Thanks for your kind words.
@@Morethanmusicmentor You're just a control freak, bro. If you get a guitarist that is too ignorant to know not to point his amp in people's face, don't try to tilt his amp, angle his amp away from faces.
Great video!
Thanks Grant. Very good. I learned a lot from you when you came to First United Methodist Church in Godfrey Illinois a few years back and again when you listened to some of my original songs and gave me much needed advice on what I could do to improve them. Again,thanks for always being open and available. I look forward to more video's from you.
+Gary Will You're welcome Gary. Thanks for the comment and encouragement. I just had lunch with Jason McAtee and we're planning another workshop in your area! Stay tuned.
Sounds great.
Nice video. What about an attenuator in lieu of the isolation cabinet? Any thoughts on that?
Great vid :) Gain vs Volume is a critical factor also...
OMG this intro is amazing 🤣🤣🤣
I like the side tilting idea but how would you position several guitar amps on stage? In our band we have, at times, 4 guitarists; bass, rhythm, and 2 alternate leads. Would be good to know how these would be positioned around the drums.
He really cranked that Betty Up!
BEGINNING: RIP EARPHONE USERS
Thanks for your comment Joseph. I'm not a big fan on earphones in most live music situations. You?
More Than Music Mentor it disconnects you, mics taking ambience from the crowd might help
Yes, having some "room" mics to pick up the ambient sounds can help, but that sound will still have to travel through a couple of gain knobs or faders and will only be an indication of whether to not the congregation is singing. You still lose the FEEL from the room to a large extent.
Could you give an idea on the hardware being used to accomplish the amp speaker in another room?
obviously the speaker in that combo is disconnected.
Did you use line level converters or a redbox?
Hey Jussy. Sorry I missed this comment. For the majority of our instructional video shoot that day, that same little Fender amp that you see in this video was actually positioned only about 12 feet away in a fully enclosed wooden box lined with high density, sound absorbing foam. The mic was positioned in front of the speaker on a stand inside the box ... not the less effective technique depicted here with the mic simply dangling from it's cable over the top of the amp.
Informative, but I have a question. No one ever seems to talk about playing and practicing at home. In a home practice situation, should you stand in front of the amp--- with the amp facing you directly? Should you stand off to the side of it--- with the amp still facing towards you? Should it be set up like a live situation--- with your back to the amp? Just curious......
If you're practicing at home through your amp, you probably should keep the volume as low as possible. So, yeah, have the amp facing you either directly (same/similar height as your head) or from the floor. Either way, you should have the amp in a position where the sound meets your ears (or one ear on one side or other of your head) first. I prefer the amp being on the floor and angled upwards (to point towards head height) from one side of you or directly in front of you.
I'd like to think that, especially in a church situation, this is the position you'd use when playing live (for an audience/congregation) too! The whole point of this video is to highlight the UN-suitability of having your back to the amp, especially if it is shooting sound past your ankles.
I hope that helps!
Thanks for the reply.
More Than Music Mentor my practice setup is exactly how I perform. That way I am used to the sound coming from behind me. I elevate my amp as well so I know exactly what the band and audience is hearing. I get much better tone control this way
@@hammill444 Don't take his terrible advice. Practice at moderate levels, and have the amp set up behind you. At a gig, you want to make sure the amp isn't pointed directly at people's faces, and especially not your face. Control freak sound boys think they know better than guitarists and want you at practically zero so they can control the front of house, guitar amps were meant to fill a room. Going through the mains will never sound as good as the amp being the main front of house sound. If it is impossible to not point it at someone's face, use a baffle, point the amp backwards, or put it off to the side as shown in the video. Don't point it at your face.
Practical-Humble answer: compromise your own personal tone for the greater good.
Attenuator
if you play at home is it better to have the amp on the floor or at some height so when you sit on a chair the speaker will be at the level of your head
Absolutely! The ears of the person playing the guitar should be the first to hear what's coming out of the speaker(s). With a handle like "metalhead95", I'm imagining you playing like that really loud, with a hugely distorted sounds, maybe even drop turing. The skin of your face is deliciously being peeled back to reveal a smiling skull! Haha! (I'm a bit of a metal head myself)
More Than Music Mentor hahaha thats true while i have a chorus and a delay i mostly play with my fuzz and od pedals. Just to hear that gnarly growling fuzz coming out of the speaker and then make it softer with a very very light od( almost clean sound, i use it mostly to boost the midrange). Plus rolling back the pick up volume so i can get more clarity. And now that i put the amp on a chair( am gonna build an amp stand probably, ) i get the full tone of the amp. Before the tone was so compressed( when the amp was on the floor).
2:53 I was looking up videos and there’s a couple ways one could get the tone they want with out bursting peoples ears, if the tube amp has an FX Loop, you can turn the volume up till you get the tone you want, and lower it with a volume pedal or an equalizer pedal, I haven’t had a chance to try it out for my self yet
Here’s the vid I saw
czcams.com/video/te-Z6oC8HiM/video.html
I really enjoy this series by the way, extremely helpful and educational
Really? Will that work? I thought that would change the tone. If you're right, that's a great idea.
I know it's a year old but you're overdriving the preamp, what we want is a struggling power amp 😍
No
I moved to a solid state Roland. These amps sound as good as any tube amp and don't have to be cranked to get a good tone. Plus you don't have to deal with the finicky tube nonsense.
or if you want to push your amp but you are too loud turn the volume on you guitar down.
Sure, that'll reduce the overall volume, but it won't give the same tone as having the guitar on full AND the amp driving hard. The input level (the volume setting on the guitar) has a massive effect on the sound/tone that comes out of the amp.
So, it’s not one louder then?
Hi Mike. I'm not sure I fully understand your question, but I'll try to answer. The guitarist is able to run the amp at louder levels than might otherwise be suitable IF they modify the position and angle of the amp or even utilise an isolation booth for the amp. It's the direction of the speaker - where the amp's sound is travelling - that needs to be considered.
More Than Music Mentor Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top number and make that a little louder?
this host guy looks like matt bellamy xD
Know your space. Understand your size. Assess your environment properly before even choosing an Amp for the job. You may absolutely love your 100 watt head with its 4x15 combo but it's not appropriate. In small stage and worship band corners in the little church you play at, a 5w or 10w combo or head with a 1x12 cab set about 10 feet to the rear left/right tilted toward your head would be perfect. Mic it and enjoy. When everyone is happy, everyone is happy, when the guitarist is happy and the rest of the band and the congregation is distracted, worship doesn't happen, no matter how great you think you sound.
Tubular - I don't think that word means what you think I means ;~)
I like the "Princess Bride" reference, but I think tubular does mean what I think it means.
Don't listen to these hacks, they're amateurs, they don't know anything. Guitar amps shouldn't be pointed at anyone's face in the audience, so why would you think it's okay to face the amp directly at a guitar player who is the closest to the amp? The answer is control freak sound boys, that is who thinks it is okay. The only situation in which you should tilt your amp is in a tiny club, or if it is *impossible* not to have the amp in someone's face, if this is the case, don't tilt, have a baffle in front of your amp. Put your amp behind you a couple feet, face it slightly sideways to avoid hitting people in the face.
Thanks for your comment. Agree to disagree?
I am a pro BTW.
Grant